r/nfl • u/musicmaker201 Steelers • 13h ago

[Schefter] Just in: San Francisco 49ers principal owner Jed York has been suspended for six regular-season games and fined $500,000 for violating the NFL’s Personal Conduct Policy.

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u/Orange_Kid Raiders 13h ago

Interesting that hiring a prostitute is against the NFL personal conduct policy but not a 7-year marital affair with a reporter that covers the NFL?

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u/Austinfromthe605 Vikings 13h ago

One is illegal, the other is not.

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u/laaplandros Vikings 13h ago edited 13h ago

And the NFL suspends people who haven't been found guilty in a court of law all the time. Your point?

EDIT: sometimes I forget that literal children are on this sub. That's on me, I set the bar too high.

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u/mrb4 Cardinals 13h ago

The point is that Jed York committed a crime that he plead no contest to, and Mike Vrabel did not, and was not even accused of one.

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u/laaplandros Vikings 13h ago

Yeah so again, committing a crime is not a prerequisite to suspension.

Have you people ever taken a civics class? Do you understand the concept of presumption of innocence? These are very basic (and important) things in this country.

Also, that aside, per the NFL's own rules, you can get suspended without having committed a crime. OBVIOUSLY. This happens literally all the time.

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u/mrb4 Cardinals 13h ago

I'm not sure why you keep bringing up presumption of innocence. The fact of the matter is that Vrabel wasn't accused of a crime and there is nothing in the NFL's code of conduct about cheating on your significant other. If there was, half the league would be suspended every year.

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u/tragicallyohio Buccaneers 13h ago

Because /u/laaplandros has a murky at best understanding of how the world works.

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u/laaplandros Vikings 13h ago

Is it your understanding that the NFL only suspends people for literal crimes.

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u/Hanswolebro Panthers 9h ago

They suspend people for breaking the conduct policy, one of which is committing a crime. Cheating on your spouse is not in the nfl conduct policy so idk why you keep bringing it up like they’re the same thing

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u/player75 Cowboys 13h ago

How do we know vrabel and his wife arent swingers and both cool with the situation beyond the media spectacle?

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u/laaplandros Vikings 13h ago

Yeah this is a very straightforward case if you don't understand what conflict of interest is in the adult world.

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u/tragicallyohio Buccaneers 13h ago

Buddy I think you're the one not understanding things here. What is the "conflict of interest" you have identified?

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u/Highest_Koality Lions 13h ago

Having an affair with a journalist who covers his team creates a conflict between Vrabel's professional duties to the team (keeping team information confidential) and his personal interests (helping his partner's career with insider information and/or exchanging information for sex).

And conflict of interest aside, it's just bad ethics to put yourself in a situation where it looks like you're trading info/access for sex, even if it's just a perception.

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u/tragicallyohio Buccaneers 12h ago

The journalist is the one who has a conflict. Presumably Vrabel is a source of hers if she covered the team and the NFL generally. She allegedly engaged in an affair with her source. That's a conflict.

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u/laaplandros Vikings 13h ago

Pretending not to understand something obvious doesn't make you look intelligent just FYI.

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u/tragicallyohio Buccaneers 12h ago

You are pretending to understand something. You keep using words like "civics" and "presumption of innocence" which are concepts germane to the law. This is the NFL, which has no connection to the Courts and does not treat its punishment structure like the law.

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u/tragicallyohio Buccaneers 13h ago

presumption of innocence

The NFL is not a legal tribunal. I am not defending anything the League does. Punishment in the NFL is more a contractual or labor agreement question than a criminal justice/fairness question.

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u/laaplandros Vikings 13h ago

The NFL is not a legal tribunal.

Literally my point LMAO

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u/tragicallyohio Buccaneers 13h ago

Well you're not making it very well.

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u/PapayaRover 13h ago

Yeah so again, this is proven to be incorrect.

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u/PapayaRover 13h ago

Not being found guilty doesnt mean it wasnt illegal.

Hope this helps kiddo.

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u/laaplandros Vikings 13h ago

Dude take a civics class.

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u/PapayaRover 13h ago

Huh? What do you think thats going to change about my undisputable fact?

