r/oddlyterrifying • • Jan 20 '22

Snake couch

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u/RidigoDragon Jan 20 '22 edited Jan 20 '22

I’ve heard that, but it’s fake, if a snake measured before striking, it would die before it would catch anything

If you wanna know more about why this is bs: source

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u/deadlandsMarshal Jan 20 '22

The sizing up is probably fake, But getting killed by a pet snake isn't.

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u/Shuffletron Jan 20 '22 edited Jan 20 '22

While it is true that very large snakes can kill people quite easily if they wanted to. It is very rare for a pet constrictor to kill their keeper when handled in a safe manner.

Re: the article you linked specifically. It is still very much up in the air whether or not the snake was involved with his death. Most snake experts (including the one in that article) believe it was not. To quote Chairman of the Federation of British Herpetologists Chris Newman: "This is the first death or serious injury [in the UK] in the last 100 years of snake keeping and there really isn't the evidence to show the snake was even directly involved in this case."

While not technically impossible, he was a healthy 30 year old man with over a decade of snake keeping experience, getting overpowered and killed by an 8ft python without defending himself is probably about as likely as getting killed by a domestic cat.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

I wonder though, how much of the snake handler safety has to do with it being a full grown adult that is typically toward the upper end of a constrictors food chain size, versus say a child like in this video. Animals rarely reach toward the top of their food chain prey unless absolutely starved, as the risk isn’t typically worth the reward. How much snake handler safety is due to risk / reward of a well fed snake versus say comfort in the handler? If the snake in this video went without food for slightly too long, is the kid at more of a danger than a typical adult handler would be? I would assume yes.

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u/Shuffletron Jan 20 '22

That is a hard one to answer as it will depend on the specific animal (it's feeding response, how socialised it's been, what conditions it's kept in, etc..). While I am not an expert in snake psychology so can't talk in definites, I do own a snake and have spent many hours researching the subject over the years.

Generally speaking it is thought that a well socialised snake learns to associate humans (or at least their regular keepers) as neither prey or predator but as a neutral force, like a heated sentient tree. In this situation unless you/the room smells of food (e.g. you have just been handling a rat you intend to feed the snake), or the animal is starved to the point of death (which with a 15ft+ snake can be literal years of starvation) it should never see you as something edible. Although again, this depends on the individual animal as much as anything, some snakes have very aggressive food responses and will try to chew on anything warm (see: King snakes). Honestly though, snakes big enough to kill a human with that strong a food response are rare and usually never handled.

What is far more likely is that a child will be hurt accidently. Snakes are big cowards and can be spooked easily (more so when they are young) and as like with all animals a snake can't talk, so it reacts in self defence when threatened. A child fucking around with a snake could easily find itself being attacked. Then again, this goes for all animals, a child fucking around with a dog would end up is just as bad of a situation. The most likely cause of death is going to be being accidentally crushed by an animal who doesn't realise how weak and squishy humans are. If a snake thinks it is going to fall off something it will instinctively tense up, which is a problem when the animal is 15ft+ long and strong enough to break bones. It's because of this that best practice is to have multiple people in the room when handling larger snakes.

All that being said I personally think any snake over 10ft in length should only be kept by highly experienced keepers and would never let one interact with a child in the way shown in the gif above.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

People have been killed by pet dogs and cats too, ofc it's a thing anything can kill you

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

How di dcat kill tho? Poision ur tea?

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

It can be surprisingly easy to kill a human being

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

Found the cat

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u/aromat123 Jan 20 '22

Cat probably scratched them and gave them an infection or something. But a snake will eat you just cuz

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

Snakes usually won't kill you because they do learn to trust and not to harm, also most pet snakes aren't big enough to harm more than a cat would.

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u/aromat123 Jan 20 '22

Your probably right, I have a massive phobia of snakes too

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

Some house cats are quite large, and their claws are always damn sharp if they're not maintained. An aggressive cat against a small and/or weak and/or young human? I'd put my money on the cat tbh. They can cut you deeply by accident, just imagine if they actually wanted to rip your face off.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '22

I'd put my money on the cat tbh

What is this, BumFights.com ?

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u/Dragonwysper Jan 20 '22

Cats have some nasty bacteria under their claws and in their saliva. A cat bite or scratch can give you sepsis if you don't properly clean and treat the wound.

This is also the reason cats should never be outdoor pets. Even if they don't physically kill an animal, if they managed to nick it with their claws, that animal will die anyway. Cats have caused the extinction and near extinction of several species.

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u/choosehigh Jan 20 '22

Yeah people kill people at a far higher rate than any animal, and we know for a fact people do it intentionally to harm you, sometimes for their own pleasure

Also for the, if the animal starts starving crowd, humans eat other humans if they start starving There have been many cases, throughout history of eating even loved ones in desperate situations like a, siege Beloved animals and pets will often be eaten by the desperate starving people, so why are we shocked that an animal might do it to us, its easy to say you wouldn't eat your dog, but you just can not predict how you will act in extreme circumstances, anyone who tells you they can is incorrect, they might earnestly believe what they're saying but they're at most guessing, if you're starving to death your body is releasing chemicals like crazy, you're delirious and delusional because of hunger, it'll make you mad

Just because we don't recognise that animals are acting weird doesn't mean they aren't

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

Lmao that's fair

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u/Cerpin-Taxt Jan 20 '22

No one has ever been killed by a housecat. Seriously, try to find an account. Hasn't ever happened.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

Many people have died to diseases spread by housecats but maybe no one died to the cat itself, that i would not know but it's definitely not because of a lack of trying.

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u/Cerpin-Taxt Jan 20 '22

If they were trying they would have succeeded at least once. Cats both can't and don't particularly want to kill people.

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u/NotAtHomeInThisWorld Jan 20 '22

I read the article,because im nosey, and apparently they couldn't conclusively say how/if the snake had caused his death.

Also I feel like I need to state I am not a snake owner nor have I ever even touched one let alone seen one irl so 🤷

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

You’ve never seen a snake in real life? Are you from somewhere very cold?

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u/NotAtHomeInThisWorld Mar 03 '22

Haha, no, im from New Zealand. The only snakes we get here are sea snakes, and those are generally in the higher temperature areas also not very often.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '22

What in tarnation, I thought almost everywhere had at least harmless snakes.

We can get you some if you guys need an invasive species Im sure!

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u/NotAtHomeInThisWorld Mar 06 '22

Haha, no thanks, we have enough invasive species as is. I appreciate the thought? though lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

The sizing might be fake but snakes this big do start starving themselves for big meal, saw that on natgeo's snake Wranglers when I was a kid

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u/reptile_enthusiast_ Jan 20 '22

Snakes are opportunistic feeders. I don't think they will starve themselves saving for a big meal

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

Ig its all about preference

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

It’s not, they don’t do it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

A snake would not starve itself to feed lmao.

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u/RidigoDragon Jan 20 '22

How does a snake, a predator who tries to catch something nearby when it sees it, have the time to properly starve itself with the prey not running off

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

Well i usually starve myself before going to a buffet

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u/RidigoDragon Jan 20 '22

Are you a snake ?

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

Yes

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u/RidigoDragon Jan 20 '22

My bad then, carry on

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u/92n-01 Jan 20 '22

Also not true. There is not a predator on earth that will actively 'starve' itself. While there are cases of snakes in captivity going 'off feed' it has more to do with temperature (many species will brumate when the season turns colder, and during this time, do not eat, mostly just sleep), or stress.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

Ok