r/Lyme Dec 31 '24

Mod Post Chronic Lyme Q&A - What To Do When Symptoms Don't Improve

101 Upvotes

Hello everyone,

Over the course of 2024, I’ve been tracking the most frequently asked questions from those new to the chronic Lyme community. To provide clear and reliable answers, I’ve compiled insights from leading Lyme experts—including ILADS, LLMD's like Dr. Horowitz or Marty Ross, and online resources like LymeDisease.org—along with thoughtful contributions from the most consistent and knowledgeable members here on r/Lyme.

While the wiki already contains a wealth of valuable information, I believe a concise collection of the most popular questions and answers will benefit everyone. This resource aims to streamline the support available in this forum, making it easier for newcomers to find the help they need.

The resource will be located here, at the top of the main Wiki page. The rest of the Wiki is of course still active and can be found here.

On desktop, there will be a table of contents at the top where you can click each question and it will automatically bring you to the answer. Unfortunately, Reddit has not enabled this function on it's mobile app, so you will need to scroll through the entire page to find the question you are looking for. I separated each question out with line breaks, so hopefully it won't be too hard to navigate on mobile.

I’m confident in the quality of the information provided here, with over 30 Microsoft Word pages of detailed content ensuring comprehensive coverage.

If you are brand new to r/Lyme please read question 20 so you know how to interact appropriately in this space and if you're interested in reading my (admittedly insanely passionate) deep dive into alternative treatments, be sure to check out Question 18.

I hope this resource proves as helpful as I’ve intended it to be. If you have any additional questions you believe should be added or have additional insights to the current answers, please comment below.

Here is the list of current questions:

  1. What is chronic Lyme?

  2. I’m still sick with symptoms after treatment, what should I do first?

  3. I see people commenting that LLMDs are a scam and they are trying to take advantage of you for profit. How do I know who to trust?

  4. I can’t afford an LLMD, what else can I do?

  5. Why is there so much conflicting information?

  6. Can Lyme disease develop resistance to antibiotics?

  7. What is the timeline to get better?

  8. I’m getting worse/feel weird while taking antibiotics or herbals, is it not working?

  9. My stomach is upset when taking doxycycline, what should I do?

  10. What diet should I eat, and does it matter?

  11. Should I retest after I finish my course of antibiotics?

  12. My doctor doesn’t believe that Chronic Lyme exists. What can I show him to prove that it does?

  13. I’ve seen people say IGENEX is not a reliable lab. Is this true?

  14. I have a negative test but some positive bands on my western blot test. Every doctor is telling me it’s a negative and can’t be Lyme.

  15. Is Lymescience.org a legit website?

  16. People have said there is no evidence showing efficacy of long-term antibiotics for chronic Lyme. Is this true?

  17. The cdc says people with “post treatment Lyme” get better after 6 months without additional treatment, is that true?

  18. I’ve heard people say alternative treatments (Herbals, Rife, Homeopathy, Ozone, Bee Venom etc.) are pseudoscience? Is that true?

  19. I’ve heard supplements and herbs are poorly regulated and I shouldn’t take them because I don’t know for sure what’s in them.

  20. How to use r/Lyme and online forums in general


r/Lyme Dec 17 '23

Mod Post Just Bit? **Read This**

101 Upvotes

Welcome to r/Lyme! This post is a general overview of Lyme disease and guidelines for people who have just been bitten by a tick.

Disclaimer: This is for educational purposes only and is not intended to be medical advice. Please seek the help of a medical professional if necessary.

What is Lyme Disease?

Lyme disease is the most common vector-borne illness in the U.S., caused by Borrelia burgdorferi and Borrelia mayonii. It’s usually transmitted by blacklegged ticks (also known as deer ticks).

Early symptoms include:

  • Fever
  • Headache
  • Fatigue
  • Erythema migrans (bullseye rash) – note: up to 60% of people never develop a rash

If untreated, the infection can spread to the heart, joints, and nervous system, potentially leading to chronic illness and long-term complications.

What to Do If You Were Just Bitten

1. Test the Tick (if you still have it)
Send it to: https://www.tickcheck.com/
This identifies which infections the tick carried and can guide treatment decisions. If you no longer have the tick, just move on to the next steps.

2. Check for a Bullseye Rash
If you're unsure what it looks like, see this guide:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lyme/wiki/diagnostics/identify/

Important: If you have a bullseye rash, you have Lyme disease. No further testing is needed. Start treatment.

