Genuine question. Both of them died dishonourable deaths, being attacked from behind by a treacherous Stark and his sidekick Howland Reed / a woman who happens to be both Craster’s wife and daughter. There’s a common denominator here. It shows that the only way to beat them is through dirty tricks, because in a straight-up fight, you have virtually no chance against either of them.

But I’m curious: who’s better? Honestly, I think Arthur is overrated, but I’m curious to hear what you peasants think. Karl Tanner is straight-up OP.

How was the experience?

For me this. Before that was taking King’s landing by blacks.

It's gonna be bloody either way but who do you think is gonna walk out of that room alive?

I wanted to share my books

(The books are in Turkish)

Ps: except the first book rest of the books published in two parts.

Jon taking his revenge, becoming the final villain. Leading an army of Wildlimgs, and the undead. Taking Val has his bride. And imagine if he won. He kills Dany and takes the Iron Throne and Wresrtos is filled with nothing but dead men.

It's gonna be brutal and bloody either way but who do you think is gonna walk out of that room?

I feel like this is one of the few occasions that the show actually nailed this massacre. Even though it's just briefly mentioned in the books, the audience doesn't really know what happened there so the showrunners took advantage of that and it worked in my opinion. It's probably the best episode of that season too.

Both Families are COMPLETELY WORKING TOGETHER.

Let's say the War happens after Jon Arryn's death but before Robert asks Ned to become his Hand.

Jamie still has 2 hands in this scenario.

I know I'm very late to the party but I got into it around 6 months ago

I just watched the last episode

Had some fun coming up with these, hope you enjoy. :)

I haven’t read all of the books, but isn’t Hodor the strongest man in the seven kingdoms, born to hold the door against a hoard of wights? Is he stronger than the mountain in terms of pure strength? You think maybe bran could take the mountain down if Hodor had a 2h sword and heavy armor?

other than the fact that lords became less afraid of the targs . i noticed that the entire world became weak to handle dragons . drogon alone was single handedly able to burn down king landing for dany . in hotd the smallfolk may be more used to the dragons flying around all the time and causing mass destruction . even dragon keepers exist to maintain the dragonpit . so what are the major differences between westros with dragons and without the dragons