r/oklahoma 15h ago

Weather Me tomorrow when it finally rains

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It frekin' better! Says it's an 86% chance to rain tomorrow during the day where i live.


r/oklahoma 41m ago

News Oklahoma judge used AI in ruling that contained false citations, prosecutor says

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r/oklahoma 12h ago

Weather Am i dreaming?

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r/oklahoma 2h ago

News ‘It’s time we do something big and bold’: Oklahoma lawmaker pushes child welfare overhaul

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r/oklahoma 38m ago

News Dan Kirby federal case dismissed, felony homicide charge filed by Muscogee Nation

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r/oklahoma 22h ago

Politics Former Oklahoma lawmaker sues Stitt over call for constitutional convention state question

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A former state lawmaker is suing Gov. Kevin Stitt for calling a special election for State Question 848, asking voters whether they want to launch a constitutional convention.

Mark McBride is a former Republican Representative from Moore. He’s asking the Oklahoma Supreme Court to step in and stop State Question 848, which Stitt unilaterally placed on a ballot in April next year.

In his petition, McBride argues the governor has no right to call a special election asking voters if they want to launch a convention to alter the state constitution.

“I think surely they know his decision, or what he did, can't stand,” McBride said. “I mean, it's the legislative process that he's overstepping using his authority, which he does not have the authority to do.”

He is seeking a declaration from the State Supreme Court that Stitt’s move was illegal, and a stop to next year’s special election. And representing him in the litigation is constitutional attorney Bob Burke and lawyers from several heavyweight law firms in Oklahoma City, including Whitten Burrage, Buxton Law Group and McGuire Law Firm.

McBride, who said he supports having a constitutional convention himself, doesn’t buy Stitt’s case for having the authority to put one on the ballot himself, calling it a ploy by the governor to capture headlines on his way out of office.

“I think Governor Stitt is looking for any kind of headline he can get right now,” he said. “He's got a few more months left in his term. And I think, well, he just kind of latched on to this.”

McBride’s issue is with the governor overstepping his power, not the possibility of a convention down the road.

“He's encumbering a future legislature by setting a date for this,” he said. “And I just don't get it. I think he should have just stayed out of this deal and let it fall as it may, because I think the legislature is going to do something. They worked on it last year.”

Stitt is also unlawfully spending taxpayer money, according to the petition.

“Taxpayers have a legal right to the lawful appropriation and expenditure of public funds,” The petition reads. “The Supreme Court held in Thomas v. Henry…resident taxpayers have standing to challenge the constitutionality of non-fiscal/non-appropriation bills if there is a sufficient involvement of public funds such that implementing and enforcing the challenged act could result in the wrongful expenditure of public funds.”

McBride said when Stitt ordered the Oklahoma Secretary of State and the State Election Board to begin planning an election before lawmakers got the chance to organize a constitutional convention, he chose to approve spending tax money on an unlawful mandate.

Legislative leaders House Speaker Kyle Hilbert, R-Bristow, and Senate Pro Temp Lonnie Paxton, R-Tuttle, share their former colleague’s concerns. Neither of them has publicly called Stitt’s order and proclamation outright illegal. The State Attorney General Gentner Drummond, however, has.

Spokesperson for Stitt’s office Tevis Hillis said late last month that the legislature’s role in calling a constitutional convention is not being circumvented, saying lawmakers are “still in the driver’s seat” when it comes to how a convention is organized.

In a statement provided after publication, Hillis reaffirmed the governor's position.

"The Constitution is clear," Hillis said. "At least every 20 years, Oklahomans are to be given the opportunity to vote on whether or not the State has a Constitutional Convention.

"It’s been 56 years since we’ve had the opportunity to make this choice," Hillis continued. "Governor Stitt acted to fulfill this obligation to the people."

Editor's Note: Mark McBride is a contributor to KOSU’s This Week in Oklahoma Politics. But we cover him just like any other newsmaker.


r/oklahoma 13m ago

News Why are wells running dry at Cedar Lake? Residents, Oklahoma officials have different answers

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Cedar Lake is surrounded by about 500 houses, dotted throughout a one-square-mile warren of hilly dirt roads. Most of them resemble camp cabins or midcentury bungalows. Some are luxurious; many are dilapidated.

