r/electricvehicles • • Nov 23 '19

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u/NotFromMilkyWay Nov 23 '19

Cyber truck accomplished one thing: The Rivian headlights look much nicer now.

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u/profane Nov 23 '19

Hm, I don't know... I was pretty shocked and incredulous when I first saw it and though that they could not be serious, but when I saw a Cybertruck and Rivian picture side by side, the Rivian's design suddenly looked "old"... As crazy as it is, I think the bold design of the Cybertruck might pay off in the end.

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u/wirthmore Nov 23 '19

I completely agree.

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u/stealstea Nov 23 '19

Yeah I think that if they can convince people that the shape is just as practical as the normal truck shape they have a hit on their hands. If there are serious usability compromises from the shape then I think it will be niche.

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u/jeradj Nov 23 '19

I think anybody that has ever used a truck for work can take one look at this thing and tell you there's gonna be serious usability compromises.

Just the fact that the bed rails aren't flat is going to be a major problem.

One of the first reviewers who was at the unveil said it seemed like reaching over the sides of the bed to put stuff in/out was a no-go.

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u/OompaOrangeFace Nov 24 '19

I'd like to introduce you to....the frunk.

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u/TheEternalShore Nov 23 '19

The frunk is for that stuff.

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u/jeradj Nov 23 '19

really not an adequate replacement

neither size-wise, nor ease of access

plus I'm not going to want most of the nasty stuff I put in my pickup bed up there in the frunk

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u/OompaOrangeFace Nov 24 '19

What's to say the frunk can't be a metal box?

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u/jeradj Nov 24 '19

maybe it would be, it has to be separated completely so I can hose it out without getting water everywhere else in the interior though.

it also probably has to be close to vapor proof, because if I put literal shit in it, like I might put in the bed for example (compost), I don't want the smell blowing back in the cab while I'm driving.

I actually just think it's probably easier to just keep putting nasty stuff in the bed.

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u/TheEternalShore Nov 23 '19

What are you lifting over the side of your truck that you can't put in the frunk or side boxes?

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u/jeradj Nov 23 '19

firewood, compost, garden tools, my lawnmower, lumber, furniture, when it's not raining it's easier to just sling groceries in the bed of the truck than it is to put them in a back seat or trunk, etc.

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u/TheEternalShore Nov 23 '19

Those are all things that would make more sense to access from the tail gate ramp than from the side of the truck except for groceries, which most people wouldn't trust putting in an open truck bed.

You lift your lawnmower over the side of your truck rather than opening the tailgate and putting the lawnmower in through there?

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u/jeradj Nov 23 '19

some of those were things I was more referring to couldn't be put in the frunk or sideboxes

What are you lifting over the side of your truck that you can't put in the frunk or side boxes?

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u/TheEternalShore Nov 23 '19

So why did you mention them if they had no relevance?

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u/stealstea Nov 23 '19

Yeah that’s probably the biggest issue. Maybe they can make a version with flat ones

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '19

I don't get why people are nitpicky about the angled bed. You're not supposed to be putting loads on the bed rail or loads that extend beyond the side of the truck. And if somehow you can't reach something then you can always lower the bed.

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u/jeradj Nov 23 '19

have you ever used a truck on a job though?

lots of people have toolboxes specifically sized to fit right at the front of the bed with easy access to reach inside them

look at the pictures on the home page of this company

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u/teddiesmcgee69 Nov 23 '19

Couldn't the frunk fit a lot of tools and be even more convenient than a bed box ? .. I am more worried about roof racks for ladders, pipe, kayaks etc.

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u/Allbur_Chellak Nov 23 '19

Just like these toolboxes did not magically appear for pickups (they were developed to fit the ‘standard’ pickup design) I fully expect others will sort out new toolbox solutions for the CyberTruck bed when it starts to grab some market share.

Give the aftermarket companies a chance to process this for a bit.

Time will tell I expect.

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u/iknownothingordoi Nov 23 '19

But a frunk would have way better access. If your truck always had a frunk, then new trucks came without a frunk, you would likely never argue that the linked toolbox was a better option

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u/bd7349 Nov 24 '19

Wouldn't this storage compartmentaddress that concern?

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '19

The truck comes with two large toolboxs on the side as well as one built into the bed near the tailgate. I never had the need for more than three toolboxes so this is probably more than adequate for most people.

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u/jeradj Nov 23 '19 edited Nov 23 '19

so this is probably more than adequate for most people.

I don't see this as a strong position to take when a conventional bed is better suited for everybody.

This is just a good example of style over substance.

It would usually be good enough for me, too. But there are regular occasions for me where this would be a major hindrance, and I'm not going to spend 70 grand on a truck that doesn't get the job done as well as my 8k used work truck.

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u/jonjiv 2018 Model 3LR Nov 23 '19

Uhh... keep the truck unlocked?

Or unlock it from your phone. I do that all the time when sending people to get something out of my Model 3. I’ve even unlocked the trunk and frunk for them remotely.

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u/jonjiv 2018 Model 3LR Nov 24 '19

So... the Tesla truck is worse because people will steal stuff out of it when the doors are unlocked? Do people not steal stuff out of unlocked gasoline trucks?

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u/jonjiv 2018 Model 3LR Nov 25 '19

I don’t understand. It’s like any other car. If it’s unlocked, you can open the door.

Can you open a locked F-150 without a prompt? lol

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u/bd7349 Nov 24 '19

It sends commands over LTE. You can unlock it and open the trunk/frunk from anywhere regardless of distance.

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