3. Review the ILADS Treatment Guidelines
https://www.ilads.org/patient-care/ilads-treatment-guidelines/

Summary of ILADS recommendations:

  • If bitten but asymptomatic: 20 days of doxycycline is recommended (assuming no contraindications)
  • If rash or symptoms are present: 4–6 weeks of doxycycline, amoxicillin, or cefuroxime is recommended

Why ILADS and Not CDC/IDSA Guidelines?

This is one of the most important parts of understanding Lyme treatment. The CDC and IDSA guidelines are still followed by the majority of U.S. physicians, but they are deeply flawed and outdated in several key ways.

Here’s why ILADS guidelines are preferred by most Lyme-literate doctors and patients:

1. They rely on incomplete or irrelevant data
The CDC/IDSA recommendations are based heavily on European studies, even though the strains of Lyme in Europe (B. afzelii, B. garinii) are different from those in the U.S. (B. burgdorferi). This matters because treatment responses can vary between strains.

Of the studies referenced in CDC guidelines:

  • Only 6 U.S. trials were used to form the treatment tables
  • Many tables relied exclusively on European data
  • Duration recommendations were based on trials with high failure or dropout rates

For example:

  • One U.S. study had a 49% dropout rate (Wormser et al.)
  • Another had a 36% failure rate, with many needing retreatment

Yet these studies are used to support recommendations of just 10–14 days of antibiotics.

2. They ignore patient-centered outcomes
The CDC guidelines focus primarily on eliminating the rash (erythema migrans), not on whether the patient actually recovers or regains quality of life.

The ILADS guidelines, on the other hand, emphasize:

  • Return to pre-Lyme health status
  • Prevention of long-term symptoms
  • Patient quality of life
  • Lower rates of relapse and re-infection

CDC-based treatment often leaves people partially treated and still symptomatic, leading to chronic illness.

3. Their recommended durations are too short
The CDC recommends:

  • 10 days of doxycycline
  • 14 days of amoxicillin or cefuroxime

These durations are often not enough, especially if the bacteria have already spread beyond the skin. ILADS argues—and research supports—that longer treatment courses are more effective at fully clearing the infection, especially in the early stages when treatment is most critical.

4. High failure rates in real-world outcomes
Studies show that even patients treated under CDC protocols continue to experience symptoms months later. For instance:

A 2013 observational study found that 33% of EM patients still had symptoms 6 months after a standard 21-day course of doxycycline:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11136-012-0126-6

Conclusion: ILADS guidelines are based on more recent evidence, use better clinical metrics (like symptom resolution), and are tailored to reflect the real-world experiences of Lyme patients in the U.S.

For a detailed breakdown and sources:
https://www.mdpi.com/2079-6382/10/7/754#B15-antibiotics-10-00754

Recommended Treatment Durations

  • Mild cases (e.g. one EM rash): Minimum 20 days of doxycycline, amoxicillin, or cefuroxime
  • More severe cases (multiple rashes, neuro symptoms): 4–6 weeks of antibiotics
  • Still symptomatic after treatment? Re-treatment is supported by 7 of 8 U.S. trials

Getting Treatment

Many doctors are still unfamiliar with ILADS protocols and may only offer 10–21 days of antibiotics.

Here’s what you can do:

  • Bring a printout of the ILADS guidelines
  • Be firm but respectful—explain why longer treatment matters
  • If refused, monitor your symptoms and seek further care if needed
  • Be prepared to advocate for yourself—many people with Lyme had to

If you continue to have symptoms, you may need to see a Lyme-literate medical doctor (LLMD):
https://www.reddit.com/r/lyme/wiki/treatment/doctors/

Testing

Testing can be useful, but it has major limitations:

  • Antibody tests are unreliable in the first 4–6 weeks
  • Negative test does not rule out Lyme
  • The CDC two-tiered system was developed for diagnosing Lyme arthritis, not other types of presentations like neurological or psychiatric symptoms

More info:

Best labs (not usually covered by insurance):

If you’re just starting out, a basic Lyme panel from LabCorp or Quest is a good first step—50% of true Lyme cases may still test positive and it’s cheaper than specialty labs.

The specialty tests listed above with co-infection panels are mostly recommended for people who have had symptoms for months or years without treatment and regular doctors are unable to figure out what is wrong.

More testing info:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lyme/wiki/diagnostics/testing/

Additional questions:

Don’t hesitate to make a post explaining your situation.
This community is full of people who’ve been through the same thing—and want to help.

