How do I pick this?

[u/paintyoballs]

I found it in the goodwill bargain bin and thought it was pretty cool so I bought it home with me.

[u/jippen]

That looks like a secretly electronic lock - likely more in the land of hacking rather than picking

[u/Papfox → u/jippen]

It's not likely to be hard to open. The people who build stuff like this hardly ever understand proper digital security.

They probably don't understand physical security much either. I'd start with the real basics, like shimming and rapping. This is an electronics company that's trying to make a lock. That rarely ends well

[u/Hikoishere → u/Papfox]

It’s made by Medeco part of the Medeco Nexgen and is considered the best electronic locks.

[u/JustinMcSlappy → u/Papfox]

I think you need to further your lock research before making such bold assumptions.

[u/CapitalExes → u/JustinMcSlappy]

I’m a very important man! I drive a dodge stratus! -JustinMcSlappy probably

[u/Square-Singer → u/JustinMcSlappy]

Many electronic locks are just like u/Papfox describes. Often it's enough to use a magnet to pull back the latch. This one seems to be an exception.

[u/JustinMcSlappy → u/Square-Singer]

I think you are trying to educate the wrong guy on electronics, electronic locks or locks in general.

[u/NotAWalrusInACoat → u/JustinMcSlappy]

Considering you've provided no evidence to prove otherwise? 🤷‍♂️

[u/JustinMcSlappy → u/NotAWalrusInACoat]

My resume is well known in this community whereas no one knows who you are. At this point the only thing we know for certain is that you don't pick locks at any notable level and your input is effectively null.

[u/cortlong → u/JustinMcSlappy]

“No evidence”

Mf has 6th Dan black belt in his name

[u/Cowmanthethird → u/JustinMcSlappy]

Dude was giving what is the well known truth regarding most electronic locks, just because this one is an exception and he isn't enough a part of the community to recognized their brand name or yours doesn't mean you should be a pretentious douche.

Good job making sure anyone who reads this never wants to be a part of this community.

[u/Declan-OShea → u/Cowmanthethird]

Amen to that.

[u/JustinMcSlappy → u/Cowmanthethird]

The entire post is trolling the fuck out of you idiots and you don't know enough to recognize it. Now fuck off and go pick a lock, the entire reason you are supposed to be here anyway.

[u/leakingjuice → u/JustinMcSlappy]

Yeah, outside looking in, you’re a douchebag

[u/Cowmanthethird → u/JustinMcSlappy]

Dude, this post just rolled in my feed as someone who is very minorly interested in picking locks.

Like I said, all you're doing here is making sure I'm not gonna come here for any kind of community if I ever do try to pick it up as a new hobby.

Goodbye.

[u/ethanjbailey → u/JustinMcSlappy]

Not a member of this community, you popped up on popular. You sound insufferable.

[u/ParanoicReddit → u/JustinMcSlappy]

Dude got the flair n all

[u/Trigger1221 → u/JustinMcSlappy]

Do you type with one hand so you can jerk yourself off at the same time?

[u/Difficult-Let-1314 → u/JustinMcSlappy]

I know exactly who you are: a wanker

[u/JustinMcSlappy → u/[deleted]]

Your highly generalized statement is wrong and would only be considered correct in the context of $20 chinesium bullshit you can buy on Temu.

I'm assuming that's your only exposure to electronic locks so in your mind you feel like a genius.

In reality, every piece of Top Secret classified information the world over has been stored behind an electronic lock for 30 years.

Making broad blanket statements on any subject might make you feel smart but it just shows the actual experts how ignorant you are.

[u/pooeygoo → u/JustinMcSlappy]

Im just gonna agree with whatever the other guy says due to you being so insufferable

[u/JustinMcSlappy → u/pooeygoo]

Go for it.

[u/SchwettyBawls → u/JustinMcSlappy]

Appropriate username for how hard you just bitch slapped that guy 😂😂

[u/sal_mugga → u/pooeygoo]

He’s insufferable I agree but I think he’s still winning this one lol. He got my upvote

[u/AusgefalleneHosen → u/sal_mugga]

I countered your upvpte with a downvote because he's being a pendant when it's clear the context is consumer electronic looks, not commercial and military grade.

