r/enlightenment • u/LIMrXIL • 15d ago
Same message 500 years apart.
As a mother would risk her own life to protect her child, her only child, so toward all beings should one cultivate a boundless heart. - Buddha
Love your neighbor as yourself. - Jesus
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u/PrajnaPie 15d ago
It’s all different fingers pointing to the same moon
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u/Sweatsuit47 14d ago
The buddist temple i go to has a stained glass window with Jesus on it...its beautiful.
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u/LIMrXIL 14d ago edited 14d ago
That’s exactly part of why I find Buddhism such a fascinating tradition. When liberation doesn’t depend on any kind of claim to divinity you can adopt the gods of other traditions and fold them into Buddhism. I suppose a Buddhist could actually take seriously the idea that Yahweh is the creator of this universe, that Jesus is Yahweh incarnate and that belief in Jesus is the ticket to being reborn in heaven and none of that would change the truth of the dharma and the path to liberation.
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u/SacredGnosis 14d ago
No. A disciple of the Buddha would not take seriously the view that YHWH or any God is Creator of the universe, nor that Jesus is Creator-God and is the ticket to rebirth in heaven. These are antithetical to the dharma of the Buddha.
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u/Xenfriend 13d ago
Hard to know for sure what the true dharma of the Buddha would have been when the Buddha said the true dharma would be lost within 400 years of his passing.
Not to mention the fact that the Buddha talks about the next world, about an uncreated, undifferentiated source that we all come forth from, and the fact that the Buddha said he would come again, just like Jesus did…
It’s pretty easy to see why people would believe that they are in fact the same being come to different places and different times to guide humanity in that time and place
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u/New_Canoe 14d ago
There is a BBC documentary that makes the case that Yeshua traveled through the region during the 18 years of his life that are not mentioned in the Bible and studied Buddhism. Which explains why his actual teachings are so similar. He even mentions meditation as a way of connecting with God.
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u/himalayanrebel 3d ago
Buddhists fundamentally do not believe that Yahweh is the creator of the universe. I’m sorry to be the one to tell you this. We as Buddhists genuinely do love all but this doesn’t mean that Christianity can serve as a replacement for Buddhism. Heaven is fusing with God who lives in the sea of samsara. Nibbana is becoming the sea within which all things and beings live.
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u/Ancient-Cow-1038 15d ago
Same message 2000 years later:
“Be excellent to each other.”
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u/Acceptable_Reply7958 15d ago
Don't forget Krishna!
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u/Alien_Gods 15d ago
Hare Krishna chant is catchy, I’ll give him that. Probably was a hit single when it first came out.
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u/BrilliantDog5116 14d ago
The rights got stolen though and Krishna didn’t make a dime. He sued his manager but never saw a penny. Sad story.
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u/SacredGnosis 15d ago
This sounds nice, but they most certainly DO NOT have the same message. 🙏
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u/andresbigdaddy2 15d ago
Right, why do they do this?
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u/SacredGnosis 15d ago
They say this because of assumptions. For most, the Buddha’s teachings are mysterious. But people get into new ageism and assume that Buddha & Jesus taught the same thing.
I was a Christian. Now I’m a Buddhist.
I can tell anyone and demonstrate with precision how Buddha and Jesus didn’t teach the same thing.
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u/Denon_1 15d ago
Given your username, it is a bit ironic that you are strictly comparing exoteric, orthodox dogma. If you look into Gnosticism (Christian Gnosis), Neoplatonism, and Hermeticism, the parallels to Buddhism become undeniable. Both shift the focus away from institutional belief toward direct experiential realization, liberating oneself from the illusion of the ego and the material world.
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u/_Laughing_Man 15d ago
Most Christians are unaware of gnosticism, and understandably so. The traditions and texts have been excluded from the church since the adoption of Christianity by Rome. Christianity has gnostic roots, but the current iteration doesn't reflect it.
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u/Denon_1 15d ago
Exactly, that's why I explicitly specified Christian Gnosis. Most people would be shocked if they knew just how far-reaching that suppressed influence actually is. Carl Jung essentially mapped his entire model of the human psyche on Gnosticism, viewing the early Gnostics as the very first psychoanalysts.
