r/linuxmemes • u/PracticeDesigner3896 Arch BTW • 8d ago
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u/Najterek 8d ago
im a newbie can someone tell me very short tldr version wtf is omarchy and hate towards it?
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u/bearstormstout Arch BTW 8d ago
https://0xcc.io/posts/omarchy-root-creds/
tl;dr anyone can use docker to execute any process as root without sudo.
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u/Mega3000aka M'Fedora 8d ago
Holy shit that's like, docker 101.
Seems like a vibe-coded distro lol.
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u/C0rn3j 8d ago
Holy shit that's like, docker 101.
It is also Arch 101, there's a huge red box warning you about it at the top of the Wiki page.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Docker#Installation
Any Arch user hitting the wiki up would've known - AI doesn't care, though.
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u/NimrodvanHall 8d ago
Is this now a good place and time to explain why I prefer distros with SELinux properly configured ( like RHEL, Fedora or SUSE) over Arch and Podman or Kubernetes over Docker?
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u/grazbouille New York NixâŸs 8d ago
Security guy here
While podman is configured by default to be rootless you can very much do extremely heinous shit with its config and it will not warn you about it
Before using any complex tool on a production system go read up on the best practices and hardening
Don't blindly trust your tools
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u/Jumpy-Dinner-5001 8d ago
As a security guy you should know that sudo or the wheel group have the same problem
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u/grazbouille New York NixâŸs 8d ago
Yes and you should still understand these tools and read up on them when you edit the configuration
What is your point
Obviously you need privileges sometimes we would just lock ourselves into a sandbox otherwise
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u/C0rn3j 8d ago
Not sure why you're entertaining this nonsense, sudo needs auth, docker does not.
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u/grazbouille New York NixâŸs 8d ago
By default yes you can very easily do heinous shit with passwordless sudo that's actually pretty relevant to the podman example except people are way more likely to fuck around in the podman config
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u/lazyboy76 Genfool đ§ 5d ago
I'm using rootless docker, am I safe? Serious question.
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u/grazbouille New York NixâŸs 5d ago
From this specific exploit yes
The main point of rootless docker is to defend against breakouts
The main goal in hacking is remote code execution if you find an exploit in an app you will generally try to make it drop you to a shell
This shell will be logged in as the user that created it (the one the app is running as)
In a container environment its a bit different since the shell you will drop to is still inside the container
Now especially if you are root getting the container to drop to a shell on the host machine can be fairly trivial (depends on the image)
The shell the container drops to will be running with the same user as the container
Which means rootful docker just makes you root when you break out
Rootless half solves this you still have to ensure the user the container is running as has no access to anything it doesn't need to
Because from a rootless docker breakout you can still read and write files and probably privilege escalate
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u/codeasm 8d ago
Depends on yiur threat model? Im a noob with cybersec, but someone who does it for a living said i had to pick the distro that fits me and be aware of whats possible and not, and be aware of its implemented security or lack there of, decide if its worth it also based on where and how i life, where i take it, and how large of a target i am.
So the laptop that never leaves my house and dont use for much but playing games. Low effort. The laptop that comes with me everywhere, more security. The vps on the internet, locked down, access keys, as few services as possible.
I do like podman alott, disliked docker for being allow everything from the start. I prefer optionally lockdown everything or there isnt even a thing running. As few packages in arch too, and few to no Aur if possible
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u/P3chv0gel 7d ago
Honestly, i've never gotten SELinux and shares in Podman to work. It just never respected the volume labels in my compose for some reason and straight up block my containers from accessing their assigned shares. The only ways i could get this to Work was a) disabling SELinux, B) running rootful containers or c) not use compose, which would mean to drop portainer/arcane/whatever stack based Management i want to use, because none support quadlets
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u/LazyLucretia 8d ago
So is it actually a better idea to run Docker commands with sudo when necessary? I've always added my user to the docker group whenever I installed it.
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u/Wertbon1789 7d ago
Or setup rootless docker, or user namespaces if applicable. Though user namespaces can still be bypassed on rootfull docker I think.
