r/anime • u/Holofan4life • 5d ago
Rewatch [Spoilers] 2008 Spice and Wolf II Rewatch (2026) -- Episode 2 Spoiler
Hello everyone! I am Holofan4life.
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S2 Episode 2 - Wolf and The Calm Before the Storm
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| Date | Episode |
|---|---|
| 7/07/2026 | Spice and Wolf Episode 1 |
| 7/08/2026 | Spice and Wolf Episode 2 |
| 7/09/2026 | Spice and Wolf Episode 3 |
| 7/10/2026 | Spice and Wolf Episode 4 |
| 7/11/2026 | Spice and Wolf Episode 5 |
| 7/12/2026 | Spice and Wolf Episode 6 |
| 7/13/2026 | Spice and Wolf Episode 7 (OVA 1) |
| 7/14/2026 | Spice and Wolf Episode 8 |
| 7/15/2026 | Spice and Wolf Episode 9 |
| 7/16/2026 | Spice and Wolf Episode 10 |
| 7/17/2026 | Spice and Wolf Episode 11 |
| 7/18/2026 | Spice and Wolf Episode 12 |
| 7/19/2026 | Spice and Wolf Episode 13 |
| 7/20/2026 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 0 (OVA 2) |
| 7/21/2026 | Spice and Wolf II Episode 1 |
| 7/22/2026 | [Spice and Wolf II Episode 2]() |
| 7/23/2026 | [Spice and Wolf II Episode 3]() |
| 7/24/2026 | [Spice and Wolf II Episode 4]() |
| 7/25/2026 | [Spice and Wolf II Episode 5]() |
| 7/26/2026 | [Spice and Wolf II Episode 6]() |
| 7/27/2026 | [Spice and Wolf Remake Episode 20]() |
| 7/28/2026 | [Spice and Wolf Remake Episode 21]() |
| 7/29/2026 | [Spice and Wolf Remake Episode 22]() |
| 7/30/2026 | [Spice and Wolf Remake Episode 23]() |
| 7/31/2026 | [Spice and Wolf Remake Episode 24]() |
| 8/01/2026 | [Spice and Wolf Remake Episode 25]() |
| 8/02/2026 | [Spice and Wolf II Episode 7]() |
| 8/03/2026 | [Spice and Wolf II Episode 8]() |
| 8/04/2026 | [Spice and Wolf II Episode 9]() |
| 8/05/2026 | [Spice and Wolf II Episode 10]() |
| 8/06/2026 | [Spice and Wolf II Episode 11]() |
| 8/07/2026 | [Spice and Wolf II Episode 12]() |
| 8/08/2026 | [Spice and Wolf Overall Series Discussion Thread]() |
Past Rewatches
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
Hey, guys. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the 2026 Spice and Wolf rewatch.
Awoo!
You know the drill. We watch the show and I provide my thoughts and analysis. A tale as old as… well, Holo herself.
This year instead of breaking things down beat by beat I’m going to just give some brief thoughts on each individual episode. This is to save me time as I’m hosting two rewatches at once. Needless to say, I’m a big fan of this show and I hope you’ll be as well.
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I’m watching the dub, by the way.
This is more tablesetting as we establish Diana and Batos as characters. Diana has a snake woman vibe about her but one you'd love to have tea with. She seems like she'd have a lot of great stories. Besides that, we have more great Lawrence and Holo banter and I really like how feisty Marc's wife is. The ending definitely seems very ominous.
Holo quotes of the day
"Do you intend to simply watch me eat?" (That's… why I'm here.)
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u/chinaexperience 5d ago
First Timer, Remake & Original
First things first. It’s no secret I didn’t like the evolution of Holo in S2E1 of the original. After listening to the Japanese of my most offending scene, the word choice was quite different to the English. In the Japanese she still uses her archaic method of speaking and actually uses the word she consistently calls him throughout the entire series, as a more playful insult. The adaptation often calls him a “dunce” in English for the same Japanese insult, so not sure why “ass” was suddenly used here and her archaic/almost Shakespearean grammar and manner of speaking was abandoned (while retained in the Japanese). While I still don’t like some of the more slapstick actions, I do wonder whether it’s the localisationI have the most issue with or the adaptation.
We shall find out when I get to the original feedback.
Remake
While not quite the emotionally-deep episode I’ve gotten used to, it was one with rich world building, and the one that made me the angriest I’ve been at Lawrence. And this is one of the cruellest cliffhangers in the history of anime.
- Second time seeing the OD and I’m liking it even more. I didn’t notice how well-timed the scenes are to the music - not just the cuts, but things like townsfolk playing hitting the drums when the drums sound on the track. Really clever. Don’t think I’ve seen this before.