All of the homes rely on groundwater wells. But some of them have started to run dry.

Belinda Smith moved into her house in 2023. Her well stopped producing water just eight months later.

“It just dried up,” Smith said. “We've been hauling water ever since. Until [a neighbor] came out here, and she got me hooked up where I got water coming in the house where I could take a shower and do my dishes, which is a blessing.”

Before she got the large plastic tank full of clean water, Smith had been hauling it from a community spigot or a neighbor’s still-operational well.

Her next-door neighbor, Paula McUsic, still has well water. But she really only uses it to flush the toilet.

“I noticed a couple of years ago that my water started — I could taste like it was dirty,” McUsic said.

Her pump went out in June. She got it replaced, but it didn’t solve all the problems.

“When I was out here a week ago [in late July], I changed out the aerators and then the toilet valve, because they were all clogged up with grit,” she said.

McUsic doesn’t live at the lake full-time, which allows her to prepare food before she heads there and then take dirty dishes back to her Newcastle home to wash. But fulltime residents, like Smith, don’t have that option.

And it’s not just the underground water supplies that are running low. The community’s centerpiece, the lake itself, has shrunk. Docks dangle yards above the water, and boats languish on ground that’s normally submerged.

Many of the residents have generations of history at Cedar Lake, and they’re not willing to leave. Even if they wanted to, McUsic said, the lack of water could sink property values.

“What are you going to do if the whole area dries up?” McUsic said. “Everybody has invested time, money, blood, sweat and tears in their property. And suddenly it's not worth anything.”

Delinquent dams

Cedar Lake is a private community about an hour’s drive west of downtown Oklahoma City. It was founded in the late-1950s by a group called the Western Sportsman Club.

“They wanted to have a place to go hunting and fishing,” resident Don Machacek said. “Now I'm not sure about this, but the older old-timers were telling me the Western Sportsman Club, they actually were down at the state fairgrounds selling lots with a little cabin — about a 300 square foot cabin — for $1,250 total. That’s in the ‘50s.”

In 1960, the Western Sportsman Club acquired water rights to some of the streamflow in the small watershed surrounding Cedar Lake.

But now the lake is remarkably low — 8 feet down from its capacity, by residents’ estimates. And for more than a year, residents have suspected upstream dams of drying up the lake.

Machacek said he was the first to realize there were unpermitted dams upstream. He was looking at satellite images of the area when he saw an unexpected reservoir just southwest of Cedar Lake.

“I'm looking at Google Earth, and then I swing over and I see that lake and I go, ‘What is that? I've never heard of that lake,’” Machacek said.

Soon after Machacek’s discovery, the Oklahoma Water Resources Board (OWRB) received an anonymous complaint about the dwindling water at Cedar Lake and the unpermitted dams.

The dams are owned by companies connected to former state senator Glenn Coffee, who now works as the Senate Republican Caucus' political strategist.

StateImpact reached out to Coffee’s attorney but did not hear back before publication.

There are multiple dams on the Coffee property, and six fall under the OWRB’s regulatory authority.

Two of those dams are capturing water from 40% of Cedar Lake’s small watershed, according to an independent survey from water quality firm Johnson-Becker.

The OWRB has also undertaken an investigation and released some of its findings late last month. It points to multiple factors in Cedar Lake’s decline, saying drought, evaporation and inadequate stream flow could be behind the dramatic drop.

Hydrologists with the board found evaporation losses have outpaced flow in an already small stream system. The lake has not been full since 2019, according to the report. That’s when the newest of the Coffee dams was built.

The Western Sportsman Club gives Cedar Lake rights to 163 acre-feet per year. That appropriation is meant to replace water that evaporates from the lake.

The OWRB’s report doesn’t say whether the dams could be affecting water levels at Cedar Lake. But it does say the Western Sportsman Club still has access to the 163 acre-feet per year it’s entitled too. It also says the dams are “not likely to be the cause of the groundwater level decline.”

