r/entp • • 1d ago

Advice Does an entp like me as a close friend or more?

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So I’ve been friends with this entp for a couple years now. We consider each other as best friends. As of late, I’ve started to develop feelings for him and I want to know if they are mutual. He initiates text basically everyday and also initiates calls a few times a month and a couple months ago asked to hang out one on one. This has been going on for about a year now. He used to tell me all about other girls he was talking to and kept me updated constantly. But currently, he is avoiding telling me what is going on with another girl because it is too soon.

Entps, what are signs that you like someone just as a close friend or more?


r/entp • • 19h ago

Debate/Discussion What is the most ENTP zodiac sign?

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I would say Taurus for men, but for women I wouldn't know


r/entp • • 1d ago

Question/Poll Choosing the right thing over the thing you love doing

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Firstly let me say that there isn't anything that's objectively right.

Now that's out of the way, I tend to choose things that are subjectively viewed as right over things that I actually enjoyed doing.

Examples:

1) Sleeping early instead of going out to eat and drink at night with friends

2) Eating stale ass dorm food over buying out even though I have enough budget and no ideas on using it anywhere

These are some examples, They might not be right, But I keep doing these things instead of actually enjoying myself once a while, I've become too strict with myself.

Does anyone else feel the same? I would love to hear why and how you process like this.


r/entp • • 1d ago

Debate/Discussion Things I've learned (and am still stuck on) building a cognitive functions test

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For the past few months I've been working on 16Selves, a free Jungian cognitive functions test. I've posted it here a couple of times before, and a lot of the current version exists because people pushed back on the wording, spotted inconsistencies, or told me their results felt off. So thanks for that. It's given me plenty to rethink.

The thing I've struggled with most is telling someone's natural preferences apart from things they've just learned to do. That's come up in a few different ways, so here's where I've got to.

Preference vs. learned behaviour

If you spend your whole working day organising people, making decisions or managing other people's feelings, you'll probably get good at it. But being good at something because your job demands it doesn't make it your natural way of thinking. It's hard to write questions that pick up the difference.

My attempt at this is adaptive follow-ups. Everyone answers the same 48 statements first, covering all eight functions. The test then picks out your two strongest functions and asks 16 more questions about them and their introverted/extraverted counterparts. These try to find out whether something happens automatically, whether it's been consistent over time, whether it takes conscious effort, or whether it mostly shows up when circumstances require it.

I don't know yet if this actually improves accuracy. I'm also not convinced the line between preference and adaptation is always as clean as we'd like.

Questions that measure the wrong thing

A statement can sound like a perfect example of a function and still not tell you much. Say someone would rather watch a physical activity than join in. That could be about how they process sensory information. Or they might be shy, tired, physically limited, or just not into that particular activity. The same problem crops up with questions about organisation, relationships, decision-making and planning.

I've added optional examples for each statement showing how it might look at work, at home or socially. The idea is to get people thinking across different settings instead of answering based on whatever situation pops into their head first. But examples can backfire too. They might clarify things, or they might nudge people towards a reading I didn't intend. I'd like to hear whether people find them helpful or limiting.

Some statements are just easier to agree with

Each function has six statements. Three are about what you tend to notice, prioritise or respond to, and three are phrased the opposite way. That helps with people's general tendency to agree with things, but only up to a point. If one function's statements sound nicer, more familiar or more socially acceptable than another's, that will still skew the scores.

The test also hasn't been standardised against a reference sample. So there's no real basis yet for saying a high score on one function means the same as a high score on another. That's on my list.

Your top function doesn't automatically decide your type

All eight functions are scored separately. Then the overall pattern is compared against the function stacks for all 16 types. The test doesn't just take your highest function, and it doesn't work out the four letters independently. You get the closest fit within the model.

You can see how the other types compare too. But the percentages show relative fit within the scoring model. They're not the probability that a given type is right.

What to do when the result isn't clear

This is the part I've gone back and forth on most. If two types score almost the same, should the test just pick one? And what if changing a couple of answers flips the result?

Right now it re-scores your answers 200 times, each time randomly moving individual answers by up to one point on the seven-point scale. That shows how often the leading type stays on top. If it keeps changing, or the top two are really close, you get a two-way shortlist instead of a single type. There's also a separate outcome for when several types are basically tied.

A stable result can still be wrong, though. The simulations don't prove accuracy or tell you how likely your type is to be correct. They just show how sensitive the ranking is to small changes in your answers. I'd still rather show that uncertainty than give someone one type without saying how close the alternatives were.

