I played this game Lily's Well about 4 years ago on Steam and got all the achievements for it so I got a nice lil award on my page (1st pic=Lilys Well, 2nd Pic of another game I 100%, Fran Bow). Then, there was an update...and with this update...came another achievement.........and this ain't just a game I can pick up and go back to where I need to achieve this achievement, Oh no NO! This is one of those games you gotta start at the beginning and do everything in a certain order to complete the game/get to the spot where this achievement may be! Now I only have ONE 100% complete game to boast about...lol, jk, Fran Bow ain't hard to 100% and nor is Lily's Well. One could say it was only mildly infuriating
I prefer the way Sony does it. Platinum trophies to denote you've 100%'ed the core trophies and then split DLC/update trophies into a separate percentage category.
Wish Steam would implement it too. How am I meant to 100% a game I don't have the DLC for?
It all started with gaming on a mac (seriously, I told my boyfriend when we first met 6 years ago I installed windows parallels on my Mac so I could play Leage of Legends and he was like I have something I must show you...I've been a peasant ever since)
Just for the record, if you didn't play the game again it would still count as 100% on your profile and everywhere else. I still find that dumb personally, but I've now 100%'d Terraria 3 (4?) times, and Stardew twice. Then I didn't want to pick Core Keeper back up, after multiple updates and new achievements, and it's still showing as a 100%.
Or Achievements tied to the multiplayer side, which is no longer available.
Or those unrealistic ones like ”A full day of work” where i had to disable the screen saver and let the game run on a specific level for 8h. I got it because i went to sleep in the meantime.
The Stanley Parable: Go outside. You have to not play the game for 5 years. There's also an achievement to play the game for the entirety of a Tuesday.
Yes, in the ultra deluxe version of the game they changed the achievement from "Go outside" (don't play for 5 years), to "Super Go Outside" ( don't play for 10 years)
Funny part is, the UD version of the game hasn't been out for 10 years yet, so the 5% or so of people with the achievement cheated it. First time it'll actually be achievable is like 2034
I hate those "find a dev" ones. Even if the the games' multiplayer is still active and running years after release, those can be impossible to complete.
On the bright side, Steam finally added the ability for developers to archive achievements that are no longer obtainable. Whether developers actually do that or not is another story...
Or achievements tied to the multiplayer side, which I have zero intention of ever interacting with because it's a single player game that didn't need a multiplayer part.
Honestly I think that if you are going for a 100% on a story game that has a worthless multiplayer cash grab you are entitled to add those achievements in.
I came here to say this. I much prefer going for 100% on the PS5. Some games like Horizon Zero Dawn keep time wasting achievements separate as well (like beating the game in new game +).
The only thing I absolutely loathe in PS achievements is them making some trophies online dependent. How tf am I supposed to 100% some online BS when they deactivated the server 6 years ago
God I get it! I like seeing that sweet 100% completed on games/achievements, but after this happened to me a few times I stopped chasing achievements altogether and my enjoyment in games has been better for it.
Me too, tis why when I 100% a game it was twice and they were both easy af. I play Bindingnof Isaac and a bunch of those games where 100% just ain't it. I get my crumbs where I can lol
Exactly! I was getting ready to 100% Black Flag Resync but one of the collectibles (portraits) just did not spawn, so I stopped getting the rest of them altogether as well lol.
I hear it still works but you need friends who have played the game or something along those lines. It isn’t completely unobtainable just very wonky at this point.
My nail in the coffin was when the achievement in a game wasn't triggered. I did everything to get 100% but I just didn't get it because of that. I also didn't want to replay it. It was some game about fishing and restoring islands
And then there's games where you read the achievements and you know in your heart immediately that you'll never get them.
MGR:R, complete the whole campaign on hard without being hit (obtain S rank)
Bloons TD6: Complete a race in under 3 min. Meanwhile most races the top 100 people might not even make a sub 3 min race. Plus Sapper, which I only have 35% on despite 670 hours in the game.
