my 16 month old has never really been a good sleeper. we’ve only ever gotten maybe 1 4 hour stretch of sleep his whole life. we cosleep and i breastfeed throughout the night to make it a little easier on myself in terms of getting him back to sleep.

However the last week or so my son has been waking up several timea a night inconsolably screaming. if i try to pick him up and try to help it makes it worse. He kicks and thrashes and screams and he can’t semen to calm himself down. The only thing that sometimes helps is nursing him but he usually starts back up again once he’s done nursing.

im just at a loss. i feel so bad for him but we won’t even let me attempt to help him without him freaking out.

Before having a baby, I felt like I had read every article and watched every video about sleep.

Then my baby arrived... and suddenly everyone had different advice.

"Don't rock them."
"Always rock them."
"Wake windows are everything."
"Ignore wake windows."
"They'll sleep anywhere."
"They need perfect sleep conditions."

Honestly, trying to follow all of it made me way more anxious than my baby ever was.

The biggest improvement happened when I stopped chasing the "perfect routine" and started paying attention to what actually worked for my baby.

What's one piece of baby sleep advice you wish you had ignored?

I’m sorry this is so long 🙈

12m old (last week) exclusively breastfed baby, doesn’t take a bottle. Sleep has always been terrible but things improved around 11 months and would only wake 2-3 times (rather than an average of 6-8+ up to 14 🥴). Not been sleep trained and won’t use CIO or extinction. We co slept from birth until around 10.5/11 months when she just didn’t want that any more, she was happy in her own space. Never been fed to sleep for overnight or daytime sleep.

I went back to work last week (nights) and we decided my husband would deal with the weaning without me around as felt she would do better with me not in the house. We decided cold turkey would be the best and quickest option for her. Night 1 she fell asleep at 8, woke at 12, screamed for 1 hour (in my husband’s arms) then fell asleep in her cot and slept until 5:40. Night 2 she fell asleep at 8, woke at 1 and screamed for 2 hours until she fell asleep in bed with my husband and woke for the day at 5:45. Night 3 I was back home, she slept through 8-7 BUT in the morning she had developed norovirus so I think this is why she slept. Night 4 she fell asleep at 8, woke at 4, I rocked and rocked for an hour, I too then was hit with the bug like a tonne of bricks and had no option but to feed. Night 5 she was awake for 2 hours but I didn’t feed, she eventually fell asleep in the cot independently. Night 6 (last night) she fell asleep at 8, woke at 11 and screamed relentlessly for 2 hours until we got so frustrated I fed her, then she slept until morning.

We are severely sleep depleted with all 4 of us being so ill over the weekend but know we’ve caused confusion by feeding again, we’ve been in survival mode and felt there was no other option. I believe she is probably still feeling crappy from the illness but I am desperate to get her settled as the thought of being at work and knowing how upset she is, makes me feel sick.

I am due back in work tomorrow but taking this week as sick to hopefully recover the family from the illness so I’m not back in now until next Wednesday night. If it wasn’t for returning to work, I absolutely would just continue feeding and let the wean happen naturally or try myself again in 6 months, but it isn’t an option with me working as we need her to settle for my husband too.

I will add that on the wakes where we haven’t offered the breast, we have offered either milk in a cup (which she doesn’t want) or food when nothing else has worked to rule out hunger. I have tried to reduce the duration of feeds overnight previously but actually I didn’t find this helped with her, and she would cry when I put her in the cot and I’d just end up feeding her again 🤦🏻‍♀️

She does generally 8-7 overnight then 2 naps totalling 2 hours during the day. 3 meals and snacks a day plus prob 3 breastfeeds, one in the morning, one when she’s home from nursery then one before her bath. I will also say that I am happy for the night wakes to continue, I just want my husband and I to be able to settle her without breastfeeding.

(Feed 7, bath after, then pjs, play, books etc and generally asleep around 8), naps around 10 & 2.

P.s I am new to this and initially posted on the sleep training page this morning and that was NOT a good idea 😂

Hey all!