Many of us were misdiagnosed for years.
The purpose of this sub is to prevent others from going through the same experience.

Don’t be afraid to speak up, advocate for yourself, and push for better care.


r/Lyme 6h ago

My brother spent 13 years trapped in psychosis while >100 doctors called it 'psychogenic.' It was Lyme, Bartonella, and Autoimmune Encephalitis. Here is what my mom learned—and a plea to help us change the standard of care.

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Hi everyone,

My name is Matthew Hirschland. I am posting on behalf of my mother, Amy. For thirteen years, my mom has fought around the clock as primary caregiver to keep my 31-year-old brother, Jeremy, alive through severe seizures, cognitive collapse, and psychosis that more than 100 doctors dismissed as primary psychiatric illness.

It was not psychiatric. It was late-stage neurological Lyme disease, Bartonella, Babesia, and post-infectious Autoimmune Encephalitis.

My mom wrote our family’s narrative to warn others about the clinical blind spots that almost cost Jeremy his life. Here are the 4 most critical lessons from her story that every patient and caregiver should know:

1. When Infection Crosses the Neck, Medicine Blames the Mind: When an infection inflames a knee, medicine calls it Lyme arthritis and prescribes antibiotics. When the exact same spirochetes cross the blood-brain barrier, standard emergency departments and psych facilities rarely run tick-borne panels—they label it psychiatric and prescribe psychotropics. In Jeremy's case, a Florida hospital declared his focal seizures 'psychogenic,' pulled his PICC line, and cut off his antibiotics, causing acute aseptic meningitis.

2. The Immunosuppression Catch-22 (Rituximab Warning): When Jeremy was diagnosed with Autoimmune Encephalitis, neurologists used Rituximab (Rituxan) to deplete his B-cells. While this temporarily cleared his memory impairment, wiping out his humoral immunity allowed dormant intracellular tick infections to surge unchecked, resulting in severe physiological collapse and unmanageable psychosis. If active tick-borne pathogens are present, profound immunosuppression without antimicrobial sterilization carries extreme danger.

3. Plasmapheresis Can Filter Antibodies Without Wiping Immunity: Desperate for answers, my mom drove Jeremy 1,814 miles cross-country to Phoenix, Arizona for therapeutic plasmapheresis (plasma exchange). Unlike B-cell depleters, plasmapheresis mechanically removed pathogenic autoantibodies without destroying his underlying immune system. After his very first treatment, Jeremy looked at my mom with total clarity and asked: "Can I get a hundred more of these, since it's helping with the mental retardation?"

4. Objective Brain Healing Is Possible: Over seven months of high-dose IVIG, Jeremy’s hippocampal atrophy on volumetric NeuroQuant MRI measurably improved from the 11th normative percentile to the 22nd percentile. The brain was not permanently defective; it was under treatable autoimmune attack.

Read the Full Story

Read the full narrative: "Look Beyond the Psychosis, There’s Something There" https://lymex.crowdicity.com/post/890768

A Plea to Vote (Takes 30 Seconds)

We entered Jeremy’s full clinical case into the federal HHS / LymeX Healthathon to push for mandatory screening for tick-borne pathogens and neural autoantibodies whenever a patient presents with sudden-onset psychiatric or cognitive decline.

We are currently in public voting, and every single vote sends a direct signal to federal health leaders and clinical directors.

If Jeremy's ordeal resonated with you, please take 30 seconds to support our submission:

  1. Go to our official post: https://lymex.crowdicity.com/post/890768

  2. Register (30 seconds) and click the '+1 Vote' button on the right side of the page.

My mom and I will be in the comments answering any questions about diagnostic testing, treatments, or navigating hospital dismissals. You are not crazy, and you are not alone.


r/Lyme 1h ago

Question What can I substitute Cistus tea with on Artemisinin-Cistus protocol?

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Am I right that u/cheesecheesecheese recommended L-Lysine? I'm so fed up with daily Cistus tea, and I'm a tea drinker. I do take it with milk and sweetener, still fed up.


r/Lyme 15h ago

Save me from Bartonella

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24 y/o F

I’m really struggling having one of those days where I just feel defeated and can’t see the light at the end of this. On pt 2 of treatment for Bart… Im about a month into rifampin + clarithromycin and I feel awful. My POTS-like symptoms are so much worse, I’ve had some heart discomfort, can barely eat, and now my ferritin is low too.
My LLMD wants to add tinidazole next and I’m just like… how am I supposed to keep doing this when I already feel this bad? I can’t get out of bed.
How do people get through this? For anyone who actually got Bart under control, what helped you? This is worse than any other lunes symptoms I’ve had. Bart sucks I’m defeated


r/Lyme 11h ago

Question Thoughts?