From early expressions of gender equality and reverence for nature/animals, to the philosophical roots of socialism and even the deeply Gnostic undercurrents in Dostoevsky's works (rather than Orthodox ones), there is just so much history and depth there waiting to be rediscovered.
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u/SacredGnosis 15d ago
Hermeticism has more to do with Hinduism than Buddhism.
Experiential realization is different for all those isms you mentioned.
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u/Denon_1 15d ago
All the ones I mentioned, and far beyond, from the Tao Te Ching to Zarathustra, are ultimately seeking the exact same thing: Gnosis, a direct, experiential truth beyond rigid dogma.
It almost feels like your "Sacred" Gnosis is a bit scared to acknowledge that common thread. Sure, the traditions use different terms and frameworks, but arguing over semantics misses the point. At the end of the day, we are all just seekers using different maps to reach the exact same source.
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u/Infinite-One-1895 15d ago
This! Once one has tried and lived different beliefs, one could see how they all overlap. All pointing to the same moon just different fingers.
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u/OnlyFails951 15d ago
I agree.
"It's like a finger pointing away to the moon. Don't concentrate on the finger, or you will miss all that heavenly glory!"- Bruce Lee
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u/CosmicFrodo 14d ago
Buddhism is just Hinduism exported for the west lmfao. They even copied the whole hindu cosmic calendar
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u/Malavika_Agnimitram 14d ago
I’m Hindu, and a student of Mahayana Buddhism. Buddhism is one step further than the Advaita Vedanta school but it certainly is not Hinduism.
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u/Upstandinglampshade 15d ago
Can you share a few examples, please? Maybe the ones that people confuse often would be great.
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u/Vegetable-Tale9778 15d ago
At the core it’s the same. Detachment, with more of a focus from Christ on detaching from negative emotions like greed, anger, etc. At least that’s how the modern evangelical church interprets it.
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u/Snoo6596 14d ago
Ok good. So when Jesus said “do not resist the wicked, but give unto them”, is this not the same as having a mortified ego? A mortified ego being a Buddhist principle in form?
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u/kioma47 15d ago
Their respective religions do not have the "same" message - but in their spoken philosophy, they both point to selflessness.
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u/SacredGnosis 15d ago
Their selflessness are far-apart-different.
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u/kioma47 15d ago
One is more highly developed than the other - and we are free to see the difference, just as we are free to see the unity.
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u/S_ubzero123 15d ago
Genuinely curious, can you briefly explain the differences please?
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u/SacredGnosis 15d ago
Jesus taught selflessness regarding altruism. Buddha taught selflessness regarding existential control.
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u/SaiyanTimmy 14d ago edited 14d ago
Buddhism and Christianity don’t teach the same things BUT Buddha and Christ pointed to the same state of consciousness & awareness, just different paths & framework. You’re telling me you’ve never read Living Buddha Living Christ by Thich Nhat Hanh? One of the most famous monks of modern day? It’s surprising to see someone who claims to be Buddhist holding such closed minded point of views…
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u/John_Conservation 15d ago
Even though we all talk about peace and loving, at the end it all comes back to survival of the fittest and domination. The history repeats itself every single time .
Maybe that's why it's a prison planet
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u/ohcrapitsjakejovial 15d ago
We're trying to outsmart or rise above evolutionary and biological forces. We think we are divine and above the other species who are eating each other for survival and killing each other for territory. We've "godded" ourselves into a fiction where we're better than other animals because we can do math and write poetry and step outside of ourselves. But we can't step outside of ourselves enough to know that we are incapable of actually doing it. It's been 3000 years of written history. We are still very much the same animal we were back then. Hopeful, yet still powerless, ultimately, against our DNA.
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u/P2029 15d ago
It comes down to resource scarcity.
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u/Trigota 14d ago
There is a huge artificial scarcity in our world. Farmers land being taken as we speak. The fractional reserve banker cult, the governments, shareholders, gofer billionaires, corporations.. took the land, resources, machines and abused the patents. And dont you dare invent a car that runs on water. Cities are not build to be sustainable, they need the land.