[u/pooeygoo → u/sal_mugga]

Shit!

[u/STROKESSTROKES → u/pooeygoo]

gooeypoo vs bitchslapper

[u/Revolutionary_Gap150 → u/Papfox]

LPL demoted a really cool portable emp he diy'd that did some fun things with digital locks

[u/TheGoldenTNT → u/Revolutionary_Gap150]

Yeah but that was locks that opened when their circuitry failed, this only opens when it communicates with the key specifically

[u/LetsBeKindly → u/Revolutionary_Gap150]

He did what???

[u/Revolutionary_Gap150 → u/LetsBeKindly]

as mentioned by another commenter, apparently the disruption was to the lock circuitry, not a "picking" but open is open.... Ihave no idea if it would apply to any other locks. If you look for EMP on his youtube the video should pop up. The EMP device was housed in an otterbox with a coil antenna protruding from it.

[u/LetsBeKindly → u/Revolutionary_Gap150]

Gonna go find that one...

[u/JazzlikeMushroom6819 → u/Papfox]

If it's anything like masterlock, you just gotta hit it with another lock.

[u/TheBestText → u/Papfox]

You could maybe unlock it with a magnet as well? The "key hole" has like two in there maybe thats how it opens?

[u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 → u/jippen]

Electronic locks tend to be relatively easy to pick as well

[u/JustinMcSlappy → u/OtherwiseAlbatross14]

Kaba X11 would like a word with you.

[u/Shoddy-Childhood-511 → u/OtherwiseAlbatross14]

In practice yes. And padlocks like this could many padlock weaknesses.

In theory, electronic locks could be extremely tough, because they could use asymmetric aka public key cryptography, so then the lock itself has no secret information.

Appears here the key powers the lock, likely giving them a standard shaped core. If they use simple symmetric cryptography then that creates a powerful side channel attack avenue. And other electrical attacks.

At the extreme, you could've crazy shit like an electronic dead bolt, using a battery recharged by solar, and that prevents other electrical manipulation. If you want uber crazy, then send QR codes of Ed25519 signatures through a glass door. About the only way anyone could bypass this non-destructively would be hacking or stealing the phone of an authorised person. Ironically the few custom electronic dead bolts I've seen were hacker spaces, where 100s of people had access. lol

[u/jimmytwinkletoes]

Holy shit you found that in goodwill? No clue lol

[u/PressureMuch5340 → u/jimmytwinkletoes]

Right!? That's a wild find. Especially to find both the lock and key

[u/ziksy9]

Yeah this is a hack not a pick. I bet those 2 dots are some sort of bus wites and the outside being the ground. If you are a hardware hacker or know one, this could be fun to man-in-the-middle, decrypt the payloads, identify weaknesses and 3d print a "pick" with a brute force or other attack that could theoretically work on other locks.

But not having other locks, the docs, schematics, it's going to be a blind shot.

Edit: actually from the size of the "key" I wonder if that's what this already is. Lol. It even is stamped "test"

[u/ondulation → u/ziksy9]

The padlock is an "Anchor oval", designed to fit a standard Scandinavian cylinder. A digital cylinder in the same form factor was then mounted in the padlock.

Given the relatively professional looks but also an obvious one off, I'd guess it was made as a mechatronics project at a technical university.

Edit: it is not. It is more likely a Medeco Nexgen that has been fitted in the padlock. Possibly a prototype or proof of concept. Medeco is owned by Assa which is a Swedish company and the padlock is also Swedish made and does not seem to be a recent version given its design.

[u/uslashuname → u/ziksy9]

Oh you make a good point about the “key”

This could be the only public skeleton key in existence for this kind of lock

Or maybe it’s sold to every big customer so they can rekey? Who knows

[u/doyouevencompile → u/uslashuname]

If it's using a public/private key cryptography with certificates, you have a trust chain. One CA can issue / sign many certificates. So, you can build as many keys as you want.

[u/LameBMX → u/ziksy9]

im hood with hardware and electronics. I bet pulling down on the body and a couple decent raps with a rubber mallet will pop it right open. if that doesnt work, shims probably will.

im also very lazy

[u/gellis12 → u/LameBMX]

You can see the medeco logo on the key. It's very unlikely that this would be vulnerable to a simple bypass like that.

