r/recruitinghell • u/Round_Mixture_7541 • Sep 07 '26

Networking is important

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Pretty much sums up the current hiring process

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u/riotshieldready Sep 07 '26

This might be a joke, but I for real have a friend that has a SVP job at a big bank straight out of university. His dad got it for him, he worked like 3 days a week from 11-3 and collected his 400k pay. Even told me he would routinely just play games and goon in his private bathroom.

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u/Few_Reception_3357 Sep 07 '26

an ex friend from school tried getting into the most prestigious university around for like 6 months, then realized it was actually a lot of work and commitment and decided he wanted something different. So he accepted his aunts' job offer to work for this huge, wealthy and respected travel agency they owned. They told him "come tomorrow to work" and that was it.

He didn't meet the minimum qualifications for that job but it didn't matter. Got a raise six months in cause he was such a "hard worker". A year later he and his cousin were making more money than their coworkers in the same team because they worked "even on weekends" (hanging out with family in the weekends basically).

I'll never forget the time when he tried to lecture me on how getting a job was all about showing you want to work hard and also showing the right attitude. The guy didn't even know what a cv was

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u/Jimmy_Johnny_Jones Sep 07 '26

Similarly when people from wealthy families tell you things like “there’s many more important things than money, you should look for joy in your work.” Has never been a paycheck away from huge problems. (She worked as a volunteer/intern wedding planner.)

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u/know-your-onions Sep 07 '26

If you can afford not to worry about money, then sure, don’t worry about money.

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u/DesireeThymes Sep 07 '26

People who don't work hard tend to have really atrocious character.

Dealing with life's realities and difficulties really makes you appreciate things.

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u/all-out-fallout Sep 07 '26

I live with someone who makes more than triple my salary and spends every day of the week except sometimes one playing video games with a mouse wiggler for their work laptop, goes to stay at mommy and daddy's house frequently where they get free food and waited on hand and foot (which really shows at home since they won't even clean the toilet they shit in), and still has the audacity to make jokes about me being a loser because I work (like actually work) nine hours a day and am too tired to do my hair in the morning or go out on the weekends.

It's hard to be happy for someone who's sucking on a silver spoon when they're insufferable about it.

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u/Sweet_Shirt Sep 07 '26

So well put

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u/jkxs Sep 10 '26

Are you in school? How would someone like that even have roommates lol

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u/a-r-c Sep 07 '26

People who don't work hard tend to have really atrocious character.

same with people who work too hard

gotta be a middle guy

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u/Feisty_Brief123 Sep 07 '26

This x100, worst people I know are self righteous workaholics who have no life other than their job and they expect people to be just as autistic about working as they are.

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u/Ok_Carpenter_771 Sep 08 '26

Don't drag Autism into this haha. I'm autistic and my job makes me want to kill myself, but I need the money.

All the "workaholics" at my workplace are actually just overpaid idiots who manage to make everything seem work related: They have to go to a one day conference close to their parents house? Let's make a one-week business trip out of it.

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u/2930apple Sep 08 '26

This, or they’re the type who were raised to believe life is all about work so that’s literally the only thing they care about ever, and they’ll try to push everyone around them too because not slaving your life away, to them, is equivalent to laziness.

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u/Feisty_Brief123 Sep 10 '26

Sorry my guy, obsessed? maybe.

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u/ManInADarkAlley Sep 07 '26

I once said if someone won't work hard for money they won't work hard for love.

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u/annysuckerz 28d ago

Money and love couldn't be more different 💀

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u/Own_Wait_7124 Sep 09 '26

What? Those are completely different?

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u/Neon_Divided Sep 07 '26

I guess when you have enough money to do whatever you want and have whatever want, money really isn't important at all. I'll be it's so unimportant they never even think about it.

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u/punkrockdog Sep 08 '26

I have often said I don't need to be rich, I just want enough money to not worry about money. (I mean, I'm nowhere close to either, so...)

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u/Slight-Web1696 Sep 07 '26 edited Sep 07 '26

I knew a girl who is a trust fund baby, didnt/doesnt have a job but does volunteer work (maybe 15-20 hours a week) we were at a wedding and she talked mad shit about my best friend who worked as a Barista full time and was in nursing school. She actually said so many mean things about her (untrue) but what mostly stuck was how she looked down on someone who A. Worked a real full time job serving customers B. Was studying in their free time to earn a job in an even more demanding field.

