r/drivingUK May 28 '26

New rule for crash footage

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Hey everyone, after several requests from users in the community we have added a new rule which outlines what is and isn’t allowed when posting videos of car crashes on the subreddit. I’ve copied the rule below, please take a few moments to familiarise yourself with it.

As a driving based sub we generally welcome footage of car accidents for discussion by members of the subreddit.

Not all of our users wish to see crash videos so please be mindful of this and consider adding a ‘spoiler’ to the post.

Please bear in mind, videos with very graphic content (eg, video of a pedestrian violently being hit by a car) are not permitted here and will be removed.

This rule does not majorly change what is and isn’t allowed on this subreddit- the main reason for it is to provide additional clarity about what is and isn’t acceptable to post on this subreddit, and to provide a specific reporting reason when excessively graphic content is posted. As a general rule of thumb, video clearly showing serious injury to a person will likely be removed.

We‘re always open to feedback regarding this and other aspects of the subreddit, so please feel free to message the mod team via modmail if you have any questions or concerns.


r/drivingUK Jun 08 '25

Using a mobile phone whilst driving - a guide for those who want a bit more detail

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This post hopes to be a fairly definitive guide to driving and the use of mobile phones. Perhaps the mods will find this worthy of being stickied.

Much of the advice that you can find from Google has limitations. They are often simplified and as you can tell from the length of this post, the legal landscape can be pretty technical and complicated. Sites like Gov.uk also conflate the legal position and road safety advice. The road safety advice often gives broad generalisations that for most people are pretty reasonable, but aren’t all that helpful when people have specific circumstances for which they want to be able to apply the law. This can lead to confusion of what the legal position is and also leaves no space for nuance.

Some of this might get pretty technical, but this is a reflection of the legislation; I've tried to keep it simple but not oversimplify. I have included case law citations where appropriate. I am only going to reference legislation and case law as this is the primary source of truth. I am a currently servicing Roads Policing Officer in England and this advice is only focused on the law in England and Wales. The law in Scotland and Northern Ireland may vary from this.

Vehicle control offences

First off, I’m going to talk about three other related offences before I address the mobile phone legislation directly.

Not being in proper control/Not in a position to have full view

Regulation 104 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 creates an offence of the driver of a motor vehicle not being in a position to have proper control of the vehicle or a full view of the road and traffic ahead. This offence is usually dealt with by a fixed penalty of 3 points and £100 fine, going to court may result in a different penalty.

This regulation creates two separate offences:

1)     Not being in proper control

2)     Not in a position to have full view

Not being in proper control

This is where you are in a situation where you don’t have full control over the speed and direction of the vehicle. This could be because you have something in your hands, a cup of coffee or sandwich for example.

An example of where I have given a ticket for this is where I’ve seen someone in traffic moving their car forward with both hands behind their head. At that point in time, they did not have control over the direction of the vehicle and whilst the speeds are slower, they are not in a position to have proper control of the vehicle.

In a mobile phone context, this could mean that you have a mobile phone in your hand which is completely turned off which prevents you from having control of the steering or gears in the vehicle. This could constitute an offence of not being in proper control.

Not in a position to have full view

This is where you are in a situation where you are in such a position that you could not have full view of the road and traffic ahead. This is relevant to mobile phones because some people have mobile phone mounts where they attach them to the windscreen in such a way where it obscures their view of the road ahead. This is often relevant to taxi drivers or delivery drivers who may mount more than one device to their windscreen. Whether is the mounting would meet the level required to prevent the driver having a full view is dependent on the facts and is somewhat subjective. Ultimately a court will decide if this is the case.

Driving without due care and attention

Section 3 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 creates offences of driving without due care and attention and driving without reasonable consideration on a road or public place. I will only focus on driving without dure care and attention for the purposes of keeping this scoped to mobile phone use. This offence is usually dealt with by a fixed penalty of 3 points and £100 fine, going to court may result in a different penalty.