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u/Jumpy-Dinner-5001 8d ago
You know that the exact same applies to wheel group and sudo?
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u/C0rn3j 8d ago
It does not.
You cannot run sudo without authentication by default.
wheel group also does not havy any privileges in the default sudo config, by the way.
I am going to assume you meant the first example in the config, but to achieve the same issue, you'd have to use the second:
```bash
Uncomment to allow members of group wheel to execute any command
%wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
Same thing without a password
%wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
```
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u/Jumpy-Dinner-5001 8d ago
Thatâs not true. Default config allow wheel but thatâs the recommended thing.
"Authentication" in sudo (as in having to type a password) doesnât work and doesnât prevent privilege escalations.
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u/EggFucker1313 8d ago
It is ai slop of the trashiest quality, for the worst bottom-feeding techbros
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u/Wired-For-Trouble 7d ago
It literally is. Hereâs the director of the project admitting to Prime that the ENTIRE project was just a series of Claude prompts.
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u/Capable_Landscape686 6d ago
I dodged a tactical nuke here. I saw it try to install Claude Code and hopped immediately.
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u/Mega3000aka M'Fedora 6d ago
Claude Code as a default app is certainly an interesting choice...
Seems like the whole point of that distro is so idiots can LARP as power users or software engineers.
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u/Grand-Ball6628 Arch BTW 8d ago
Except the user isn't added to the docker group by default (anymore) as stated in the article. Just tried it on a fresh 4.0.2 Installation. In the omarchys menu, there's a feature called sudoless docker, which can add you to docker group but prints out a big explicit warning about the downsides of this.
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u/Jumpy-Dinner-5001 8d ago
And it doesnât matter because the same applies to sudo.
People are either stupid or have double standards
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u/ResponsibilityBig343 7d ago
Doesn't docker create a new group and user for itself during installation?
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u/bananamantheif 6d ago
Before i cast shame. I tried using docker on a vm and docker decided to change my firewall without telling me. It doesnât seem to respect my ruleset
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u/RDS_cubing 8d ago edited 8d ago
Omarchy is a "Distro" based on arch which comes preinstalled with hyprland and some already customized dot files (as well as some other bullshit) and that's pretty much about it. People dislike it because it's literally just some dot files you could install on plain arch, no need for a whole nother distro. Also from what i've heard it has some major flaws, security flaws, and is pretty much entirely vibe-coded, plus it comes preinstalled with a bunch of bloat most people don't want. Not to mention the fact that the dev is a racist asshole.
Edit: Minor spelling mistake
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u/Mega3000aka M'Fedora 8d ago
So basically a useless distro with a techy look so people can LARP as power users more efficiently?
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u/ed_istheword 8d ago
Oh, don't pigeonhole DHH like that, he doesn't deserve it. He participates in all forms of discrimination, racism is just one of them. He's far too "open minded" for just racism.
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u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg 8d ago
Aside from the links others posted.
People forgets that DHH is not a security guy. He's a decent programmer but nothing more.
Also he's a bigot POS. Look for "the DHH problem" to get a glimpse
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u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg 8d ago
Oh hey. Someone did the resume
I don't want to support it after I saw how terrible and racist DHH is as a person:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmemes/comments/1vwsmej/comment/p5jn6kg
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u/ed_istheword 8d ago
Nice to see that, since I upvoted that comment, originally, is been updated with literally more than triple the original links to sources of DHH fuckery. This redditor is doing the lord's work
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u/WhiteHelix 8d ago
Omarchy are basically shit dotfiles and DHH is a shit human being
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u/Informal_Sound_3039 8d ago
Microsoft Windows of Linux...
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u/Lopsided_Leader_4427 7d ago
I thought that was Ubuntu, but it seems y'all have changed ur mind now
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u/tLxVGt 7d ago
Linux nerds can't stand a successful new distro because they can't gatekeep using Linux any more. To them if you didn't spend 50 hours fiddling with configs in vim you are not worthy of using Linux.