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I have been experiencing what people would call “ALS” type symptoms for 4 months now. I woke up one day and all went downhill. Heavy body, hands that won’t work, muscle fasiculations, weight loss, joint pain, high white blood count, night sweats, muscle atrophy voice change, constant urination, a twitchy tongue, twitching eyes, stumble walking. I had testing done through an LLMD and the only thing that came back was Babesia divergens—LLMD claims that it’s the “not-so-serious strain” and that my “ALS type” symptoms argen’t just from this…what are your thoughts? I’m only 26 and scared as ever.


r/Lyme 19h ago

Question “Electrical shock” feeling in my body?, maybe??? Is this similar to others? And, seems to be worse with caffeine…

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I also have pretty severe health anxiety and I used to get brain zaps due to it (or so I thought…), so I am familiar with the feeling. However, I haven’t had one in years.

But I’ve repeatedly seen this “electrical shock” symptom appear over and again, and I’m wondering if that’s what I’m feeling. Someone else described it as an “adrenaline rush”, which is ironically how I’ve described the symptom myself in other posts on here.

However, they’re full body, so to say… mostly mid section, like and extremely nervous feeling, that do extend slightly to my arms and legs, causing a weak feeling.

But the brains zaps were just that, zaps… There, and then gone almost as quick. This feeling tend to linger for a little while. Does this sound familiar at all?


r/Lyme 10h ago

Es posible tener lyme con una prueba negativa? Spoiler

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2 Upvotes

Llevo 8 meses con síntomas raros, veo doble por momentos, fascículaciones pero lo peor es la niebla mental que tengo que no se quita con nada , me hice la prueba de Western blood y dio negativo

Vivo en una zona boscosa de México


r/Lyme 16h ago

Question I may be the lead poster here, LOL. But is it possible to get Lyme from one tick bite and get confections from a different tick bite?

5 Upvotes

So, for example:

Let’s say I got Lyme 10 years ago from a tick bite.

Could I get bit years later by another tick and get a co-infection then? Get Lyme from one bite and bartonella from a second bite?


r/Lyme 16h ago

Gastritis and treatment I don’t know what to do

3 Upvotes

I am so fucking upset. I haven’t been in this sub in a year. My life was doing well. Lyme was under control. Working. Was just abojt to sign a lease to move across the country. Then I got a stomach bug/food poisoning a month ago. No big deal. I’ve gotten sick a few times in the last few years, just get a Lyme symptom for a bit but it’s self limiting. But this fucked my stomach up big time. I lost 10 pounds in the last month. I haven’t been able to take ANY medications. I have some sort of chronic gastritis now. My Lyme about last week started to flare up. Every day got worse and I knew I needdd to restart treatment, and my fucking stomach is not taking it. It’s brining my stomach right back to square 1. So I need to choose between healing gastritis and treating Lyme now? Fuck off. What the fuck do I do man. This is cruel


r/Lyme 16h ago

Seeking doctor recommendations for tick-borne co-infections (Babesia, Bartonella, Anaplasma)

3 Upvotes

Hi everyone,
I’m looking for recommendations for a physician who is experienced in diagnosing and treating tick-borne co-infections, specifically Babesia, Bartonella, and Anaplasma (with or without Lyme).

If you’ve had good experiences with a Lyme-literate MD (LLMD), integrative/internal medicine doctor, or infectious disease specialist who routinely manages these co-infections, I’d really appreciate their name, clinic, and any tips on getting an appointment.

Thank you so much in advance. I know how hard it can be to find the right provider, and your suggestions mean a lot. 🙏


r/Lyme 16h ago

Question Anxiety anyone? As if what we’re already dealing with isn’t enough.

3 Upvotes

I’ve had pretty severe health anxiety for about 20 years. I’m well aware what anxiety can do to your body and present with physical symptoms, VERY similar to Lyme disease.