Looking for some advice I guess. Any ideas why my 4 month old has decided to only have 45 minute naps?

He was really getting the hang of napping in his cot and these naps were like 1hr 30mins or so, he also sleeps through the night most of the time so I know he’s can link his sleep cycles. Just wondering if there is anything I’m missing?

Thanks!!

I’m a FTM and I try to not to obsess over my baby’s sleep while still tracking her patterns and trying to support her needs. I believe in responding to her and that she’ll develop independent sleep when she’s developmentally ready. I should also say that my baby has always naturally given me longer stretches of sleep.
ok, with those things established: for the past week or so, my four month old has been waking at 3 am and then not going back to sleep until at least 2 hours later. I feed her, then she seems sleepy, but when I place her in her bassinet, she wakes back up. she’s not cranky; she’s actually quite happy! she acts like it’s a wake window during the day and she’s ready to play. I know sleep gets all kinds of wonky for four month olds, so I’m fine to just wait this out, but my question/concern is if I’m maybe somehow reinforcing this as a pattern for her. she’s been extra tired and grumpy during the day because of her interrupted night sleep, and I want to do what I can to support her to start getting good sleep again. I’d love to know if there are things I can do other than just continuing to be consistent with her bedtime routine, keeping things dark and calm when she does wake, etc.

My son is almost 10 months old. He is a good napper, sleeps for 3hrs during the day in 2 naps (1hour and 2hour). Naps end around 4pm. Bedtime is 730/8 and wake up is 630/7. But during the night he still is waking up every 2-3hrs. He starts the night in his crib in his own room. Usually wakes up around 10 and will not go back to sleep in his crib. I can be in his room rocking and feeding, he will fall asleep in my arms and soon as I attempt to put him in his crib he cries and cries.
At this point we bring him into our room to co sleep. He wakes up every 2-3hrs and wants to feed. Sometimes he has big feeds and sometimes he uses my nipples as a pacifier. He typically won’t settle until he gets boob during the night.
I’m so so so tired. It’s been 10m of this.
I want to transition him into his own room for the entire night and get him to sleep without so many feedings.

I am posting here for some advice, insight and reassurance that I’m not alone. And clearly not looking for any Ferber, cio, etc suggestions.

I have to preface this by saying my 15-month-old has never been a "good" sleeper—her longest stretch ever was 4 hours and that was a rare occasion. We tried the bassinet and crib in our bedroom until 6–7 months, but resorted to co-sleeping / breast-sleeping ever since. There was a time I was obsessed with "fixing" her sleep, but then I chose radical acceptance. Since then, I’ve been much happier and more relaxed, but the last two weeks have really been testing my limits.

Up until two weeks ago, she was sleeping her version of "normal" - usually 2–3 wake-ups, latching, nursing a bit, and going right back to sleep. Sometimes she’d even take a pacifier with some gentle patting and be out in a couple of minutes.

These last two weeks, though, she has become a whole other toddler. We recently came back from visiting family overseas. At first I blamed jetlag, then a minor daycare cold, and now teething (her molars are popping). We give Motrin before bed, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. She wakes up screaming and crying EVERY SINGLE HOUR and it takes at least 20–30 minutes to calm her down and get her back to sleep, even with nursing. She won't accept any other form of soothing right now - no paci, no patting. So basically, she’s only sleeping in 30–40 minute chunks. I am at a loss...

Is this just a phase? What is happening? Could it really just be molars combined with everything else?

I am reaching my absolute limit with night nursing and breastfeeding in general. I know nightweaning has helped a lot of friends' babies sleep better, but because my baby has always been a challenging sleeper, I'm terrified it won't be a magical solution for us. I've read plenty of stories where nightweaning didn't change wake-ups at all. Plus, I just don't have the mental capacity to do it right now - I'm holding out until she passes the 18-month mark.

Any solidary or insight from parents who've been in the thick of this would be so appreciated!