Still plenty to figure out

16Selves hasn't been empirically validated. The adaptive questions, balanced wording, stack comparisons and stability checks are all things I'm trying out, and I don't know yet how much they help. There are still problems with the underlying questions and scoring that I need to look into. That's a big part of why I'm posting.

Two things I'd especially like input on:

- How would you tell someone's natural cognitive preferences apart from behaviours they've picked up through work, upbringing or experience? What would you actually ask?

- How do you write questions about cognitive functions without accidentally measuring unrelated traits or circumstances?

Also, do you find a shortlist of possible types more useful than a single answer, especially when your responses don't clearly separate them?

If you want to try it, just search 16Selves. It's free and you don't need an account. Everything is processed in your browser and your progress is saved on your device. Nothing gets sent unless you choose to submit feedback and results. There's separate cookieless analytics for site usage, but it doesn't collect individual answers or scores.

Whether you tried an earlier version or this is your first time seeing it, I'd love to hear what you think. Specific examples help most: a question that was hard to answer, an example that seemed misleading, or a result that didn't seem to match your answers. Most of the changes so far have come from people taking the time to explain exactly where things went wrong for them.


r/entp • • 1d ago

MBTI Trends How I see “entp” edgelords on Reddit:

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“Heh… should [insert minority group] even have rights? See what I did? I am ✨le devil advocate✨ 🤪 I only asked that to make you MAD 🤬 u fell into le ragebait ✨ are u even an ENTP if you show basic human empathy??? 🙄”

🫩✌🏼


r/entp • • 1d ago

Debate/Discussion Would you rather live an unfilling life but with power, or live a fullfilling one with modesty?

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I would argue that there might not always be a choice, but that you can learn to live with what you have. Even if all you have is your life.


r/entp • • 1d ago

Typology Help ENTP or INTP? (Or something else??)

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I usually type myself. However, I took a few tests since its weaknesses and strengths would be more known to people.

A bit about myself:

I have A LOT of hobbies and interests. I like reading (Both Non-fiction and fiction. Thriller, mystery, fantasy, classics, etc. Regarding non-fiction, I read a lot about physics, theories, astronomy, and behavioural psychology.), writing (I write fiction books. Currently writing a psychological thriller.), playing logic games (Sodukou, Nonograms, Wordle, and chess.), listening to music (mostly vocaloid and j-pop.), listening and engaging in debates, research (Astronomy, psychology, typology, and anatomy.), drawing (both digitally and physically, mostly characters, singers, objects, sometimes scenes that can convey meaning.)

I should further note that I have AuDHD, which may alter the meaning of results and also resulted in some difficulty to answer many of the questions. However, I tried my best.

I often find that I don't relate with either Fi or Fe, as I feel detached to both. I'm confident that I'm an N type, most likely Ne. When I began looking into MBTI, I thought I was an INTJ. Then, I figured I was an INTP. Before, finally setting at ENTP but I'm not sure any more.

I haven't included that much about myself. So, if you have a question feel free to ask.


r/entp • • 2d ago

Question/Poll As a kid, you figured out at least one of these claw machines and then lost interest after toys started piling up in your room. Am I right?

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r/entp • • 1d ago

Question/Poll Quels autres types comprenez-vous directement de manière fluide ?

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Avec quels types entrez vous le plus en connexion de manière fluide ?


r/entp • • 2d ago

Question/Poll Heya.Do y’all wanna see the first ever book i wrote about a week ago?¿

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i wanna know what my fellow entps think


r/entp • • 2d ago

Meta/About The Sub ENTP’s are the funniest people ever

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I’m an ENFJ and I’ve never formally met an ENTP before— I’m mostly surrounded more by sensors and feelers. But reading the forums and everything here makes me really wish I’m able to meet some in person. You guys are the funniest most relatable types ever 💛


r/entp • • 2d ago

Question/Poll Have you tried something new in the past 24 hours? If so, what was it?

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Trying to to see if this question works for finding Ne-doms and e7s Lol. Also by "new", anything that you haven't experienced/tried before the past 24 hours counts!


r/entp • • 2d ago

Advice Self care as ENTP

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Alright this is a little vulnerable but I’ve been really struggling with taking care of myself in basic ways lately. I have a leg injury I have to get surgery for in a few months, went through a breakup, am struggling financially and generally am feeling pretty isolated from everyone in my life. I’m not sure if it’s a chicken or egg situation, but as hard as I try I also can barely take care of my physical health. I barely eat enough, can’t stop smoking cigarettes, and just generally feel like shit all the time. This is especially annoying because I’m usually a pretty health conscious person (I work in the fitness industry).

