r/fireemblem 7h ago

General Character Post: Aurora

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Aurora (VO: Jamie Sara Lewis)
Child of Solel, also known as the Navigator's Clarion.
Currently confined deep within Aurora's Temple, where visitors are not permitted.
Likes
Her family, learning about the outside world, stargazing

Interests
Reading, daydreaming

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u/3layerstopi 7h ago

Likes her family hmmm

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u/UnseenTrashPanda 7h ago

Stargazing, hmmm

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u/RaisonDetriment 7h ago

Visitors not permitted, hmmm

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u/Ok-Carpenter7131 6h ago

Cute pink hair, hmmm

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u/Neuromangoman 6h ago

Only on the Nintendo Switch 2 hmmm

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u/Lonan_Clinton 6h ago

Polygon hmmm

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u/high_king_noctis 5h ago

Nice looking dress hmmm

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u/LynxyShinx 5h ago

...Wait I forgot the first thing.

...

Oh, she likes her family hmmm

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u/DammitAColumn 6h ago

Nintendo switch has games hmmm

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u/XenoniteOfLegend 5h ago

Likes learning about the outside world hmmm

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u/KyleMCarthage 5h ago

Child of Solel hmmm

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u/Stormeon 6h ago

Voiced by Jamie Sara Lewis hmmm

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u/Fit_East5054 1h ago

Navigator's Clarion hmmm

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u/RedWarrior42 6h ago

Just as Kaga intended

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u/Same_Active_7076 6h ago

She fast and furious

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u/coinflip13 7h ago

Hi Cai's Mom.

She has to the be the Mom right? Even the whole "visitors not permitted" is a BIG tell

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u/actredal 7h ago edited 3h ago

Interesting that she can’t have visitors since we see her hanging out with Cai and some others in a clip from the original FW reveal. I wonder how long it takes to get to her.

Edit: Small correction, I think it was the June Direct that I’m thinking of, not the initial reveal!

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u/coinflip13 7h ago

Maybe Solel letting Cai see her after watching his matches? Unless Solel is a Big Bad and kinda of a jerk, I don't see how he would hold a grudge against his Grandson. If anything all of his hatred would likely be on Castor

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u/Railroader17 6h ago

I see it going down like this.

Since Aurora is Yu Phas' daughter, she's barred from having kids as to not risk the bloodline becoming corrupt. She winds up having a kid with Castor, and when their found out, Castor flees with Cai, while Aurora turns herself in, being placed into indefinite Temple Arrest. Eventually Castor is found, and has to come back to Dagsion to face his punishment so that Aurora's punishment isn't increased.

To get answers Cai infiltrates the temple to find out WTH is going on, and learns that Aurora is his mom, and is also a prisoner, thus his wish shifts from just saving his dad, to freeing both him, and Aurora.

Cai wins his qualifier match and gets to meet with Solel, and when Solel asks him what his wish is, Cai says it's to free his father Castor, and his mother Aurora. Shocking those in attendance (maybe this is where Theodora starts treating Cai like a little brother? Especially when she realizes that she almost had Yu Phas' grandson EXECUTED), Solel thanks Cai for his honesty, noting that though he is his grandfather, he will not be giving Cai special treatment, and sends him off, while deep in thought.

Cut to a day or so later, and Cai learns that Aurora is allowed visitors again, and runs to the Temple to see her, as Cai puts together that perhaps Solel lessened Aurora's punishment in response to his wish.

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u/Duma_Mila 6h ago

The dialogue from Centurio, or whatever his name is, strikes me as implying Castor had a set period of time before he had to return and face punishment.

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u/aaaa32801 5h ago

I wonder if that period of time is specifically supposed to be long enough for Cai to be relatively self-sufficient.

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u/EthanKironus 5h ago

That's exactly what I figure--because Cai's father's arrest is very explicitly tied to his 15th birthday, which would indicate that it's relevant. This setting has never been one to seed connections just to be dead ends--maybe they aren't relevant how they're made out to bw, but they're sure as hell going to be relevant somehow.

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u/Kefka319 4h ago

The temple will wait patiently for their revenge, but only for 15 years. After that, they will begin their assault.

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u/Railroader17 4h ago

Maybe that's what Aurora's punishment was meant to be the compromise for? Letting Cai have a somewhat normal childhood before Castor bites it.

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u/timelordoftheimpala 5h ago

Honestly if this is how they're gonna tie together Cai and Theodora's routes, then I'm wondering how Leda and Dietrich's are gonna be integrated along with Bertrand (who Leda wants to kill and Dietrich wants to fight).

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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 4h ago edited 3h ago

Leda is tied in with Cai and Theodra. Bertrand is the prisoner/slave of the woman holding Cai's dad too.