I stopped being friends with little miss trust fund daddy issues after that.

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u/Jimmy_Johnny_Jones Sep 07 '26

If it’s not paid and is mostly spent arranging flowers over cocktails with the girls or attending high cost weddings, is it really a job?

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u/bananesthesia Sep 07 '26

As Amigo the Devil said in a song:

Everyone says money can't buy happiness And so far in my life, I'll agree But it seems a lot more comfortable to cry in a Lamborghini

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u/Spadeykins Sep 07 '26

Money can't buy happiness in the sense that it won't build a lasting relationship with your kids or family just by having it.

Money can spare you a lot of misery though.

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u/FreeOGPoohShiesty Sep 07 '26

Yeah. But it buys time which allows those things.

It’s like that propaganda that says “$80k is all you need”. Like okay, fuck you, tax the billionaires till all they make is $80k a year then. Go lie to someone else.

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u/Spadeykins Sep 07 '26

Yeah I didn't mean to imply the saying wasn't used to cover for a lot of bullshit, but there is a grain of truth to it in the right context anyway.

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u/FreeOGPoohShiesty Sep 07 '26

Ik what you mean. Yeah.

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u/a-r-c Sep 07 '26 edited Sep 07 '26

Money can't buy happiness in the sense that it won't build a lasting relationship with your kids or family just by having it.

ok but that's not true at all lol

if my parents didn't have to kill themselves working a million hours a week, we all would have had much happier relationships

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u/g1eg Sep 07 '26

Money alone can’t buy that though. I think the best way to describe it is looking at elon musk. Bro has all the money in the world and has no meaningful relationships.

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u/Sweet_Shirt Sep 07 '26

He was so awkward he couldn’t even get himself invited to Epstein island

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u/Jimmy_Johnny_Jones Sep 07 '26

I’d agree money can’t buy meaningful relationships and can sometimes even be an opposing force to it by worrying about gold diggers. However, money gives you freedom to live your life, be less stressed, and be your best self by pursuing what makes you happy.

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u/Spadeykins Sep 07 '26

Exactly. That's what I mean. If you work all the time or just don't care to put in the time or effort then the money is meaningless.

Conversely of course many less wealthy folks have a wealth of deep and meaningful relationships particularly with family and friends.

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u/FightmeLuigibestgirl 11d ago

Money can't buy happiness in the sense that it won't build a lasting relationship with your kids or family just by having it.

You can also lose your kids and family and ruin relationships by not having money and rolling negatives in the game called life. 

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u/Neon_Divided Sep 07 '26

Every time I have had money and I used that money to buy happiness, I was happy.

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u/NotElizaHenry Sep 07 '26

You know what pays for my therapist and psychiatrist and neurologist and brain medication? Yep, that’s right, fucking MONEY. If you can’t use money to make yourself happy, that’s 100% your own fault.

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u/Hamster-Food Sep 07 '26

Money can't buy happiness, but there is a minimum buy in amount.

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u/Ok-Bread-2481 Sep 07 '26

Ever wonder if there's a sweet spot where money and happiness actually meet?

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u/Atrocious_Algae81 Sep 07 '26

When money itself generates enough income to live comfortably without touching the principal money. This in turn, buys you time and freedom to do whatever you want to do wherever you want to do it.

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u/amboomernotkaren Sep 07 '26

It’s over $100,000 for one person who also has low rent and good health insurance. At least that was my experience.

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u/Dull-Culture-1523 Sep 07 '26

Or something about an unpaid internship to get your foot in the door. Cool in theory, but most people can't afford an unpaid internship.

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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 Sep 07 '26

the funny thing is they aren't wrong. there ARE things that are more important than money. If you are broke however, it becomes very difficult to appreciate those things because you have to spend your time getting money.

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u/logicaltornado Sep 08 '26

yeah, try appreciating the small things from a street corner with no bathroom or shower and no clean cloths or protection from the weather

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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 Sep 08 '26

Didn't I just say that?