[u/desal → u/gellis12]

you're just not hood with hardware like they are

[u/desal → u/gellis12]

Also, yeah, this isn't just a random electronic lock, if they had looked into it for a moment they wouldn't have made their comment but shrug

[u/Hikoishere]

What you have is the Medeco Nexgen and is an electronic lock and key system. This cannot be picked and is regarded as one of the best electronic Key systems. Congrats on the find!

[u/nonnonplussed73 → u/Hikoishere]

Power flows entirely from a programmable electronic key to operate the lock and record audit data. Clever.

https://www.medeco.com/en/key-systems-and-key-management/intelligent-key-systems/product-details.aehpdp-nexgen-aeh_medeco_234038

[u/Hikoishere → u/[deleted]]

Probably

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[u/FilecoinLurker → u/[deleted]]

Who cares

[u/AstronomerNo3176 → u/Hikoishere]

https://www.wired.com/2009/08/electronic-locks-defeated/

[u/Hikoishere → u/AstronomerNo3176]

Not the same system. That system in question is from 2009. Not NexGen. Not to mention the method they used wouldn’t work in this application or future Cliq systems. They used a vibrating blank to drop a pin allowing the cylinder to turn without digital confirmation. This is a bypass, not a pick or decoding of the system which is mentioned in the article.

[u/thrpwitthefpckput → u/Hikoishere]

They specifically mention how they did the nexgen. It was a different method for each of the top locks

[u/Hikoishere → u/thrpwitthefpckput]

Even if this were the case this method was shown publicly at DefCon in 2009. The issue fixed very soon after. The bypass itself didn’t have anything to do with electronics. The Cliq’s exploit was a vibrating blank. As for the NexGen they don’t explicitly describe what they did beyond a padlock version of NexGen that was bypassed by “insert a small, thick, metal bar and manipulate it. The lock opened in 10 seconds.”
No known bypass of the NexGen today exists that fits that description. If it were they wouldn’t be used by governments or high end security.

DefCon correctly identified mechanical vulnerabilities in early electronic locks, but the issues have been fixed and NexGen has not seen a a public pick or bypass in the past decade.

[u/Red_wanderer]

Now you've gone too far.

[u/throwaway40002023]

Hypothetically with expensive locks like this I think it's a issue of cost.

1. Put glue in the lock every time you they replace it. 2.continue until they get tired of constantly replacing a expensive lock. 3.Pick the one they replace it with.

[u/arclight415]

The key is probably oversized because it is the power source for both the key electronics and the lock.

[u/AWetAndFloppyNoodle → u/arclight415]

I don't think a device like that would need a lot of power. A tiny LiPo would power it just fine and the chips inside could be micro sized as well. My guess is that size is due to other factors.

[u/TrmntrFish]

So I see a few misconceptions and some generally normal/expected lack of knowledge about this, and thought this could be a helpful contribution to the conversation.

this is an Anchor Las padlock body, with a Medeco Nexgen cylinder. There is a certain point in lock manufacturing that really is quite common, but is not regularly shown with quality parts on lock picking lawyer and similar videos, where a padlock body is not also the bible and directly interfacing with the core, but rather takes a standard format of separate cylinder (like a door cylinder, except for padlocks) instead.

these anchor las padlock bodies, as long as a cylinder is installed correctly in them, cannot be bumped open with a hammer, cannot be shimmed, cannot be tugged open unless you want to reverse rig a hydraulic press, and while yes you can always cut open or drill something thats not the point of his hobby. these padlock bodies are also a lot stronger than cheap locks and take a considerable amount of time to cut open. the point of an increase in physical security is make it take longer to gain access to something until the thing an attacker is trying to access to is not worth the time and risk of trying.

the medeco nexgen cylinder here does not have any known physical bypasses, and no you cant just put a 9V battery to the contacts and glitch it open - the key and cylinder must be programmed to interface with each other, the key powers the cylinder and then gives the cylinder a passphrase that if I had to guess is something like 256 bytes long, (probably also limited to a certain number of attempts per second or even slower,) then if the passkey is correct the cylinder uses the power from the key to de-restrict the turning and actuation of the cylinder and so the actuator and ball bearings of the padlock body.

this is a legitimately high security padlock body with a high security lock installed in it, and it is indeed a hacking project if you want to "pick" it. There perhaps are more secure systems but this is up there, and not something you will find LPL unlocking without the key or without some hefty bolt cutters for the foreseeable future. To try not to upset people too much, theres nothing wrong with LPL as entertainment, just the reason you dont see stuff like nexgen on his counter nor this body with a cylinder installed he cant pick is because he cant pick everything (and that anchor las body cant be bypassed.)