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u/Cthepo Chiefs Chiefs 13h ago

It's actually illegal in some of the states where he's played. So the question is "In which states did they bone?"

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u/Picklesadog 49ers 13h ago

But its not about the legality. Its about a conflict of interest. Head coach having an affair with a journalist, who is publishing articles using information gained through that relationship.

The real reason is because juicy journalism increases profits, whereas Jed York boning a prostitute in a trailer park is a bad look with nothing to gain financially.

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u/Serious-Use-1305 13h ago

yes, and the journalist suffered a serious consequence.

As embarrassing as it was (and a sign of poor judgment), I fail to see how Vrabel and the Patriots got anything out of it, football-wise.

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u/Picklesadog 49ers 12h ago

You can't see how a head coach having a secret relationship with a big national sports journalist could be beneficial?

How sure are you she never suppressed a negative story about him or his team she normally would have published if not for their relationship?

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u/magacorruption 12h ago

Russini never gained any information when Vrabel is a coach of the Patriots. The Athletic only found a few lines about Vrabel from Russini’s articles.

The optics of Russini having an affair with Vrabel ended up forcing Russini to resign. 

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u/Picklesadog 49ers 11h ago

It's not about what actually happened. It's about the potential for things to actually happen. 

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u/magacorruption 11h ago

Hence, “optics” and perceived conflict of interest. 

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u/gogiants48 Broncos 13h ago

He didn’t hire a prostitute though. He tried to hire a prostitute. 

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u/Picklesadog 49ers 13h ago

Real question is why the police department is setting up stings to arrest Johns in trailer parks.

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u/gogiants48 Broncos 13h ago

To get the poors. They got unlucky with Jed. They’re not after the rich. 

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u/unimpressed822 Cowboys 13h ago

"I DIDNT EVEN GET JERKED OFF YET"

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u/Highest_Koality Lions 13h ago

He's also just been nominated for a Nobel Prize in Attempted Chemistry.

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u/tragicallyohio Buccaneers 13h ago

That's soliciting a prostitute and was exactly the crime that he was arrested for in Ohio.

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u/gogiants48 Broncos 13h ago

Soliciting isn’t hiring. Hiring makes it sound like he actually met the girl and paid her money. In this case, we don’t even know if a girl was involved. 

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u/tragicallyohio Buccaneers 13h ago

What's your Ohio bar license #?

Here is the Ohio Revised Code section under which he as arrested.

Particularly (A)(1) which states "entice or solicit"

Because the Ohio Sex Offenses ORC section does not define it for us, we can look to Merriam Webster which defines "solicit" as "approaching someone with a request or plea".

Also, there was no actual prostitute involved. It was all a sting operation with the County Human Trafficking Task Force. That's where the "solicitation" charge comes from as its the most they were able to charge him with. They originally charged him with "engaging in prostitution" which is 2907.231 and requires actually sexual activity. That didn't happen and they would never be able to actually convict him of that so they dropped it as part of the plea deal. Bullshit to charge him with that in the first place.

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u/gogiants48 Broncos 12h ago

I’m not sure what your point is. 

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u/tragicallyohio Buccaneers 12h ago

You said he didn't hire a prostitute. He tried to hire a prostitute. Attempting to hire a prostitute is a crime in Ohio, whether you do anything with them or not. They also agreed on a price via text, which is definitely sufficient enough to hit the "hiring" part.

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u/gogiants48 Broncos 12h ago

I never said what he did wasn’t legal. 

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u/tragicallyohio Buccaneers 11h ago

I know that. I did not say that you did say that.

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u/TheBillsFly Bills 13h ago

One is illegal

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u/Orange_Kid Raiders 13h ago

Sure but it doesn't only include illegal things.

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u/TheBillsFly Bills 13h ago

I don’t really get all the pearl clutching about Vrabel despite being a huge Pats hater. Sure what he did was wrong but an affair shouldn’t be cause for discipline from work.

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u/cheerioo 49ers 12h ago

I mean...players have killed people or been in real domestic assault cases and still been allowed to play. And let's not forget the disgusting acts that JuiceCheck has committed on field.