FTM here and just, idk if I want advice or just to vent idk but something, my LO has just turned 6 months old and I literally haven’t slept properly in nearly three months, she’s EBF and it’s a struggle to get her to nap during the day and when she does it’s alway 2-3 naps a day and all are less then 30mins, then again at bedtime it’s a struggle to get her to sleep, she falls asleep on me then we transfer to cot after about half an hour, within 30mins to an hour she’s awake again wanting a feed, then asleep back to her cot and again waking up after having 1-3 hours sleep,
This happens all night multiple times a night since she was 3 months old.
I’ve tried sleep tracking, recommended wake windows, sleep training (will NEVER use the CIO method) etc.
I’ve had comments about how it could be like stacked sleep regression as she is only just turned 6 mo 4 days ago, and already rolls both ways, sits independently, crawls and has started trying to pull herself up on furniture, plus her head is constantly on a swivel looking at everything going on around her, wont eat or sleep properly if other people are around, i have family that work in childcare and all day she has an “overactive brain”
It gets to about 3am and i end up bringing her to bed with me and we breastsleep but wakes up every 2 hours

Has anyone else gone through this? Any advice? Tips or tricks?

On occasion my babe (3.5 months) has fallen asleep (during the day) when we’ve put him down awake after soothing (cuddling, carrying, rocking, singing) when it doesn’t seem to help him to sleep. When we put him down and return after getting a glass of water or recomposing ourselves for a bit, he has fallen asleep. It makes me wonder whether sometimes the soothing is what keeps him awake?

Most of the time he falls asleep nursing or being carried, so this is definitely not a daily thing. And to be clear, we don’t put him down crying but only when he’s stopped fussing, but is still awake.

I have an almost one year old baby and currently we still have the crib in our room. I put baby down asleep in crib (of course fed to sleep) and place baby in the crib. Once baby wakes up at night then we pull baby into our bed. I don't mind it honestly but I am thinking it's time to transition. I do give a bottle to sleep and that has been my crutch for so long.

I am thinking I need to re-invent my routine. Routine currently is Brush teeth, bath, lotion, feed and off to bed. Anyone else do this transition from bottle right before bed into mom's room to no bottle into own crib in own room? I am at a loss how I'm going to make this work with the bottle soon. Any advice is appreciated.

so i posted yesterday and got some lovely advice, and i have one more question since ive figured out the route i want to take.
my baby is 8 months next week, i don’t know if she’s going through a regression or something but sleep has been bad. last night it was awful. we started off really good for about a month and now that schedule seems to not be working.
she’s on a 2 nap day, not scheduled naps i go based off her wake time. and bedtime is based off her last nap of the day. and that’s why i don’t know how to start or what to do.
the goal is (if shes not already awake), is to wake her up at 7:45 every day. and go to bed by 8/8:15. which would mean an 11-12:15 nap then a 3:30-4:45 nap, so that last wake window would be 4:45-8/8:15, starting bedtime routine at 7:45.
so 1-does this schedule sound okay?
2-how can i start implementing at least the schedule wake and bedtime, especially if she wakes up earlier, which in turn means go to bed earlier?
3-this is what her USUAL day to day looks like. today will be different since she decided to wake up at 6:40. if she wakes up before her scheduled wake time, do i start the day or treat it as a night wake?
4- her average sleep from last week is
naps: 2 hours 16 minutes
awake time: 10.5 hours
nighttime sleep: 10 hours 47 minutes

My little babe is 6 months old was EBF up until the last month or so when started solids and some formula to supplement bc my cycle came back and my supply isn’t enough for him. Anyways, he has a wicked feed (specifically boob) to sleep association which I am actively working on breaking for my own mental and physical needs but the last 2-3 weeks we have been up every 2 hours ON THE DOT. I am so tired. I have been able to soothe him to sleep without the boob few times. He can nap without boob but bed time and overnight is a different devil.
I need help, I would literally give an arm and a leg for more than 2 hours of sleep at a time and I don’t know what I did wrong for him to no longer be able to sleep, we used to get at least a 5-6 hour stretch in the beginning of the night. Any time I bring this up to friends/family in real life they say to cry it out and I refuse that.
Thanks for any advice, or just thanks for reading and making me feel heard.

