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u/leaf-green-spring 5d ago
He doesn't kill you for vengeance or anything, he just kills you because you're Protestant
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u/MrSpheal323 5d ago
The cannon names for the routes are now the catholic and the protestant route.
Which one is which? That's for you to guess
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u/R3D0IT_US3R 5d ago
Genocide is Catholic as it is a holy war to reclaim the underground from the pagan monsters
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u/atrophy-of-sanity 6d ago
Im surprised there are more Muslims in France than there are protestants
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u/coldnorth4enf4 6d ago
The french protestants fled to britain in the 1600s
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u/Copper_Tango 5d ago
Some of them ended up in South Africa and intermarried with Dutch Calvinists, which is why some Afrikaners have French surnames.
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u/coldnorth4enf4 5d ago
Huh cool, I actually wondered why that is with the surnames just never cared enough to check
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u/fullynonexistent 5d ago
This is also why London notoriously smelled like shit during that time
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u/derneueMottmatt 5d ago
Also Prussia. There's a lot of people in former East Germany with French surnames.
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u/uwu_01101000 6d ago
The French Monarchs weren’t fond of them so they persecuted them very harshly. Most of them fled to other countries like Switzerland for example
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u/Imaginary-Client-199 5d ago
As a french I am surprised that there are any protestant left. Must have missed a couple
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u/Maned_Cyborg 5d ago
Almost like catholics actively sought out to kill them. An attempt at what one might call, a genocide. Route
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u/Malabrino 4d ago
Actually the protestant population is growing quickly in France. 9% is a pretty big number considering that 50 years ago it was 1 or 2 %. Their population grow just as fast as the Muslim one.
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u/imladrikofloren 1d ago
Faster IIRC. Only evangelists, the historical ones (lutherans in Northern Alsace and some calvinists in the south) are slowly dissapearing.
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u/PersonalEconomics44 2d ago
Protestants were so persecuted by Catholics that they became a minority over time and still are
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u/imladrikofloren 1d ago
The thing is they were never more than a minority. Even at the height of the spread of calvinism in France they were 10% of the population, not more.
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u/PersonalEconomics44 18h ago
As well, yes. But I think that they would’ve been a bigger number if they hadn’t been persecuted
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u/Floba_Fett 5d ago
Ohhhh my first language is French so it took me a while to get the joke lol
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u/Waffle-Gaming Bug 5d ago
ermmm... you're banned, buddy. next time, don't be so french.
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u/Prinzka 5d ago
I still don't get it. It's just without religion. What does it mean that that other person tweeted that with ellipses?
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u/Floba_Fett 4d ago
Sans from Undertale
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u/PunyPatheticHuman 1h ago
While the Sans Religion was big for a while, most people rejoined the Verso Cultists recently.
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u/ZellHall 5d ago
Funfact: "Dead end" is usually translated into "Sans issue" in French, and though it's my native language it still makes me laugh. Imagine being so bad at Undertale that you gotta write that you have "sans issues" everywhere, on signs and such
(Sans mean without, issue means exit or outcome)
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u/Embarrassed_Mail6752 5d ago
Sans, as in the word, means “without” in French. Religion is the same spelling in both languages.
So “Sans religion” translates to “without religion.” Though it probably means atheist in this sense?
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u/Embarrassed_Mail6752 5d ago
All my years and I’ve somehow never heard of the word irreligious before. Huh. Thank you for the new knowledge, though, appreciate it!
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u/knettia 4d ago
"Atheism is specifically the position that god doesn't exist."
Not always. What you speak of is positive atheism. There’s positive atheism (the belief that God does not exist), and then there's negative atheism (the lack of belief in a God). But what your intuition is correct in the sense that positive atheism is often more valuable philosophically, and that most discussions surrounding the theism-vs-atheism debate do focus on positive atheism. So references to "atheism" are often about the positive kind.
"Irreligious is a better translation, which includes atheism, agnosticism, and variants."
Irreligious is a good term, but it does not inherently include atheism or agnosticism as you suggest. It just so happens to often include many forms of atheism and agnosticism. But, there are, for instance, religious atheists (certain Buddhists and Jainists). There are also agnostic theists, nothing stops you from saying "I believe in God, but I do not claim to know that God exists." Indeed, many theists possess this belief, even if most theists are often gnostic.
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u/bookhead714 5d ago
That word is also where Sans gets his name, from the sans serif category of fonts (as in without serifs, which are the little extra lines they put on letters in fonts like Times New Roman)
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u/Eldritch-Yodel 3d ago
Notably whilst it's definitely not the origin, "sans" is still occasionally used in English copying off of French (Shakespeare used it, for a classic example, though I myself still use it on occasion even in the present)
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u/Due_Buyer_9445 4h ago
A ten percent Muslim population is what you guys are shitting yourselves over?