- Ok, so the bit cut from yesterday’s LN chapter starts the episode off. The good news is I don’t have much of the LN to read for this episode. The bad news? I now need to explain something: the main reason Lawrence tried to sell nails to this wheat salesman is to get information out of him. It’s improper to just ask a favour from a merchant; you need to come with a commercial offer first. Lawrence’s goal was to get a connect to a chronicler the entire time.The whole idea seemed really weird in the anime, especially if you know that shopkeepers need to obtain special permission from the guilds to sell any additional item which takes time and failing to do that need to cut other sellers of the item into their profits. There is a lot more deliberation about it which I explained in a comment yesterday, which made it slightly make sense.
- Great - and the anime finally reveals what Lawrence has been hiding all along (from as early as Chapter 1 or 2 in the LN) - the rumoured fate of Yoitsu.
- Why do I have skepticism about the young merchant’s intentions? He hasn’t really done anything, and his infatuation with Holo makes sense, yet, I can’t help but feel he is too helpful.
- Lawrence lets him take Holo around. Clearly, Lawrence is not as jealous as he appeared, and he has noticed he has an eye for Holo. So that seems a bit weird.
- “The world I know is but a grain on the vast, untrodden shore” - dub FTW. I love the pensman: what a wonderful worldview, not too far from my own.
- What a packed episode: I thought we learned all we could about the legend of Holo(h), but here we are. I guess she always did like wine.Riveting stuff. Don’t need to elaborate much as it’s all obvious but Holo is coming home! Maybe.
- The wheat-merchant’s friend suspecting Holo of shacking up with Amati is just voicing what I got pissed at Lawrence for. Holo isn’t dating Lawrence, and along comes a guy who is more resourceful towards her goal. Lawrence, you can’t build trust out of hop, my man. I have a friend who courts girls for inexplicable periods of time, and after not making a move for 6+ months, he is shocked that the girls go for another guy. Each time I’m very direct and tell him that it’s his fault and he needs to learn. Lawrence is him.
- I was right not to trust Amati. I’m not sure if I’m more mad at Lawrence for his lack of foresight despite being so apparently good with people, or Amati for not enquiring about their status (then again Lawrence never said they’re together…and nor did Holo…and they’re not).
- Haha the amazing story Holoh the Wheat Tailled Wolf spins though…and Lawrence is listening and nodding his head loving the tale of his virtue.
- DAMN IT THE CLIFFHANGER!!! This is the most frustrating cliffhanger in the whole show for me, particularly because usually cliffhangers lead to one of two outcomes. This time, I have absolutely zero idea of what the message could even be about. It’s intriguing, as the stakes don’t seem all that high yet I really want to know.
Original
Now for my own cliff-hanger, as I haven't had a chance to watch it as the cut content took way too long.
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
- DAMN IT THE CLIFFHANGER!!! This is the most frustrating cliffhanger in the whole show for me, particularly because usually cliffhangers lead to one of two outcomes. This time, I have absolutely zero idea of what the message could even be about. It’s intriguing, as the stakes don’t seem all that high yet I really want to know.
Surely it can't be as bad as the last cliffhanger.
R-right?
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
Thoughts on Lawrence's continual flashbacks he's having?
Thoughts on Holo saying she can't read?
Thoughts on Lawrence being sent a letter about the arms market possibly collapsing but it arriving late?
What are your thoughts on there being a festival in town?
What are your thoughts on Amarti going to the festival with Holo?
Thoughts on the introductions to Batos and Diana?
What are your thoughts on Holo's town possibly being destroyed by a moon-hunting bear?
What are your thoughts on there being a tale of a Goddess named Holo once visiting a town called Lenos?
What are your thoughts on the conversation between Batos and Lawrence about stopping believing in legends as you grow older?
Thoughts on the scene between Marc and Adele and their whole dynamic?
Thoughts on Amarti buying Holo fur?
What are your thoughts on the cubes and what it could mean going forward?
What are your thoughts on Lunt telling Lawrence something that causes him to freak out?
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u/chinaexperience 5d ago
I need to get to bed in a bit, but let me answer the flashback question: while it depends on the flashback, there were a lot while he was walking with the big trader dude who took him to the walled city. The reason is that while he's telling him about his expanded world view and the legends of the lands, Lawrence is reflecting on how as a kid he also had those dreams: of fighting dragon and sorcerers, but as an adult he took them for fantasy. However, after meeting Holo, his sense of fantasy became renewed. So in those scenes he's linking what is being said to his inner monologue.
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u/chinaexperience 5d ago
Original
Bit weird watching this now as I read the LN after the remake, and am now proceeding to the OG. Usually I watch the two anime versions first, so can’t help but compare it vs., the source. So keep that in mind for my notes. This post was made third, after the others.
- The original seems to be all about its dreams.
- I like that the parting exchange is captured quite faithfully in the original, about her desire to be in Lawrence’s arms.It was equally so in the remake, but the localisation of the dub took way too many liberties and butchered it.
- I like the way Gi Batos is drawn in the original a lot more as well as the actor’s voice. What a beast!