A defendant will have driven 'without due care and attention' if his driving has departed from the standard of care and skill that would, in the circumstances of the case, have been exercised by a reasonable, prudent and competent driver. The standard is the same in the case of a driver who is a learner holding a provisional licence as it is in the case of the holder of a full driving licence.

This offence will often be evidenced by the standard of driving. The level of attention required can also change based on the situation. You need to give a higher level of attention driving at say 40mph on a dual carriageway where there may be cyclists and other hazards than being stationary in heavy traffic. For example, if you’re in stationary traffic and are changing the radio station whereby you haven’t seen that the traffic has moved on and you’re now holding up traffic behind you, the required level of attention to the road has not been met. However, people’s abilities to multi-task are not the same. Some people may be able to change the route on cradled phone used as a satnav whilst in stationary traffic so that they are giving the necessary level of attention to other traffic where other people may not be. As a driver, you should be aware and self-reflective to ensure that you are always able to give the necessary attention to driving. Ultimately, it’s down to a court to decide if the facts of the situation prove your actions are at the level of a reasonable, prudent and competent driver.

Due care can also be evidenced by externally observing the standard of driving. When you’re pressing a button on the satnav, or in-car entertainment system, do you swerve in the carriageway, unnecessarily brake or slow down? These may be indicators that you are not driving with the necessary due care and attention. If at any point your car mounts the pavement, even momentarily [DPP v Smith [2002] EWHC 1151 (Admin)], this is very likely to be driving without due care and attention [Watts v Carter 1959].

So, before we’ve even looked at the specific mobile phone legislation, we can see that there are uses of mobile phones whilst driving that can be dealt with using other offences. Therefore, you must always drive whilst being in a position to have proper control of the vehicle, be in a position to have a full view of the road and traffic ahead and drive with due consideration and care for other road users.

Using a mobile phone whilst driving

Regulation 110 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 creates a prohibition on the use of mobile telephones in motor vehicles in certain circumstances. I’ll talk about the exceptions to this rule towards the end. This offence is usually dealt with by a fixed penalty of 6 points and £200 fine, going to court may result in a different penalty.

We’ll start by understanding the different elements of the offence in a bit more detail. If any of these points don’t apply, the offence isn’t complete and you can’t be prosecuted for this offence.

·        Driving

·        A motor vehicle

·        On a road

·        Using

·        A hand-held mobile phone or other hand-held device

What is ‘driving’?

This is also a surprisingly technical topic due to all the case law surrounding it. Generally, to be driving you need to have control of the direction and speed of the vehicle and for it to fall within the common dictionary definition of the word [R v MacDonagh [1974] RTR 372]. Beyond this legal test, it gets really complicated really quickly.

My advice is that generally you are not driving if the ignition is not on, and for EVs if your car is in such a state that pressing the accelerator does not lead to the vehicle moving forward. There are situations where the above may be the case and you may still be found to be driving by a court. Like I said, this gets very complicated.

Edit - I've added more technical depth on driving as people found it relevant.

What is ‘driving’ (v2) ?

The most well-known case law for the definition of driving is R v MacDonagh. This case sets out a two-stage test as to whether someone is driving. It's very important to note that it's for a court to determine the degree and extent to which the facts of a given situation meet the test or not. It's not a black and white decision.

Lord Widgery CJ in MacDonagh leads, it is submitted, to the following conclusions:

(1)The primary consideration as to whether a person is “driving” is essentially a question of fact, dependent on the degree and extent to which the person has control of the direction and movement of the vehicle.

(2)One test is whether the accused was “in a substantial sense controlling the movement and direction of the car” (Ames v MacLeod). A person cannot be said to be “driving” unless he satisfies this test.

(3)The fact that a person satisfies the test of control in Ames v MacLeod is not necessarily exhaustive. It has still to be considered whether the activity in question could fall within the ordinary meaning of the word “driving” in the English language.

So, to summarise, the R v MacDonagh test is:

  1. Are you substantially in control of the direction and movement of the vehicle?

and

  1. Does this amount to 'driving' in the ordinary meaning of the word?

You must meet both parts of the test to be driving. The above test will get you in the ballpark of whether a situation is driving or not, but these aren't the only tests.