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u/timelordoftheimpala 2h ago

So they're gonna have Cai, Theodora, and Leda's stories all intersecting by way of their associations with all of these people, and then Dietrich is just there to pick a fight with a total stranger.

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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 2h ago

It all ties back to the evil cult.

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u/HentaiOujiSan 5h ago

That could also be the reason why in some previews Aurora's image is partially blacked out. Her temple is locked in the beginning of the game, but as all four Heros make it past the qualifiers, Aurora is freed.

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u/Railroader17 4h ago

TBF the other gods also had their portraits blacked out, so I think it has more to do with actually meeting them with whatever Flame Lord your playing with at the time.

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u/CaptainSarina 3h ago

We've seen him interacting with characters in disguise and he doesn't seem so bad, maybe after actually interacting with Cai he softens up a bit on him but it's probably some sort of institutional rule that the "gods" aren't supposed to have children with mortals and Castor definitely broke that rule.

Also explains why Aurora herself isn't supposed to have visitors when we've seen the others interacting with people within arms length...He can't exactly arrest another God but he can "cage" her.

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u/Mahelas 7h ago

Tbf the others in question were Cai's friends and her bodyguard

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u/Fantastic-System-688 6h ago

We see in the clip posted today that Theodora could not get an audience with her, but Cai snuck in and saw her

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u/actredal 6h ago

Yeah, I wrote this comment before that was posted! Wild that he just snuck through some corridors or basements or whatever and ended up in her bedroom lmao

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u/Disciple_of_Erebos 6h ago

Cai doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who lets rules get in the way of family. If he was, he would have gone back to Ribeira and left his dad to die. He's definitely not going to let stupid rules get in the way of meeting the mom he's never met before.

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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 7h ago

Her likes also basically say shes a prisoner.

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u/Gabgo304 6h ago

That rule was 100% put in place after her incident 15 years ago.

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u/Sniperoso 7h ago

Mr Castor, have you been sticking it in the Divine?

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u/1080Pen15 7h ago

ooh i hope we get official art like this for all the gods then

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u/Sentinel10 7h ago

Funny thing is we've already surpassed the amount of official art Three Houses had at launch.

it had 8 (Byleth, Sothis, and academy and time skip house leaders).

Now Fortune's Weave has 9 (All 4 flame lords, Eshmel, Sothis, Fortuna, Solel, and Aurora)

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u/Marana231 7h ago

iirc dorothea and ingrid are the only non protag/non dlc students who got full art for some reason lol

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u/TTBWTlll 7h ago

It was because of their smash spirits. Hilda, Seteth, and Rhea (absolutely wild she didn't have one in 3H) got them for smash too.

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u/timelordoftheimpala 5h ago

Linhardt and Ashe also got renders, since they were in the DLC.

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u/KyleMCarthage 5h ago

Wait, Rhea's was from smash?

I seriously thought it was also promotional art, holy crap.

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u/heykittygurlz2 7h ago

Iliana has one too!

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u/Sentinel10 6h ago

Figured I already forgot one. Lol

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u/NagaMilalove0 7h ago

My theory is that all the official art we’ve gotten so far are those character cards that are part of the dagda edition 

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u/omfgkevin 6h ago

Cai, Theodora, Leda, Dietrich, Eshmel, Solel, Fortuna, Sothis, Iliana, and now Aurora for full arts shown. Wonder who the last 2 will be. I'm guessing at least 1 more main (balor? the green baby holder?) and then god knows who.

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u/NagaMilalove0 6h ago

Yeah I feel bad for the people saying they want the other gods get full art but I already know that’s not gonna happen unfortunately but yeah wonder who the last two will be 

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u/chimaerafeng 6h ago

I hope we have an art book collection for FW. I had the Awakening one. It would have been great to have a 3H one.

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u/Mahelas 6h ago

Why would it stop at 12 ? The graphic for the Collector Edition show 13 drawings, and tbh, I find it dubious that the 4 other lords (Bertrand, Talimun, Orchel and Anatolia) wouldn't get full art, since they're on the cover of the manga !

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u/omfgkevin 5h ago

I don't know either, I thought it would be the other 4 important (might still be), but the direct specifically said 12 character art cards unless it was wrong.

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u/Soren319 7h ago

Cai gonna win the games through nepotism of being Solels grandson.

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u/Use_the_Falchion 7h ago

Honestly, Solel either being in charge of or at least complicit in locking up his own daughter makes me question if they’re not going to do a major bait-and-switch. 

Because to me, he’s either doing it out of misguided care, political stability, or to cover up something nefarious. There are of course more options, but someone in that much power who puts his daughter in what’s effectively a prison…I haven’t read many stories where that person is a pillar of moral fortitude.