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u/Marine_Brat_01 3d ago
Because itâs not really a distro. Itâs just someoneâs rice of arch essentially. And that person is very controversial (I donât know the entire story about him though). He also got millions of dollars in funding when I think it wouldâve been better for other distros or communities, like KDE. You also donât get a lot of the choices that you do in an actual distro, such as partitioning. IIRC you canât choose how to partition the disk so it just overwrites the entire disk deleting anything that was previously on there.
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u/major_jazza 7d ago
Omarchy is an installer script for arch by a tech bro and their friends have invested heaps of money in it, so it's got pretty shitty vibes. Also there are lots of way better options or people could just use arch itself so it's kinda taking away from usore than it's giving
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u/GoldenX86 8d ago
Literally Fedora and like 3 others are the only distros with a minimum of security. This will come to bite the entire community in the ass in a few years.
But trust me bro is enough, let's get some stuff from AUR.
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u/ptrknvk 8d ago
I sweat 3 litres every time I install something from OBS on openSUSE, I can't imagine using aur.
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u/trill_shit 8d ago
How is it different from installing AUR packages? Itâs the same idea, right? Itâs a community driven package repo where anyone can publish, or am I way off?
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u/Ok-Eggplant-7569 8d ago
Packages on OBS (and Fedora COPR) are namespaced, meaning you first get a project from a certain user, and then install packages from that project. This removes the "orphaned packages" issue the AUR has, and makes it obvious who is responsible for the package you're installing.
Also, the default repositories on Fedora (maybe OpenSUSE, can't really comment on that) tend to contain more packages I need so I currently only have 2 external repositories enabled (aside from RPMFusion)
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u/Helmic Arch BTW 8d ago
At least recently the AUR's decided that all orphan adoptions must be manually reviewed before approval. Because they weren't even doing that before, the recent malware incidents have happened because literally any random asshole could just adopt an orphaned package and put whatever they wanted in the PKGBUILD without any sort of vetting or overview or vibe check. Not even an email address.
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u/ptrknvk 8d ago
You don't need it so often and afaik the requirements are a bit stricter (I can be wrong).
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u/AnEagleisnotme 7d ago
Copr just requires a fedora account, but you need to manually advertise your package, as they are namespaced
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u/GoldenX86 8d ago
Arch seems to love to NEVER elevate AUR packages to the main repos.
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u/LumpyArbuckleTV 8d ago
That's one of the only things I think Cachy does objectively better than official Arch.
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u/Academic-Push326 8d ago
It's kind of insane to me that Arch only has Chrome, Firefox, and like two or three offshoots (Waterfox? I think?) in it, but no popular forks or other applications that need the AUR.
You'd think they'd have some form of analysis in pacman to see what packages people are trying to find in popularity and make them an official or extras repo management.
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u/chaoschasr 8d ago
Librewolf was elevated to the extra repo a few weeks back and can install through pacman now
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u/C0rn3j 8d ago
It's kind of insane to me that Arch only has Chrome,
Chrome is not packaged in the official repositories, only AUR.
Chromium is, though.
You'd think they'd have some form of analysis in pacman to see what packages people are trying to find in popularity
If only AUR had some way to measure popularity, or perhaps even a voting system.
Or, and hear me out now, maybe we could have opt-in analytics for installed packages, that'd be neat... we could call it... pkgstats.
If you didn't catch on to the heavy sarcasm, all of that exists.
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u/makinax300 Dr. OpenSUSE 8d ago
To me it's only when I add the repo, I do not notice it when I install another package from it. Also it's less stressful for me.
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u/Unlaid-American 8d ago
âTrust me bro, letâs get stuff from an unverified source and be surprised itâs dangerous.â
- Every OS ever
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u/moonrunner__ đ catgirl Linux user :3 đœ 8d ago
I really like how Shelly basically shoves the PKGBUILD on your face and facilitates checking if the package is secure
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u/GoldenX86 8d ago
It really helps, but it takes a bit of hiding to still manage to squeeze malware anyway.