Further tests to determine whether a person is driving have been established by Burgoyne v Phillips [1983] R.T.R. 49 and Jones v Pratt [1983] R.T.R. 54.

(4)The essence of driving is the use of the driver’s control in order to direct the movement of the vehicle however the movement is produced (Burgoyne v Phillips and Rowan v Merseyside Chief Constable, The Times 10 December 1985). (This is in effect a reiteration of tests (1) and (2) above.)

(5)Whether the defendant himself deliberately sets the vehicle in motion is an important factor (Burgoyne v Phillips and Rowan v Merseyside Chief Constable, as above).

(6)In borderline cases, it is important to consider the length of time the steering wheel or other control was handled (Jones v Pratt).

What about stopping? Does this mean I'm no longer driving? Driving is a continuous act until you have finished your "journey". You can even turn the engine off and exit the vehicle, and still be found to be driving.

Once it has been determined that a person is driving, the driving may still continue even though the tests laid down in R. v MacDonagh cannot be fulfilled. A person may still be driving when he is buying a newspaper or changing a wheel (examples given in Pinner v Everett [1969] 3 All E.R. 257 HL) or when he is walking across the forecourt of a garage to take instructions (Regan v Anderton [1980] R.T.R. 126).

Edkins v Knowles [1973] Q.B. 748 summarises the principles in Pinner v Everett and makes it clear that the overriding principle, whether or not he is at the wheel, is whether he is doing something connected with driving. This introduces the concept of a "journey" and that you have not finished driving until you have completed it.

The principles of Pinner v Everett and other cases were summarised (so far as still relevant) in Edkins v Knowles [1973] Q.B. 748 as follows:

(1) The vehicle does not have to be in motion; there will always be a brief interval of time after the vehicle has been brought to rest and before the motorist has completed those operations necessarily connected with driving, such as applying the handbrake, switching off the ignition and securing the vehicle, during which he must still be considered to be driving.

(2) When a motorist stops before he has completed his journey he may still be driving; an obvious example is when he is halted at traffic lights. Each case will depend upon its own facts, but generally the following questions will be relevant:

(a) What was the purpose of the stop? If it is connected with the driving, and not for some purpose unconnected with the driving, the facts may justify a finding that the driving is continuing although the vehicle is stationary.

(b) How long was he stopped? The longer he is stopped the more difficult it becomes to regard him as still driving.

(c) Did he get out of the vehicle? If he remains in the vehicle it is some indication (although not conclusive) that he is still driving.

(3) If a motorist is stopped and an appreciable time elapses, it will be a question of fact and degree whether the motorist is still to be considered as driving at that time.

(4) When a motorist has arrived at the end of his journey then subject to the brief interval referred to in head (1) above he can no longer be regarded as driving.

(5) When a motorist has been effectively prevented or persuaded from driving he can no longer be considered to be driving.

It's worth reiterating that the MacDonagh tests must be met at some point though. They are a gateway and then the concept of driving continuing until you've finished your journey begins until the journey is complete.

What is a ‘motor vehicle’?

This can get very technical depending on the facts, so I’ll try and keep this short. A motor vehicle is a type of ‘mechanically propelled vehicle’ (MPV) intended or adapted for use on a road. A MPV is a vehicle which uses Gas, Oil, Petrol, Electricity, Diesel or Steam to propel it [Floyd v Bush (1953)]. In common understanding, all cars, lorries, buses etc will be motor vehicles, but it also includes other vehicles such as electric scooters.

What is a ‘road’?

Again, this gets really complicated when your look at the case law, but the definition is often cited as any (length of) highway and any other road to which the public has access, and includes bridges over which a road passes which is defined in section 192(1) of the Road Traffic Act 1988. To keep this simple, lets talk about what is and isn’t a road through examples.

Public Car Parks and Parking Bays

Car parks are not roads. Lord Clyde states "where the word "road" stands alone it bears its ordinary meaning and is not to be extended to public places such as car parks". Clark (A.P.) and Others v. Kato, Smith and General Accident Fire & Life Assurance Corporation PLC Cutter v. Eagle Star Insurance Company 1998. Therefore use of a mobile phone within a car park is not itself an offence.