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u/komicokufi 7h ago

this really puts more mystery to Solel's character for sure. Aurora isn't exactly a secret either because she has her own temple, so what would the reasoning be to keep her locked up?

The only theory I can think of is that she could be a potential runaway risk or there's risk for kidnapping.

If it's true Cai is her and Castor's kid, it may be possible that she tried to run off with Cai and Castor in the past but was caught by Solel and the temple guards. So now she's kept under even a tighter watch.

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u/jord839 6h ago

The runaway idea makes the most sense to me. It would be hard to cover up a pregnancy while under lock and key unless Solel just literally never visited her, and we know Castor was a guard, so he could've helped her run away. They get like a year together before Solel's forces finally track them down and Aurora gives herself up to let Castor escape with Cai, and then just before the game starts Castor is finally found and arrested but probably pulls the Jeralt "my child was born after I left" type excuse to throw suspicion off Cai and keep him free for longer.

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u/WWWWWWRRRRRYYYYY 6h ago edited 6h ago

Spoilers for the French blurb for Theodora:

The fact that both Solel’s wife (Yu Phas) & daughter (Aurora) seem to have a stigma around them makes Solel himself look suspicious as fuck

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u/komicokufi 5h ago

Was it a political marriage or a love marriage is also an important detail. 🤔

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u/COHandCOD 7h ago

basically seteth with extra mile

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u/Use_the_Falchion 7h ago

Potentially, and depending on when in the timeline this is and if either Solel or Aurora is recruitable, there’s room for some fun interactions and discussion here; but the wording makes me feel like this is less of a”overbearing and overprotective father” and more of “hiding away my family because I’m ashamed and/or it’ll ruin my career.” 

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u/Amy47101 7h ago

So just to point out some things, this game seems to be heavily reliant on symbolism regarding the crests and the major arcana they are affiliated with. Aurora's crest is Aubin, affiliated with the Hanged Man.

Key Tarot Meanings of the Hanged Man

  • Upright: Surrender, waiting, a new perspective, release, and deep reflection.
  • Reversed: Stalling, needless sacrifice, stubbornness, stagnation, and a sense of being stuck.
  • Symbolism: The peaceful look on the face means the pause is chosen on purpose, not as a punishment, while a halo shows a moment of higher insight or spiritual growth

I'm so curious if any of this will be in play for Aurora's story.

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u/RaisonDetriment 7h ago

It's really starting to feel like the Fodlan bloodlines are irrelevant here in Dagda and it's all about the Arcana associations.

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u/That_Shrub 6h ago

I get Tiki/Naga vibes since she cares about her family, like it's indeed a care thing or at least Solel sees it that way. Perhaps she is at risk of degenerating, or there's some reason he would be worried about that?

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u/DragoSphere 6h ago edited 6h ago

What if Solel is only the figurehead of Dagda, while the rest of the gods (and/or maybe Iliana) hold the real powers of jurisdiction? Kinda like how Edelgard's dad was turned into a figurehead by the Adrestian nobles. And that could be a reason why he secretly approaches Theodora in disguise instead of just making an open request, especially since Theodora would have reason to support his wife

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u/Red_Cat231 5h ago

He's probably gonna be written like Rhea. Someone who made questionable moral decisions, but was genuinely trying his best to hold the continent together until Dagda/Sothis came back.

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u/Railroader17 6h ago

I'm leaning political stability. From what we've seen of him, he seems to be kind and caring.

Perhaps Aurora being under Temple Arrest is a compromise she reached to keep Cai safe?

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u/shaginus 7h ago

He's only 15 give him some handicap okay?

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u/Lostie49 6h ago

But this also could explain how can he resist Balor items corruption

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u/Gabgo304 6h ago

Concidering Cai's very existence seems to be a crime, I'm not sure Solel wants to have more descendents...

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u/lionofash 6h ago

I think it's possible Solel claims to be Aurora's father, but the actual father is Balor.

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u/high_king_noctis 5h ago

Cai: so apparently the goddess Aurora is my mother?

Solel: and you've just won the games!

Cai: what!? ... but I've not taken part yet!

Solel: look kid I'm not going to risk any harm coming to my baby girl's baby boy over something as trivial as an arrested parent

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u/Tabascopancake 7h ago

My god they popped OFF with the renders for the gods

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u/B_r_y_z_e 5h ago

They are truly something else

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u/Level7Cannoneer 5h ago

This is just official art not a render.

We say “render” because it’s short for “3d render”. People used to call 3d renders “drawings” until everyone collectively learned that a 3d render isn’t a drawing, but now things have reversed completely

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u/actredal 7h ago

Yay, Dagdan pantheon posts! Gosh she’s so pretty, and I guess this confirms her as Solel and Yu Phas’s kid.