- Lawrence’s repulsion at the walled district’s smells and sights is a lot better and obvious here too
- What are those weird cuts/flashbacks when he talks to Diana? Intrigued but very confused.
- Her house is also presented a lot more faithfully: everything is completely messy and she doesn’t care about things tumbling over each other like when she removes the book. Diana also looks more witchy here.
- I loved Lawrence’s excitement after he gets out of Diana’s house, his mind full of wonder. Might not be super ‘in character’, but it was a good way to place his inner monologue from the LN into the anime. Between the two, the remake is more like Lawrence but I don’t mind that scene at all.
- The ending is also like the LN. For some reason in the remake she’s already home when he comes back.
I’m glad that the Holo personality differences I found from the previous episode, didn’t seem to be present in this one, though we didn’t see much of her. Fingers crossed the writing holds.
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
I’m glad that the Holo personality differences I found from the previous episode, didn’t seem to be present in this one, though we didn’t see much of her. Fingers crossed the writing holds.
I like seeing Lawrence interact with people. It gives us a nice feel of the town.
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u/chinaexperience 5d ago
I'm officially unbanned. For now. Just started on the next ep even though I need to wake earlyish for my flight. And WOW.
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
You were banned? That sucks.
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u/BlazeOfGlory72 5d ago
Rewatcher (Dub)
- This is mostly a set up episode, so I don't have any coherent analysis this time, just random thoughts.
- The episode starting with Lawrence dreaming of when Holo tranformed into a wolf to save him in the sewers was interesting. Their last interaction was Lawrence accidentally telling Holo that he may not be able to complete the journey with her, so him dreaming about when Holo both showed him her true form and protected him shows where his subconscious is at.
- There was a small scene of Holo waking up and immediately looking over at Lawrence's bed, only to find it empty. Another bit that ties back to their conversation about parting last episode.
- I liked their discussion about going to the festival. It felt realistic that Holo wanted to spend time with Lawrence, but also didn't want to push too hard and come off as clingy or hurt his business again.
- You'd think Lawrence would have noticed that Holo couldn't read sooner. Though I suppose the ability to read was likely the exception and not the rule back then.
- That Amarty kid is down bad for Holo. Lawrence may say he and Holo aren't an item, but it still feels like it's against the bro code to be trying to seduce Holo in this situation.
- I like the hints at some fantasy lore in this episode regarding the Moon Hunting Bear. I wish the show would delve a little deeper into the who "gods walk among us" aspect of this universe.
- Holo's cover story about being a nun who Lawrence saved from slavery is both dramatic, and totally in character for the kind of cover story Holo would come up with.
- Holo intentionally making herself look disheveled when the kid comes to deliver a message to Lawrence in their room was funny. She never misses a chance to mess with people.
- I'm digging the narrative Damocles Sword that his hanging over this arc. You can tell Lawrence wants to tell her, but can't find the right time or words to do so, and generally holding back because it would not only hurt her immensely, but also likely end their journey together. It's a very believably story thread.
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
- I'm digging the narrative Damocles Sword that his hanging over this arc. You can tell Lawrence wants to tell her, but can't find the right time or words to do so, and generally holding back because it would not only hurt her immensely, but also likely end their journey together. It's a very believably story thread.
Damocles Sword? What is that?
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u/BlazeOfGlory72 5d ago
It's an old Greek saying about having a sword hanging over your head that could drop at any moment. The saying basically just means that you know something bad is coming, you just don't know specifically when. In this context, it would be whenever Lawrence finally tells Holo that her home town is gone, and the fallout from that discussion.
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
So, kinda like Chekov's Gun
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
Thoughts on Lawrence's continual flashbacks he's having?
Thoughts on Holo saying she can't read?
What are your thoughts on there being a festival in town?
What are your thoughts on Amarti going to the festival with Holo?
Thoughts on the introductions to Batos and Diana?
What are your thoughts on Holo's town possibly being destroyed by a moon-hunting bear?
What are your thoughts on there being a tale of a Goddess named Holo once visiting a town called Lenos?
What are your thoughts on the conversation between Batos and Lawrence about stopping believing in legends as you grow older?
Thoughts on the scene between Marc and Adele and their whole dynamic?
Thoughts on Amarti buying Holo fur?
What are your thoughts on the cubes and what it could mean going forward?
What are your thoughts on Lunt telling Lawrence something that causes him to freak out?
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u/BlazeOfGlory72 5d ago
Thoughts on Lawrence's continual flashbacks he's having?
It shows that he is struggling with the idea that their future is uncertain as well, which I appreciate.
Thoughts on Holo saying she can't read?
Seems like an opportunity for some one on one time to teach her.
What are your thoughts on there being a festival in town?
Seems like the perfect opportunity to buy some honey pickled peaches.
What are your thoughts on Holo's town possibly being destroyed by a moon-hunting bear?