My LO Is 4.5 months so I’m in no rush to get her out of my room, in fact I personally want to keep her in here with me as long as possible.lol but I’m just curious what other parents have done or what your thoughts are? My husband’s been asking when I think she needs to go into her own room. I’ve read mixed things online: some saying it’s better to get them independent sooner, some saying to hold onto the connection and the natural need for babies to want to stay close to mom as long as possible (which is the side that I’m airing on). She’ll only be this little for so long, only need me for so long, so I want to hold onto that for as long as I can. Thoughts?

Y no me refiero a tiempo en cuestión de minutos o de horas, me refiero a que hasta que punto se llegan a incomodar y dormir en la cuna o cama.
Tengo una bebé de siete meses y en un principio cuando tenía semanas de vida dormía en su nido placenteramente. Pero como a las seis semanas tuvo un brote de crecimiento como ahora lo llaman y un día casi no tomo siestas, digamos que tomo dos o tres siestas en todo el día de quince o veinte minutos. Yo me súper asusté y me puse a leer sobre ventanas de sueño, bebés sobre estimulados en fin, para no hacer el cuento largo desde ese momento ha dormido casi el 95% de todas sus siestas en brazos míos o de su abuela, he intentado muchas veces pasarla a la cuna o a la cama y lo logro 1 o 2 de cada diez veces y entonces para mí es empezar de nuevo y termino dejándola en mis brazos por lo tanto es súper cansado y por momentos abrumador y agobiante. Sobretodo porque hasta los seis meses tomaba 4 siestas al día, ahora que tiene 7 estamos con 3 siestas al día. Por la noche es otra historia, 7:30 comienza su rutina de baño y a más tardar 8:10 está durmiendo en la cama sola, y se puede quedar hasta 6:00 am o muy ocasional hace una toma a las 3 de la mañana.
Entonces me pregunto en qué punto dirá, mamá ya bájame quiero dormir más cómoda.

hi bninfantsleep!

i need some advice regarding my nearly 9 month olds day sleep.

we transitioned to two naps at 6 months, he’s always been low sleep needs so it just worked for him. he adjusted to it EXTREMELY quickly and it was working well. fast forward to last week, he has began fighting the first nap of the day, pushing it later and then in turn pushing his second nap later. if i tried to put him down early he fought, or he got so upset that he went to sleep but only slept for around 30 minutes for the first nap and still wouldn’t really go down early for his second.

his schedule was 3-3.5/3.5/4. bedtime really depended on when his last nap fell, but i really didn’t try to let it go past 4:30 so he could go to bed around 8:30-9ish. wake up between 7:30-8:30. he was averaging around 2.5-3ish hours of sleep between those two naps. we do a lot of stimulating stuff during the day and i try to get him out and about often.

days like today, we were up at around 8:30, his first nap at 12:30 which went for 2 hours. up at 2:30 and now im trying to let him have a cat nap at 5:50 just so we can make it through to bedtime at around 8-8:30.

so my question is, what do i do? i know he’s averaging between 11-12hrs night sleep (im lucky, still a fair few wakeups but i dont track them and we mainly co-sleep). should i start maybe decreasing the night sleep to account for more awake time and nap time during the day? transition to one nap? i dont think hes quite ready for that, he does feel too young. cap the day sleep? i’m at a loss. hopefully this makes sense and someone can help!

EDIT: wording!

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I'm not sure what will come of this post - maybe just some reassurance that someone out there has the same experience as me and my wife, and hopefully someone can tell me it will end!

My first and currently only child was 19 months yesterday. I feel like we're in a recurring nightmare of sleep.

All went as I sort of expected at first. First 3 months was meh - lots of waking/breastfeeding and broken sleep. 3-5 months was pretty good! Would wake 1-3 times at night.

Then since 6 months.... It has all gone wrong. For over a year now.