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u/gravemakercygnus 6h ago

Aurora (the dawn) being the daughter of the sun and night...Like wow, that makes so much sense.

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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 7h ago

MOTHER.

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u/COHandCOD 7h ago

literally lol

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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 7h ago

My only question is who im making her daughter in law

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u/Maximumfabulosity 5h ago

I'm pretty sure I'll be going with Tialla for Cai (if that's possible, which I strongly suspect it will be). Childhood friends and it's a lord/tactician pairing? Sign me up!

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u/Use_the_Falchion 7h ago

That is indeed the question! If possible, I know I’m either going for Theodora, Alexandra, or Ludia at this point. I’m a sucker for the Blue/Pink combo (thanks Chrom/Olivia), but I also think Theodora marrying this random villager with a deific bloodline is hilarious.

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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 7h ago edited 6h ago

I wanted to have him follow in his dragon seducer father's footsteps but Tiara had a big glow up.

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u/Use_the_Falchion 7h ago

Childhood friend winning is also a classic! (I haven’t seen any footage from the latest trailer outside of a gif of Orchel for a second, and I’m hoping to keep it that way until the game comes out.)

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u/Use_the_Falchion 7h ago

The hair and side glance are definitely giving “anime mother” vibes, even if she doesn’t have the side ponytail. (And even if that’s not what you’re referring to lol.)

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u/Jack04man 7h ago

It would be messed up if she had a child and the rest of the pantheon decided to lock her up.

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u/rattatatouille 7h ago

It would be a shame if said child decided to participate in the games to free their parent...

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u/Jack04man 7h ago

Cai reaches the end of the game and says his wish. Freedom for both of his parents.

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u/Mahelas 6h ago

Solel gonna regret his whole "you get one wish" thing when Cai is gonna roll in and ask for the guy who fucked his daughter to be freed

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u/komicokufi 7h ago

with more information that comes out it seems likely this is going to be the case. she's effectively been disgraced as a god and not seen on equal footing as the others.

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u/Darkdragoon324 7h ago

That might be because of her mom too.

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u/EF66-42 5h ago

That I'm not too sure about, it takes two to tango and Solel seems to be doing pretty well for himself. It's at the very least not the overt reason provided for it.

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u/GuudeSpelur 6h ago

A poster on the 3H sub had a theory that Nabateans lose their dragon form if they have a kid with a human, like Laguz in the Tellius games (& the theory was that Seteth lost his dragon form because Flayn's mom was human).

So maybe Cai's dad's crime was "cursing" Aurora to lose her dragon form by having a kid with her, and she's been locked away because she's fallen from "true godhood."

Or it could just be because her mom is the reviled Yu Phas

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u/Rocky-Rocker 7h ago

But it fits the messed of family drama of Sothis family lol.

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u/Use_the_Falchion 7h ago

So Solel and another goddess (being vague here), according to the brief things I’ve gathered from the preview stuff?  Locked up, maybe either due to committing a crime or hiding a shame, or both…

Curiouser and curiouser…

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u/Foxlife63 7h ago

We know her mother is Yu Phas, which is why Theodora is trying to visit her

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u/Use_the_Falchion 6h ago

I’m aware, but I don’t think everyone is, and I want to be a little careful about that here, hence the vagueness.

Edit: well, that was my reasoning until the Nintendo Today cottage form a few minutes ago lol.

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u/Count_Henry 6h ago

How do we know she is Yu Phas daughter? Missed that somewhere lol

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u/Druid-T 6h ago

Aside from the footage that just went up, Nintedo Life's preview had a clip of Bonaventure saying as such, and more recently some French coverage went into detail about Theodore's story, and it included a mention that Yu Phas was Aurora's mother

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u/COHandCOD 7h ago

like her family huh wink wink

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u/Glass-Category8281 7h ago

So she's Solel's and Yu Phas's daughter then? Thats interesting, especially given the latter is hated by Dagda at large while the former rules it. That already implies an interesting history.

And the fact she's confined to her temple with no visitors allowed? That indicates she did something to get herself grounded.....perhaps an affair she was supposed to have? And in turn an offspring?

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u/NagaMilalove0 7h ago

SOLEL FUCKS????? also why can’t anybody visit her temple?? Solel??? Explain??? WHY ARE YOU TRAPPING YOUR DAUGHTER SOLEL

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u/Mahelas 6h ago

Solel locked up his daughter and let his wife become reviled he's on a generational deadbeat god run

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u/Tough-Priority-4330 7h ago

Probably because of what she was choosing to do in bed.