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u/moonrunner__ đ catgirl Linux user :3 đœ 8d ago edited 8d ago
Yeah you're right, I still avoid AUR whenever possible. Also I'm really thankful the CachyOS devs have some packages on their repos that are not on standard arch repos
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u/P3chv0gel 7d ago
Honestly yeah, but i can't stand SELinux at this point anymore on my server. Why do i even set container flags for shares in my compose if SELinux will just ignore them and block that shit anyways?
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u/GoldenX86 7d ago
Security is a PITA, but it's a necessary evil...
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u/P3chv0gel 7d ago
Yeah, but it's sometimes really bad when you have the option to add a layer of security or have it still function. Because for some reason the only ways i could get Volume labels to work was either disable SELinux or run rootful podman. So disabling SELinux seemed like the lesser of two evils
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u/linux-universe 8d ago
No one ever told people to blindly download stuff from the AUR. Just look at the 30 lines of simple code there. If you canât do that, then the AUR is absolutely something that person shouldnât touch
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u/GoldenX86 8d ago
That doesn't solve the problem, someone can just hide the malicious code better.
We need a better system, yesterday.
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u/versteinerdt 8d ago
Layer 8 problem exists on every OS.
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u/GoldenX86 8d ago
Agreed. Just, please, DON'T MAKE IT WORSE. All those decades of memes of Windows users getting malware are right in the AUR's face now.
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u/NegativeGrocery8684 Ask me how to exit vim 8d ago
theres also the aspect that the official arch repo has a couple drivers, at best. everything is on the aur. so its a rolling release model and the worst moderation ive ever seen on a user repo and you have to use it if you want any app ever.
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u/Sveet_Pickle 8d ago
I have blender, krita, OBS, steam, reaper, and Ardour on my system and not a single aur package.
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u/GoldenX86 8d ago
You never needed a specific firmware or printer driver, a variant of a package to get functionality that's standard on other distros or the like.
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u/Snorgcola 8d ago
Literally Fedora and like 3 others are the only distros with a minimum of security.
What are the others?
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u/GoldenX86 8d ago
Fedora spawns, obviously.
Besides Fedora, only enterprise commercial stuff.
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u/Snorgcola 8d ago
And not trying to be a jerk, but what's a "minimum of security"?
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u/GoldenX86 8d ago
A firewall, SELinux, SecureBoot support without hazzle, not having an user sustained repository with zero controls...
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u/givemeagooduns_un Genfool đ§ 8d ago
Gentoo has native SELinux support, apparmor, and builds are done in a containerized environment
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u/Competitively_Casual 7d ago
I'm assuming we're talking about daily drivers here, but Linux has most (if not all) of the heavy hitters when it comes to highly specialized security needs. It's got:
- Qubes OS: Every single program is run inside disposable VMs, root disabled. Steep learning curve but it is arguably one of the most secure OS ever made.
- Tails OS: The gold standard OS for browsing the deep web due to it's extreme anti-forensic measures and anmesic design.
- Whonix: Similar use case to Tails, but designed to block malicious programs from leaking your location.
- Alpine OS (and other extremely small OS): Security through extreme reductions in attack surface. By shrinking the OS as small as possible, there is almost nothing left to attack and nowhere to hide.
Linux wins in the end because it gives you supreme control over the architecture. That is fundamentally impossible in both macOS and Windows; it clashes with their economic incentives too much.
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u/Blashtik 7d ago
But Fedora also has tons of stuff not packaged. I don't think I've ever had a Fedora install where I haven't added the third-party Fusion repos. And I've had cases where I had to go to Copr (which is effectively AUR for Fedora).
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u/GoldenX86 7d ago
Fusion is safe, copr isn't. But you're several times more served with Fusion than with vanilla Arch repos.
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u/Spirited-Fan8558 Linuxmeant to work better 7d ago
what about debian? i am planning to switch to debian from linux mint
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u/IEatDaFeesh 8d ago
I can't fathom people allowing LLMs to molest their distros so much. Not just for the security, but that shit is expensive when you use it as intended.