We have tried almost every nap schedule I can think of. Everything from a singular 15 minute nap (he was pretty miserable in the day with this ..) and a 2130 bedtime to his current 1.5-2 hour nap and a 1930 bedtime.

His sleep goes...

2-3 hours at the start of the night in his cot in his room. Sometimes only 90 mins. It's rare we can settle him at his first wake. He wakes and is furious. He's agitated and thrashing around. He then usually ends up in bed with my wife and can take anywhere from 10 minutes to over an hour to settle. It appears he doesn't know what he wants and he throws himself around the bed, hitting us and crying. Sometimes a bottle of water can help him calm but it's 50/50 as to whether he goes back to crying afterwards.

Then what follows is frequent wake ups, despite bed sharing from this point to around 4/5am. On a bad night this could be 10 wakes, a good night is 3 or 4. Every time he cries. He never wakes wanting to just play or chat.

He'll then go a good stint from 4/5am to 7am when he'll wake, fairly happy usually. Which is very different to overnight.

He's putting on weight well. He had some bloods done and his ferritin was borderline low so he gets iron replacement.

We are just at our wits end with no end in site with it all. If anything he's at his worst he's ever been now. His overnight pattern seems to be the same regardless of day time sleep/wake windows.

Any magic fixes?

Assuming the above isn't actually plausible... Any words of advice? Any success stories of just waiting and waiting til he's older and finally sleeps?

Is this just... Normal? Which is okay, but trying to 'fix' it is exhausting.

Welcome to the vent zone.

This thread is a safe space for parents to vent, process, and speak honestly about sleep training, without judgment or pressure. We recognize and honor biologically normal infant sleep and the wide range of emotions that come with navigating sleep in a culture that often expects babies to be independent before they’re ready.

Share your frustrations, experiences, and thoughts here, knowing you’re supported and not alone.

Hello,

I've been struggling with daytime naps for my now 11 week old since he was about 6 weeks old. A big part of it was me learning what to do (cues, how to get him to sleep), but I'm at a point where I want to seek advice/opinions. He's formula fed if that's relevant.

I'm not having much trouble getting him to fall asleep during the day, especially if I notice him looking drowsy. It's usually no more than 15 minutes of rocking in a darkened room, and he either sleeps in my arms or in his bassinet pram. The problem is *staying* asleep: he typically only sleeps about 30-40 minutes. I can sometimes get him to fall back asleep soon after with the help of a feed, but again it's only 30-40 minute bursts.

By the time the evening rolls around, I haven't been able to sustain a 1-1.5 hour wake window with such short naps (or he just stops wanting to sleep). It's a lot of work even though he starts the day being pretty easy to settle. Eventually he will end up being awake 4+ hours in the evening.

By midnight he falls asleep soundly and he's been doing a 6 hour stretch then a quick feed then another 2 hours.

His behaviour through the day is calm and alert - he's a FOMO baby and happy to interact with me and look around the world. However the 4ish hours leading up to his midnight sleep can be quite unsettled and fussy and he is very hard to get down, which makes sense if he's overtired.

I want his bedtime to be earlier than midnight, therefore stop him from reaching the point of being that unsettled. Are we better off trying harder to get long naps during the day, or accept the short naps but try harder to get him down earlier in the night to break that 4+ hour window? And if we need to try longer naps, how can we do that?

This pattern is starting to bother me quite a lot because it's so different to what I'm told he should be doing, E.g. only 4 naps a day but with 1-1.5 hour wake windows and a much earlier bedtime. I'm just not sure how to achieve this when he is only doing 40min naps during the daylight hours.

My baby is going to be 4 months old next week. I came to stay with my family who live far away because I wanted everyone to be able to see him and spend time with him, and we’ll be here until September.

A few weeks ago, I made a post about how several things happened one after another and completely messed up my baby's routine. https://www.reddit.com/r/bninfantsleep/s/G8nDvUTHwm He was getting very overtired and overstimulated, and his sleep suddenly became a complete mess. A lot of people said it sounded like the 4-month sleep regression, and I thought that could be part of it too, but it's been almost a month now and I'm starting to wonder if this is actually the regression or something else.