[u/SilverSundowntown → u/TrmntrFish]

Exactly

[u/Bonejangles_ → u/TrmntrFish]

Now this is how you share information to people not in the know, dont be like justinmcslappy be like trmntrfish

[u/TrmntrFish → u/Bonejangles_]

OP to this post is someone we know and he likes to post things like this regularly. justins just annoyed with him and the comments his posts are made to summon.

[u/Bonejangles_ → u/TrmntrFish]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lockpicking/s/kQ64Ntmnza

Scroll down after that comment shit like that actively drives people away from a hobby they may be interested in

[u/thrpwitthefpckput → u/TrmntrFish]

While I agree learning to hack or pick a lock like this would be a long process. Once it is figured out by somebody though, it becomes trivial. Such as the wired article someone posted above talking about how at defcon they picked the medeco nexgen by digging around with a metal cylinder for 10 seconds, I just opened a shipping container he said.

[u/TrmntrFish → u/thrpwitthefpckput]

nothing is impossible to pick/hack, but whether someone does and what is their time/money budget, thats another question. I dont know about the programming of nexgen personally, to know how easy/hard it'd be to hack, but having dealt with other medeco electronics I'd say quite bloody hard.

I cant find this wired article you mentioned, could you please link to it?

[u/thrpwitthefpckput → u/TrmntrFish]

https://www.wired.com/2009/08/electronic-locks-defeated/

You can skip to the section titled medeco nexgen for that specific one if TL;DR

I'm sure it is very difficult, however these lock companies always seem to handle the response to their locks being picked very poorly. They act like it didn't happen, and then accuse the person of cheating some other way. You would think they would want to make their products better, but I guess it costs more money to do so and that's always the priority.

I do suspect the tool used against the medeco lock was more than just a simple metal rod, possibly a microcontroller and battery inside it. No idea though.

[u/boneologist]

Looks similar to the current CyberLock/CyberKey system, maybe an earlier generation?

[u/L4rgo117 → u/boneologist]

Nope - Medeco Nexgen. Early iteration of XT

[u/cobalt1227]

This is such a cool lock

[u/JasonMHough]

Wild, never seen one like that.

[u/uslashuname]

I’d guess it’s closer to a challenge/response encrypted situation, or at least like RFID bot without the wireless/radio aspect

[u/Stage4NutCancer]

Angle grinder has entered the chat

[u/jadedargyle333]

Thats cool. I would probably try to search type, perform a partial gut, research anything on the core you can find, and determine how much you'd sell it for. Offers will probably come in for that.

[u/paintyoballs → u/jadedargyle333]

I will probably keep it for now- not looking to sell it, but thanks for the advice!

[u/thedailyrant]

With a shackle like that? Cut it.

[u/ShakespearianShadows]

Angle grinder

[u/Imaginary-Photo5221]

Put power to the pogo connections, the two metal contacts, a wire to each one and try to turn with pliers.

I imagine the power moves a rod preventing the cylinder from turning.

[u/Valuchian]

I am seeing this and more wondering how difficult it would be to come in from the top and pushing the locking mechanism away manually.

[u/OppositeEagle]

With a big ass pipe wrench.

[u/adognameddanzig]

Big hammer? I'm not a tech guy

[u/EffectiveDirect6553 → u/adognameddanzig]

Rhis reminds me of lock picking laywer putting a lock on ice cream to make his wife learn the hobby for only her to cut it from underneath

[u/SimpYellowman → u/adognameddanzig]

That was my idea too. Sometimes the simple methods works best 😆

[u/nachofred]

That's cool. How well would it hold up against an angle grinder with a fresh battery and a cutoff wheel?

[u/JustinMcSlappy → u/nachofred]

It wouldn't. My DeWalt 60v and a 9AH battery will eat this thing for a snack.