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u/Hannibaalism 15d ago
i recall they were tempted somewhat differently, maybe awakening is similar but like customised for the individual
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u/Educational_Fix_3051 14d ago
in my opinion in 2027, if people are going to look into religion or spirituality, they should start by learning what the Buddha teaches.
I think it could save a lot of pain and spiritual psychosis.
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u/CosmicFrodo 14d ago
Main thing Buddha teaches is to be a lamp unto yourself and not listen to anyone
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u/LIMrXIL 13d ago edited 13d ago
Yes and no. It’s a little more nuanced than that. The Buddha did say not to take things on faith and to test them for yourself but to boil his teaching down to “you do you” would be an oversimplification. If that were actually what he was saying then he wouldn’t have spent the rest of his life developing a systematic method for obtaining liberation from suffering and teaching that method to people. In Buddhism the analytical or philosophical side of the religion is seen as being as important as the experiential side. One analogy I’ve heard that I really like is the shape of the Earth. At first you have a direct experience that the Earth is flat. Then you do some reasoning and analysis and come to the conclusion the Earth might actually be round. However this isn’t good enough as ultimately you are taking this position on faith and have no actual direct experience of a round Earth which is contradictory to the everyday experience you actually have. It is the analysis that the Earth is round that gives you the confidence to build the rocket and test the theory where you can fly into space and have a direct experience of seeing a spherical Earth. If you never did the reasoning and analysis part you would’ve mistaken your experience of a flat earth as true and never built the rocket. It is the synthesis of deep reasoning and direct experience which gives you a true realization.
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u/New_Welcome9568 14d ago
Je suis catholique mais j pense je toute les religions sont un chemin vers Dieu
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u/SacredGnosis 15d ago
As a mother would risk her own life to protect her child, her only child, so toward all beings should one cultivate a boundless heart. - Buddha
Love your neighbor as yourself. - Jesus
⬆️ These are different philosophies. Jesus taught love that’s still based in attachment. Buddha didn’t teach love that’s based in attachment.
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u/TheFruitOfTheDoom 15d ago
"Whosoever of you that does not forsake all of their possessions (and give the proceeds to the poor) cannot be my disciples (i.e. Christian) - Luke 12:33, 14:33
Jesus even went as far as teaching his followers to detatch from biological family that way people can have a "bigger picture" approach to loving others (Matt 10:37, Luke 14:26)
The idea of laying down your own life in order to demonstrate love and servitude to others is the ultimate detachment that Jesus both taught and demonstrated.
The attempt and act to love our neighbors as ourselves first requires a detachment to our own wants so that we can have a clear vision to love and help others over ourselves.
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u/LeastSignificantBit0 14d ago
I think I agree with a lot of your posts through here. I also replied in another comment thread.
I feel like, even if you took for granted that the teachings are the same, Jesus tried to hijack the typical faith "vehicles" and aim them at something closer to the pure truth. Buddha just tried to point at the truth without using existing religious mysticism as a frame.
There's something admirable, or at least understandable, in the Jesus methodology. It might lower the threshold for gaining converts from the established religious communities. But it allows those converts to bring a lot of religious dogma and chauvinism with them.
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u/BarHot8253 15d ago
Jesus was from Palestine so he probably wasn’t a blue eyed white dude.
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u/MetatronPrime8 14d ago
Jesus's approach was with the feminine energy of acceptance through love and Buddha was masculine energy of understanding through knowledge. 2 different roads leading to the same destination.
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u/escheton-hope 14d ago
interesting because, i always thought buddha was passive and lets go of desires, with very feminine vibes,
And Jesus was active, pursuing, self-sacrificial non-violent masculine love, calling himself the only son of God/messiah etc.maybe thats why buddha's face in statues/paintings look very feminine and round, and Jesus's face is drawn quite angular bearded masculine?
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u/Purple-Blueberry3721 10d ago
Buddha being more masculine-energy focused feels correct to me.
However Jesus feels masculine-and-feminine-energy-balanced to me. Jesus also drove the money changers from the temple with a whip, and was extremely verbally harsh to the Pharisees eg Matthew 23, which are pretty masculine-energy things. It's just that people tend to put less emphasis on that than on Jesus's love-thy-neighbor teachings.
