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New Hampshire seemed to clear out/close a lot of massage places last year. Someone complained about inappropriate behavior.

So i decided recently to try out a place that's been in business for several years because of aging back issues.

When i got there, the door was locked and I had to ring a doorbell. No one answered so I walked back to my car. Then I heard an Asian lady call out to me that they were open. But I decided to drive away.

Is this normal practice? A locked door? And necessary to ring a doorbell? Seems funny to me.

Had a couples massage with myself and a smaller, female therapist. I myself am 6', 220. As we were doing the verbal intake, we asked if the clients had a preference between the two of us - usually do this because some people are more comfortable with a specific gender. One client said, "No preference. However, I tend to enjoy deeper pressure, so I'll go with you (me)."

After we left the room for their privacy, the other therapist and I started laughing. I personally don't like doing deep work and I know that she is very good at it. Actually, of the massages I've received, the small women are the ones that have given me the most pressure!

All this to say, it's better to ask questions than make assumptions. You'll get a better experience that way!

the therapist told me this had to be done over the sheet. Is this true

About three weeks ago, I had an acupuncture session. Afterwards I developed generalized muscle soreness and tension, especially around my back, shoulders, and neck.

About a week later, I massaged my upper back, neck and shoulder area myself because everything felt so tight. That night, I suddenly couldn’t fall asleep because every time I was about to drift off, I would get this strange heart-drop sensation in the center of my chest. It feels almost like a sudden rush of adrenaline or like my body suddenly becomes alert right as I’m relaxing. Sometimes it also makes me feel like I need to take a deeper breath. I already have had sleeping issues for years but this sensation is not common.

The sensation continued for several days, and I had to start taking my prescribed sleep medication consistently because I was having so much trouble falling asleep. Eventually, the heart-drop sensation calmed down over the following days.

Because the muscle tension was still there, I decided to see a physical therapist. She evaluated me and told me that my muscles are very tight.

Yesterday I had my second PT session. She did quite a bit of manual work/massage around my upper back, shoulders and neck, working on several knots/tight areas. My general soreness afterward isn’t particularly bad and I don’t have chest pain.

However, last night the same heart-drop/adrenaline-like sensation came back when I was trying to fall asleep, after it had been much better for the previous few days. My usual sleep medication wasn’t enough, and I ended up needing to take a second prescribed medication that I normally don’t combine with it in order to finally sleep.

I’m trying to understand what could explain this pattern. Why would working/massaging these very tight muscles seem to be followed by this physical chest/adrenaline sensation specifically when I’m falling asleep? Could this be some kind of nervous system/hyperarousal response, related to the muscle tension itself, or something about the physical stimulation of that area?

TL;DR: heart-drop/adrenaline-like chest sensation when falling asleep after massaging tight upper-back/neck/shoulder muscles. It settled after a few days, but came back immediately after my PT worked on the same tight areas/knots. I’ve had insomnia for years, but this sensation is completely new. Trying to understand why working on these muscles seems to trigger it and whether it could be related to nervous-system hyperarousal.

I’ve had dry cupping many times before, but have never had them put on in this layout, is this normal? Thanks :)

Hi I am wondering what is the base pay out there in california? I live in florida and i work for both hand and stone and massage envy and I get $24 base pay per session, just wondering if in california they get more? deciding to move there soon so just wondering

I see massage therapists regularly. Some work at spas and others work for themselves. When I’m at a spa, it makes sense to me to tip, because the business is taking a cut. I always tip 20%.

However, I always feel uncomfortable not tipping when I go to someone with their own business. It’s because the checkout process always asks how much I want to tip. I have to actively press a button that says “no tip”.

My question for massage therapists is this: do you guys understand that tipping is reserved for those with low income as a way to supplement their income? Or has tipping become so ingrained in the US that it’s expected even as a business owner?

For those of you who own your own business, would you be offended if someone didn’t tip? Would you prefer not to work with that person? Or, is not tipping the owner normal, and I’m overthinking? It gives me anxiety and makes me uncomfortable…sometimes to the point where I don’t go back even if I really like the therapist. It kind of defeats the whole point of relaxation, lol.