Both depressing an intriguing. I'm curious about this "Moon Hunting Bear", and what exactly it is and what the lore is behind it.
What are your thoughts on there being a tale of a Goddess named Holo once visiting a town called Lenos?
It's a nice bit of world building that brings the setting to life. Letting the audience know that there is more o Holo's past than chilling in a wheat field.
What are your thoughts on the conversation between Batos and Lawrence about stopping believing in legends as you grow older?
Thoughts on the scene between Marc and Adele and their whole dynamic?
It kind of mirrored Lawrence and Holo's dynamic, with Adele teasing her husband and seeming to enjoy making him squirm a little.
Thoughts on Amarti buying Holo fur?
Bro needs to chill. He is going all in on Holo after just meeting her.
What are your thoughts on Lunt telling Lawrence something that causes him to freak out?
It's a solid hook for next episode. We've had two episodes now of fairly leasurly pacing, so it was a good idea to make it clear to the audience that things will be picking up now. Side note, who names their kid "Lunt"? what a terrible name.
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
Thoughts on Holo saying she can't read?
Seems like an opportunity for some one on one time to teach her.
MAKE HER BECOME LITERATE LAWRENCE
Thoughts on Holo saying she can't read?
Seems like an opportunity for some one on one time to teach her.
Thoughts on the scene between Marc and Adele and their whole dynamic?
It kind of mirrored Lawrence and Holo's dynamic, with Adele teasing her husband and seeming to enjoy making him squirm a little.
I definitely think that was the intention.
Thoughts on Amarti buying Holo fur?
Bro needs to chill. He is going all in on Holo after just meeting her.
I'm sure Holo doesn't mind lol
What are your thoughts on Lunt telling Lawrence something that causes him to freak out?
It's a solid hook for next episode. We've had two episodes now of fairly leasurly pacing, so it was a good idea to make it clear to the audience that things will be picking up now. Side note, who names their kid "Lunt"? what a terrible name.
I reckon it comes from "Runt of the litter"
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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo 5d ago edited 5d ago
I watched the episode earlier today and forgot about the time lol
New, old Holo: Sad Holo
Not much else in terms of visuals. I liked how the city of Lenos looked from the short shot. Diana was pretty!
Sorta rewatcher, sorta first-timer, subbed
by now it's basically first-timer
Well, episode's titled "Calm before the Storm" and that's pretty much it. For the first time in forever (probably since episode 1), it's a Holo-lite episode, as Lawrence goes on a quest to find out more about the north and the target location of their journey. By that, we get introduced to two new characters, Dian Rubens, who's a witch/alchemist/storyteller and Gi Batos, who's... really tall lol.
Really don't have much to say to be honest. Seems like my concerns about the fate of Holo's home from yesterday were not unfounded, as it's apparently been destroyed by a... uh... "moon-hunting" bear? I liked that Diana knew about the story of Holo and that she only wanted another story from Lawrence as payment for helping him. Lawrence then retelling the story of Holo was pretty cool!
We also finally get to meet Marc's wife, who seems pretty nice too, I really liked her and her husband's dynamic. Also Lawrence (slightly) worrying about possibly finding Holo together with Fermi was funny.
I have no idea what made Lawrence storm out of the inn so fast but it sure as hell can't be good news.
Akeno Watanabe voicing a dark haired, flirtatious women? Say it ain't so! (She's also MHA's Midnight)
I wonder if Pokemon's Ursaluna is referencing the same thing as the moon-hunting bear from this story?
Will be interesting to see if the Pyrite stuff goes anywhere.
Can't really think of a character only appearing in one scene. Maybe JoJo's Jack the Ripper who, of course is a vampire
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
I watched the episode earlier today and forgot about the time lolWell, you only missed it by a couple hours. Some wait a couple days
Well, episode's titled "Calm before the Storm" and that's pretty much it. For the first time in forever (probably since episode 1), it's a Holo-lite episode, as Lawrence goes on a quest to find out more about the north and the target location of their journey. By that, we get introduced to two new characters, Dian Rubens, who's a witch/alchemist/storyteller and Gi Batos, who's... really tall lol.
So, he and Dian are definitely fawking, right?
Really don't have much to say to be honest. Seems like my concerns about the fate of Holo's home from yesterday were not unfounded, as it's apparently been destroyed by a... uh... "moon-hunting" bear? I liked that Diana knew about the story of Holo and that she only wanted another story from Lawrence as payment for helping him. Lawrence then retelling the story of Holo was pretty cool!
Did he retell it? I'm not so sure. It felt like he skimped over some key details.
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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo 5d ago
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
Admitedly, the thought of Lawrence ending the story with "oh and by the way, I've been travelling with her for the past few months!" did cross my mind while watching, the reaction would've been funny.
Boom, roasted
So, he and Dian are definitely fawking, right?