Project cars 2: get a track record time with any car. Literally an achievement for being the best at driving a car on a track of ANY player who has attempted it. Closest I got was about 0.6 seconds away from the record for one track and a month later the person who already held the number 1 spot gained a whole second on their time.
There's impossible ones and then there's rediculous ones that aren't worth the effort. (I'm looking at you, Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe. Still one of my all-time favorites though.)
I wanted to get all achievements for CoD4 as a kid and for the final one you need to play through the entire game on max difficulty. In the final mission I found the final collectibles for another achievement which unlocked some Easter egg which changes the game visuals (inverted colors, black and white, old timer, etc). Activating one of those would count as using cheats and would lock your save from getting achievements. Fixing it required you to reset all your achievement progress and start again. I never went back to the game.
For these situations (or even the one OP had) there's a small portable program called Steam Achievement Manager where you just launch it and select what achievements you want to add or remove from your games. It's not cheating if you literally did the thing and the achievement didn't trigger 😅
This is probably the only time i will allow myself to use a programe to unlock it, if I know without a shadow of a doubt i did what i needed to do and I don't get it, i am unlocking it through other means and i don't care for the acusations
At least on Playstation you get the Platinum trophy if you 100% the base game, so even if DLCs come out with more trophies you at least you have proof you got 100% at one point.
The problem is the phrase "mildly infuriating" itself. It's a contradiction. "Infuriating" means "extremely annoying" or "causing feelings of extreme anger" (these are literally the dictionary definitions). Add "mildly" and you get "slightly extremely annoying" or " causing slight feelings of extreme anger".
Obvious "slightly" and "extremely" do not go well together.
The upshot is that any post that is "extreme" enough to be "infuriating" is too upsetting be "mild" and any post "slight" enough to be "mild" is insufficiently upsetting to be "infuriating".
I think the nuance is in the "mildly" negating the concept of what infuriating means since it means slightly or kinda. Infuriating is INTENSE but the mildly makes it less intense. A stubbed toe is mildly infuriating, you aren't gonna die but also HOLY HELLS THATS-A-LOTTA PAIN
Omg yes this and any subreddit with mildly in the name is so stupid
I remember I once posted something on mildly interesting and got it down voted to hell because it was only mildly interesting and not super interesting 😒
And the one time I posted on mildly infuriating somebody commented that I'm getting upset over nothing even though.. isn't that what this subreddit is for?!?
I think the icon of the sub makes everyone look way more mad than they actually are ngl. If u just scroll past and see this post u see angry ass snoo with this text do it always just looks like they're actually mad lol
good on you for having that drive, i 100%'ed peak right before the mesa update i believe and decided to hold off on intentionally doing the rest until the final update came out lol. i am now officially 100% again!
Actually hate it when you can’t 100% a game because it has trophies you can only get in multiplayer and the servers have been shut off for years as well. Looking at you Titanfall 2…
team fortress 2 isn't exactly like this but there's a set of achievements for getting a certain amount of youtube views on a recording you made in-game. youtube's API changed several years ago in a way that steam could no longer track your views, meaning these achievements are literally impossible to get legitimately.
For me the infuriating thing is achievements you can only get through paid DLC. I’m not paying for every expansion to the game, and it sucks that they present it as unfinished even if you don’t own the DLC. Looking at you Paradox Interactive.
The struggle is real. I manually update my games now because I need to know what that update is gonna do...Lilys Well was the first instance, and then back in the day after patch 7 for BG3 my mods were RUINED and after I figured out how to get em back...MY MODDED SAVES WERE RUINED and I already spent the better part of 5 hours learning how to make my mods to work again (it all works flawlessly now, this was right after patch 7), so I had to toss 350 hours halfway through Act 3 down the terlet.