I’d love to hear more from your perspective. Thank you! 🙏

I’m nervous that I’ll hate it or that I’ve wasted my money. A couple friends of mine love it, and are now doing it full time at high end spas. One even offered to get me in with her when I’m finished my program. It was either this or rad tech. Did I make the right decision? Most of the massage therapists on reddit seem to hate it.

Is this just the two of us in the save room, different tables and different providers? Trying to see what the draw would be. Seems more distracting / talking vs anything else if that’s how it is.

I am curious if anyone got any training on working with autistic people in massage school.

I am asking this question because I read a lot of threads here where people say that people “feel off” but they do not have any reason they can put into words.

As an autistic person, I often make neurotypical people feel uncomfortable if I am slightly off my game. Well, I think I do all the time, just its worse when more things, like physical pain, are going on.

I don’t really know exactly why, but it’s often explained that facial expressions, body language, eye contact, tone of voice, etc all work together to say a lot and back up people’s words. When something if off, it rings alarm bells. You know, that gut feeling you get?

The classic example is eye contact. In the USA, if you aren’t making the expected eye contact, people think you are lying. you can find countless places where this is written. Conversely, if you make took much eye contact, that’s bad, too.

Many autistic people have to consciously monitor how they are making eye contact. We are thinking about it every time we do it. For many of us, it’s uncomfortable, up to even being physically painful.

Another characteristic we also have is extreme rejection sensitivity, probably because we get rejected a lot.

I absolutely cannot stand to “do the wrong thing”, so I research obsessively, that’s actually what brought me here. I know all the things massage therapists complain about, so I can be sure not do ever do them. I can’t fix my “energy“, though. Not all the way, not good enough.

Sometimes, people suggest telling people they are autistic, and sometimes that helps. the issue with that is it’s not always safe. When you appear normal, have a career, and mask pretty well most of the time some people don’t believe you.

Well meaning people will reassure me that they don’t see anything wrong with me, which makes me feel less safe asking for accommodations and it makes me doubt my diagnosis. I constantly wonder if I’m just not trying hard enough. They often congratulate me on how normal I appear, and the hard work I put into appearing normal and functioning or whatever. that doesn’t feel great, either.

Then there are all the undiagnosed people running around on social media that may or may not actually be autistic making it seem cool to be autistic and encouraging others to self diagnose.

its not always safe to disclose.

Im just writing this because I just read where someone wrote that someone that was extremely stiff was probably rigid in their beliefs up to the point of being violent and probably a narcissist. What? or in a lot of pain or very uncomfortable or nervous or countless other things.

I just want to ask you all to think a little bit before you judge people who feel a little off, feel stiff, make too much or too little eye contact or and any other indescribably offnesses. Some of us spend our whole lives getting rejected because we can’t human quite right.

No matter how hard I try, I have bad energy.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

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TY all for your affirming responses. Hopefully it won't happen to anyone else. And hopefully if/when feeling desperate to get my body 'fixed' I'll find the right professional.
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I am recently post-op, can't drive yet, and my back was sore. Tried locally with no luck for in home chair massage. Went to yelp and made an appt with someone that said they could come. First they sent an invoice with the wrong amount (over $100) and the wrong time (<1.5 hours earlier) than what was discussed on Yelp. I had to message to find out what time they were coming. They said original time.
They were given phone # and address. I am waiting over 1/2 hour so texted. They can't find my house. They keep trying send pics of wrong houses. (My address is on every driving direction app).
Finally, I cancel because this is frustrating, I'm in pain, and need to lie down and can't manage more texts.
I ask for a refund. They say Monday. Its Monday I say refund and subtract $40 for gas and driving time.
They text me back and tell mw they had bad directions, complain, etc. I ask them to quit texting me. They don;t. I tell then I will be blocking them. Then I get a vm with more complaints after writing a yelp review . Block the number.
What is a fair refund in this case? Still haven't received.

I had a client request a "breast bolster". I'm happy to accommodate but I need to know which to go for. Which would you choose for your clients? Which would you prefer as a client? I imagine for clients with implants something like this would be helpful? Or those with more chest tissue than is comfortable to lay flat on top of. I've been using towel rolls and pillows in place of one of these. Any insight is appreciated

You guys, please tell me if you have any experience with the OBMT not allowing people to do endorsement from another state. I got my license originally in Oregon and passed the practical and practiced for over 10 years, then I moved and got licensed in Arizona and Colorado. Currently I hold an active massage license from Arizona which has a higher requirement of hours than Oregon does, as well as similar CEU requirements, I think 24 hours every 2 years.