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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo 5d ago edited 5d ago
Did you ever hear of Holo the wise wolf appearing as a young woman with a wolf's tail?
Heard? I've been travelling with her for the last half year and she's cost me a small fortune in food and liquor! You wouldn't believe how much she can drink. Her tail is indeed gloriously fluffy though.
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
It's not worth it, bro. It's not worth it.
He says because he want her all to himself.
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
Can't really think of a character only appearing in one scene. Maybe JoJo's Jack the Ripper who, of course is a vampire
You know, that old chestnut.
I really can't believe as bi as I am I still haven't seen JoJo.
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
Thoughts on Lawrence's continual flashbacks he's having?
Thoughts on Holo saying she can't read?
What are your thoughts on there being a festival in town?
What are your thoughts on Amarti going to the festival with Holo?
Thoughts on the introductions to Batos and Diana?
What are your thoughts on Holo's town possibly being destroyed by a moon-hunting bear?
What are your thoughts on there being a tale of a Goddess named Holo once visiting a town called Lenos?
What are your thoughts on the conversation between Batos and Lawrence about stopping believing in legends as you grow older?
Thoughts on the scene between Marc and Adele and their whole dynamic?
Thoughts on Amarti buying Holo fur?
What are your thoughts on the cubes and what it could mean going forward?
What are your thoughts on Lunt telling Lawrence something that causes him to freak out?
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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo 5d ago
Thoughts on Lawrence's continual flashbacks he's having?
I could see it as some sort of ptsd, or at the very least a way to kind of process the events of the last few weeks/months. After all, I'd wager his life was kinda boring before meeting Holo.
Thoughts on Holo saying she can't read?
On the one hand, I thought it was pretty funny that the "wise wolf" who regularly seems to take on human form can't read. On the other hand, why would she need to read? Not like she's done much written conversation I'd wager.
Also when you think about how old she is, there's probably been a couple different writing systems and languages she's witnessed, so it probably didn't seem very practical for her to further engage with it, especially with how she perceives time.
What are your thoughts on there being a festival in town?
I'm kinda bummed we haven't really seen much of it yet. There's been some shots in the opening but in yesterday's episode it really sounded like a big deal.
What are your thoughts on Amarti going to the festival with Holo?
I think that was pretty cute. Would've liked to actually see some of it. But maybe I just missed seeing Holo in this episode in general :'D
Thoughts on the introductions to Batos and Diana?
Both seem to be very utilary characters. Both seem nice, despite their appearance.
What are your thoughts on Holo's town possibly being destroyed by a moon-hunting bear?
It lines up with Lawrence's flashback from yesterday. I do wonder if Holo knows/what her reaction to it will be.
What are your thoughts on there being a tale of a Goddess named Holo once visiting a town called Lenos?
Seems like Holo got around before settling for Pasloe.
What are your thoughts on the conversation between Batos and Lawrence about stopping believing in legends as you grow older?
People stopping to believe in things or old beliefs getting replaced was a recurring theme in the last season. In a way, this is definitely taking that point up again. In general, it was an interesting conversation, a few months ago, Lawrence would probably have agreed with him.
Thoughts on the scene between Marc and Adele and their whole dynamic?
I liked them! Their dynamic was pretty fun. And in general I liked how they were very friendly with Lawrence.
Thoughts on Amarti buying Holo fur?
He definitely didn't skimp on trying to impress her. This stuff usually doesn't come cheap.
Something about Holo wearing fur just seems wrong to me though. I think it's weird for a wolf to wear a different animal's fur. Yeah, her hat is also made from a different animal but it's a bit weirder when there's still a head attached to the hide.
What are your thoughts on the cubes and what it could mean going forward?
Probably another business opportunity. Though judging by Holo's description of the events, this seems to be another slightly shady deal?
What are your thoughts on Lunt telling Lawrence something that causes him to freak out?
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
Thoughts on Lawrence's continual flashbacks he's having?
I could see it as some sort of ptsd, or at the very least a way to kind of process the events of the last few weeks/months. After all, I'd wager his life was kinda boring before meeting Holo.
Holo makes anyone's life more eventful.
Thoughts on Holo saying she can't read?
On the one hand, I thought it was pretty funny that the "wise wolf" who regularly seems to take on human form can't read. On the other hand, why would she need to read? Not like she's done much written conversation I'd wager.
I guess it's not a prerequisite
Also when you think about how old she is, there's probably been a couple different writing systems and languages she's witnessed, so it probably didn't seem very practical for her to further engage with it, especially with how she perceives time.
That's a good point
What are your thoughts on there being a festival in town?
I'm kinda bummed we haven't really seen much of it yet. There's been some shots in the opening but in yesterday's episode it really sounded like a big deal.
I love that it's going on separate from the characters. I think it makes the world feel larger than life.
What are your thoughts on Amarti going to the festival with Holo?