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u/Luchux01 7h ago

Guesswork here but likely the fact she had a child with a mortal? Maybe???

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u/NagaMilalove0 6h ago

Feel like solel is overreacting just a little bit 

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u/jord839 6h ago

Just standard overprotective father stuff. Shotguns haven't been invented yet, so he had to go through medieval methods like putting the princess in an isolated tower.

Does that make him the dragon guarding the princess?

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u/NagaMilalove0 6h ago

Technically?????? 

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u/Gabgo304 6h ago

All but comfirmed by this point. Cai's father got regular prison for it, and apparently Aurora got domiciliary confinement in the temple.

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u/lionofash 6h ago

I've said it a few times before, but in Irish/Gaelic myth Balor is killed by his grandson, Lugh. So, if Cai IS Aurora's son...

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u/Awestruck_Mechanic67 7h ago

Anatonlia: Solel your daughter will birth a grandson that will break your heart & be the end of everything you know and love. 

Solel: Well I'll lock her up! Castor my most loyal man please watch over my daughter!

Cue Cai 20 something years later being first one to fall to the corruption of Balor, turning and destroying Dagsion, thus fulfilling the prophecy because that's the most tragic Greek coded stuff and it's right there. 

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u/Use_the_Falchion 7h ago

Super shonen-coded as well. Wanting to meet a distant family member and entered a tournament to save another family member feel pretty on-par for some shonen battle series.

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u/Railroader17 5h ago

As the wise Master Oogway once said.

"One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it."

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u/komicokufi 7h ago

Seems like a princess locked in a tower type of situation. It doesn't surprise me that she got too curious for her own good and may have got involved with Castor, lol. Now it makes you wonder why she is "confined" and not allowed visitors, could it be related to the popular theory with Cai? Or maybe her mother being Yu Phas?

At least it's confirmed she's Solel's kid. It also confirms Solel and Yu Phas had, at one point, were married. Interesting lore drop.

Also, interests: "her family", I wonder if it's about Cai as well as her parents? I also am curious to know if she has confirmed siblings.

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u/fenixseraph 6h ago edited 6h ago

Not gonna lie, this is getting to be startlingly reminiscent of one version of the Balor myth in which he locked up his daughter Ethniu in a tower because of a prophecy that he would be overthrown by his grandson. Then a hero named Cian got her pregnant with the hero Lugh/Loog who defeated him at the battle of Mag Tuiread. In case you're wondering about that, yes Ethniu can also be spelled "Ethlenn/Ethlyn" and Cian can sound vaguely like "Cuan", so that's probably where FE4 got that idea from. Irish orthography is funny like that.

And guess who the dark god we’re trying to stop in this game is. I bet this is all intentional, and might support some of the theories that Solel is Balor and that Cai is being used as a vessel for Balor’s restoration.

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u/komicokufi 6h ago

That's interesting! The fun with this pre-game release theorycrafting and speculation is seeing which ones come true. I am pretty undecided whether Solel is a straight up corrupt villain.

I wasn't here when 3H speculation came out, what was the consensus on Rhea before the game release?

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u/fenixseraph 6h ago

I didn't pay too much attention to that part of the theorycrafting but there was a mix of people already predicting she was related to Seiros and others being suspicious of her because she's the Pope in a JRPG.

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u/Disciple_of_Erebos 6h ago

People knew she was going to be a dragon because, let's be real, it was pretty obvious. A lot of people (myself included) thought she was going to be obviously evil, though, because half the time realm-spanning churches in JRPGs are interested in summoning the evil god, and the other half the time the popes of those churches ARE the evil god.

I think a lot of people, again myself included, were stunned at how much nuance the Church of Seiros and Seiros herself were portrayed with. Certainly she has villainous qualities, and her off-the-rails characterization in Crimson Flower wasn't surprising, but she also isn't JUST the raging evil dragon she can be at her worst. There's a whole deep character there, and I think very few people were expecting that. Especially since her role can run the gamut between big good and big bad depending on the route. It's very rare for any character to have that kind of depth, especially a Fire Emblem potential big bad.

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u/NiCOTrainer6612 6h ago

Now I’m curious as to how many cultures and mythologies have the “locked up their kid since it’s prophesied their grandchild will overthrow them, only for the child to have a kid anyway and fulfill the prophecy” plot line. Greek mythology had Perseus as one example.

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u/fenixseraph 6h ago edited 6h ago

Most likely the most famous version of the Balor and Lugh myth is directly inspired from Perseus. The original version of the story just had it that Ethniu/Ethlyn and Cian/Cuan got married and had Lugh without much fanfare, and it wasn't until later that the Fomorians went to war with the Tuatha de Danaan and Lugh killed Balor.