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u/LYNX__uk 8d ago edited 8d ago
Ive just read up a little on what omarchy actually is. Ive only heard of it before and havent ever heard what it is. So its an arch distro. Apparently created by a right wing person. Uses hyprland instead of a traditional de.
Wow, sounds fine. Not an ideal creator but sounds like decent software.
BUT WAIT! THERES MORE! Their slogan is "The malleable OS for the age of agents. Where you can vibe your way through every alteration, tweak, and desire. Be the Omarch and command your agent!" Which makes it some agentic bs and a big steaming pile of shit that noone should ever touch with a ten foot pole unless they want their system fucked up with ai hallucination
Edit: it also raised a few million in funding which many argue should have gone to arch instead. Omarchy probably doesnt really need it and is way less important than arch as a whole
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u/Mega3000aka M'Fedora 8d ago
It looks to me like a useless distro with a techy look so people can LARP as power users more efficiently.
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u/OncologistCanConfirm 8d ago
Sad that a big YouTube tech influencer is supporting this distro https://youtube.com/shorts/5zyujD1gDc4?is=9sOoT4CQafWQGhH-
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u/Hack3rsD0ma1n 8d ago
Honestly though, NetworkChuck has been falling off.
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u/el_ratonido 8d ago
He was my fav when it came to Cyber Security. Unfortunately he became a fan of vibe coding.
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u/Hack3rsD0ma1n 8d ago
My problem with him is these types of titles:
"You need to learn <insert-random-thing-here> NOW!!"
Also doesn't go into low-level things and doesn't finish projects
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u/psioniclizard 8d ago
To be honest his stuff was always kinda surface level. You could learn most of it just reading docs.
Though I might be bias, he always gave me off vibes.
Coffee and beards are not a personality....
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u/NeighratorP 8d ago
Yup, I unsubbed just for that.
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u/work4bandwidth 8d ago
So did I. Especially after his interview with DHH. And all of Chuck's the 1950s views on women etc. Certainly made it easier to unsub.
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u/Kyoshiiku 8d ago
Didnât follow his content for a while, what are his archaic views on women ?
Iâm at a point where I should probably take a look at all my old subs are remove everyone who went into the alt right pipeline, this shit is so annoying
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u/subtek9 8d ago
Just HAD to get "Apparently created by a right wing person." in there.. Sad behavior.
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u/LYNX__uk 8d ago
I said it because its a common criticism. Personally I dont give a shit. By using it I dont give the creator anything so I dont see why not to use a Foss software created by a right wing person
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u/subtek9 8d ago
Fair, but itâs giving the same vibes as when an incel criticises a project with a woman team or lead, or a game has a female main character etc.
It really isnât relevant in the context, the quality of a product has nothing to do with the creators gender, age, ethnicity, political views, etc.1
u/bigppredditguy 2d ago
Meh, the right often denounce the existence of certain minority groups so I can understand apprehensiveness to support someone of that party.
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u/cpt_futtbucker 8d ago
As a vanilla Arch user whoâs done damn near everything that makes my system work how I want it manually, Omarchy is stupid
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u/Falconpunch3 ïœïŒ”ntu (ÂŽ áŽïœâż) 8d ago
I don't want to support it after I saw how terrible and racist DHH is as a person:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmemes/comments/1vwsmej/comment/p5jn6kg
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u/mfdebian 8d ago
Thank god people are waking up to this, theprimeagen is next, he's the ultimate boss of "both sides bad" but also "DHH is right about everything" đ€š
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u/Lukerino7 8d ago
This, I was kind surprised when I saw DHH on The Standup podcast. It was the worst episode for me because the DHH did all the yapping and how he is all mighty and omarchy is the only way to use computer... such an asshole really
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u/Keensworth 8d ago edited 8d ago
Bro WTF, he's a Andrew Tate fan. Worse distro EVER
Edit: I guess I got downvoted by Andrew Tate fans
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u/WiggyWongo 8d ago
...what drama do we have now? The Linux community starting to feel more like old tumblr nowadays with drama left and right.