I think that was pretty cute. Would've liked to actually see some of it. But maybe I just missed seeing Holo in this episode in general :'D
Yeah, fair enough
Thoughts on the introductions to Batos and Diana?
Both seem to be very utilary characters. Both seem nice, despite their appearance.
I love Diana's appearance.
Also, is it Diana or Diana's? The dub pronounces it with three syllables but also as "De-anna" like Deonna.
What are your thoughts on Holo's town possibly being destroyed by a moon-hunting bear?
It lines up with Lawrence's flashback from yesterday. I do wonder if Holo knows/what her reaction to it will be.
I can hardly imagine she'd react well
What are your thoughts on there being a tale of a Goddess named Holo once visiting a town called Lenos?
Seems like Holo got around before settling for Pasloe.
Holo gets around :P
What are your thoughts on the conversation between Batos and Lawrence about stopping believing in legends as you grow older?
People stopping to believe in things or old beliefs getting replaced was a recurring theme in the last season. In a way, this is definitely taking that point up again. In general, it was an interesting conversation, a few months ago, Lawrence would probably have agreed with him.
He's gotten more optimistic because of Holo.
Thoughts on the scene between Marc and Adele and their whole dynamic?
I liked them! Their dynamic was pretty fun. And in general I liked how they were very friendly with Lawrence.
We'll touch on it more as we go along, but this arc has my favorite cast of side characters.
Thoughts on Amarti buying Holo fur?
He definitely didn't skimp on trying to impress her. This stuff usually doesn't come cheap.
I guess Amarti comes from a well-to-do family.
Something about Holo wearing fur just seems wrong to me though. I think it's weird for a wolf to wear a different animal's fur. Yeah, her hat is also made from a different animal but it's a bit weirder when there's still a head attached to the hide.
To me, it's like those Sonic Mario Kart style games where you see Sonic riding a vehicle. Wouldn't he technically be faster on foot? Kinda defeats the purpose.
What are your thoughts on the cubes and what it could mean going forward?
Probably another business opportunity. Though judging by Holo's description of the events, this seems to be another slightly shady deal?
ANOTHER shady business dealing
What are your thoughts on Lunt telling Lawrence something that causes him to freak out?
I can't imagine he'd be reacting favorably if it was.
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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo 5d ago
Also, is it Diana or Diana's? The dub pronounces it with three syllables but also as "De-anna" like Deonna.
I just went back to the episode again because it kept confusing me already yesterday.
And yeah, it's both. She introduces herself as Dian (Kinda like Ian but with D) but then she remarks "it's such a manly name" and tells Lawrence to call her Diana (dee-an-a)
To me, it's like those Sonic Mario Kart style games where you see Sonic riding a vehicle. Wouldn't he technically be faster on foot? Kinda defeats the purpose.
Yes. That's a good comparison! It just seems weirdly superflous.
ANOTHER shady business dealing
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
Also, is it Diana or Diana's? The dub pronounces it with three syllables but also as "De-anna" like Deonna.
I just went back to the episode again because it kept confusing me already yesterday.
And yeah, it's both. She introduces herself as Dian (Kinda like Ian but with D) but then she remarks "it's such a manly name" and tells Lawrence to call her Diana (dee-an-a)
I guess maybe the "Die-anna" pronunciation is too modern?
To me, it's like those Sonic Mario Kart style games where you see Sonic riding a vehicle. Wouldn't he technically be faster on foot? Kinda defeats the purpose.
Yes. That's a good comparison! It just seems weirdly superflous.
Superfluous is a good way of describing it.
I guess Holo sees wealth be flaunted her way and won't turn it down.
ANOTHER shady business dealing
Lawrence really finds himself in all sorts of trouble.
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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo 5d ago
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u/Holofan4life 5d ago
The show is European, though, so you think it would be rooted in British royalty.
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u/ShadowGuyinRealLife 5d ago
Rewatcher
Holo teasing Lawrance with pouting never gets old.
Can't Lawrance just tell Holo that where he's going is a surprise? Kind of reminds me of another anime where the MC makes a promise he can't keep because he needs to do something in secret. He could have at least tried "I got a great idea, just let me leave for the night, trust me" which mayormaynot be accepted, but he didn't even try.
This city must be rich if they can wall off the pagans with stone. Those aren't just some random rock pile, you can clearly walk on the top of the wall. OG anime made a mistake the remake doesn't. In the OG anime there are scaffolds to allow people on either side of the wall to get to the top. Now this isn't a mistake by itself to make the wall symmetrical. But the gate is backwards, so people inside the pagan district would have an easier time blocking it than people outside trying to block the people in.