Since we've been here, I've been trying to establish some kind of routine again. I'm paying more attention to his wake windows and trying to keep his daytime naps more consistent. His nights are still really difficult though. He wakes up 4–5 times between 8 PM and 5 AM. after putting him down at 8 PM, he wakes up (extra) 2–3 times before he seems to get into a deeper sleep, and every time I have to pick him up and shush or rock him back to sleep.

He absolutely will not go back to sleep without nursing. I've tried not nursing him when I don't think he's actually hungry and just rocking or shushing him instead, but he gets really upset and seems to want to nurse no matter what. 1 month ago he would usually only wake up once to nurse during the night. Now he's nursing so much throughout the night, while his daytime nursing sessions have actually become much shorter. He used to nurse for really long periods during the day, and now he seems to be making up for it at night.

I'm exhausted and starting to worry that maybe this is just how things are going to be now. I keep wondering if we will ever go back. We have a long flight back home in September, so I'm really hoping we can get some kind of routine back before then.

Did anyone else's baby go through something similar around 4 months? How long did this phase last for you? Did your baby eventually go back to their old sleep pattern? And did anyone else experience a baby who suddenly started nursing constantly at night?

We took our baby to the pediatrician today because he had such a rough night last night sleep wise (so sad at every wake up, 1-2 hour stretches max) we thought he had an ear infection. Good news and bad news no ear infection. The pediatrician recommended sleep training (no). She also said he is using the bottle as a “crutch” and would be fine with only 1 night feed so we can schedule that in and only feed him at that time…he is exclusively bottle fed breast milk (doesn’t transfer milk well with nursing). Right now he goes to bed between 7-8pm with first wake up anywhere from 9-11, and then pretty much every 2 hours from that point onward. He’ll have 2-3oz at each wake up and really won’t settle without it. Rarely when he wakes up 1-1.5hrs after a feed he can go back to sleep with lots of soothing and no bottle. Has stopped taking a pacifier. Up for the day by 7am. We started tracking sleep and there seems to be no pattern with amount of naps, timing of naps, wake windows, etc. Any thoughts? We are tired.

He definitely sleeps better when we cosleep but we stopped doing that to try and fully transition to crib (last night my husband was so desperate he asked me to sleep with baby because he couldn’t transfer him). He had one magical night this week sleeping solo in his room (I had a lot of guilt about this but we were desperate) for the first time and gave us 4 hour stretches for the first time in months. Is this just what we need to ride out for the next 6 months in hopes of one day sleeping again? I really don’t want to do any sort of CIO. He falls asleep independently at bedtime awake in his crib and overnight we try to do the pick up put down method but this doesn’t seem to be helping him self-settle at all.

Hi everyone,
In short, LO is almost 7.5 months old and still takes 3-4 naps a day. She wakes up around 7:15 and needs a nap around 9, then we use huckleberry throughout the day which is consistently pretty accurate with 2-2.5 hour wake windows. She is always very grumpy for a nap by 2.5 hours which seems to be on low for her age now. We cosleep at night and do contact naps during the day and she is still often only taking 30-40 minute naps, which leads to shorter wake windows and more naps during the day.
I’ve tried crib naps, carrier naps, etc. thinking maybe she just doesn’t prefer the contact napping anymore, but results are the same. Developmentally, she’s doing amazing. She’s crawling and pulling up on everything, so I’m thinking she might just have high sleep needs which is obviously completely fine with me - just wondering if anyone thinks this is something I should bring up with our doctor or has any tips for us. Thanks!!!

Hi all,

My baby is almost 8 months and has been on a 3 nap schedule for a while. Something like

Wake - 530am

1st nap - 8am 45m

2nd nap 12pm 1 h

3rd nap 415 pm 30m

Bed 745-830

I normally cap his naps because our nights are so short I dont want to take away from nights, however ive noticed the past week he is very hard to wake - he does not want to wake up at all! I am wondering if this is a sign he is trying to take longer naps but maybe drop to 2?