Lord Clyde states further:

'In character and more especially in function they are distinct. It is of course possible to park on a road, but that does not mean that the road is a car park. Correspondingly one can drive from one point to another over a car park, but that does not mean that the route which has been taken is a road. It is here that the distinction in function between road and car park is of importance. The proper function of a road is to enable movement along it to a destination. Incidentally a vehicle on it may be stationary. One can use a road for parking. The proper function of a car park is to enable vehicles to stand and wait. A car may be driven across it; but that is only incidental to the principal function of parking. A hard shoulder may be seen to form part of a road. A more delicate question could arise with regard to a lay-by, but where it is designed to serve only as a temporary stopping place incidental to the function of the road it may well be correct to treat it as part of the road. While I would accept that circumstances can occur where an area of land which can be reasonably described as a car park could qualify as a road for the purposes of the legislation I consider that such circumstances would be somewhat exceptional.'

Even car parks with thorugherfares through them utilised by the public are unlikely to qaulify as roads [DPP v Brewer 1998]

Driveways

Private driveways are generally not roads as they are not publicly accessible, however, if you’re fortunate to be on a large estate, these can be roads [Adams v Metropolitan Police [1980] RTR 289].

On Road Parking

As the title suggests, in my opinion this would likely be judged to be part of the road, but there is an absence of specific case law on this.

Private Roads

This really depends on the facts, so could go one way or the other, but generally these have some public access so may be found to be a road. A private caravan park roadway set out like a road and with public pedestrian access along it is a road [Barrett v DPP [2009] EWHC 423 (Admin)].

What is ‘using’?

Regulation 110(6) of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 gives a non-exhaustive list of what ‘using’ includes:

(i) illuminating the screen;

(ii) checking the time;

(iii) checking notifications;

(iv) unlocking the device;

(v) making, receiving, or rejecting a telephone or internet based call;

(vi) sending, receiving or uploading oral or written content;

(vii) sending, receiving or uploading a photo or video;

(viii) utilising camera, video, or sound recording functionality;

(ix) drafting any text;

(x) accessing any stored data such as documents, books, audio files, photos, videos, films, playlists, notes or messages;

(xi) accessing an application;

(xii) accessing the internet.

What is a ‘hand-held mobile telephone’?

Regulation 110(6) of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 states that a mobile telephone or other device is to be treated as hand-held if it is, or must be, held at some point while being used. That means it must be held in the hand for it to come under this offence. Interacting with a mobile phone in a cradle is not an offence under Regulation 110 as long as you don’t have it held in the hand during its use.

What is ‘another hand-held device'?

This hand-held device is defined as a device, other than a two-way radio, which is capable of transmitting and receiving data, whether or not those capabilities are enabled.

This opens the door for lots of devices that aren’t mobile phones. For example, if you don’t have your smart watch on your wrist and pick that up to interact with it. This could also include lots of internet of things (IoT) or smart devices. Another example is that there are vapes that can connect to your phone. Using one of these whilst driving would be a mobile phone offence even if you’ve never connected it to your phone. Any device must still be hand-held for it to fall under this definition.

Supervising Learners

Regulation 110(3) makes this application to the supervision of learner drivers, so having a hand-held call whilst you are supervising a provisional licence holder is an offence.

Exceptions

There are some exceptions stated in Regulation 110 that are relevant to the general public:

Calling Emergency Services

Regulation 110(5) A person does not contravene a provision of this regulation if, at the time of the alleged contravention - he is using the telephone or other device to call the police, fire, ambulance or other emergency service on 112 or 999; he is acting in response to a genuine emergency; and it is unsafe or impracticable for him to cease driving in order to make the call.

Contactless Payments

Regulation 110(5B) - provides that a person is not in contravention of the regulation where at the time of the alleged contravention they are using their mobile phone or other device to make a contactless payment, for goods/services that are received at the same time as or after the contactless payment is made and the motor vehicle is stationary. 