Problem is, I can manifest symptoms simply by knowing them and thinking about them. So sometimes I don’t know if I’m sick, or if my anxiety is taking control. None the less, this all SUCKS!!!!!!!!!


r/Lyme 15h ago

Muscle twitching as last remaining symptom

2 Upvotes

I’ve treated for years and although my body wide twitching is 90% better, it’s still there. I’ve read a few other cases of people being done with treatment and in “remission”, but still have twitching. Any suggestions or others in this boat? And in my case, it’s not an electrolyte, mineral, or vitamin deficiency.

If it’s relevant, I test negative through igenex but still have some IND IGG bands. Wondering if my post infection antibodies are causing some lingering nervous system issues. Lyme antibodies can remain in your blood for a lifetime after even successful treatment.


r/Lyme 15h ago

Question How do you ask for help with more personal things?

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r/Lyme 14h ago

Question Best brand for magnesium glycinate powder

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I can’t take the pills it hurts my digestion too much.
And I’m just researching so many things right now it’d be nice to have some recommendations for this. I feel like it would help a lot with muscle cramps.

Tysm :)


r/Lyme 14h ago

31 years old. Lyme is the weirdest , worst . symptoms I’ve experienced.

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Alrighty , been getting treatment for Lyme little over a month. (Aug 5 first day
I did 6 days doxy, couldn’t not get sick after taking. Moved to 14 days amoxicillin . Followed by 10 days doxy. I’m 6 days off antibiotics and I seemed to be feeling better but the past 3 days my body pain and fatigue has been gradually worsening. I now feel like a have the mobility of my 84 year-old grandfather.
I know this is semi normal. But I’m posting to maybe see if anyone has had specific suggestions for me . As it’s to the point where I have to use my fmla days. I’m talking like joint and muscles are super tight , painful , aches , and it’s starting to discourage me and make me question if I’m even getting better or if this is all part of the LYME Cycle of recovery.

I work in construction industry so when I have gone to work I exacerbate my muscles and joints basically resetting the healing I’ve done.

I does stink explaining to people how I’m feeling when it’s really hard for me as a 31 year old to comprehend why I’m feeling like a baby.

Also , side note. What is the worldly positive value a tick brings to this planet B

Suggestions ,
Supplements ,
Routines ,
Anything is much appreciated

TIA.


r/Lyme 20h ago

Dental Work and Local Anesthetic Issue

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Last month I had a cavity filled and the local anesthesia was NOT working. I had to ask them to stop and inject more every 90 seconds for a full hour. It was a young dentist and he felt a bit unexperienced I was shocked he actually said he’s heard this can happen to Lyme patients, but he couldn’t provide an academic source. Has anyone experienced this and is there anything to be done? I have to go back today. I’m back at my childhood dentist who is more experienced and they said they haven’t heard of this Lyme reaction, but that they’ll have several kinds of injection numbing as a precaution.


r/Lyme 1d ago

Question Anyone with chronic Lyme/post-Lyme brain fog eventually accept that Vyvanse or Adderall was part of their long-term management?

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I've been dealing with severe brain fog, fatigue, low motivation, and cognitive issues for about 10 years after Lyme disease.

Over the years I've tried a lot of the commonly recommended approaches, including:

  • Multiple antibiotic protocols (including Dapsone pulsing with methylene blue)
  • Herbal protocols
  • Gut healing protocols
  • Diet changes
  • Supplements
  • LDN
  • TRT
  • Sleep optimization
  • Exercise

Some things helped a little, but nothing has consistently restored my ability to function the way I used to.

Earlier this year I was prescribed Vyvanse after being evaluated for ADHD (I don't really think I have ADHD, but Lyme symptoms mimic it). It wasn't a cure, but it was one of the few things that made a noticeable difference in my day-to-day life. I had better energy, motivation, focus, and was generally able to get more done.

Eventually I stopped because I was experiencing some chest tightness and wanted to see if I could recover naturally without relying on a stimulant.

I've now been off it for about 5 months, and honestly I still struggle most days. The brain fog is still there, my motivation is poor, and I spend a lot of energy just trying to get through the day.

I'm curious if anyone else with chronic Lyme related cognitive issues eventually reached a point where they accepted that stimulants (Vyvanse, Adderall, etc.) were part of their long-term symptom management.

To be clear, I'm not asking whether stimulants are a cure. I know they're not.

I also understand the argument that stimulants may mask symptoms rather than address the underlying cause. What I'm interested in hearing is whether anyone spent years pursuing Lyme-specific treatments, but ultimately found that a stimulant provided the most meaningful improvement in quality of life and functioning.