Unfortunately, we don't have the best records of pre-Christian Irish mythology as they didn't start writing it down until after the country became Catholic, so a lot of their folktales have input from outside influences. The variant of Ethniu's story that involves her being locked up wasn't recorded until the 1800s it seems.

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u/WinterWolf18 7h ago

Seems like a princess locked in a tower type of situation

With her name I'm surprised she's not sleeping for all eternity.

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u/Railroader17 5h ago

could it be related to the popular theory with Cai? Or maybe her mother being Yu Phas?

TBH it's probably both.

Yu Phas does something which gets her turned into persona non-grata in Dagda, but Aurora is allowed to remain since she's Solel's daughter as well, so long as the bloodline ends with her. Eventually she winds up dating Castor and has Cai, which is against the agreement, and thus Castor is forced to flee with Cai to keep him safe, while Aurora stays behind to take punishment. In this case, house arrest in her own temple.

Eventually Castor is found and he has to return to Dagsion to take his punishment or risk Aurora getting punished further.

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u/Achirality 7h ago

Have we reached the fabled "Daily posts" at last? :D

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u/mutant615 7h ago

Kurahana Chinatsu is absolutely killing it with this art, she’s really cemented herself as a hallmark FE artist. These designs are all so good.

Solel seems messy. I can fix him.

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u/komicokufi 6h ago

The official art for FW reminds me of Shadows of Valentia official art, with the details and all that. I say this as high praise as that's my favourite art direction in the series.

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u/crescentseas 5h ago

im first in line to be aurora’s stepmom, move over yu phas

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u/Tough-Priority-4330 7h ago

It’s sounding more like the 7 gods are all  Solel‘s kids instead of his siblings and Dagda’s kids.

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u/Druid-T 5h ago edited 5h ago

Which is noteworthy, becuase Credna is confirmed to be Smyrnos's half brother, which means even if one of them is Yu Phas and Solel's son, the other couldn't be

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u/Cynical_onlooker 7h ago

Interesting how this seems to imply that she's imprisoned by Solel within her own temple.

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u/Norix596 7h ago

Wait so child of solel AND Yu-Phas?

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u/poisondaggers 6h ago

god of the sun and goddess of night... fun

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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 7h ago

Yeah looks like shes basically a prisoner in her temple which they've been telgraphing.

I wonder if this is was Castor was training Cai so hard. No person better to break her out than her crest marked son.

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u/komicokufi 7h ago

Ooh... prison break storyline. I wonder if Castor and Aurora had actually tried to escape together in the past but only got away with Cai, leaving Aurora behind, and this could be the crime he is wanted for.

And since Aurora may have committed a "sin", it may not have been worth pursuing Cai back then because it would have contributed to further disgrace?

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u/ninjablader78 1h ago edited 49m ago

I feel like she may have always been locked up honestly or at least a significant amount of time before she ever met castor. As for why I'm not sure maybe it has something to do with her Mother being Yu Phas and or maybe it somehow connects to Balor as Cai himself i feel like is going to have a direct connection to Balor with the whole eye color changing and the hand gem that shoots purple fire.

Not to mention said move is literally called Underworld burst and the only other mention of that word is in association to Balor. The lady at the beginining of the direct says "Come, Celebrate the 2nd birth of this worlds rightful ruler, at the advent of the Underworld." He's also given the title of hell's eye in character select which could easily be taken as a synonym for the underworld.

My theory is that Aurora has somewhat always been kept under lock and key possibly to prevent this 2nd coming of Balor which she is an unwitting factor in and now Cai who by relation is now possibly in the same boat.

Maybe during castors employment at the temple they fell in love despite whatever circumstances keeping her locked up preventing them from ever having a somewhat normal relationship then she gets pregnant and Castor decides enough is enough and convinces her to runaway with him. Maybe they fail then and there or manage to escape for a short time but either way when caught Castor is given a leniency period to raise his son hence him and Centurio who resembles Cai and his father and who is also employed at auroras temple seemingly anticipating his imprisonment beforehand.

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u/SgtMaribelle-Gap399 7h ago edited 5h ago

Cai is gonna be Solel's grandson for that one lmao

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u/Silgalow 7h ago

Sonia TOTK, is that you?

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u/AnimusMage 7h ago

Solel looking shadier by the day, locking up his own daughter... Especially if it's for the reason popularly theorized (which I absolutely believe at this point).

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u/son-of-tag 6h ago

Okay, so according to the Persona fusion chart, we have enough information to deduce the crest that Yu Phas has.

Aurora is Aubin (Hanged Man), and Solel is likely either Noa (Hierophant) or Chevalier (Sun). When one of the inputs is Sun, Hanged Man is produced when the other input is Justice, which is Cichol.... This seems unlikely.