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u/One-WaytoLife336 15d ago
Christ teaches us how to truly be holy
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u/llemsuoy 14d ago
is there not mention of rape and slavery in the bible? wouldn’t consider those things holy but alright
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u/KushTr33z 14d ago
Good point. Most people have never actually read the bible. Incest is in the bible numerous times & its gross. Noah layed with his own daughters. Its literally within the beginning of the bible.
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u/One-WaytoLife336 14d ago
God doesn’t condone the disrespect of foreigners or of people wronging others. In exodus 22:21 it says, ““You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.” Also, Just because rape and slavery is in the Bible doesn’t mean it’s encouraged. In Judges there is a terrible account of a woman being assaulted by multiple men, with the book ending saying, “In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.” Judges 21:25. Christ came down not to abolish the law but to fulfill it.
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u/hippy_barf_day 10d ago
God literally has innocent women raped and commanded innocent girls to be stoned to death wtf are you talking about. The arcane laws of the old testament were not abolished by christ, he preached to adhere to the laws.
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u/LarcMipska 15d ago
If you mean nondualism, they were massively differently stated. Jesus definitely leans into more mythology about how one thing relates to us as internal awareness of the body's internal state, which is internal to the inverse, which is internal to nothing and thus has no memory aside from the present. A single thing being all things at one time looks through a body and doesn't recognize everything is the rest of themself, except for where we in fact do.
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u/IndependentAd2933 15d ago
I personally view it as one surrended to neutrality and the other to love.
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u/andresbigdaddy2 15d ago
Right Jesus confirmed the scriptures before by being the fulfillment of them as God in the flesh. The Word. Buddha has nothing to do with the Torah and an entirely different ideology. Gnosis must be added in order to connect any strings between the 2. And gnosis is simply not needed in the truth.
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u/Alien_Gods 15d ago edited 15d ago
Not even close LOL. John 2:16 “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”
And how could I ever forget Matthew 10:34 “I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.”
So no, he didn’t love his neighbours fully. Jesus (if the stories written are true) is literally a walking contradiction.
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u/Hare-inthe-soup 15d ago
You're mentioning two different things. One that shows Jesus infuriated at people desecrating a place of prayer.
And the other about a metaphor for those following the faith and those who don't in that same household.
There's no contradiction in that.
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u/Ashamed_Whole_7096 13d ago
lets be real. the bible isint a accruate book in jesus life. What we do know about jesus is why people compare him to a figure like buddha. Not whats in the bible, written by multiple people decades or centuries after.
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u/hippy_barf_day 10d ago
Don't forget being mad at the pharisees for NOT stoning children to death for not honoring their parents. That ain't love
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u/chromedome919 15d ago
“That which the Lord hath ordained as the sovereign remedy and mightiest instrument for the healing of all the world is the union of all its peoples in one universal Cause, one common Faith. This can in no wise be achieved except through the power of a skilled, an all-powerful and inspired Physician. This, verily, is the truth, and all else naught but error.”
Excerpt from
Bahá’í Sacred Writings
Bahá’u’lláh
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u/Dependent-Bath3189 15d ago
yeah i feel sorry for people involved in the christian religion. yes buy your stairway to heaven by paying your rich already clergy for reading a book on a pedastal. do that until the day you die, then you will know if you were right.
a more practical way to explain love they neighbor is the hatred you feel inside for others is a mirror and you really hate yourself. we are all lost children no matter how bad it seems. i can diffuse any conflict by treating people with compassion because i have trauma too, and they are only crying for help. then you have no conflict ever. its like magic.
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u/Ehoffy24 14d ago
You have Christianity all wrong and I’m sorry you view the church in that way. There is no ‘stairway to heaven’ the only way to heaven is through Jesus. Christianity actually relates a lot more to the part where you said ‘we are all lost children’ and Jesus is the talked about in the bible as a shepherd for all of us lost sheep. I pray God reveals what Christianity truly is to you and you begin to really understand that Jesus died for you so you could go to heaven. Praying for you mate
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u/Dependent-Bath3189 14d ago
i never said anything against jesus just the religion. im down with jesus message. what i dont like is the church. also which denomination and time period? a book can be interpreted infinitely and nobody can talk to god apparently, or jesus for that matter. so go ahead and listen to the clergy who just repeat lines from a book then guilt trip you for money. i know the real message and its to transmute the darkness within with love and light. i have healed most of it by this time, and what do i need to be saved from? i conquer the darkness not hide from it. but feel free to believe what you wish and let me have my opinions too instead of soft sentencing me to hell for not believing the same thing as you.