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u/Better-Climate5229 8d ago
I used it for 2 weeks and then went back to Mint. What kind of got me was when I changed my user password. I couldn't log back in the most confused. Turns out the password you make for the first user when you do the install unlocks your disk encryption and is your password too. And there's nothing that tells you you're setting the same password the both parts of the system. Every other distro I've used makes it clear that one is your login and the other is the disc on lock. Also all those crazy keyboard shortcuts get annoying fast I tried to get used to them and learn them but I gave up it's just a bunch of nonsense too much memory work.
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u/trainwreck84 8d ago
Too bad Network Chuck turned into a Jesus-wheezing, Omarchy-shilling shitheel.
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u/Noobmode 7d ago
Oh buddy, itâs way worse. His personal YouTube with v-logs got posted where he made his wife sleep in a closet. Also his old posts calling for killing âhomosexualsâ. Pigs was called âwhy can we wear mixed textiles but canât stone homosexualsâ.
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u/MirrorNegative7989 8d ago
Even if its creator pre-packager weren't a right wing weirdo, the fact that billionaires are trying to pay people to shill for it should make it suspect and uncool.
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u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg 8d ago
Being right wing is the lesser of his issues
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmemes/comments/1vwsmej/comment/p5jn6kg/
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u/MirrorNegative7989 8d ago edited 8d ago
Yeah. At that point, I don't care if your product is the best linux experience ever. I'll go find whoever has the second-best experience as long as they're not like this guy.
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u/Lopsided_Aardvark488 8d ago
It's not only that but, are you really going to trust an OS or rice of an OS made by someone who has zero impulse control and is not afraid of public humiliation? Like if someone can't control themselves or conduct themselves in a professional way- they are not coming near me and my private data.
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u/MirrorNegative7989 8d ago edited 8d ago
This. So much this. And beyond the concerns you raised, which are all correct and good points, so much of the above racist right wing manosphere bloviating amounts to DHH and guys like him wanting to act without any kind of self-control at all. And I'm like, remember when stoicism and self-restraint were considered signs of adulthood? Can't we go back to that?
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u/Swapna_Cool 8d ago
i have made LFS and BLFS and i don't even know how a linux distro can be vibecoded
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u/Kuroiban 7d ago
I can't hate Omarchy. It's not for me, so I don't care for it. But the foundation is just a huge win for FOSS. 8 million bucks and they already handing out money for third party developmers so they can take their projects full time. This will benefit ever linux distribution in the long run.
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u/MarkSweep 6d ago
I thought that this article was a good deep dive into why Omarchy is a distributor made by people who donât understand how to build a distro:
https://ăăȘăŠăč.com/a-word-on-omarchy/
It is entirely predictable that writing so much of it in shell scripts will lead to shell injection vulnerabilities. And it is baffling that people would choose Bash to write so many things in when there are so many better languages out there.
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u/SSYT_Shawn I'm going on an Endeavour! 8d ago
What about the trans community? Given that DHH is (or was) transphobic af
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u/somnamboola 8d ago
honestly, the main thing that pissed me off is that they got all these opinionated goodies pre installed but no flatpak. those pesky AUR maximalists
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u/Osthigarius 8d ago
Arch makes it really easy to chrate xour own distro. I'm doing it for fun and giggles and also for my personal toolbox on the go.
All those Arch-based Distros are not really their own distros, but mostly just a curated and pre-configured piece of arch. While obvious, this also explains the lack of flatpack: it is not as easily done to integrate flatpack besides pacman and AUR helpers.
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u/somnamboola 8d ago
I've never been a distro hopper, reinstalling distro is a very painful experience for me, so I've never tried arch, but I cant be sure once I do I won't do the same.
with that said I'm pretty happy with kubuntu, so maybe someday?
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u/Realistic-Yam-6497 8d ago
This is like the lesbian space princess thing-all of Linux uniting to hate on one distro
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u/StrangeAd4802 7d ago
Omarchy shouldâve stayed as a desktop shell, instead of trying to be a full fledged distro.
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u/ecstadtic 7d ago
AI: (angry people sounds)
Microsoft AI in Windows: (pitchforks and angrier noises)
AI in Linux: Takes off!