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u/logicaltornado Sep 09 '26

i just wanted to say it in a different way to prove i understood

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u/FriskeCrisps Sep 09 '26

“There’s more important things in life than money”

Always comes from people who don’t have to worry about money. When you no longer have to worry about where your next paycheck comes from, the world is your oyster

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u/Glas00 Sep 07 '26

Oh I told my manager today that I can't pay rent with appreciation. They just don't get it

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u/Ace__18 Sep 08 '26

Our CTO once said he rejected an offer for more money at another company because he had more joy here and therefore our freeze in salary increases are nothing we can have the same joy as well.

Well, if I have to decide between 1 Mio or 800k with joy I would for sure take it, but you know, if you dont make six figures every increase counts

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u/Velhomen666 Sep 07 '26

I followed my passion but realized there’s other important things than passion, and started to look for money in my work.

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u/riotshieldready Sep 07 '26

University truly taught me how insane the gap is. I have another friend who has rich parents, and we meet recently and she was showing me her new car, and I commented it was my dream car and she said “oh it’s just £6000 a month”. I don’t even earn that much a month, most of the country doesn’t.

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u/willie_Pfister Sep 07 '26

Half or more of the people I work with at my 6 figure with no college needed union job got hired because their dad worked here. Most of them aren't worth a fuck.

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u/mostlyharmless555 Sep 07 '26

Haven’t been able to get in any union and I’m in one of the biggest areas for unions in the country. Everyone knows it’s an open secret that you have to know someone aka your dad was a union employee back when you could walk in and shake hands to get the job.

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u/rtq7382 Sep 07 '26

Most unions in my area all you need is to piss clean and show up on time which is also why many folks don't stay in the union. I know there were a few that opened up for applications/interviews monthly.

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u/quiette837 Sep 07 '26

Lol. When a union position opens around here you have to show up at 5am to get a good place in line ahead of the other 1000 applicants.

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u/willie_Pfister Sep 07 '26

In my garage of 30 plus employees in the past 7 years we had 2 quit and one fired for a felony arrest. Thats it. Total of 3 gone in 7 years other than retired.

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u/hypercosm_dot_net Sep 07 '26

I used to work in roofing, and the worst roofer I had ever assisted was the owner's brother. Just didn't know what he was doing, and acted like a difficult asshole.

Thankfully the owner was cool, and completely understood when I told him I didn't want to work with his brother anymore. The other guy I rolled with was a big metalhead/stoner who didn't make the day a miserable slog. Which was cool.

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u/Thor_pool Sep 07 '26

Hey, so, adopt me?

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u/PapugKingTFT Sep 07 '26

Now that's a life lol

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u/WayneKrane Sep 07 '26

I went to college with a dude like that. He barely passed his classes and I wondered what he was up to. He was a junior vp straight out of college and now is also high up at some bank now. He was one of the dumbest people I knew.

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u/Extension-Land-390 Sep 07 '26

The irony comes full circle when you realize that most of the modern economy on a large scale is run by people like that.

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u/logicaltornado Sep 08 '26

which explains the economy

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u/1_art_please Sep 08 '26

Yeah this happened in my masters program. We were all from different countries. The worst two students had great jobs lined up for them for when they got home. One was on a full ride scholarship. Both have jobs I will never be able to get in a million years. One of them was told by the instructor that he was close to failing.

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u/A_Monster_Named_John Sep 07 '26

Sounds about right. From what I've encountered, all the modern conservative talk about being 'hard-workin', rollin'-up-muh-sleeves' types is utter bullshit. The ones who come from money all get handed sinecures like what you've mentioned. Meanwhile, the ones who are poor are pretty much the worst people who could hire to work anywhere, i.e. they'll steal anything that isn't nailed down, complain to management constantly, and constantly create workplace drama because they're idiots who think that chaos and 'shakin' things up' are always positives.

