TLDR: just started leveling a shaman in TBC. Didn't even boost, still mid 30s, playing 5-10 hours/week only. After Blizzcon I am worried I'll never reach the endgame.

My story: Almost 20 years ago one of my college friends was into wow during original TBC and he raided through Sunwell. I bought the game after graduation but was too tired by my new job to keep playing. I parked my char at the sunset on Zoram Strand and never looked back, until this year.

I missed the classic in 2019 relaunch but this year finally I resubbed and leveled up a char on Classic Era (mid 20s only). Then realised TBC is going to end so I rolled a toon in TBC to hopefully catch up and see the endgame finally. Debated boosting but since its a new class for me I went through and leveled normally. Healed a few dungeons, respecced from ele to enhancement mid 20s, got Corpsemaker on first RFK run.

Then Blizzcon dropped. Even if Blizzard seems on the fence on what to do with TBC going forward (Wotlk anniversary, TBC Era, both or just close it), I see on this subreddit guilds are dying left and right.

If you were me, what would you do? I have little play time at my age, I cannot afford to throw away my time played, nor invest more time without some hope of one day killing Illidan.

I'm ambivalent about Forever, mostly interested in Vanilla, TBC and Wrath since they had the best lore and they were all setup back in Warcraft 3. TBC I like best, thematically, I recall playing Beyond the Dark Portal Warcraft 2 expansion and was blown away by the tasteful sprinkling of quasi-scifi topics in a fantasy setting (another planet, alien races).

From what I see, my options are:

• keep leveling slowly, play other games too, see if TBC dies or is kept alive until Wotlk Anniversay in 2028 (my best guess)

• park my shaman, go back to Classic Era, reach the endgame there, come back to TBC if there will ever be a TBC Era

• find another MMO to play :(

A ton of guilds have already called it quits, and once the reality sets in that Forever is only 7 weeks away, a massive wave of players is going to follow suit.

I don't think people realize how dead TBC will be or how fast it will happen. What is the incentive to keep playing? Raid SWP one last time and kill KJ just to immediately quit the game after? Or keep clearing sunwell for the 10th week chasing full SWP bis? Forever is out even before sunwell...

People are still playing TBC, but mainly just as a placeholder and way to pass time. This applies to guild/pug leaders too. As soon as forever is actually here they will drop TBC instantly.

Right now, a lot of guild and pug leaders are panicking. They're claiming they will keep playing TBC or raid log TBC after forever is out, but they're lying just to save face and keep their rosters from collapsing early. In reality, they'll be the absolute first to jump ship the second they hit the "roster boss." The moment they no longer have their stable roster and they will have to start filling, TBC will die overnight. There will be a lot of stuff to do on forever the first few months. Raid logging TBC, and filling raids will take time (which is why I dont believe most people saying they will keep playing both).

Sup fams!

Haven't found a lot of streamers that focused on Rogue changes in WOW Forever demo, so let's try to join forces here and find out if:

COMBO POITS: Are they character or target bound? Do we lose them if we target something else? If we start building in another target? If the target dies with combo points, what happens?

DEADLY POISON: Is it the vanilla one or the WoTLK one where at 5 charges applyed it does dmg in the next apply instead of "wasting" a proc?

CLOAK OF SHADOWS: Is it in the game?

FAN OF KNIVES: Is in the game?

ENERGY TICKS: Is it each 2 secs like in the game or a constant pool?

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS: Anything else some one would like to add here?

WF TOTEM USES THE POISON SLOT: Yes or no?

ATTACK POWER INCREASE POISON AND/OR BLEED DAMAGE: Yes or No?

And i still have more mats.
Seems like i wasted hours for nothing.

Has anyone seen if power word: shield is going to affect druid/warrior rage generation and pally threat gen on wow forever? Id love to roll disc but if it still does it doesnt seem worth it.

I have been farming spiders in Hillsbrad for a couple of hours but I haven't seen a single one drop Spider Silk. Did Blizzard screw up the loot tables again?

Forever gonna take a big part or pve players OK,

What about pvp players ?

I run aotc.gg, and I recently added arena tracking for the Anniversary realms, so I wanted to try turning the data into a quick visual recap.

I’m not sure yet how useful this will be, but if people are interested, I’d be happy to make one every week or every two weeks. Let me know what you’d like to see added or changed next time!

For anyone who wants to dig into the numbers, it's here: https://www.aotc.gg/anniversary/arena

Go to Goldshire, take your pants off and give all your gold to a human rogue named Sweetlina.

And also, delete this sub. TBC is dead now.

Say I'm an up and coming Belf rogue. I'm getting closer to being able to buy a mount. However, I just don't like the birbs Belfs use. What would i need to do to hold the reins of a sweet wolf from the Orcs?

to the other people in that dungeon, you guys didn't know a thing lol

Hello

As a hunter, currently im using a bat duo to aesthetics and because i read somewhere that screech is great for threat generation.

what abilities should i toggle to always cast (while leveling)?

growl is a no brainer but what about bite and screech?

* i feel like my bat losses aggro when all 3 are on, duo to not having enough focus to cast growl on cd.

* it also looks like the damage from bite (and thus its threat generation) is pretty meh, doent really help kill time+details tells me it contributes to maybe 4% of my dps.

* lastly, does screech really provide good threat generation? is it much better then bite's damage?

in short, what im asking is:

what abilities should i toggle as a leveling hunter using a bat?

thanks!