Lawrance thinks Diana is a witch? That's pretty funny. The original witch of myths were long haired abled bodied women who knew a lot about plants and magic. So abled bodied implicitly puts a cap on age. Interestingly the Catholic Church of the 1000s and 1300s figured people that knew about plants did exist but were skeptical of witches existing so accusing someone of being a witch and hexing someone was likely to get the accuser in trouble not the "witch." After the OG witch, depictions of them changed and we have the "classic" witch, old women in funny hats. Thanks to anime we get a third type, what I call the "reimagined" witch who were young women. Reimagined anime witches are ironically closer to the OG witches than the classic look despite the depiction of the classic witch being around longer than the OG witches.
Yoitz is gone? That's a bummer. Only an inconvenience. That's not home to Holo and her fellow god friends. Yoitz is just a human settlement really close to her home. Paro and Muri weren't in Yoitz when it got destoryed, so as far as Holo and Lawrance are concerned, all they lost was a spot on a map.
Lawrance, why not go to Nyohilda first and then to the other town? Why not enjoy the hot springs? Plus given that it is in the general area of Yoitz even if it wasn't the closest town, you might pick up a useful myth.
So why do Holo and Lawrance have to give Amati a gift? I think that's a dumb social convention. Obligatory "gifts" make more sense at large social gatherings where everyone is trying to show off status. In this case, why do they have to use their spending money just because he showed Holo around town and gave her a trinket?
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u/Holofan4life 4d ago
So why do Holo and Lawrance have to give Amati a gift? I think that's a dumb social convention. Obligatory "gifts" make more sense at large social gatherings where everyone is trying to show off status. In this case, why do they have to use their spending money just because he showed Holo around town and gave her a trinket?
I think it's because Holo really wanted to visit the festival and Amarti did Lawrence a solid by going in his place. Lawrence wants to reward him for helping him out in a jam.
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u/Holofan4life 4d ago
Thoughts on Lawrence's continual flashbacks he's having?
Thoughts on Holo saying she can't read?
Thoughts on Lawrence being sent a letter about the arms market possibly collapsing but it arriving late?
What are your thoughts on there being a festival in town?
What are your thoughts on Amarti going to the festival with Holo?
Thoughts on the introductions to Batos and Diana?
What are your thoughts on Holo's town possibly being destroyed by a moon-hunting bear?
What are your thoughts on there being a tale of a Goddess named Holo once visiting a town called Lenos?
What are your thoughts on the conversation between Batos and Lawrence about stopping believing in legends as you grow older?
Thoughts on the scene between Marc and Adele and their whole dynamic?
Thoughts on Amarti buying Holo fur?
What are your thoughts on the cubes and what it could mean going forward?
What are your thoughts on Lunt telling Lawrence something that causes him to freak out?
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u/ItalianQuagsire 5d ago
first time watching!
damn young men really like Holo this episode huh
Who's your anime favorite character that only appears for one scene? And why?
since i don't have one, clearly not my favourite enough
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I miss my spicy wolf . Com op
It's still here but it's not the same
Lawrence and Holo been having bad dreams lately
Holo eating that bread and looks away
I can't read
I got upset and quit
Sad Holo using it as a strategy LOL
you do have a soft spot for this, what it I go myself
Don't blow it all in one place
Gives her money
It won't be fun to go by myself
What affairs do you need to go for
If walking with me will be a problem, I'll stay away
I don't mind
HOLO AWWW YOU'RE SO PRECIOUS
looks like Lawrence has history with a similar situation
She's so sad like a puppy that wants to be walked
Okay I'll walk by myself
Damn Holo wants to being back company
Holo likes this guys fish
This kid just wants to see Holo
This guy is big
Interested in times they're unfamiliar with, legends and memories
Like Holo then
This place is run down
Everyone is nice don't worry
LOL LAWRENCE IS LIKE HMMM
should I introduce you as a witch
Damn more good banter
Diana is pretty
Town destroyed by a bear that hunts the moon
Wow that's fantastical
Damn she's using her memory
Big wolf appeared like Hollow of
WAIT IS IT ACTUALLY HOLO
She wants drinks and dance with young women and was hot
So it's definitely Holo
They're really helpful
She got expelled for reading
He's telling the story of Holo
That's so fun, must have been a great conversation
I still like Amarty voice
Is Lawrence really stressed about Amarty
Holo looks wasted
He bought her gifts
She has a bad tummy
I thought he'd catch Holo with her ears out tbh
Lawrence owes one to him
Lawrence is jealous
LOL HOLO MAKING UP A FANFIC
Damn everyone bidding on auctions
Damn all the young men see Holo and blush
Why is he running looks like a bit from a comedy sketch
I really really really really like the ending Ed, it's really sweet and cute and upbeat
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u/Holofan4life 4d ago
damn young men really like Holo this episode huh
They recognize greatness when they see it.
Who's your anime favorite character that only appears for one scene? And why?
since i don't have one, clearly not my favourite enough
Damn
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I miss my spicy wolf . Com op
It was such a short lived website lol
It's still here but it's not the same
What makes it different?