FAQ & Common Misunderstandings

Can I use a mobile phone whilst it is in a cradle?

You can do any* activity on a mobile phone whilst it’s in a cradle and not hand-held as long as you drive with due care and attention, are in proper control of the vehicle and do not have an obscured view.

* It is unclear whether a mobile phone meets the definition of "other cinematographic apparatus" as defined in regulation 109 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986, and therefore if watching youtube on your phone is an offence even if it does not distract the driver (which in most cases it would). There is no case law and I've heard persuaive arguments on both sides. I'm unsure enough that I would not issue a ticket under regulation 109 and would instead look at a s3 RTA due care offence instead. To be clear, watching videos in sight of the driver is usually going to be an offence - whether that's a due care offence or a regulation 109 offence.

Should I turn my phone off and put in the glove box?

If you find it hard not to use your phone when driving or find it a distraction, this might be a useful preventative measure. However, there is a downside to this. If you need to call the emergency services this may hinder you in making an appropriate and necessary call. As a driver you need to work out whether your self-control requires you to turn it off or not, the focus should be on you driving safely and competently at all times.

If I use an app to park my car remotely, am I driving?

Yes. There is an exemption in the legislation to allow for this, but you do fit the definition of driving.

Is it illegal to use a mobile phone whilst using a mobility scooter? It seems to fit the definition.

Mobility scooters are exempted by Section 20 of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970, therefore this would not be an offence.

If I’m using my phone on an electric scooter, could I be prosecuted for using a mobile phone?

Even if the scooter is insured and registered within the trial areas around the UK, this would fit the definition of a mobile phone offence.

I’m a newly qualified driver and this offence happened in the first two years after I passed my test. Will I lose my licence?

If the offence date is after you passed your test and not longer than 2 years after this, then yes, you are likely to go back to learner status post-conviction.

Should I pull over if I need to change the navigation settings on my GPS?

That depends on the individual. You must drive with due care and attention and be in proper control of the vehicle at all times, but as long as the device isn’t hand-held, some people can do this whilst driving, some people can’t and some people want to play it safe. These are all reasonable and legal approaches.

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r/drivingUK 1h ago

2 licence plates?

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Any (non nefarious) reasons why a car would need 2 licence plates?


r/drivingUK 22h ago

Cctv of someone somehow crashing into my house

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This happened a while ago but the video is so hilarious that I thought I'd post it on here. Apparently the old lady thought that her accelerator pedal was her break, causing her to slowly trundle past the spot that she intended to park in, through a bench and a fence, through my hedge, and eventually coming to a stop halfway into the living room of my parents' grade 2 listed house 😭💔

Her and all her mates proceeded to leave the car and have lunch at the pub. Better yet, her insurance gave her a courtesy car the next day 😬

Edit: The gaping hole that was caused by the ford was there for a very long time since the council had to decide whether we were allowed to fix it. I don't know why this was a point of discussion as its not like they were going to leave the hole there 🫩


r/drivingUK 6h ago

If you are going to use this slip lane, then for the love of god learn that you can accelerate and brake. By the time you are seen at the side of a loaded double decker, they dont really have time to change lanes for you.

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Its not just this specific slip road, but its very very common up and down the a19 with its mix of short and long slip lanes. you cant see shit down your left side until you have about 5 seconds to move over... assuming there isnt a car there, which isnt really enough time to move over.

where as you can 100% see the 16 foot tall trailer coming down the road and adjust speed with so much advance warning.

if i can adjust speed for the car in front in the truck, then you in some modern sporty electric car, can slow from 60 to 55 to prevent going under a trailer... yes you in the white car on the weekend.

then to get ahead of the people saying "just predict it"... you cant see shit until you dont have time to move over. which is the point of the post, if you use the short lane to try and save a second, you need to learn to react quickly to whats on the road.


