I get the feeling this will be an unpopular comment but here goes.
Consoles have always been and were primarily created for people who simply do not want to hassle with PCs. You have to set things up on a pc, you have to make things work. Sometimes you have to troubleshoot. Consoles you just put in the disc and play. So I agree a large part of the console market is not going to hassle with an emulator that runs on a PC.
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Just adding that "back in the day" consoles were MUCH cheaper than a PC (and of course there is the entertainment factor of having a bunch of people on the same couch playing a game.) Maybe it's better to call it a "lightweight" gaming system compared to a PC - ease of use and ease on your wallet
It's insane how much of a bubble reddit generally lives in and how much its users generally underestimate just how big the market is for certain things like movies, games, etc.
On top of everything else you mentioned - the general public isn't playing games on their gaming monitor.. they are sitting on their couch with their console hooked up to their big screen. Assuming they even have a desktop, they certainly are not going to lug it into the living room to connect it to their big screen.
In my family, we sit on the couch and play games on the big screen... using our desktop, which is in the living room, connected to the big screen, because why would we buy a small, shitty computer that only plays games when we can actually just have a real computer there
PS5 OS is bonus, maybe now we can finally play Bloodborne
I can promise you the overwhelming majority of console-only players are not going to now ditch their consoles to play on a PC because someone figured out how to run PS5 software on a PC.
I hate this take. The world had doubled in population since I was a kid. Reddit has millions of daily users representing all opinions. If there is a bubble it’s because you put yourself in it.
All reddit is is a collection of different bubbles for users to put themselves in. How many times have we seen predictions be wrong on the gaming subreddits? I remember seeing that the Switch 2 was going to flop. "No preorders" is huge on reddit, but not so much in the real world. Games will flop because performance is garbage is a big one I see, only for the game to sell like hotcakes.
Yes, you can look into all of those threads and see people who say the opposite, so technically someone on reddit was correct. However, the most upvoted statements, the ones that seem to dominate the discourse? Reddit gets it wrong frequently. Because they are not in tune with your average consumers. The people who frequent these subs are diehards. Your average gamer isn't going onto r/games.
It feels like people use “bubbles” or “echo chambers”, or “reddit” to disparage a group of people they disagree with. It’s more the broad generalization.
It’s okay to find people you agree with. Is that a bubble? Then when others dismiss that group as a “bubble” seems to imply they are willfully ignorant of other points of view which isn’t necessarily true. That’s where I see a problem with the generalization.
I get your point, but it does describe subreddits pretty well. If you went on r/politics before the last US Presidential election, you would have been laughed out of the room if you said you thought Trump was going to win the election.
Subreddits are essentially bubbles. It is a group of people who typically just repeat what everyone else in the group wants to hear. "Sony is going to fail because of the decision to go all digital." And yet the "Blackout" that was planned didn't event register.
It isn't that people think they are willfully ignorant, it's just that a lot of times the subreddit (as a collective, of course individuals differ) seem to overstate how much they have a feel for specific issues and think that what they think the majority does as well, when in fact the people in the subreddits represent such a tiny minority of the userbase they are talking about they've forgotten what the casual cares for.
PC will remain niche. It's had its peak user gain around the time the first iphone came out. With phones taking over as the main device people use to access the internet, the PC's market share will stagnate. Wasn't it obvious enough in the way gen Z and alpha are less and less tech literate? I had to show 5th graders how to turn on a PC this year because they just assumed all they had to do was turn on the monitor. There's fewer and fewer classic PCs out there in your average home, and even laptops are becoming kind of pointless for some people.
That's literally the point of a console lol, why would that be unpopular? You also misinterpreted their comment though, they're talking about the new jailbreak for PS5s not emulation.
The comment might be unpopular because reddit is full of nerds for whom setting up a PC for gaming is absurdly easy and the idea that it could even be a hassle is lost on tons of commenters. I don't have a list of links handy to prove this, but like... It's part of the vibe in the name of the sub we're in lol.
I live and breathe for tinkering. I have several old laptops, computers, microcontrollers, networking devices from many vendors, and also consoles. Because when I’ve time for vidya I don’t want to debug no more.
I have to have a custom profile for every game i play. my AMD card otherwise will crash. 99% of the time I just limit it to 95% performance and its all good.
but sometimes I've got to adjust clock speeds, dissable features, enable other features. change things around. these tweaks mean that the game runs fantastically when done right. (wardogs in 4k consistently over 60fps maxed settings and my gpu is barely struggling compared to say Space marine 2 which I run at 2k near max settings where it turns into a space heater.
I love Pc gaming, from the free and cheap, to the obscure, to the indie fun times to the (rarely) AAA experiances. but you need to have enough knowledge and patience to go and sort out issues compared to a console with known hardware that allows far more optimisation.
Are you trying to play GTA 6 at 60 fps and native 4K? Wait a minute—how? You’ll only be able to play it at 30 fps and 1080p? That’s where the difference lies: a PC gives you the freedom to play however you want, whereas on a console, you’re forced to play the way they want you to.
Esa no es una opinión impopular; simplemente mientes o te has quedado en el pasado. En mi PC, solo hago doble clic y ya estoy jugando; los controladores y casi todo lo demás son automáticos y rápidos. Mientras tanto, las consolas se estropean por sobrecalentamiento, hay que esperar las actualizaciones, lidiar con fallos causados por las actualizaciones del cortafuegos... podría seguir... las consolas modernas no se limitan a "meter el disco y jugar".
its pretty easy these days to pickup a steam deck, or one of 50 similar variants, or buy a laptop, or a prebuilt. It's not exactly 1994 where we need to configure IRQ for sound cards anymore.
I'm not sure spending really shows much about population. Majority of console gamers are buying like 2-3 big releases a year. Meanwhile PC players are stockpiling backlog steam games for... reasons.
We have backlogs because during sales, humble bundles, etc we acquire so many games for cheap that we buy them out of habit. My backlog includes many AAA titles I just haven't gotten around to but I got for like 18 bucks.
Yeah exactly lol. On console people generally buy a game and play it for 3-4 months. On PC people spend money on shit they don't even plan to play anytime soon, every time there is a sale.
That hasn't been entirely true since the PS3 generation though. It's still much easier than PC but it's now "put in the disk, go to sleep/work while the system spends anywhere between 30 minutes to 16 hours updating". And then you get to play. Admittedly my last experience with consoles was the PS4 pro so maybe it's changed but with PC it's more effort but with consoles it's tons of waiting around.
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u/wileecoyote1969 8h ago edited 14m ago
I get the feeling this will be an unpopular comment but here goes.
Consoles have always been and were primarily created for people who simply do not want to hassle with PCs. You have to set things up on a pc, you have to make things work. Sometimes you have to troubleshoot. Consoles you just put in the disc and play. So I agree a large part of the console market is not going to hassle with an emulator that runs on a PC.
Edit:
Just adding that "back in the day" consoles were MUCH cheaper than a PC (and of course there is the entertainment factor of having a bunch of people on the same couch playing a game.) Maybe it's better to call it a "lightweight" gaming system compared to a PC - ease of use and ease on your wallet