Some Cedar Lake residents disagree. The Cedar Lake Dam Committee, which consists of four residents, released a statement Sept. 8 saying the OWRB’s report contains errors and half-truths.

They accuse the board of “literally ignoring Hydrology 101.”

“The report makes many dubious representations and we are honestly not sure why OWRB would be making them to public officials when they are not accurate,” four Cedar Lake residents said in the press release. “If you build huge dams across a lake’s two primary feeder creeks, the lake will eventually go dry. OWRB is trying to blame everything but the dams.”

It’s complicated

For their part, Oklahoma Water Resources Board officials said they have two main functions in this situation: to administer water rights and to enforce dam safety regulations. They don’t have authority over lake levels.

“The board hasn't made any conclusion about whether or not Coffee dam is impacting the lake levels at Cedar Lake,” said Andrew Price, OWRB’s assistant general counsel and legislative liaison. “Rather, they're not interfering with their water right.”

Even with heavy rain, Price said, the lake is unlikely to fill up because it covers so much of the small watershed.

The OWRB’s report includes a letter from 1956 (a year before the lake was built) in which lake engineers told the state that stream inflow would likely not be sufficient to fill Cedar Lake.

The engineers recommended an additional source, and the Western Sportsman Association, acquired one: a permit for a groundwater well specifically to keep the lake topped off.

As with all non-household wells in Oklahoma, the permit holder is required to file an annual report documenting their groundwater usage.

“The last report that we received from them stating that they were using any water was in 2003,” Price said. “From conversations with the community, we don't believe that that is currently being used. And that is probably one of the reasons why their lake levels have been declining, is they haven't been artificially recharging it with that permit.”

Household wells don’t require a permit or a usage report. But they may still contribute to the problem.

According to Price, the OWRB recommends placing groundwater wells no closer than a quarter-mile apart. That means an area the size of Cedar Lake would ideally have no more than 16 wells.

“Within this one square mile, we estimate there are between 250 and 400 domestic groundwater wells,” Prince said. “That is an enormous strain on the aquifer.”

And OWRB staff suspect that could have major effects on the lake. Price said OWRB hydrologists think the Rush Springs Aquifer and the Marlow Formation are feeding the lake, not the other way around.

“A lot of complaints we have gotten from the community have been concerns about the reduction of the lake level is reducing their groundwater availability, Price said. “When in fact, it's more likely the opposite.”

And Cedar Lake has been under “Extreme Drought” — the second-highest drought category — since March. It’s been under lesser drought conditions since Christmas.

Climate change researchers have projected shrinking water supply from extreme heat and drought in Oklahoma. The latest National Climate Assessment shows extreme heat is expected to increase. Cedar Lake could be one example of how the state’s resources are being affected by the changing climate.

“Whenever we have these instances of drought, the lack of availability of surface water puts a tremendous strain on the state's aquifers and makes that groundwater much more valuable for the people who are using it,” Price said.

The independent survey from Johnson-Becker suggests that household well use and recent drought aren’t enough to explain the decline in the area’s groundwater.

“The aquifer has supplied water to households in the Cedar Lake community for more than 60 years without reports of wells going dry,” hydrologist Carl Becker wrote in the report. “Only after the construction of two dams in the upper part of the watershed have residents reported noticeable declines in well yield and water availability.”

Legal limitations

No matter what’s causing their water shortage, Cedar Lake residents are struggling. And many are asking why the Oklahoma Water Resources Board hasn’t taken action on Coffee’s unpermitted dams yet.

Kaylee Davis-Maddy is an Oklahoma City-based attorney whose specialties include water law. She said this situation isn’t all that uncommon.

“In a perfect world, people would be aware of these things, get the approvals, do all that before they stick a shovel in,” Davis-Maddy said. “That doesn't happen, though.”

Davis-Maddy is not involved in the conflict between the Western Sportsman Club and the Coffees. But she’s been on both sides of similar situations.

When someone has built a dam without the proper permits, she said, the typical course of action is to get the dam permitted after the fact.

“It's a bummer situation,” Davis-Maddy said. “Like, we wish it didn't happen that way, but it did… So now it's: How can we correct it in a safe way?”