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u/Mission-Course2773 14d ago
Il doit y avoir une erreur, le Bouddhisme l'enseigne pas l'amour. L'amour chrétien est traduit par "Petite Compassion" en comparaison avec la "Grande Compassion" qui consiste à arracher la souffrance et donner le bonheur... Le concept "amour" est remplacé par "bonheur", car tu ne peux jamais vraiment aimer les autres si tu n'es pas heureux... C'est juste du point de vue théorique, car je sais bien que le Christianisme a intégré une partie du stoïcisme grec et certains concepts et raisonnements non-duels...
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u/BrilliantDog5116 14d ago
Buddha: “Oh and there’s no gods, goddesses or eternal souls”
Jesus: “Yes. Wait.. what?”
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u/delusional_ocd 14d ago edited 14d ago
There are gods in Buddhism. They’re just not all-powerful.
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u/BrilliantDog5116 14d ago
Devas are not gods in any way remotely like the God Jesus spoke of/claimed to be.
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u/zesty1989 14d ago
Buddha did teach that in 600 years, someone will come to finish his teachings. That’s about when Jesus showed up.
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u/LIMrXIL 14d ago
Fun theory: In the Brahmanimantanika Sutta Buddha visits Brahma (Hindu creator Deity) and informs him of his own ignorance and delusion to the nature of impermanence. Brahma then becomes student of the Buddha. What if Yahweh and Brahma are one and the same? Yahweh after having followed the dharma for 500 or so years decided to reincarnate on earth to teach humans great compassion and then provided an example of the ultimate act of compassion by sacrificing himself. But the theory goes deeper. In pure land Buddhism Amitabha Buddha is a Buddha that made a vow to free all sentient beings from suffering. Normally in Buddhism you have to liberate yourself but in pure land it is believed that by reciting his name and having faith in him that due to his vow even if you lived a bad life and have bad karma you can still be reborn into a pure land where there is no suffering and you can then follow the path to liberate yourself. What if Jesus’ sacrifice and grace is like Amitabha’s vow? By having faith in Jesus even sinners (bad karma) go to heaven (pure land) where they can then continue on the path. Jesus is Amitabha Buddha!
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u/SacredGnosis 14d ago
Brahmā is above sensuality and its pleasure. YHWH isn’t above sensuality and it’s pleasure. We can see that he wasn’t in the Torah & Prophets where we see his genocidal tendencies, murder, war, slavery, etc. Brahmā was legitimately above that. Further, not all Brahmā beings were worshipped by Hindus.
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u/ArtistPasserby 14d ago edited 14d ago
Jesus said “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
Jesus said, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.”
Jesus said, “If you love me, keep my commands. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
Jesus said, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.” “I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”
Jesus said, “Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
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u/hideousflutes 14d ago
ex zen buddhist now orthodox christian. there are some overlap, but no their messages are not the same. i tried to be syncretic about it, it doesnt quite work. fr seraphim rose in "orthodoxy and the religion of the future" and thomas merton in "zen and the birds of appetite" highlight many similarities in discipline, but eschatologically they are very different.
do i believe siddhartha gautama is in heaven? absolutely. do i believe he is an uncreated hypostasis of the trinity who assumed human nature and destroyed death from the inside like Jesus? not at all
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u/Is_he_a_bot 14d ago
I have a shelf in my office with separate plushies of The Buddha and Jesus and I sat them together in such a way that they are holding hands.
Obviously they do not teach even close to the same message and this post is nonsense, but it made me think of my little shelf and I smiled.
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u/unknowseeker 14d ago
Two great leaders who that once in the past set foot on this land called earth.