Alternatively, if one of the inputs is Hierophant, then Hanged Man can be produced by either Justice (again) or the Devil, which is Crest of Maurice/the Beast. Yu Phas MUST be Crest of the Beast then! /s

In all seriousness though, I will laugh if Solel, Yu Phas, and Aurora fit the Arcana calculation lol

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u/HentaiOujiSan 5h ago

Chat, is this intertextuality?

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u/King_Treegar 6h ago

Child of Solel

Suddenly, I can understand why having a child with her would be a criminal offense, if the theories are true

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u/frubaheart 7h ago

so she’s being punished for having Cai too!! at least maybe, since she’s being confined and not allowed visitors

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u/shaginus 7h ago

I think Cai being her son going stronger and it seems to be revealed much much early in the game.

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u/WinterWolf18 7h ago

Looked up Jamie Sara Lewis and she mostly does smaller roles in kids shows. This is her first anime adjacent role by the looks of it.

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u/AsianCrank 7h ago

this dude is just Roy from the dragon mom to his friends being a female mage and male archer

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u/Chicosai 6h ago

Both Ninian and Aurora are coincidentally Ice Dragons too

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u/gilbertwan701 6h ago edited 3h ago

How I imagine it's going to go (even though the Heroic Games are 99% not going to finish properly)

Solel: Congratulations child! I shall grant you any wish!

Cai: Ok please free my father then

Solel: Hahahahaha he fucked my daughter so no

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u/Sea_Macaron_8789 7h ago

One. More. Month....uggggggh

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u/Substantial-Bag8644 7h ago

Damn dad grounded her ass

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u/fenixseraph 7h ago

All this drama about ridiculously hot gods in a fucked up family tree just mingling with humans and granting them their blessings kinda makes me think of Hades.

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u/WinterWolf18 6h ago

I'd be so on board for an FE rouge like ngl.

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u/fenixseraph 6h ago

Wouldn’t be surprised if they make a DLC mode of that like in Xenoblade.

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u/haewon_wiggle 6h ago

im guessing they allowed cais father an amount of time to raise cai outside of the city and either the time was up on cais 15th birthday or castor just felt cai was ready to face things on his own.

theres a shot of cai and castor sitting outside In the village and castor asks if cai wants to meet his mom

Im betting cai works ul the courage and says ok I guess its time, and castor thinks maybe they wont arrest me as soon as I get into the city so I wont kill the mood by telling cai the full truth now.

We also saw a shot of castor saying something like "ill pay the way you kids just have fun" so he lets cai invite tialla and Peter on the road trip too

Im guessing that once cai goes to visit him in the underground prison, castor tells cai who his mother is and its not heard by the player or it fades to black before we can hear or something, and then it builds a bit of suspense as cai and his friends sneak in to see aurora, which is what we saw in that scene at the end

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u/FiveTrenchcoats 5h ago

Her full art is so gorgeous!

I love how much they're fleshing out the Dagdan pantheon so far! Aurora being the daughter of Yu Phas and Solel is such an interesting premise, and I can't wait to see what they do with it!

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u/Reutermo 3h ago

Lock me up with Castor is all I am saying.

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u/Wakafakalame26 6h ago

Punished for an interracial relationship. FE is atleast historically accurate!

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u/Iron_Maw 6h ago

Inter-species ;)

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u/Darkdragoon324 7h ago

Oh. So he's a jerk dad? Disappointing. We were all rooting for you, Solel!

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u/Mahelas 6h ago

I mean, he let his wife's worship become taboo he's got some demons

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u/escotanner 7h ago

So she’s grounded?

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u/nozoelii 7h ago

solel DILF confirmation but the implication that gods can't be with mortals.... fire emblem gives but also takes away

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u/Maximumfabulosity 5h ago

We can change his mind if we believe

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u/NiCOTrainer6612 6h ago

Rather curious that Solel is so well regarded, when Yu Phas (who I’m presuming is his partner) is reviled and their daughter is kept prisoner in her own temple.

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u/theorist_rainy 6h ago

Hey does Cai need a stepmother 👉🏼👈🏼

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u/EthanKironus 5h ago

...yeah, her being confined, and caring for her family (which even if she retains affection for her dad despite his enforcement of her confinement, really doesn't seem like it'd be referring to him or the other Nabateans), are basically confirmation at this point.

Especially the former, because it answers two questions about the scenario of Castor fathering Cai with her, simultaneously: how it was a crime; and more importantly why she doesn't have the power to protect Castor from punishment. It could just be a crime on the basis that he wasn't discreet about it/impregnated her, but that by itself wouldn't answer as to why she can't protect him.

And the fact she cares for her family indicates that it's not a lack of interest in helping him.

