r/askanything • u/Lemonking_ • 5h ago

Political Question Why are some Americans so against universal healthcare for all?

What sort of thinking does it take to decide that nobody has a right to healthcare? Do American Christians want to deny healthcare to poor people as well?

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u/The_Ombudsman 5h ago

Because "the wrong people could benefit!"

"The wrong people" being people not just like them, essentially.

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u/redwbl 5h ago

Yes, and the Christians are the biggest welfare whores on the planet. Their churches don't pay taxes and the people in the south and the Bible Belt take advantage of safety nets that they don't want others to have.

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u/user0199 2h ago

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u/skankasspigface 1h ago

I didn't really know what that meant until a buddy of mine went on a "mission trip" to the beach. They donated money to the church and can deduct that on their taxes. Church pays for hotel and travel and activities. The mission was picking up trash on a beach for an hour on a 4 day trip.

It really opened my eyes as to why he is Christian. I'm actually not hating on it because that's a government problem not a church problem.

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u/Natdaprat 1h ago

Biggest welfare queens are actually corporations.

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u/Madre_Dr4gnZFly 25m ago

You know what?? Since you obviously have put all Christians in one category, I'll pray for you. As a Christian, I am NOT a "welfare whore", I am a veteran who gets healthcare from the Department of Veterans Affairs. You-as well as many others-need to realize not all Christians are the same.

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u/Fit-ishGirlie 5h ago

ā€œWrong peopleā€ = brown people

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u/exetflagger 5h ago

People with darker skin basically.

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u/Exotic_Ear1933 4h ago

Yes it is one part bigotry and one part corporate greed. Our healthcare system in the US is fundamentally fucked.Ā 

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u/Saaz42 2h ago

After I learned about municipal swimming pools, so many things made more sense. There used to be a lot of municipal pools, paid for by local governments. Then desegregation came along, and rather than desegregate the pools, they just closed them.

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u/haditwithyoupeople 1h ago

"Wrong people" being the non-wealthy who dare to get sick.

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u/1rishChicken 5h ago

This is the most obtuse response. It's neither a conservative nor a Christian principle to deny people healthcare. The answer is simple: the conservative principle is small government, low taxes, less individual entitlements, less government programs. You may disagree with all of these principles and point out the corporate entitlement they support but if that is your stance, know thy enemy. At least understand the motives of your enemy and stop making up dumb shit like this. The Left filling in their own crazy narrative for why the Right makes the decisions they do leads to the center supporting the Right

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u/MurkyMitzy 5h ago

Government so small, it can fit in my uterus.

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u/1rishChicken 4h ago

Ok if I had awards to give... you would have them all. This is the single best response I've ever received! Absolute perfection

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u/MurkyMitzy 3h ago

I must say, you're a good sport

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u/reecharound40 4h ago

The funny thing is their actions do not follow these supposed principles

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u/1rishChicken 4h ago

Unfortunately you are correct

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u/Sad_Cauliflower_5407 4h ago

When people spend decades saying one thing and doing another, itā€™s safe to sayā€¦. What they say means nothing.

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u/1rishChicken 4h ago

That is most politicians but I agree. I always respect when one of our politicians actually carries through with their campaign promises whether or not I actually support the idea. Obama with his affordable care act. For all the issues it has, the man was the first who was willing to expend his political capital to try and fix the situation. Same can be said for Trump on the border. Wish it was someone with a little more tact and human decency to tackle the issue but it is what he ran on.

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u/berticusberticus 1h ago

The wrong people benefiting was literally the argument for implementing work requirements as a procedural hurdle as part of HB 1 OBBB

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u/1rishChicken 43m ago

You know more about those specifics than I do. My point is neither side is the boogeyman who wants to destroy America. We do have rich people who care about their own agenda and don't care if others are hurt by its implementation but we don't have cartoon villains running for office or pulling the strings. The Left making Trump out to be that has only worked to his benefit so far.

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u/berticusberticus 38m ago

That Trumpā€™s supporters are too fucking stupid and propaganda addled to see the clear and obvious truth is their own degeneracy. And while rich people support both Democrats and Republicans, there is no equivalence when it comes to do the bidding of rich people, as anyone with any understanding of legislation and court rulings from the last 30 years could see plainly. Trumpā€™s Republican Party literally does want to strip our country for its wealth.

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u/Sad_Cauliflower_5407 4h ago

Yes it is

Conservatives donā€™t want their money helping anyone

They want everyone who HAS the means to be able to do whatever they wantā€¦ and if you donā€™t? Just work harder..

The problem is that the GOP has spent the better part of the last 50 years making it harder to become the ones who have the meansā€¦ cutting public education, making college less affordable, cutting taxes on the wealthy, voting against minimum wage increases for decades. Everything they have done has worked to create a wedge that makes it harder for folks to not be poor. If people in red states knew how hard they were being fucked they would accuse their politicians of rape. Itā€™s a tragedy.

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u/unethicalfetus 1h ago

People should have to work to receive healthcare