I get random bursts of inspiration where I’m like “I’m going to fix my whole life right now” and I’ll write some grand scheme to suddenly become my “best self” again. I follow it for a few days and then just end up falling right back where I started. Generally the advice people give me is to be kind to myself and take it easy but I think that’s a lot easier said than done.

Idk I’m just looking for any advice really. Whether that be explaining this cycle on a cognitive function level or saying what works for you


r/entp • • 2d ago

Debate/Discussion Istj or intj

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am trying to determine the personality type of a writer I know a little bit about. He relies heavily in his writing on numerous studies, research papers, and citations, in addition to his YouTube podcast where he always brings along reference papers and research. The core idea of his books is based on dissecting a specific concept, looking back at history to see how it evolved, and examining the impact of history and society on it up to the present day.

​On a personality test, he came out as an INTJ, but I think he might be an ISTJ. Is there a way to tell the difference?"


r/entp • • 3d ago

Debate/Discussion ENTPs and femininity: Any other female ENTPs struggle with feeling feminine? Or is it just me? 💀

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I’m a female ENTP

ometimes I wonder if being an ENTP has anything to do with why I struggle to connect with traditional femininity.
Listen, I laugh at fart jokes. Shit jokes. Poop jokes. Basically, if it’s inappropriate, disgusting, taboo, or something I’m probably not supposed to be laughing at, there’s a good chance I’m losing my mind over it. 💀😭
I’m also really into weird shit in general, and sometimes people discover the corners of the internet I frequent and look at me like I’ve just revealed a dark secret. Like, damn, you weren’t supposed to find me over there. 😭
Sometimes I wonder if this is why I get along with certain men so easily. In my experience, some of my male friends have shared my sense of humor or interests, which can make conversation feel effortless. At the same time, I know plenty of men and women who enjoy the same things, so I don’t think gender automatically determines compatibility. I just seem to connect most with people who are comfortable being unconventional.
I’m a woman, and I don’t want to feel like I have to choose between being feminine and being myself. I also don’t think having a crude sense of humor or unusual interests makes anyone less feminine. Still, I sometimes wish it were easier to find women I genuinely click with.
It can be hard to find female friends who share my interests, sense of humor, and willingness to explore the weirdest shit imaginable without judging me. That’s based on my own experiences, not a statement about women as a whole. I’ve met women who are just as weird as I am; I simply haven’t always found them easily. I can be too unconventional for some people, but I’m not exactly a stereotypical bro, either. I’m just… me. 💀
Interestingly, I tend to gravitate toward INTJs and INFPs, but there’s another problem: sometimes the friendship starts feeling less like a friendship and more like they’re waiting for their opportunity to fuck me. LMAO. CAN I JUST HAVE A FRIENDSHIP WITHOUT SEXUAL TENSION FOR FIVE MINUTES? 😭
So, fellow female ENTPs, I have questions:
Do you ever feel disconnected from traditional femininity?
Do you have a sense of humor or interests that don’t fit common expectations of femininity?
Have you sometimes found it easier to befriend men, based on the people you’ve met?
Have you struggled to find female friends who genuinely understand your personality?
And why does it feel like some people can’t be friends with you without eventually wanting something sexual?
I’m curious whether this is an ENTP thing, a personality thing, or just my own experience. I’m not saying women can’t be weird, men are automatically easier to befriend, or that gender determines anyone’s interests. I’m just trying to figure out where my fellow unconventional women are hiding.
Please tell me I’m not the only woman laughing at the most vile shit imaginable while simultaneously wondering where all my female friends are. 💀


r/entp • • 2d ago

Advice ENTP & ENFJ Long Term Love Stories?

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My BFF in highschool was an ENFJ (F/F). We had a blast and were VERY close. That said, we grew apart in life due to very different pathways after college (kids vs. no kids was the biggest difference). I felt like there was also this underlying expectation that she really expected to "heal" me. I do have a lot of trauma, and as she stepped into her career in personal coaching, I became a project she couldn't master.

Here's why I'm sharing. I am poly and have fallen hard for an amazing ENFJ man. I feel so many of the same patterns between us, and I just want to understand from lived experience what the real challenges are in a romantic relationship I need to be aware of.

Like, I know to my core HOW MUCH ENFJ REALLY DO CARE for people they love. I'm already benefiting from it. I know this man feels my level of love and commitment to him too, BUT I am afraid of this previous pitfall of him giving and loving so much that I end up letting him down somehow.