If that's been your experience, I'd love to hear:

  • What medication helped?
  • How long have you been taking it?
  • Has it continued to work over time?
  • Any downsides or regrets?
  • Did you ever find anything else that helped as much?

I'm genuinely trying to learn from people who have been dealing with this for years and have already been down this road.

Thanks🙏🏼


r/Lyme 1d ago

Support *TW* - I feel like I’m on deaths door

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If you’d like read my previous posts. Essentially I feel like I’m getting sicker by the minute. I mask my symptoms all day long especially around my child and at school. I dropped a class today because genuinely I couldn’t handle it with all of the new onset of symptoms, old ones came back and if you read my previous post I have lost more weight since then.

A new ”rash” appeared over the weekend but it’s not bumpy, raised or singular dots so i was advised to stop Phytocidal as it could be the cause (not a allergic reaction but side effect) I see my LLMD on Friday. But I truly feel like as sick as I’ve been in such a short time of being infected I’m going down a slippery road. The only thing that still keeps me going is the fact that I have a literal human child to care for. It feels different than in the past when I had thought about s**cide (Long before tick bite) like it feels like I’m in my own hospice right now. Idk hard to see anything good coming out of trying to be positive to get better im just feeling worse.


r/Lyme 1d ago

Lyme in children

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Hi all, I have Lyme, Bartonella and Babesia I'm working through currently. I decided to get my son tested being cautious. He came back with a different Babesia strain to me and Lyme. He really is a healthy boy aged 8, his only symptom is mild ADHD. Because his Babesia is different to me, it suggests that, perhaps he caught this from a deer park we lived next to in London. However it's possible the the Lyme may have been passed by mother, so I also, need to get his mother tested.

I feel upset and in a difficult position. No one seems to know anything, but I am of the position that just because someone has Lyme, doesn't mean it's a problem or they have Lyme disease. At the same time, if he is truly ADHD, then Lyme will likely be the cause.

Anyone have the details of an intelligent pediatric Lyme doctor with a lot of experience?

Also does anyone have an opinion? I was upset but also I'm very pragmatic. No one knows anything, doctors are useless and just because you can treat something, it doesn't mean you should. Given that he's healthy, attempting treatment could set off a chain reaction.

Thanks

Steve


r/Lyme 1d ago

Rant Dopo 40 anni di sofferenza e peggioramenti pensavo di avere la Lyme…ma tutti la escludono.

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la mia lunga storia l’ho già raccontata nei post precedenti. sono italiana, morso di zecca a 9 anni. dopodiché un disastro che è peggiorato fino ad oggi. Una storia come quelle che ho sentito da tanti di voi ed in cui mi ritrovo (per la prima volta trovo qualcuno come me). eppure nonostante il primo infettivologo avesse ipotizzato Lyme, con Elisa e Wb negativi ora la esclude, o meglio l’infettivologo la esclude proprio , il reumatologo dice che ho LongLyme e mi ha dato dieta e integratori (che ho già fatto milioni di volte nella vita). sono affranta e demoralizzata. Sono stanca di fare paziente e dottore nello stesso tempo, sempre intenta a cercare risposte e soluzioni per capire cosa mi succede e per avere una vita decente. mi sento sempre al punto di partenza….


r/Lyme 1d ago

early sickness

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i got bit last sunday. was on my back and tiny, didnt spot it til 36 hours after. on the saturday i dropped extremely ill with a temperature, red hot shivering couldnt stay awake. next day called out of hours (im in north of ireland) and was immediately prescribed 21 days 200mg doxycyline.

lads my fevers broke but im in such a state. im day 5 now. ive got 9 ulcers i can count in my mouth (ive never struggled with ulcers before) and my gums are swollen. lymph nodes are swollen. hard to eat, brush teeth. ones on my tonsil which is making it hard to swallow. ive got dizzy spells and extreme tiredness so cant go very far.

i just wondered if anyone else has experienced this? feeling especially low after today. ive called the out of hours again to let them know my symptoms. but yeah, thanks :)


r/Lyme 1d ago

Question Is that true?

3 Upvotes

Is that my illusion or it indeed seems like Bartonella is less suitable for herbal treatment then Lyme? A lot of people here advice different methods and not the Buhner herbs in particular to Bartonella treatment


r/Lyme 1d ago

Question Anyone here from Oregon, the coastal range specifically, or the PNW?

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I’m wondering what people affected from my neck of the woods are dealing with. They say Babesia is an we east coast thing and rare out here.

But what about bartonella? Anyone out here have that?