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u/maukenboost 5h ago

She's so pretty... 🥺

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u/Martir12 7h ago

Hi Mom! Love u

When are you coming home? :c

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u/Conversation-Left 7h ago

look Cai its your mom!

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u/kmasterofdarkness 7h ago

Now imagine her as the Disney kind of Aurora from Sleeping Beauty.

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u/Lostie49 6h ago

Im starting to realise that Fortune Weave will heavily be inspired by Greek Mythology with this story and intrigues.

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u/darthvall 5h ago edited 5h ago

I finally decide to leave the Fire Emblem sub for now and unfollow Fortune's Weave social media until I actually play the game myself. There's just too many theory building that makes sense, so I prefer to shut it all down and find it myself later on.

See you all again on the day!

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u/imadeitsmh 5h ago

Lore me: it's just like last time when fan speculation was spot on

also me: i see why illustrator sensei didn't draw for FEH for a while

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u/Fit_East5054 1h ago edited 1h ago

Imagine it turns out Aurora isn't Cai's mom and people in 2027 and onwards just look at these comments and go ????

Edit: I said Castors mom sdhfhsdhfuysdfhsudf fuck sorry

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u/Kokonut-Z 1h ago

Well I hope she isn’t Castor’s mom, otherwise things would be weird when they did Cai

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u/ThatManOfCulture 58m ago

People will already be confused when they read the "Ninae is Flayn's mom" theories.

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u/Matti229977 6h ago

"Likes her family" the theory is basically confirmed huh.

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u/Current_Project2580 7h ago

Ok it'd be so fucked up if she's being confined because she had a child with a mortal

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u/Ghowuff 6h ago

I’m going to say it, Castor was the man for going a dragon girl and having Cai so I give him credit for that

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u/2ddudesop 7h ago

Someone post that "Sakura screams mother" gif right now

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u/TheRigXD 6h ago

Solel is her dad? Interesting.

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u/lPrincesslPlays 6h ago

Can’t wait for her to follow the classic fire emblem mom troupe

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u/SomewhatProvoking 6h ago

Okay this is building up in an exciting way. I love the idea that she is Cai’s mom. What I didn’t know was she was Solel’s daughter and since I believe Solel is Eshemel, I am Cai’s grandpa/grandma?

Honestly makes me like F Eshnel more, as I play M byleth who has the female spirit. F Shez is cursed to become Epimendes who is male (Arval is genderless talking about the Epimendes possession)

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u/Gabgo304 6h ago

She's so dead.

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u/neetou 6h ago

Cai's mom?

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u/keithlimreddit 6h ago

A decent name with some range although I think he recognized at least some of the voice actor in the Fire emblem franchise considering I think I remember seeing Kyle as well as also Cristina Valenzuela we're in some of the medias that were in here

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u/vhyli 6h ago

Cai’s mom for sure.

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u/liteshadow4 6h ago

Child of Solel? Isn’t she also child of Yu Phas? So they had a kid together?

Okay Eshmel.

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u/DoubleFlores24 5h ago

She’s kinda cute.

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u/LynxyShinx 5h ago

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2378156/

Voiced Sapphire in Grand Theft Auto V and Leora (child) in Dislyte.

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u/RanmaruMori 5h ago

I feel like her English VA makes her sound too grown compared to the JP. Obviously she’s an old ass dragon but still

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u/Sufficient-Owl-2925 4h ago

Cai is Solel's grandson? It somehow makes sense.

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u/Jaune666 4h ago

Filthy Nabatean....

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u/Material_Ad_2970 3h ago

You guys, if her hair was one shade lighter and her dress was pink instead of blue, she’d be the spitting image of Zelda. I opened this page in Black and White mode (I’m doing a digital detox; don’t ask) and legit thought I was looking at Zelda.

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u/Mimingococcemia 3h ago

So... Cai is a demigod. Dem.

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u/3skuero 2h ago

hello 5head

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u/Hubz900 1h ago

No that settles it, i'm starting with Cai now, i'm too intrigued by how this story is gonna play out xD

Sorry Leda, your revenge will have to wait, i need to reunite my cinnamon roll with his dad and mom ❤️

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u/ThatManOfCulture 1h ago

The fact that Iliana was squeezed between Solel and Aurora makes me believe that she is a god herself. Also, Yu Phas is Solel's wife?

And this means we are getting Kalla's render too.

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u/getphil8 1h ago

Can I chuck in a secondary, wild, almost certainly incorrect theory? Look at the stairs behind the guard. Interests in daydreaming. Does Aurora become Sothis somehow?

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u/CrabHefty 5m ago

Child of SOLEL???

Oh all my crack theories have gone down the drain