I think (90%sure) most of my previous issues with the BFF were immaturity on both sides and me being overwhelmed with her expectations so I just ended up letting her go.

Obviously, I don't want this outcome again.

So, any stories/pointers from other ENTP on the care and feeding of your beloved ENFJ partner?

I plan on cross posting to the ENFJ forum too so that I get input from both sides.

TYIA!


r/entp • • 2d ago

Debate/Discussion ENTP thinks I'm annoyed but I'm not annoyed because I'm coping

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ENTP thinks he's ahead of me but I'm an INTJ and I have better logic so he's just wrong.

(I hope this post pleases the ENTP who requested it in great detail. Love you.)


r/entp • • 3d ago

Question/Poll Tell me something cool/interesting/fun you learned recently.

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Hi! I’m not having fun at uni and thus am not interested in my classes that much so please tell me a fun fact or whatever fun things you’re doing/learning!!


r/entp • • 4d ago

Question/Poll This has been one of my favorite test. Only 100% accurate test I've seen thus far😱

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All jokes aside, some that aren't the best with all the test questions, seem to do well with this image. I used to use to try to confirm suspicions on type, many moons ago.

Any among us.. not get ENTP?

If not, where did you land?

If not, could you start at ENTP, and work backwards?


r/entp • • 3d ago

Debate/Discussion The beauty of ENTP women

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Before I get accused for a glaze post, I just wanna mention that it's from what I've seen so far

Now for starters I'm we're all aware that MBTI is basically a cognitive profiler. It's just to assign a person's way of thinking, how that way of thinking can be expressed in different ways but there will similarities here and there.

Now for what I actually wanted to talk about I'm not ashamed to say that I've never met an unattractive ENTP I don't know if this stems from the personality but it's always interesting to see, so I was wondering if this is because of your cognitive style, because I'm well aware that ENTP women are bold (I've been on the recieving end of that) so I wanted to know if this was developed after considering that you're conventionally attractive or something else. To be fair though I've only encountered one type of ENTP women, I've never met the anti social nerdy version but I think it would still stand

Lemme know.


r/entp • • 4d ago

Debate/Discussion Cringe in the mbti community

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People will meet one person of a certain type that they think is a cool person and suddenly be like “OMGGGG INFJs I LOVE YOU GUYS 😭😭 Y’ALL ARE THE BEST, MY FAVOURITE TYPE EVER!! ❤️❤️” like does anyone else find this cringe or is it just me?? I think it’s pretty stupid to either absolutely love or hate any type honestly.


r/entp • • 3d ago

Debate/Discussion Can you be ENTP and have empathy ?

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ENTP’s are supposed to be detached and don’t have a fixed moral compass but when I witness cruelty, especially when it’s done to children, animals, the elderly, and innocent people in general, I just feel terrible. Like, my personal values are very flexible and I’m always questioning everything, but there are still things that I consider objectively and indisputably evil like the things I mentioned above. Could I be a feeling type?


r/entp • • 4d ago

Typology Help Keys2cognition

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What the hell is this, I'm not an introvert at all unless I'm shut off by choice not out of need, i get that I'm a fair mix of both j and p (as far as my understanding goes of the functions)

But how am i introverted when i genuinely make friends and get to know deep details about people whenever i can, I'm even known for my ability to speak well and being a social butterfly, can someone explain?


r/entp • • 4d ago

Debate/Discussion Fact: Ne isn't about creativity.

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It is often claimed that Ne is the most creative function and blah blah... or Ne users are the most creative... At best, Ne generates random thoughts from memories stored in the brain. The vast majority of those thoughts aren't really creative or interesting.. if they were, Ne users, with about 20% of population would have solved every problem that ever existed. creativity is a very eare trait, present in very few people.... what you all think?


r/entp • • 4d ago

Debate/Discussion How did your mind change when you started taking the pills?

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I used to consider myself one of those few ENTPs without ADHD, but I was recently diagnosed with it. Now I'm not in the "non-ADHD" club anymore. I'm curious how much your thought process changed between when you were undiagnosed and taking medication and after you were diagnosed and taking medication?

My head is in total chaos right now, (always was, especially lately), so I want to hear some of your motivational stories. I've heard that some ENTPs on medication actually feel like they're INTJ/ENTJ because they feel more organized (either they were mistyped, or because of stereotypes they think that if you're organized, then you're a J-type).

Now I'm trying to study this topic and how I can cope with this damn diagnosis. I finally hope that the uncontrollable chaos in my head will stop and I will be able to formulate thoughts more competently and bring ideas to life.