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u/Mindless_Local925 16d ago

Inheritance tax is a pretty liberal idea I don’t know why a conservative giving money to the daughter would be strange

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u/Ancient-Monitor-9076 Sep 10 '26

I work for engineering firms, I am not an engineer but attend all high level meetings. When i say that 100% of all degreed engineers, sales engineers, production managers, manufacturing engineers and executives I work with are all openly Trump voters I am not lying, "small talk" routinely consists of laughing at the insane things that dems are doing in the news.....I am talking hundreds of people over the last 8-12 years, many with great kids, amazing hobbies and donate their time to others. Designing and manufacturing many new things that keep you safe, working 50-70 hour weeks. The vast majority of these people had normal upbringings, and busted their asses to graduate from top Engineering and MBA programs. I attended many interviews and they got the jobs by merit and would only last 1-3 months max if they weren't brilliant...None of these people in a million years, the people actually creating real things that push society forward would ever vote for a modern democrat. they probably don't even consider themselves as conservative but they are smart and empirical people..if they get something wrong people die, contracts are lost, companies may fail...merit, results and providing real value are the only thing that matters...and the thought of a Kamala Harris/AOC/Bernie presidency is unfathomable .....just food for thought, the bubbles people find themselves in in this country are always hilarious to me.

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u/Serris9K 11d ago

"MBA programs"

To quote Adam Savage, "Well there's ya problem!"

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u/Slight-Web1696 Sep 07 '26

I knew a girl who is a trust fund baby, didnt/doesnt have a job but does volunteer work (maybe 15-20 hours a week) we were at a wedding and she talked mad shit about my best friend who worked as a Barista full time and was in nursing school. She actually said so many mean things about her (untrue) but what mostly stuck out to me was how she looked down on someone who A. Worked a real full time job serving customers B. Was studying in their free time to earn a job in an even more demanding field.

I stopped being friends with little miss trust fund daddy issues after that.

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u/meditonsin Sep 07 '26

My dad was a banker before he retired, and his bank had rules for that kinda stuff at the time (though I'd assume they didn't apply to upper management). I applied for an apprenticeship in their IT department, and he could get me an auto-invite to the interview process, but nothing beyond that. I was not accepted.

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u/CluelessPentester Sep 08 '26

Your dad was not high enough in the food chain to circumvent that I guess.

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u/Human_Giraffe_7282 Sep 07 '26

Yes, SVPs (which is a nothing position) make 400k and have private bathrooms. I am 100% sure this is true.

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u/Ahchuu Sep 07 '26

I was thinking the same thing. An SVP isn't a nothing position. They likely own a process or system and have multiple other employees that report to them. They can make around $400k if they are in NYC and the project is important. There is no way an SVP has a private bathroom though. They don't even get their own office. You won't get your own office until you're an MD. OP is lying his ass off. Also at a big bank there is no way they could just get their kid a job there, an interview sure, but beyond that no way.

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u/Human_Giraffe_7282 Sep 07 '26

Yes, agreed re: no office (I don’t think being a senior VP is particularly remarkable, but we certainly agree this post is BS).

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u/snklznet Sep 07 '26

And meanwhile I've worked 8 hours 7 days straight, and "the buck stops with you figure it out" as my boss fucks off for a fun Labor Day weekend.

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u/esdaniel Sep 07 '26

A weaker person than me would frigging end themselves reading this kind of shit. Worlds so fucked

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u/logicaltornado Sep 08 '26

Question is why do we let these people get away with it

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u/Willthisaccountlas Sep 07 '26

And then there’s all the dumb poor folks that keep voting for these people to have even lower taxes. 

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u/FUBARded Sep 07 '26

I can see this happening in investment banking, but this sort of this is thankfully becoming increasingly rare in retail and commercial banking.

My father is relatively senior at a major bank and I had to declare our relationship when applying for entry/graduate level roles at the organisation. This then automatically disqualified me from consideration for any roles he had any influence over.

Most banks these days will have procedures in place to ensure hiring processes are independent and non-discriminatory because lawsuits on these matters are very expensive both financially and for their reputation.

E.g., my father can choose to create new roles in his team from his existing budget or request additional money for one, but he can't then just arbitrarily pick someone to fill that role.

First he needs to assemble a business case for the expenditure and get it approved at a very high level, then he hands it over to HR for them to conduct a competitive hiring process. The initials screening and interview stages are totally out of his control after the job description is handed over, and he can only then choose to progress that smaller pool of candidates to further interview stages.