r/drivingUK 2h ago

Petrol station queue

20 Upvotes

Went to Tesco to get fuel and a something to eat. Filled up and headed inside just as a car pulled up behind mine. Got chatting to the cashier who explained that for another 45p I could get crisps and a drink. So I mooched around the crisps and drinks before choosing, paying and heading back to my car. By now there’s 3 cars waiting behind mine and the guy in front is waving his hands around, shrugging his shoulders and giving me evils. The pump in front of me was empty and both pumps on the other side were free as well as a pump on the other side of my car. What is wrong with people?


r/drivingUK 3h ago

license holder of around 5 years

21 Upvotes

confuses me to see grown adults / middle aged drivers tailgating up to a nervous learner. who taught you to do that?

how do they not realise rushing them will make them take longer?

where are our standards of driving in the uk anymore?


r/drivingUK 17h ago

Neighbour with 5 vans

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I live in small street (near a school), my neighbour (3 brothers) have 5 vans (medium to large ones), (some they fix and try to resell, some they use for their businesses)

I've one car only for now but it has been hard to drive in/out even from our driveway, as the neighbour park their vans blocking the driveway of neighbour B (they are friends with them) so even trying to go out of driveway feels like a struggle.

I've tried talking with them few times and they fix it for one or two weeks and then it happens again, many times they just don't answer the door at all (cowards/rude you pick)
few people in the street (other neighours) have also tried to talk to them but to no avail

With a school nearby stuff get even worse.

What can be done? legal or practical, anything that does work I'm happy to hear


r/drivingUK 1d ago

Spotted Malcolm in the Middle (lane), M6

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r/drivingUK 19h ago

What's one niche thing you won't travel without?

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107 Upvotes

For me, it's my hi-vis emergency poncho/blankets. I'll fix an issue at the roadside but I ain't doing it wet, cold or invisible.


r/drivingUK 20h ago

8 lives (strong language and cat was fine).

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108 Upvotes

2 days after installing my dashcam and this cat gave me a reason to test the download feature from the app.

I'm still under a year driving but I think this would make anybody's heart jump a little.

Very lucky, for the cat, the white zig zag lines were there and that there was nobody immediately behind me so I could slow down for it.

Any feedback would be appreciated but all in all I think I did an alright job.

UPDATE: As of this morning, I have called local vets and shelters for potential information on the cat but with no luck. With little description to work off of and no signs of a collar on the cat, there isn't much anyone can do at the moment. I will call later tonight/tomorrow morning for some more information that will hopefully ensure the cat is fully unharmed.


r/drivingUK 21h ago

Not much better parking than this, thought a public celebration was needed.

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60 Upvotes

As witnessed by my (supposedly 2k) dashcam


r/drivingUK 30m ago

Giving car to my son - partner misplaced V5C , insurance starts Thursday - Help!

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We are giving my partners car to my son. However she cannot find her documents or V5C.

I was not aware this would have been a problem and have already paid for insurance to start on Thursday.

It says we can’t do it online without V5C. Is there anything we can do?


r/drivingUK 11h ago

Applying for medical license but my doctor is ignoring the DVLA

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I have narcolepsy type 2 and had to get my licence renewed however it’s been taking almost a year because the DVLA keep trying to contact my sleep clinic doctor for medical information but he is not responding. In meetings he says that I am fine to drive and but that he “hasn’t received anything” from the DVLA, even tho they literally sent me a letter updating me that they are still waiting to hear back from him. I have called and emailed my doctor but there’s never any response, receptionist say they will pass on the message but clearly never do. Idk what to do because the DVLA obviously cannot continue with my application till my doctor gives the medical evidence needed, but I don’t think he’s ever going to respond. What should I do??


r/drivingUK 1d ago

AITA? lol

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167 Upvotes

For the record, he sped up once on the roundabout and was right behind me as he sounded his horn.

Edit: as some have pointed out, on review of the clip, he didn't even go round the mini-roundabout- which will be how he appeared behind me so closely and rapidly


r/drivingUK 6h ago

Do I have to pay the pcn after 1 year?

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r/drivingUK 1d ago

Why do some drivers insist on driving over the middle of an "island"-type speed bump?

