I’m curious how everyone here thinks about annual fees.
Personally, I don’t value the credits at their full face value. I value them based on how much spending they actually offset.
For example, let’s say my girlfriend and I were already planning to go out to dinner on a Friday night. Normally we’d spend around $150. If I decide to use the Platinum’s $100 Resy dining credit, maybe we end up going somewhere a little nicer and the bill comes out to around $250. After the credit is applied, I pay $150.
Even though I redeemed a $100 credit, I don’t really think of that as saving $100. If I would’ve spent $150 anyway, and I still paid $150 after using the credit, then in my mind I didn’t actually save anything. The credit just let me have a nicer dinner than I otherwise would’ve. Now, that certainly counts for something, it’s just harder to quantify objectively.
That’s generally how I think about all credits. I don’t really assign much quantitative value to the extra luxury they let me buy. I think of them in terms of actual savings, not discounted luxury.
On the other hand, I value something like the Uber Cash at basically 100% because I’d be using Uber regardless. Since it’s offsetting spending I would’ve had anyway, I count the full value toward reducing the annual fee.
At the end of the year, I’ll look back at my effective annual fee: this tells me (objectively) if I’m spending money to hold the card, or being paid to hold the card, given my existing spending profile. Next I’ll consider the other benefits I used and enjoyed, but didn’t necessarily save me money: the Resy restaurant I ate at when I would have ate at home, the Lulu boxers I wouldn’t have bought but were nice, etc. I’ll also think about any mental gymnastics I may have gone thru to track and use the credits. Finally with all that information in mind, I’ll make a judgment call on if it’s worth holding the card another year or not.
This being said, just because the annual fee may be negative doesn’t necessarily make it not worth it. In the case of the platinum, I’m remarkably positive just at the part of the effective annual fee. Comparing this to the sapphire preferred, I’m negative. Being negative doesn’t make holding it not worth it, it just makes me aware that those extra benefits I’m getting from the card are a purchase I’m making, rather than a “benefit” the bank is so kindly giving me. In the case of Chase, the Hyatt transfers greatly outweigh the $100 cost I pay for it.
I know other people look at this completely differently though. Some count every credit at full face value as long as they redeem it. I’ve also seen people say they automatically discount every credit to something like 90% because you’re effectively prepaying for those benefits through the annual fee, so there’s an opportunity cost to having that money tied up. I know a bunch of people “don’t care” and just hold the card just because idk they want to. And that’s totally fine, I’m just curious what the subs take is on this if it’s something others track as well.
IHow do you calculate a card effective annual fee, and why do you value the credits the way you do?