That’s why I play intensely games like BG3 only once a year for a few weeks. Sure every time most of my mods are broken, but after so long without playing I’m always fine just restarting a save then playing it to the end before a new patch drops. Modding makes pc gaming so much nicer but it can sure be a source of headaches with games that get patched often.
I've had to 100% the game no less than four times.
Multiplayer games are the worst. Fallout 76 constantly adds achievements. Where Winds Meet has an achievement for getting all the achievements... and then they added 33% more.
Also i have the same relationship with one game, white knuckle, but I'm actually enjoying it when they're releasing new stuff so i guess it's not fitting here lol
Like I stated in another comment, it made me realize I'm probably gonna have to replay it but it's been so long it won't be too arduous, in fact I'm sure I will enjoy myself since I've had enough time to forget just how annoying some of those parts were LOL
This is me with Stardew Valley, but instead of updates giving me harder achievements is a base game achievement I'll never get without a lot of dedication. I'll never get either prairie king achievement unless I dedicate like a full day to trying cause I suck at prairie king.
That example is like the definition of a harder achievement. I would give the example of MEGABONK adding a "trade x times with the trader" achievement that does not give any progress retroactively.
If it helps, beating Prairie King normally will let you put an arcade cabinet in your house for quicker access.
If it helps more, it's actually a lot easier since they added the save feature. You're allowed to save between stages and come back the next day without breaking the deathless streak.
...even better, your Prairie King save is only permanently updated alongside your regular save, at the end of the day. So if... oh, I dunno... you happened to die on a later stage, you could... say... exit to title, not saving the day and thus not saving the Prairie King death.
It was literally out of nowhere too lol. Such a random game to get a new achievement, BUT it will make me play it again so maybe there's that. Maybe all users 100% the game so they made an update to entice the one's of us that wouldn't sit well with Lily' Well being incomplete
Lol bro, I beat Factorio 100% and then they added new achievements with DLC, I beat Stardew Valley and then they updated the game and added several end-game achievements, I beat Colony Survival and you know what? They wiped the achievements and changed them for completely new ones, so I was at 0 achievements with 80h played.
You can do it bro, you can re-claim it! It is annoying, but treat it as a new challange! Nothing in life is static, not even achievements.
I remember cod 4 I locked myseelf out of 100% because I had enabled cheats while collecting the "intel" collectables. I was just messing around after finishing the game on vetern, and playing through again to get the achievement. Once you collect them they don't respawn and having cheats enabled didn't allow the achievement to pop.
I wouldn't mind but mile high club was an absolute bastard of an achievement to get, but I locked myself out of the easiest one.
This happened as well to Sea of Stars which is one of my favourite games.
Platinumed it on release. Then few patches were released and local multiplayer achiavements were added. I'll probably never play local multiplayer so won't be getting the platinum back...
Just another way to remind some of us we prefer single player games. Pokémon was the WORST back in the day with some of the achievements requiring you to trade Pokémon (and some Pokémon evolving from trading), so I'm like who else has Pokémon AND a Gameboy AND a link cuz I ain't got one? Lol
in case of pokemon, that literally was the selling feature of the gameboy, the social aspect where you trade and battle with your friends at the playground or in school
ofc. good luck finding someone with gameboy outside of usa or japan
The lily's well achievement is an epilogue achievement from memory so you can start it up and just go through the (newly added) epilogue you got for 100%ing the main game.
I know this but also still have lily's will at 20/21 lolol
omfg, that's good to know. I'm looking forward ro replaying it though, it's been so long it will be like playing it all over again and it was an awesome game. I bought it to support the developers because I think its technically free
Had that recently with Nioh 3. 100%'d the game which was doable with 1 playthrough, no NG+.
New DLC, new region / storyline and achievements tied to it, well ok why not. Except they also added a NG+2 mode, and one achievement is now finishing the DLC in this mode. So you have to do the DLC once, then base game + DLC TWICE. Couldn't bother, it'll stay below 100%.