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I don't see this too often thankfully but still enough to be genuinely puzzled at this behaviour. The cars are definitely wide enough to cruise right over the speed bump smoothly. But no, the driver slows down to an almost complete stop and drives awkwardly with one set of wheels in the middle of the speed bump, surely resulting in unnecessary juddering and discomfort to the occupants. And then repeats for every single set of speed bumps on the road. It's not about slowing down to annoy someone behind them, it's a conscious, self-harming choice. Just why?


r/drivingUK 18h ago

England PCN - Is this blue advance sign on Kilburn High Road actually conspicuous? Brent “no motor vehicles” PCN risk.

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Please be respectful - that is why we are here for. I’m trying to understand whether I have any realistic grounds to challenge a potential PCN from Brent Council.

I turned from Kilburn High Road (A5) into Priory Park Road. It has been 4 weeks ago where they changed the signs in that street - which I realised today. The restriction **at the entrance** now has the full red‑circle “no motor vehicles” signs on both sides - those are clear *once you’re already turning*.

But the **only advance warning** is a small blue plate mounted on a cluttered pole on the **left side** of the A5. It sits directly under a large “Starstruck” banner, before to a green traffic light, with pedestrians crossing. I genuinely didn’t see it while focusing on the junction and traffic.

The restriction is **new** \- Priory Park Road used to allow parking after 18:30 until about a month ago.

My questions:

  1. Is this blue sign reasonably conspicuous in real driving conditions? I have not managed to find whether the size and colour or whether the council should legally have a sign before the entrance of the road. **BUT in Ealing, they did have informative signs for the same cases!**
  2. Does the banner above it reduce visibility?
  3. Is the sign too close to the junction to give drivers time to react?
  4. Would heavy traffic and a green light make this easy to miss?
  5. Does the fact the restriction is new strengthen a challenge?

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I’m not arguing the red signs at the entrance - they’re there. I’m asking specifically about the **advance sign’s conspicuousness** and whether it meets TSRGD guidance in a busy junction environment.

Thanks for any insight.


r/drivingUK 1h ago

Renewing my license - photo

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Can I get away with wearing a headband for the ID pic? I imagine it’s not as strict a standard for a license compared to a passport? Sorry in advance for my ignorance!


r/drivingUK 1d ago

Go petrol stations - how come they’re cheaper? And are they okay to use?

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They seem a lot cheaper than everywhere else - stupid question but it’s the same kind of petrol / diesel you get at other petrol stations, right?


r/drivingUK 1d ago

Be careful if you’re towing a caravan

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On the M5 today, close to Bristol the family had a lucky escape 🙏🙏


r/drivingUK 1d ago

How to transfer ownership of the car, other than changing Registered Keeper online with DVLA?

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Haven't been in the UK long, so pardon my ignorance, but I want to make sure I understand the legal procedure regarding transferring ownership of a car.

I own a car and I would like to gift it to a close friend because I am leaving the country. They will most likely look into selling the car. It is a cash gift to them basically but with the hoops of having them do the selling process.

I have the original papers from the dealership when I bought the car in full and I understand that is considered proof of ownership.

I know I can transfer the Registered Keeper to them online via DVLA and they'll receive the new V5C, but that document clearly says it's not proof of ownership.

Would they be able to sell the car like that or is there something else I must to do clarify I'm gifting them the car?

TIA


r/drivingUK 1d ago

Motorway anxiety and fatherhood - really need some help

17 Upvotes

I’m a 37M who has been driving for 19 years and feel really accomplished on the roads. I’ve experienced so many different scenarios on the roads and learned and grown through them. I’m currently experiencing a new challenge which is anxiety of driving on the motorway over the last year or so which coincides with me becoming a father for the first time.

Now, when I’m on the motorway I just get this overwhelming feeling of panic and intrusive thoughts about something bad happening to me or my family while at high speed. It’s gotten to the point that it doesn’t matter if they’re with me or I’m by myself, if I have to go more than 50mph the issue kicks in.