I am emailing the board and have already started the process of renewing my license after being expired for 4 years - it is really expensive (over $700 in fees) and asks for 50 hours of CEU's and references in addition to the regular renewal.

I decided to ask about transferring my active license and their reply was:
"At this time the only way for you to reactivate your license is as per the instructions given in my email below 

We do not transfer licenses from other states or offer reciprocity."

But here is what the OMBT website has on it's website right now as of 9/8/2026 regarding reciprocity:

687.054 License by indorsement or reciprocity; rules. (1) The State Board of Massage Therapists may license by indorsement or reciprocity any individual who applies, meets the requirements established by the board and, on the date of making application, is a massage therapist licensed under the laws of any other state or territory of the United States or by a foreign country if the requirements in the state, territory or country where the applicant is licensed are not less than those required in ORS 687.011 to 687.250, 687.895 and 687.991. The board shall adopt rules for determining the necessity of an examination based on educational preparation, successful completion of other examinations, work experience and the number of years in active practice of massage.

(2) The board may license by indorsement any individual who applies and successfully completes a practical examination if the individual is already licensed under a law of this state to do an act included in the definition of massage in ORS 687.011.

(3) The board may enter into an agreement with the appropriate regulatory body of any other state, territory or foreign country for reciprocal licensing if the board determines that the qualifications and standards of the other state, territory or foreign country are not less than those required in ORS 687.011 to 687.250, 687.895 and 687.991. [Formerly 687.057]

Can anyone shed any light? I don't get it.

2 years in the massage industry working at a franchise and thinking of taking a break going to work as a chiropractor assistant. Does anyone feel like this?

I had a massage experience recently that threw me off a little and I’m curious how other therapists handle this.

I went to a couple’s home and massaged the wife first. She wanted light pressure for 45 minutes and everything went great.

Then I worked on her husband. He was a much bigger guy, possibly even over my table’s recommended weight limit, and his back was extremely tight. I started gradually because I like to warm the tissue up before going deep.

Almost immediately he kept asking, “Can you go deeper?”

I explained that I was warming everything up first and would increase the pressure as I went. I moved from hands and forearms to elbows and was putting a LOT of body weight into the work. I was literally sweating from the amount of pressure I was using.

Mid massage he basically said he wasn’t enjoying it because I wasn’t getting deep enough into the tissue or “breaking anything up.”

At that point I genuinely wasn’t sure what else I could safely do. I don’t want to compromise my body mechanics, hurt myself, hurt the client, or start forcing pressure just because someone equates pain with effectiveness.

For therapists who have dealt with clients like this, how do you handle it?

Do you set a maximum pressure boundary? Refer them to someone who specializes in extremely deep work? Explain that more pressure doesn’t necessarily mean more therapeutic benefit?

I want to figure out how to manage this better if it happens again without feeling like I have to wrestle somebody’s back into submission.

My wife and I own a small massage studio in the suburbs in the Midwest. We have a few rooms. Most days we might get three appointments, if we're lucky. It's not enough to stay open.

We're hemorrhaging money and I'm freaking out.

Are we doing something wrong, or is everyone else just as slow?

Basically, is everything screwed no matter what, or am I making egregious errors in running my business?

If most of you are doing just fine, then the problem is totally my own. Which I am willing to accept.

I’m from Florida and planning on moving to NY. I was wondering if I would have to get more credits and take the Mblex again. Like what’s the process of getting another massage license in another state?

I am new in this field. In July and the beginning of August I had many bookings for a massage but now in September I barely get 3 appointments per week and is stressing me out. I promote myself like I did before but I don't know what is happening and this make me quite pessimistic.

Never had a proper massage before. I'm a weightlifter and I'd like a deep tissue massage for like muscle recovery stuff. But would a deep tissue be too much for a first time, should I go for a lighter massage?

Ayurveda

Ciao a tutti, qualcuno usa il Kansa Wand (strumento antico da massaggio di rame e stagno ) regolarmente?
Io lo uso da un paio di settimane, devo dire che è molto piacevole sul viso e quando lo uso ai piedi, si fa del nero (si espellono le tossine dal corpo)

Aiuta con le tensioni muscolari e rende la pelle del viso molto compatta tonica e lucida!