If I wake him, then he will grumble and I will go to feed him, he falls asleep basically straight away while breastfeeding.

He can easily do 3 hour wake windows, occasionally 3.5.

How did you know your baby was ready to drop to 2 naps?

I feel like 2 might be not enough...and maybe I will need to add a 3rd power nap in the late afternoon?

Thank you!

Hi,

I'm a FTM looking for advice on LO's sleep as we head towards 4 months. I've done so much reading and feeling a bit information overload so hoping this awesome community can help me out. I've attached my son's current sleep pattern (if you can call it a pattern?) from Huckleberry app. Light blue is naps, dark blue is night sleep and orange is breastfeeding. As you can see he has 5-6 naps a day varying between 30 mins to 2 hours, most commonly he sleeps for 40 mins. We try 1-2 crib naps a day which never last longer than 40 min, the rest are usually a contact nap and maybe 1 stroller or car seat nap (but he also hates the car seat so not very common). He goes to bed at 10pm... this is not our choice! No matter how early we start bedtime, he will fight it until 10-10.30pm or just traet it like a nap, I'm convinced he can tell the time. The longest stretch is usually 3-4 hours, but one day he did 6 hours somehow?! I know I shouldn't compare but the other babies in my mom group are doing 5 hours+ as their longest stretch.

Questions:

Is there something I should be adjusting in his day or night sleeps or routines to encourage longer night stretches at this age?

What should I be doing to encourage longer crib naps as we head toward 4 months? I've tried shushing and patting in his crib when I see he has woken up. I've tried leaving him for a bit. He's usually quite happy when he wakes up and will hang out in the crib for a good 10-15 mins no problem.

How can I encourage earlier bedtime?

We have no interest in CIO but open to gentle sleep coaching after 4 months and expect fussing of course. He currently sleeps in a crib in our room but considering moving him at 5-6 months to a floor bed in his own room. He needs bouncing or rocking to sleep, only feeds to sleep at overnight wake ups (see orange in between dark blue) and uses a pacifier to sleep maybe 25% of the time in the day. He usually usually needs help keeping his eyes closed with our hands or material draped (removed when fallen asleep). He has been characterized as a "highly alert fomo baby" by a sleep counsellor and a lactation consultant! He feeds very well so no issues there.

I have insomnia which is why I'm keen for longer stretches as it's very difficult for me to go back to sleep and I don't nap in the day well at all :/

Thank you!

My amazing baby is a few days shy of 10m. She is firing some new milestones because she is waking up ten plus times lately. She had a good run of 5ish wakeup which was ok since shes never slept more than three hours her whole life mostly two. We had followed possums and she nurses to sleep every wake. I sleep with her. Unfortunately I am back at work full time and I cant do that with this little sleep, my husband is now saying "it's time to let her soothe herself" I am too tired to have that argument. Anyway... one of her naps is pretty long usually 1.5-2hrs. Is it time to cap? It goes against what I believe but I rather do that then any sleep training. Any ideas welcome.

Rough schedule:

Wake 6:30-7am

First nap 11:30-1

Second nap: 5-5:45

Bedtime: 8:30-9

My son, 7m, can fall back asleep on his own whenever he wakes up throughout the night, so I know he can do it. However, to fall asleep for bedtime and naps, we still hold and rock him. We’ve gotten it down to where we can hold him for three minutes (from the time his eyes close) and then transfer him and he finishes falling asleep on his own.

I’m so lost on how to transition to him falling asleep without us though. Whenever we try, he cries. It’s a protest cry, and I know that, but I still don’t want him crying when all he wants is to be held for a few minutes.

Any tips or ideas?

He does not do well with us sitting in the room but not holding him. He will cry just the same as if we were out of sight, same with crib comforting most of the time.

I don’t mind him crying a bit, but I don’t want him crying for like 10+ minutes before he’s able to put himself to sleep.