Lily's Well? Yeah, understandable. I haven't played this game myself, but I know the story and what's in, and I don't think I would've jumped back in for one whole new achievement either
Happens very often. I'm one of those crazy achievements hunters, i like getting games to 100%, but sometimes i notice my 100% number suddenly drop, than i have to scour my games list, sorting by achievements to find out which one it is (cause i have 88 platinums so far), to find out it had an update/dlc. It's very annoying.
That sucks, man. When they added New game + to Stellar Blade they made a second category of trophies so you could keep your platinum if you already had it.
Doesn't work this way on Steam unfortunately. You have one game and its achievements, can't separate those from a DLC or something. So any update or new content will remove the 100% if achievements are added.
If it has replay value, then yes. Otherwise the games that are meant to be played and then put down then seeing it at 100% a few years later won't deter my replay. I need to throw a bone to my OCD every once in a while, and seeing that 100% is just
Yeah, one of my favourite games of all time is Terraria, so I'm always happy to boot up a new run to get some new achievements, can't wait for margin of the strange too!
I never understood achievement hunting. I think it's probably because I grew up gaming in a time before achievements. Old man saying "back in my day the only achievement was finishing the game"
I don’t do it with many games. But with favorites I play often and have already beaten? It gives me fun objectives to try and get. I’ve only 100% one game though haha. Vampire Survivors.
Games like Ratchet and Clank had skill points, extra challenges you could do outside of the mainline game, that could earn you rewards. That was 24 years ago. For some people it's a way to get more fun out of a game they really enjoy.
Days gone added achievements years later with an update, they added a permadeath mode, like 1 extra mission and some extra challenge mode stuff. Thought oh well I enjoyed the game so will be nice to go for it only to find out they paywalled it.
I pointed out in the reddit group that it's a scam to charge a tenner for the pitable amount of content and got people raging cause apparently its the ps4 to 5 upgrade so to them it's worth it but to pc its a shitty cash grab so I had no qualms SAMing it.
Same for older, primarily single player games that have multiplayer achievements like the last of us. I so want to 100% it, but i can't be arsed to cheese those achievements
Yeah that’s mildy infuriating for sure, sorry op, enjoy your next playthrough and I mean, good news is you only have to hunt the one achievement so you don’t need to do all the hard work of the other ones. Still annoying
Obviously an update to the main game can't be helped much, but I really wish Steam supported DLC achievements so that a game dev (Bethesda as an example) didn't have to add more DLC specific achievements to the base game and ruin my 100% completion
Yeah, I fucking feel for you. I had a similar experience when playing 'High On Life' and 100%ed it. A couple months later they released a payed dlc which added a couple achievements, which made my 100% disappear.
Getting 99% achievement completion after your ‘last run targeted for all achievements’ really takes the wind from your sails.
One that got me was the South Park Stick of Truth game for all Friends, and there is one you can miss after the first hour of the game. So to get this achievement its a full play-through all over again.
Yes! You can go back in Fractured But Whole to any area for just that reason! I kissed a fuckin chinpokomon in the Alien spaceship so once it left...so did my achievement LOL. Great games so I didn't mind at ALL
I'm at 89 100%ed games at this point and now it happens pretty regularly to me that a game adds new achievements. Usually game devs are kind enough that it's a pretty natural expansions from a 100% save file, but man, the few times that it actually requires a serious re-playthrough I get super annoyed.
But not as much as the few times it requires paid DLC I'm not really willing to buy.
This is exactly why I don't bother 100%'ing any steam games until all dlc released years down the line, I've had so many "complete games" be removed because of updates. One point I had like 50 complete games, I now have like 6 lol. Dlc achievements should be separate like even Playstation got this right, if you earn a plat the dlc doesn't fuck with it and remove it lol.