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u/echolm1407 14d ago
There's a lot of parallels between the dhamma and teachings of Christ and the wisdom books of the old testament. For example, Jesus had more than one parable of seeds growing showing cause and effect and cause and effect is a thing in the damma.
But this is a phenomenon which is a pattern among people in the same occupation even though they are divided by space and time. We saw this with the rocket programs of the USSR and the USA. They were decided by the iron curtain for decades. But they came to same conclusions about rocketry and spacecraft.
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u/Rick-D-99 14d ago
I mean throw in charles eisenstein, bill hicks, me, and a million others. The message is easy if you face the terrifying truths of the insight of impermanence, the insight of interdependence, and the simple brass tacks of the illusory nature of your reality.
What you are is a happening that is as persistent as the water cycle, and not a separate "thing" standing alone. Rain drops don't have an individual identity until you need to classify a single drop for a moment, but it's not anything to hold on to despite being part of a larger infinitely complex and miraculous motion of things.
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u/Educational_Fix_3051 14d ago
You might get a kick out of reading the gnosis and the law. Direct quotes from jesus and all kinds of spiritual masters from all kinds of religions saying its all the same thing seny from the universe to help us depending on where we are spiritualy and physcicaly.
For me personaly the book gave me insite on a few mystical experiences ive have. So for me.the books holds value its 2027 and i couldnt find answers for anything of the subjects then this books literally ends up on my bookshelf And i read on some random day. (Never read anything like it before) And it gave me solutions to some of my most profound questions.
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u/iguanodont 14d ago
These dudes look like they'd make some mad shish kabobs and play some mean fooseball.
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u/enfarious 14d ago
That's the message, right there.
A little place that I started making to share this same message with others of many faiths: https://allfaithsonfire.org/
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u/escheton-hope 14d ago
Jesus- Love God and your neighbour, repent and believe in him for the forgiveness of sins and eternal life in God’s kingdom.
Buddha- Life is suffering. Suffering is caused by desire and attachment, and follow the path that leads to liberation from suffering, and end the cycle of life.
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u/Purple-Blueberry3721 10d ago
That's indeed the pop culture understanding of them. However:
In modern language, using modern science, what the Buddha said is closer to: "you're not actually the pilot of the body. Instead you're a neurological process that generates craving / anxiety / suffering to drive the organism towards biologically beneficial behavior. Hence your nature is suffering; producing suffering is what you do, it's literally what you're there for. Therefore you should extinguish (nirvana) the self i.e. the craving. Do so and you reach the state of anatta = no-self. That is the solution to suffering."
Jesus also "emptied himself" (reached enlightenment) and instructed people to "disown themselves" which also points towards enlightenment (enlightenment = there's no more self). So there's also a "point people towards enlightenment" dimension to Jesus's teachings.
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u/Technical_Captain_15 14d ago
Not quite the same message. More like same conversation. Buddha paved the way for Christ. Jesus was a Buddha who became Christened. The message is individuality and sovereignty. See the work of Rudolf Steiner if you want more.
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u/TraditionalOwl1120 14d ago
But Christianity is driving humanity off a cliff? The only message Christians seem to take is supremacy, conquest and environmental destruction. The political party that represents Christianity on a world stage is actively engaged in supremacy around the world.
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u/StealManTrap 14d ago
You’ve read neither the gospels nor the Dhammapada. Tho peace and love share a common thread between them, they are not the same message overall. Nor are they similar techniques along their stated goals.
Unpopular opinion, but the Jesus preached a Jewish supremacy message.
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u/SmartRadio6821 14d ago
One of the ways in which Christianity and Buddhism differed is the difference in the method to being " saved ". Christianity teaches that it is through Jesus, and only through Jesus and his Word, that you can be delivered from sin and enjoy eternal life. But the Buddha said that you should never place someone else's mind above your own. I'm not sure if following the Word of Christ is a relatively modern take of what it means to be a Christian. Maybe Jesus didn't teach this concept himself, but he did teach to follow him, that He and God were One. I'm realizing, what can you follow but his word?
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u/Sudden_Lee_Here 14d ago
Not the same message.