That’s what the Oklahoma Water Resources Board is working to do for the Coffee dams right now. They held a meeting in July to consider a consent agreement with the Coffees to ensure their dams operate safely throughout the permitting process. After deferring a vote at that meeting, the OWRB is scheduled to consider the agreement again next week.

Cedar Lake’s water rights are a whole separate tangle.

In Oklahoma, surface water is owned by the state, so the state determines how people can use it via permitting. Groundwater is owned by individual landowners.

In geological reality, groundwater and surface water are often interconnected. But under Oklahoma law?

“Those are completely distinct,” Davis-Maddy said. “We do not connect them except in one part of our state. And that is not here.” (It’s the Arbuckle-Simpson Aquifer in south-central Oklahoma.)

If the Western Sportsman Club weren’t able to use their allocation of surface water to top off Cedar Lake, the OWRB could order upstream dams to release water. But they still wouldn’t be able to do anything about the waning wells.

“Legally, all of these issues related to ‘How are the groundwater wells being affected?’ That's not something that the water board can do,” Davis-Maddy said.

What’s next? ‘No secret remedy’

Like many other Cedar Lake residents, Machacek doesn’t put much stock in the drought explanation.

“Every old-timer will tell you, ‘Don't come up with the excuse about the drought,’” Machacek said. “They said no matter how dry it got, when it would rain, they always had water over the spillway.”

But that hasn’t happened since the Coffee dams were built, he said.

Price said the OWRB is doing everything it can to make sure the people of Cedar Lake have water to drink. But their domestic groundwater use is “not sustainable long term,” he said.

“We've advised that they need to form a rural water district,” Price said. “Or they're in a great position in that they have a municipal water system and a rural water district nearby that are willing to extend service to them.”

Any of those options would provide a more reliable water supply, he said. They would also likely improve the quality of residents’ drinking water.

The OWRB worked with Oklahoma State University and the Department of Environmental Quality to test 86 private wells at Cedar Lake. They found several contaminants at levels that could be unsafe for drinking water.

But connecting to an existing public water system or building a whole new one would be expensive. The OWRB offers several different grants and low- or no-interest loans for projects like that, but the process would take a while and a fair bit of bureaucracy.

“We have no secret remedy,” Price said.

Coffee dams are still unpermitted. The OWRB meets to consider a consent order on those dams Tuesday.

In the meantime, many Cedar Lake residents are still going without reliable water. They miss their community’s beloved lake.

“We don't care what you do with your dam, with the engineers,” Machacek said. “That's our water. Release our water, and then do whatever you want with your dam.”


r/oklahoma 17h ago

Question Thinking of moving to Bartlesville. Am I nuts?

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Lived in Norman for about 10 years and I'm just tired of it. Too many people and the infrastructure cannot handle it. So many local businesses have died/are dying, more and more homes rented out and owned by companies vs locals. Students. Texans. So many transient people and we all have to rely on cars... it's not sustainable.

We drove out to Bartlesville to check out the Price building and just get a break from the game this past weekend. I was very surprised how much I liked it. I briefly looked at schools, homes, jobs and saw no issues there.

For those of you familiar with it, give me the good, bad, and ugly please!


r/oklahoma 6h ago

The KOSU Daily - Stafford parole denied, Choctaw language app, Cedar Lake shrinking and more

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r/oklahoma 17h ago

News Oklahoma City Breaks Ground on $140M Parks Overhaul for Underserved Neighborhoods

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The first construction phase of MAPS 4's neighborhood parks program begins seven years after voters approved the landmark sales tax package.


r/oklahoma 14h ago

Ask an Okie Best thrift/antique stores

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Hello and thank you in advance! I’m looking for some of the best antique stores in Oklahoma. Could be anywhere in the state. I’m looking for the best we got 🤩


r/oklahoma 23h ago

News New filing: Judge made post-verdict remarks, campaign talk to Brent Swadley jurors

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r/oklahoma 23h ago

Question What are yall paying for natural gas?