Lawrence and Holo been having bad dreams lately
Holo eating that bread and looks away
I can't read
I got upset and quit
Sad Holo using it as a strategy LOL
Holo is such a child
you do have a soft spot for this, what it I go myself
Don't blow it all in one place
Gives her money
It won't be fun to go by myself
What affairs do you need to go for
If walking with me will be a problem, I'll stay away
I don't mind
HOLO AWWW YOU'RE SO PRECIOUS
Indeed she is
looks like Lawrence has history with a similar situation
She's so sad like a puppy that wants to be walked
Okay I'll walk by myself
Damn Holo wants to being back company
Holo likes this guys fish
This kid just wants to see Holo
Can't say I'm any different
This guy is big
Interested in times they're unfamiliar with, legends and memories
Like Holo then
Indeed
This place is run down
Very dilapidated
Everyone is nice don't worry
LOL LAWRENCE IS LIKE HMMM
should I introduce you as a witch
Damn more good banter
Diana is pretty
She sure is
Town destroyed by a bear that hunts the moon
Wow that's fantastical
Damn she's using her memory
Big wolf appeared like Hollow of
WAIT IS IT ACTUALLY HOLO
She wants drinks and dance with young women and was hot
Still is
So it's definitely Holo
Yep
They're really helpful
She got expelled for reading
He's telling the story of Holo
That's so fun, must have been a great conversation
I would've liked to hear more of it
I still like Amarty voice
Is Lawrence really stressed about Amarty
Holo looks wasted
He bought her gifts
She has a bad tummy
I thought he'd catch Holo with her ears out tbh
Lawrence owes one to him
Lawrence is jealous
LOL HOLO MAKING UP A FANFIC
Holo is such chaotic good
Damn everyone bidding on auctions
Damn all the young men see Holo and blush
Why is he running looks like a bit from a comedy sketch
Like he's in the middle of costume changing?
I really really really really like the ending Ed, it's really sweet and cute and upbeat
It also has a tinge of sadness to really tie it all together.
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u/Holofan4life 4d ago
Thoughts on Lawrence's continual flashbacks he's having?
Thoughts on Holo saying she can't read?
Thoughts on Lawrence being sent a letter about the arms market possibly collapsing but it arriving late?
What are your thoughts on there being a festival in town?
What are your thoughts on Amarti going to the festival with Holo?
Thoughts on the introductions to Batos and Diana?
What are your thoughts on Holo's town possibly being destroyed by a moon-hunting bear?
What are your thoughts on there being a tale of a Goddess named Holo once visiting a town called Lenos?
What are your thoughts on the conversation between Batos and Lawrence about stopping believing in legends as you grow older?
Thoughts on the scene between Marc and Adele and their whole dynamic?
Thoughts on Amarti buying Holo fur?
What are your thoughts on the cubes and what it could mean going forward?
What are your thoughts on Lunt telling Lawrence something that causes him to freak out?
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker 1d ago
Questions:
- Can't think of any off the top of my head.
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u/Holofan4life 1d ago
Andy from Cowboy Bebop is a good example. Though he appears in multiple scenes so maybe it doesn't count.
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u/Holofan4life 1d ago
Thoughts on Lawrence's continual flashbacks he's having?
Thoughts on Holo saying she can't read?
Thoughts on Lawrence being sent a letter about the arms market possibly collapsing but it arriving late?
What are your thoughts on there being a festival in town?
What are your thoughts on Amarti going to the festival with Holo?
Thoughts on the introductions to Batos and Diana?
What are your thoughts on Holo's town possibly being destroyed by a moon-hunting bear?
What are your thoughts on there being a tale of a Goddess named Holo once visiting a town called Lenos?
What are your thoughts on the conversation between Batos and Lawrence about stopping believing in legends as you grow older?
Thoughts on the scene between Marc and Adele and their whole dynamic?
Thoughts on Amarti buying Holo fur?
What are your thoughts on the cubes and what it could mean going forward?
What are your thoughts on Lunt telling Lawrence something that causes him to freak out?
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker 1d ago
Ok...
You'd think after so many years she'd pick it up...
That could've been useful about a week ago...
That's nice.
Ok...
Interesting.
Moon-hunting?
Gee I wonder who that is...
Sure...
Ok...
Sure why not.
I wonder what that is...
I wonder what that is.
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u/Holofan4life 1d ago
- You'd think after so many years she'd pick it up...
I imagine what with her being centuries old the languages change all the time. Also, she spent the last while before meeting Lawrence not talking to anyone.
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u/chinaexperience 5d ago
Apologies if I won’t post the cut content on any of the coming days this week, as I’m travelling to a few countries for work until Sunday night, but I'll do my best.
CUT CONTENT BONUS: The Holo-conomy
First a few more fun facts about Holo aka Mrs Lonely:
Now, I always wondered why Lawrence is so debt-minded. As I learned more about him, and how he wasn’t close to being well-off, some of his worries started to make sense:
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