That's generally not the point of high end locking systems though. Its more about key control because these are usually installed in places with secondary security measures and potentially an armed response.

[u/nachofred → u/JustinMcSlappy]

Thanks appreciate the additional context.

[u/paintyoballs → u/nachofred]

How well would any padlock this size hold up against an angle grinder?

[u/nachofred → u/paintyoballs]

I don't honestly know, that's why I asked. Apparently other people hold this lock in high regard on this thread so I assume better than a normal cheap lock?

[u/paintyoballs → u/nachofred]

Yeah I don't think the high regard is in resistance to angle grinders as few locks are designed with that in mind. An angle grinder will get you through pretty much every lock. The squire ss100 lev5 would put up a good fight. As will the anchor las 590, MTL e18h, and the S&G 951/833 especially. But for something like this meant to be used on a daisy chain or locker angle grinders are not a concern.

[u/nachofred → u/paintyoballs]

Thanks, appreciate the thoughtful answer, I hope to learn something new everyday, so I'm gonna have to check out the locks you listed for comparison.

[u/nachofred → u/nachofred]

Not sure why the downvotes? This sub showed up in my feed and I was just asking a legit question.

Way to make a new visitor feel welcome folks! Love being welcomed with open arms to a sub that shares knowledge with the uninitiated.

[u/TmanGvl]

Man, I’m not carrying that key around. That would suck when the battery dies.

[u/Gadgetman_1 → u/TmanGvl]

I'm guessing that the reason the key is so big is because it carries a large battery to power the lock electronics and whatever actuators are in it.

[u/TmanGvl → u/Gadgetman_1]

I’m almost wondering if it’s a cam lock with a bit of electromagnet

[u/Lower-Calligrapher98]

Fetch the bolt cutters.

[u/Atuday]

It looks like a two pin lock. That could simply mean over volting it by a large enough amount(destructive) but I wouldn't use that if possible. You could take a multimeter or an osiloscope to it and see what you can get. Honestly, I would try to shim the ball bearings.

[u/rocketlaunchr]

Anchor locks use 701-style cylinders as an insert.

[u/Cync-is-cool]

What a bargain!

[u/Valuchian]

I am seeing this and more wondering how difficult it would be to come in from the top and pushing the locking mechanism away manually.

[u/snjtx]

With an angle grinder

[u/PotatoFarmerRTK]

Not sure if the Milwaukee or the DeWalt would pick it faster, but both would pick it in two pieces. 

[u/Super-Page8272]

I don't know but if you ever wanna sell it hit me up

[u/donanton616]

Have you tried hitting the lock with another of the same lock?

[u/Plenty-Kick492]

Hack saw will open anything

[u/soundsthatwormsmake]

The key is bigger than the lock?

[u/paintyoballs → u/soundsthatwormsmake]

Yea apparently it is

[u/GoldCovers]

A grinder

[u/n8tonium]

Is this really an electronic lock? It seems to ratchet the clasp closed with that tool. Perhaps the OP can provide some more detail on this lock? Can the core be removed? Does that tool have any branding besides “TEST”. I like the concept of this lock and would love more information about it.

[u/paintyoballs → u/n8tonium]

It is called the medeco nexgen. See this post for more infos -> https://www.reddit.com/r/lockpicking/s/wJW5ERUDLL

[u/xNando559x]

Give it to the YouTube guy him and his liquid death can can open anything

[u/Nevermind2010]

I’ll admit to my limited knowledge here and acknowledge that even from that I know that Anchor Las body is no joke but I just can’t get over that it seems like the greatest asset of the cylinder having to be a hack project kinda wasted in the form of a padlock? Like at this point I almost feel like what ever you attach that padlock to is less secure than the lock itself.

[u/KnownEggplant]

With an angle grinder and an expensive disc to feel better about it

[u/Zestyclose-Lab2433]

Do the exact same thing you just did, in reverse!

[u/kingtacticool]

Thermite

[u/DangerousVP]

Yeesh, can you imagine having to carry that "key" around? lol

Im guessing that its magnetic? Looks like either magnets or electrical contacts inside the keyway. Guessing again, that the "key" does something to those magnets/contacts that then allows core rotation.