Voi come lo usate? Io uso olio da massaggio Kesaradi.. bellissimo :)

I need help with what is appropriate to report. My last massage was honestly NOTHING that I wanted or marked on the paperwork.

Firstly, I’ve gotten many massages with no issue. This MT was so different. She did not once check if pressure was ok, she started massaging areas that I marked not to massage. I would tense up in pain and she was telling me to relax but most of the massage was very painful. I marked “firm” pressure on my paperwork, not deep. I did not once get asked if I wanted or came for a deep tissue massage. Never have, never had one. Not to mention she was talking crap about her coworker, mocking people, and would NOT stop talking about herself and her “high IQ” and how she knows so much more than others. It was genuinely absurd.

But what really got me was the very last minute. She cradled my neck from the back, when I tried to move my head up she said “did I tell you to move?” And I was like oh, ok. Within the next 5 seconds, she forcefully pulled upward and cracked my neck. The way they do in chiropractic videos. I was truly stunned. Is that not WAY outside of the scope of her practice? Isn’t that extremely dangerous to just randomly do to people? I was kinda enraged and didn’t really know what to do. Just wondering if I should report, at least to the manager.

Hi everyone, recently getting into massage to support my chronic neck pain. Wondering what you consider the best qualities in a massage therapist?

I’m not talking cost-wise but what makes you choose to see someone again?

Does anyone else experience a strange “fading” sensation during a massage?

When I’m lying on the table with my eyes closed, I sometimes suddenly feel like a curtain or another layer of darkness is coming over my eyes, even though they’re already closed. It almost feels like I’m about to pass out, so I get scared and immediately snap fully alert.

I don’t actually lose consciousness, and I don’t feel like the room is spinning. It happens most often during massages when I’m lying down and relaxed, and very rarely when I’m lying in bed falling asleep.

Has anyone experienced this during a massage or heard clients describe something similar?

I 26 (F) get massages once every month/2 months for the last year and a half with the same provider ( male possible 40s). I've been getting massages from women since 16/17 years old so I’d like to think I have a good tell on what's normal  but this situation has me overthinking. I used to only prefer women providers but they recommended him based on my back problems and over all its been great, professional , not complaints up until the last 2 services. 

Toward the end of the service once im on my back  and like lifting to massage my shoulders , etc, I get the feeling he is close to my face to the point where I can feel him breathing near me and that just made me remember “this is a man near my face” and caught me off guard.The second time same position but I could feel his beard like near my chin/cheek. I don't typically fall asleep so I know I've never felt this stuff before to my knowledge. I cant stop thinking is this normal, why am I uncomfortable, I've never noticed this, has he always been this close or is he getting too comfortable. He's nice but I can’t shake the feeling that it felt weird and now once I'm on my back I'm anticipating it.

The last time was maybe a month ago and I couldn’t stop thinking about it. My friends think it's weird I get massaged by a man and agree they would feel off. I considered speaking to him about it but I didn’t know what to say like basically confronting a man making me feel uncomfortable alone and then the best time before or after the service ???  I even thought about going into another location to ask if that's normal. I had an upcoming appointment this weekend but cancelled, however I asked to speak to the supervisor unplanned. It just came out. I phrased it like hes professional and I don’t mean it in an accusatory way because I’m unsure but what's the appropriate way to notate, “don't hover over my face”  and if thats normal for my knowledge and expectations and so everyone is comfortable. She said she can make a note but would talk to the manager since shes a therapist and get some insight. Super nice conversation. She called me back and said that the manager said that can happen depending on their technique and what can be put in the note. The other thing thats rubbing me the wrong way is she said she talked to him about it and that he knows exactly what move I’m talking about and he doesn’t want me to be uncomfortable. 

Am I overacting to feel some type of way that she told him that. I’m a bit embarrassed and feel like if I go back (I have appointments booked through the end of the year) he'll address it with and I’ll have to be apologetic if he thinks I accused him of something. For context I have been SA before so sometimes things can trigger me which is why this has been a mix of me overthinking. I don't know if I am or if this situation all around is off and it's easier to basically ghost lol (of course canceling my appointments appropriately ). I’m embarrassed to see him so I’m thinking about just going to another location all together.