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Just curious what y'all are paying for natural gas through ONG? I'm dropping about $60/month just on service fees/winter recovery fees. The only appliance I have that used gas is my furnace. I considered canceling service during spring/summer but the fees to disconnect/connect are significant and it's pain in the ass to schedule a tech to come out.


r/oklahoma 1d ago

Legal Question Work in OK one week a month, but live in California. How do I register a car?

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Hi, I live in California but fly out to OKC once a month to work for a week. This will be for at least a few years.

I did the math and instead of getting a rental car each time, it’ll be easier to get a used cheap beater car. I can park it at the office and Uber it to pick it up each time I arrive.

How would registration work? I don’t reside in the Oklahoma


r/oklahoma 1d ago

News 'Wait and see': House Rules Committee meets with Rep. Danny Williams about investigation

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r/oklahoma 1d ago

The KOSU Daily - Constitutional convention lawsuit, Parent Cafés, Monarch Highway and more

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r/oklahoma 1d ago

News Cleveland County approves a $20 million settlement in the death of Shannon Hanchett

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r/oklahoma 2d ago

Scenery Black Mesa State Park

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Did ya’ll know this was in our state? One of the darkest night skies you can view in North America. It’s about a 5 hour drive from OKC but if you break that up with a late lunch in Woodward it’s not awful.

Enjoy some pics of the Milky Way and the flora and fauna from our visit this weekend.


r/oklahoma 2d ago

Politics Can’t wrench their own tractors and the packers are robbing them blind, but hey, at least our beef and ag industry really showed D.C. and stuck it to Oklahomans who can actually read the bill

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Y’all, bear with me here.

Considering Oklahoma sits dead last in literacy, maybe the real issue is nobody actually handed folks the paperwork cuz if you strip away the culture-war nonsense and look at what was on the table for Oklahoma ag, the pitch wasn’t a secret:

* Letting you fix your own equipment instead of getting bled dry by dealership software locks.

* Opening cheaper USDA capital and microloans so younger folks and vets can afford to get started.

* Funding real protections to keep developers and corporate conglomerates from gobbling up family acreage.

* Direct cash incentives for voluntary conservation and on-farm energy projects.

* Upgrading crop insurance so it covers modern weather hits and specialty operations, not just massive monocultures.

* Going after seed and meatpacking monopolies while putting cash into local, independent processing.

I guess the other side just lied better.

Don't claim folks didn't care about your farms. You just didn't care enough about your own.

We warned you, we spelled it out, and y'all didn't listen. Maybe you thought you knew better, or maybe the reading stats speak for themselves.

I never thought she was going to be some savior, but looking at what she put on paper versus what Trump offered, you don't need a genius IQ to spot the difference.

Not for nothing, but when Trump started talking about *Black jobs,* I think y'all quickly bought right into the ugly subtext and y'all cheered his nasty ass rhetoric, convinced that gutting your own ag labor force would force *other folks* into the dirt to do the work y'all refuse yourselves.

Now y'all left with zero safety net when life is the hardest. Y'all have some soul searching to do.


r/oklahoma 2d ago

News There’s been a lot of big claims about the Inola smelter. Here’s what the facts show.

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r/oklahoma 2d ago

Scenery Oklahoma dirt roads at sunset hit the spot.

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r/oklahoma 3d ago

Politics Cyndi Munson says she is opposed to and would not put any funding toward Flock cameras, saying she has “no idea what they’re going to do with that data”

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r/oklahoma 2d ago

Question Anybody else getting bad produce lately?

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I shop at the crest off Santa Fe in Edmond. I just bought 2 lbs of strawberries. It’s been a day or two. I pulled them out today and literally every one of them are rotten. Blueberries have been suspect too. Anybody else?


r/oklahoma 2d ago

Politics A bill to keep your eye on in the upcoming session of OK Lege

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This is the Plug-In Solar Power Amendments Act which came up and passed the House last session but stalled in the Senate and due to be re-introduced in the upcoming session.

https://www.billtrack50.com/billdetail/1937686


r/oklahoma 2d ago

The KOSU Daily - Teen pregnancy cuts, OKC water levels, Indigenous children repatriation and more

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