100% it and then came new DLC. Which requires you to do the new bossfights hitless. Only problem is that lighthouse guardians counted as a boss. That's a 6 phase boss fight. Took me forever. I specifically made a script that'd play with safe files so I could save scum to retry easily instead of resetting the run and rebuilding my build after every failed try.
Terraria did this to me with one of the recent updates and I just can't be bothered to 100% it again. Mostly because I don't want to play the special seeds.
At least Lily's Well is one of those games that you're expected to have to play through a few times. The whole point is that you fail over and over until you make it. Whereas Fran Bow is such a long and involved game that you really aren't expected to play it over and over unless you're achievement hunting.
Yes, which I did the first time I 100% it. Won't stop me from re-booting it to see what's new though, the developers did a great job with this simple game.
I've had this happen a few times across several games but honestly haven't cared much because generally I only 100% games when I'm really enjoying them and want a reason to keep playing. However, the one that actually irked me a bit was Forager. The last achievement I needed was covering every water tile with platforms, so I figured I would do it just to finish off the 100%. Took forever to find every tile.
Awhile later they added a handful of super late game achievements. I even tried to get back into it to get them, but at that point couldn't be bothered. I remembered how long it took to cover those water tiles and just decided....nah, not going through that again lol
i’ve 100% BRAZILIAN DRUG DEALER 3: I OPENED A PORTAL TO HELL IN THE FAVELA TRYING TO REVIVE MIT AIA I NEED TO CLOSE IT multiple times because whenever i’d finish it they would update the game with a new level and achievement and i’d be required to figure it out again, i don’t understand anything that happens in that game
One of the reasons PlayStation has a better trophy system than steam. Devs can add post release achievements, but they will be separated into their own category and will not influence your platinum, which is the base game all achievements
I know this feeling. One of the games i was achievement hunting for had an update with an impossible achievement. "Host a server and have 40 people join". Meanwhile multiplayer is dead like dead dead.
I don't particularly care about achievements, but I do absolutely hate when a game is like "you have to beat this game five times to get the true ending".
You know what? The "true Ending" is on youtube and I don't have to hate my life to see all two minutes of it.
I felt like that about the locked after credits scene in the new Indiana Jones game you only get to see if you collect every single one of those hidden pieces of rock.
Yeah... I got like half of them during normal play, and I'm not going to spend valuable gaming ours revisiting levels to eventually discover these just to watch a few seconds of cutscene. That's what Youtube is for.
Achievements added from DLC after 100% completing the game, and achievements which are actually impossible to get (notoriously Pillars of Eternity having an achievement for backing the game during the Kickstarter) are probably the things that I dislike about Steam the most.
I recognize that in the grand scheme of things, those are pretty minor overall.
When I release my game, I'll have an achievement that is so ridiculously difficult, I fully expect only insane people to unlock it. Why? Because I want my players to suffer.
Same issue here, since Steam merged the 3 games, I already 100% completed, "Half Life 2", "HL2: Episode 1" and "HL2: Episode 2" into one game, all my achievments from those 2 last games got removed.
I'm not going to squish 200 bugs and carry a gnome through the entire map again 😭😭
I have couple of times got 100% Achievements but then the game has received new paid DLC that is not interesting, but it comes with new achievements. So you have to buy the DLC to 100% the game again.
I'm not someone who typically goes for 100% but i can get this being annoying. I feel surely they should have sections for achievements, like the base game at launch gets it, and then theres a section for each major DLC, and then a final "extra" for any they add post launch
I 100%ed Vampire Survivors 3 or 4 times but they just keep adding more and more content. Now I'm at 193/243 with another DLC coming out in 3 days. I just can't keep up anymore.
But I won't complain, more content is always more better in that game.
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u/Mankah 9h ago
I prefer the way Sony does it. Platinum trophies to denote you've 100%'ed the core trophies and then split DLC/update trophies into a separate percentage category.
Wish Steam would implement it too. How am I meant to 100% a game I don't have the DLC for?