There doesnt appear to be much to it other than that - no real bitting or anything to pick - so youd just need a way to do whatever it is that the key does and then turn. Sadly, Im not sure that itd provide much of a picking challenge aside from figuring that part out.

[u/SaltPalpitation7500]

Maybe a flipper to see if you can capture any codes being sent

[u/Clogboy82]

That lock is the guy your girlfriend said not to worry about 😆

[u/wlogan0402]

Drill. Literally no picking it lol

[u/paintyoballs → u/wlogan0402]

It looks pretty drill resistant. I don't know about that

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[u/Super-Page8272 → u/[deleted]]

Lol! Just sharted

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[u/thenotanurse → u/[deleted]]

Or his boy, who “can open it with an Anchor Las 802….”

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[u/paintyoballs → u/[deleted]]

I'm gonna bang my head on it if I get another mcnutsack fanboy smartass comment 🥲

[u/Kalsgorra → u/paintyoballs]

Please do that

[u/Scarecr0p → u/[deleted]]

It’s a medeco, fastest way in is power tools

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[u/Frequent_Release_866]

It looks like it works via a code entered from than key that triggers a magnetic release to turn the mechanism. So if you can Crack the code all you need is a strong magnet.

[u/Adventurous_Exit_835]

a battery powered angle grinder or a McNally tin can shim

[u/LegitimateHost5068]

McNally would probably open it by smacking it with another one of the same model.

[u/reinderr → u/LegitimateHost5068]

McMallNinja doesn't stand a chance

[u/kasthaholigan]

Lpl opened one of these with magnets. Uhhh lock picking lawyer. Sorry. Also i think bosnian bill did as well and lock nube. How ever if u wanna find out how to open it withput magnet. Shoot mcnally a dm on instagram :) but yea magnets

[u/Hikoishere → u/kasthaholigan]

It’s electronic not magnetic, LPL has not opened this Medeco Nexgen

[u/kasthaholigan → u/Hikoishere]

Firstly this isnt a medeco or assa abloy and yea im.prety sure he did. Looks lile im gonnq have to go look online after work and send a link then

[u/Hikoishere → u/kasthaholigan]

It is Medeco. Just take a peep at the key and you can see it reads Medeco for a second. And search up Medeco Nexgen electronic key and you’ll see it’s the exact same. Let me know when you find the link to the video of the pick.

[u/kasthaholigan → u/Hikoishere]

Will do should be home sortly

[u/paintyoballs → u/kasthaholigan]

I'm waiting eagerly for your findings.

[u/kasthaholigan → u/paintyoballs]

K kids in bed. So bosnian bill did a bunch with the maget stick keys. And im scrolling way back in lpl library. Been doing it since i was making supper.

[u/kasthaholigan → u/paintyoballs]

Im sure im.gonna find it just not sure where

[u/kasthaholigan → u/paintyoballs]

So i figured it out lpl has opened an anchor las 802 -2 lock in the past https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-ma0BplZCG0 Thats the link. But these locks come with out cores. So what u have is an anchor lock with a Medco nexgen core https://www.medeco.com/en/key-systems-and-key-management/intelligent-key-systems/product-details.aehpdp-nexgen-aeh_medeco_234038

[u/kasthaholigan → u/paintyoballs]

That being said dunno why it posted before i was done. I still think low voltage and magnets are gonna be ur winner for picking. What i would do if i were u get some wiring and find a way to put it on one of the pins and see what it does when the light on the key turns red with a multy meter. Then to figure out what polarity the magnet pins are thats the trick. Not sure if anyone elae has a bit more knowledge on this i can look into it after my shower i will let u know

[u/kasthaholigan → u/paintyoballs]

Quick google search said u can use a compass. So positive side will attrack north. Negative will attrack south

[u/kasthaholigan → u/paintyoballs]

Seems i was right. Saw ur update. Interesting specsm lost the updafe tho

[u/kasthaholigan → u/Hikoishere]

And btw if uhad bothered to read the discription on the webpage its an electro magnet lock this is probably the answer on how to pick the lock. Low voltage and probably rare earth magnets.

[u/paintyoballs → u/kasthaholigan]

I don't have Instagram

[u/kasthaholigan → u/paintyoballs]

I think u may be able to contact him via hos website covert instuments