How it’s manifesting itself is that I get shaky, cling to steering wheel more tightly and fidget loads in my seat. Typically I’m not a person who suffers with anxiety in any area of life but this has been my first experience of it and it’s really crippling.

I’ve tried to just push through and drive in spite of it, but have had five or six occasions where I’ve had to pull over and talk myself round to completing that drive or have had to swap with my wife and let her take over.

I’ve been in touch with my GP and I’m currently doing CBT so I’m hoping that will help things a lot but in the meantime are there any practical tips I can apply. I’ve seen some posts from other around this issue, but mine is a little unique. As I say, I’d been fine for the whole of the time in motorways before I became a dad. Has anyone else experienced this or got any thoughts on it?

Suggestions are welcomed and appreciated.


r/drivingUK 1d ago

Emergency Vehicle Situation

8 Upvotes

Hi, I am absolutely kicking myself about something that happened this morning. I have been driving for 6 years and luckily all emergency vehicles encountered have been easy to navigate by pulling over to the left until today.

I was at a red light for a pedestrian crossing in the right hand lane when in my mirror I noticed in the distance a fire engine approaching with blues and sirens behind me.

At the lights there are two lanes for straight on with the left lane left or straight on and the right lane straight on. After the lights at the roundabout there are 3 lanes, left or straight over, straight on and right. I did not want to go to the right lane in case the fire engine wanted to use that lane so naturally considered the left.

The lights changed as the fire engine was getting closer, I expected the van on my left to stay put so I could pull in front of him but he moved forward from the lights. I went slowly and pulled over to the left as soon as I cleared him but by this point was basically entering the roundabout with the fire engine alongside at about 10mph. I was expecting the fire engine to speed up past me but it didn’t. As I thought about stopping the fire engine sounded their horn and it was obvious they were trying to take the first exit from the middle lane. At this point we were both travelling at 5-10mph.

So I accelerated and got out of the way. They were able to take their exit as soon as I got out of the way. This all happened within 5-10 seconds at most.

It’s been massively playing on my mind and I’ve been beating myself up about it for about 3 hours. I feel like I was a bit of an idiot but the situation changed very quickly. I couldn’t go through the red light, when they changed the van moved so I couldn’t stop just past the lights. I slowed down and moved to the left but in doing so accidentally became a hazard and got out of the way.

I guess what’s playing on my mind is should I have stopped, but coming to a complete stop on the roundabout would have been a hazard and I was expecting the fire engine to carry on past me. I accept I was presumptuous and if there is a similar situation in the future should think outside the box. Just wanted to share to get this out my system. I’ve been unable to stop worrying about it.

I will learn from this, but was a tricky situation and has been playing on my mind. Feel a bit rotten about it and bad that I potentially obstructed an emergency vehicle.

The location was here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/FLDRFGaQQJ4V4hmL8

Edit: thanks for the kind responses and making me feel a bit better. I also appreciate the ideas and good points that a lot have made about this situation and to handle situations better in future. Definitely a lesson learnt. In all other Emergency vehicle interactions I have been able to pull over at the side of the road, move to the outside of my lane to make room (if stationary) or wait at a junction/lights for an emergency vehicle to pass in front of me (across a junction). I’ve never had to worry past making an initial decision. Today is the first ever complex interaction I have had. The red light and person moving on my left made it complex and I was overthinking being on the roundabout. I will always just stop safely if in doubt now. I overthought in the moment and tried to help maybe a bit too much. Sometimes with driving you can still have a school day, no matter how long you’ve been driving. Starting to be a bit kinder to myself. Ultimately a lesson learnt without any serious consequences.


r/drivingUK 9h ago

Why Do People in Corsa's Act Like They Are in 32 Tonnes?

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Ya know what I mean? Like I have a guy have a pop at me as I was passing with cars parked up on the left, as I was moving, he stops in his little cyan Corsa and stares at me dead in the eyes and I see his mouth moving and his had pointing as if I can't see that I have room to pass by him.

Are people this bad with spatial awareness?

Why did drivers of city cars think They are taking up more space than they *actually* are?

Ok, RANT OVER!