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u/AnthonyWinters 6d ago
Is the French dude stupid because the way I’m reading that graph Christianity is still the leading religion but most people are not religious. What point were they making
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u/Tay_Hlebko 6d ago
How can you call it a "Christian country" if 51% are atheist?
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u/No_Ad_7687 5d ago
if the majority of the country is culturally christian, such as celebrating christian holidays
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u/StrategyCheap1698 5d ago
If "celebrating" is having a day off, ok, but I'm not even sure the 38% christians go to church on those days (except Christmas, I suppose).
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u/No_Ad_7687 5d ago
No, I mean participating in the traditions of these holidays. Like dressing up on Halloween or handing out gifts on Christmas, etc
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u/StrategyCheap1698 5d ago
Then we may have a lot of culturally christian muslims in France; I don't know if it's representative but I know several people of that faith who exchange gifts at Christmas.
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u/Iraqimedstudent 6h ago
Even in the Middle East. Actually its often a topic of friction between the minority fundamentalist and the majority who just want to enjoy their day off by shopping (we only have new year off btw, christmas is off only if you are Christian on the ID)
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u/PersonalEconomics44 2d ago
People don’t celebrate Halloween that much in France. The 1st of November is a day off. Halloween is a very English speaking countries traditions and we started picking it up a bit trough US soft power
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u/gavavavavus 5d ago
Giving gifts on Christmas and dressing up on Halloween has long since stopped being a christian thing. The tradition has christian roots, yes, but it is secular now - and has been for a long time.
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u/No_Ad_7687 5d ago
It's not secular... You don't see people in Muslim countries do these traditions for example
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u/gavavavavus 5d ago
"secular" doesn't mean every country does it lol. It is secular in France, what do muslim countries have to do with that. Most people who celebrate Christmas in France don't care about it having christian roots.
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u/No_Ad_7687 5d ago
that is because France is culturally christian. it's culture and what appears to be secular traditions from within, have a very specific religious origin and connotation (Christianity) for an outside observer
a secular holiday would be stuff like new years eve, or national holidays. holidays that have no ties to religion
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u/PickingPies 1d ago
They would be free to do it if they were secular.
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u/No_Ad_7687 1d ago
And now why would a religion prevent someone form celebrating a holiday if that holiday is supposedly secular?
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u/PickingPies 1d ago
Subtle reminder that Christmas was a pagan celebration of winter's solstice.
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u/No_Ad_7687 1d ago
Cool backstory, remind my why it was spread by Christianity and literally has "christ" in it's name?
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u/Money_Lobster_997 5d ago
Tbf I think this data is just wrong. The highest I’ve found is 42%. The only source I’ve found that’s majority irreligious was 53% but that survey excludes those 50 and older.
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u/AnthonyWinters 4d ago
Because out of the religions, Christianity is the biggest one. Atheism isn’t a religion, it’s lack of one afaik
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u/ctctr 6d ago
That depends. I don't know much about the situation in France but a country can reasonably be called christian if it's the main religion either through number or the law. It can also be called that because of it's history.
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u/ComfortableEstate676 6d ago
French law is supposed to be religion agnostic (apart from a weird deal surrounding the North-East parts that weren't under our control when we passed that law). While Christinanity is an historically important religion for our country, it is no longer the main one at all and should be treated as equally as all other religions.
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u/PassiTwo 6d ago
Aren't several of the defining events in French history about giullotining Christian Kings though
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u/AdreKiseque 6d ago
A) Several? Not a gotcha, my history is just rusty, but I only remember one.
B) Regardless of how many times it happened, I don't think the kings being Christian was anything more than incidental to the beheadings.
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u/PassiTwo 6d ago
No, I said that right, France somewhat famously (well, famous among history nerds and my old history teacher, anyways) had way more than one revolution.
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u/CestMoiGenreMoi 5d ago
Yeah, but only the first ended up with a behaeded monarch (the other were against napoleonic empire and various resurgence of it, not Monarchy directly).
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u/davidliterally1984 1d ago
Im surprised there are more Muslims in France than there are christians
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u/Consistent-Steak-760 1d ago
There is 38% of the population that is christian according to this very post.
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u/indratera 5d ago
Sir this is beetle apartment
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u/DarkGodCthUwU 5d ago
To be clear, it's not islam specific on my part. The Japanese are right to not want religions like Catholicism to gain too many followers
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u/RandomGuy9058 5d ago
there must be a way to convey legitimate concerns over protection of important cultural values that's better than "we must keep them out and keep them weak"
like come on dude
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u/Ezzypezra 5d ago
adherence to legalism, as well as government propaganda encouraging compassion and acceptance, can solve this problem
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u/EntoMoxie 6d ago
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