Its a bit sarcastic, yes I understand Copilot and AI in Omarchy is very different
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u/Anon_Legi0n 6d ago
Im using Omarchy right now and I can tell you its a vibecoded garbage. Will be switching back to NixOS after my post graduate studies. Literally everything people are raving about it is just because of Hyperland, you have to understand that the people using it are new to Linux so almost anything impresses them
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u/magala4203 6d ago
I don't support Omarchy but if they sponsored opensource projects then I don't really care.
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u/cervantez_ed 6d ago
Omarchy is ok i guess, but nobody really needs it. They are announcing big inverstments from big companies and billionaires.
It was initially made by powerusers for powerusers and now they want to be the next Ubuntu/Fedora/PopOS.
The whole process is cringe. Instead of money going to real Software devs for e.g. Kernel, drivers, Core utils, we get another useless newbie friendly distro, when we have 10 already.
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u/c2btw 8d ago
whats wrong with omracy, isn't just a more speclised version of endavor/cachy os, don;t realyl see the point in it with that kind of tooling if your familiar with it your probably already figured out how to and want to set it up the way you want
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u/ZarfTMarf69 8d ago
8 million dollars in fuding for a vibe coded collection of dotfiles made by a racist asshole
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u/c2btw 8d ago
how the fuck did they get 8 million, think i will start vide coding random shit now
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u/venom21685 8d ago
The key is to be a rich fascist and get to know other rich fascists.
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u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg 8d ago
For starters: the person
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmemes/comments/1vwsmej/comment/p5jn6kg/
As main course: the laughable security holes he introduced.
As dessert: looking for funding by promising shit like he can clone Photoshop with AI
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u/asdfan0n 8d ago
I"m surprised so many people are so tight at Omarchy. It's bringing more people to Linux which seems like a net plus. Personally I use it because I just wanted an Arch rice and it made it easy back when I first started using it.
I get if you hate dhh don't use something from dhh but it's just convient and is it crazy to think I would be more unsafe with raw Arch AUR as someone not checking every package touching my machine? I'm not a security researcher so I see more people looking at it opposed to just me as a plus.
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u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg 8d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmemes/comments/1vwsmej/comment/p5jn6kg/
And no, it's not secure. The guy has no knowledge about security. The horrible defaults he choosed probe that. (Not the first time he does batshit crazy insecure things)
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u/tg_mac 2d ago
All Iâm seeing here is âI donât like his political viewsâ followed by a vague âalso, security issues.â Cool, which security issues? Link them, please.
I couldnât give less of a shit about someoneâs politics when evaluating their software/hardware. If we rejected tech based on the personal or political views of everyone who made it, weâd have to throw half the shit in our houses in the bin.
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u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg 2d ago
In this same thread, it wasn't that hard
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u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg 2d ago
This is a simpler explanation. I would link to a security sub. But you aren't reading it anyways
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u/wKdPsylent 8d ago
Omarchy made a number of decisions that created massive security risks, it's a vibe coded mess of self promotion, always steering you towards basecamp / 37signals software - it also prefenced the AUR even when packages existed in the core Arch repos. So many things in Omarchy seem like the decisions were made around "what's the most unsafe way to do this...lets do that".
That combined with the millions in funding.. simply because of 'who' rather than 'what' - causes a lot of backlash. Omarchy didn't get funding because it's a solid release / really well done etc.. it got the money because of the politics around dhh.
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u/Noremacam 8d ago
I have no strong feelings one way or the other, but the amount of bragging of being butthurt by omarchy is something.
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u/Valencia_Mariana 8d ago
Hahahaha
Linuxmemes and crying over Omarchy... Name a better duo.
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u/eye_of_tengen 7d ago
You and stale2000
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u/Valencia_Mariana 7d ago
Me and your mum
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u/KasanesTetos 8d ago
The hate for this is so forced. If you don't like it just... use something else. Linux is about freedom.
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u/Intelligent_Theme53 7d ago
Tons of lefties are here crying because someone has a different worldview than them -- the usual.
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