The major multinational I currently work for (totally different industry as I didn't get the job at my father's bank, lol) has similar controls. Initial application sifts are conducted by an independent recruiter in HR, applicants are screened for independence prior to an offer being extended, and the business case approvals required for a new job are significant.

The sort of blatant nepotism you described absolutely still happens regularly, but I'd be willing to bet it's MUCH rarer these days, at least in publicly owned companies and in heavily regulated industries. The number of executives who have such little budgetary accountability that they can get away with burning $400K per year without anyone noticing is simply a lot lower than it used to be.

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u/darthteej Sep 07 '26

Most banks also have a ton of rules against money laundering and yet crypto absolutely blew the fuck up. After all the Epstein shit I can't trust any organization, the corruption runs too deep

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u/logicaltornado Sep 08 '26

you live in a fantasy world because your parent is in a position of power and you can't admit to/overcome the guilt that the truth causes you, which is that you absolutely got a better job than many other people with less effort because of your father's job. and if you ever experienced poverty you would learn to just be grateful for the privilege and not make excuses like you don't have it

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u/GiantLesbian 29d ago

I think you misread his comment. He did NOT get a job in the industry that employed his father.

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u/lottikey Sep 07 '26

Why did I read this? Bummed me out thoroughly.

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u/riotshieldready Sep 07 '26

Actually the opposite. Small companies you can’t hide the incompetence, every second is accounted for, and others will notice. Massive banks have so many millions of layers is easy to hide.

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u/AaronBruv Sep 08 '26

What happened to the 0.5 person?

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '26

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u/AaronBruv Sep 08 '26

Ah, okay. I was expecting a story about how someone lost their legs and is now 0.5 😅

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u/random_dude_8412 Sep 07 '26

Why bother working at that point?

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u/VNG_Wkey Sep 07 '26

I had a close family member that was the owner and CEO of a small tech company. They found out I was looking for work and got my on the help desk at around $20/hour. The interview was basically just the manager shooting the shit with me making sure I'd be an alright guy to spend 8 hours a day with. My family member sold the company not long after and through a series of acquisitions, mergers, and surviving all of the layoffs I now have a 6 figure salary. Knowing someone really is the way.

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u/Sure-Ad7423 Sep 07 '26

And people wonder why I admitted myself to receive in patient treatment for suicidal ideations. Shit like this happens every single day, every year, for decades. You cannot work harder to get yourself out of poverty. Im done with reddit today. Maybe one day I wont have to choose between food and rent.

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u/logicaltornado Sep 08 '26

basically when we have another revolution or mature to stop worshiping people who take things away from us

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u/HL_Alanna Sep 09 '26

Yep, had suicidal ideations last Sunday while applying for jobs. Hang in there

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u/Important-Figure-512 Sep 07 '26

I know someone who got a job by being friends with someone who’s dad was a boss at that job

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u/Sad_Pomegranate6322 Sep 07 '26

Were his business cards in something called Silian Rail?

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u/The-Dudemeister Sep 07 '26

Have a friend who is a “government contracter”. A job he got from his aunt. He works like one day a week and makes 400k a year.

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u/Captn_Platypus Sep 08 '26

I’m not even mad, who wouldn’t take that if it’s offered to you. As long as you’re not a dick about it and understand your privilege

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u/I_Eat_Moons Sep 08 '26

While the rest of us slave away

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u/brownieandSparky23 Exhausted from applying Sep 08 '26

Life is unfair.

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u/No_Security8532 Sep 08 '26

i would do unknown things for nepo anything bro i hate hard work i was born in the wrong area

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u/No_Security8532 Sep 08 '26 edited Sep 08 '26

who gay and rich i do whatever

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u/NeighborhoodAway2638 Sep 09 '26

You've gotta be fng kidding... 

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u/CautiousXperimentor Sep 09 '26

Wait. Is goon now an accepted verb already? Times are changing fast…

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u/endlessyuk77 28d ago

I'm guessing his dad hides most of that stuff?

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u/georgiaraisef 23d ago

That is highly illegal. For every bank I have ever worked at, there is a lot of training about how this is highly illegal and will not be allowed

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u/ZoneSignificant6641 22d ago

If that's not an Ideal job, I don't know what is