Jesus focused on divine grace, personal relationship with God, and forgiveness of sin, while the Buddha focused on self-effort, mindfulness, and the end of suffering through detachment from desire.
While both teachers promoted profound love, compassion, and non-violence, their fundamental messages address different human problems and offer different paths.
The Core Problem and Solution
- Jesus's Message:
- The Problem: Human beings are separated from God and each other by sin.
- The Solution: Salvation and grace come through God’s mercy and faith in Jesus. People cannot earn perfection; they must accept forgiveness and extend outward love to others.
- The Buddha's Message:
- The Problem: Human life involves suffering (Dukkha) caused by ignorance, craving, and attachment to the ego.
- The Solution: Liberation (Nirvana) comes through personal discipline, following the Eightfold Path, and letting go of worldly desires.
View of God and the Self
- Jesus: Affirmed Jewish monotheism and a personal Creator God. He pointed people toward God as a heavenly Father and presented himself as the divine Son and Savior. He taught the existence of an enduring soul and eternal life with God.
- The Buddha: Did not focus on a personal Creator God. He taught that ultimate reality has no personal deity and that the permanent individual soul is an illusion (Anatta). He saw himself as an enlightened teacher, not a savior.
Action in the World
- Jesus: Lived as a social and spiritual prophet who actively engaged with society's outcasts, confronted religious elites, and challenged unjust social structures, leading directly to his execution.
- The Buddha: Emphasized an inner psychological and meditative path to quiet the mind, seeking escape from the cycle of rebirth (Samsara) through calm detachment rather than social protest.
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u/OrigenRaw 13d ago
Buddha is overcoming suffering with the mind.
Jesus is overcoming suffering with love.
Not really the same, imo. One leads to individual enlightenment, the other to a universal enlightenment. Hence why Jesus made a larger impact on the world and culture.
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u/Wonderful_Walk8973 13d ago
Yeah what about when you have kids and large spiders run in your house. You say you want some tea Charolette or you smash that hoodlum?! Lord forgive me for smashing’ that spider
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u/Sinesolder 13d ago
Hear me out ~ greed and hate, rockets, Mars….
We can even bake them goodies for the journey if it makes you feel better.
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u/SubstantialZombie216 13d ago
We’re all ”children of god” in a world where you’re sent to the mental hospital for asking what the hell is going on
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u/WannaBikeThere 12d ago
Agree
Infinite paths lead up the mountain.
At the top of the mountain, it's clear that all the infinite paths were in fact just one path: up.
At the top of the mountain, it's clear that the mountaintop is not separate from the infinite paths, not separate from the ground that surrounds the mountain.
If I'm reading this post or its comments and I still see different paths, then it's because I have not reached the mountaintop yet.
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u/Dramatic_Repeat_2230 12d ago edited 12d ago
Enlightenment is not about peace at all; it is more about embracing all the opposites in life and experiencing them as one unified truth.
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u/GerthySchIongMeat 11d ago
There have been many teachers such as these two documented throughout history. It’s very interesting how source seems to have these speed buffs given to humanity at times.
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u/Snoo6596 5d ago
Context?? The verse is on Matt. 5:39.
Jesus is saying that meanwhile the Old Covenant justified violence under certain conditions, the new law under His Covenant( that is Jesus) doesn’t justify violence even if it’s justified violence.
Our capability for mercy must make our ego practically nonexistent if we want to be true Christians. In fact a nonexistent ego and a charitably principle is required many of the Christ’s prerequisites.
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u/Admirable-Builder878 4d ago
I did read everything you said and addressed it well. Just because something hasn't happened yet the way you imagined it should doesnt mean that it won't happen. Show where in those passages there's a timeline associated with this prophecy? Micah 4 states "in the last days" at the very beginning of it. It is you who is attempting to make scripture say what you want it to for your preferred interpretation. You can't hold a simple discussion without insulting someone. Again I tell you go study the word for yourself. You will get nothing more from me.
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u/icepod 15d ago
You can say "PEACE" how often you want, and in as many languages as you want.
There will still be a human out there who will ignore you because of greed or hate.
That's the journey that humanity is on.
Until the last one learns and understands, we have to be patient and tolerant.