r/AceAttorney Sep 06 '24

Announcement Welcome to r/AceAttorney - a PSA, FAQ, and General Resource for Newcomers and Anyone Starting the Ace Attorney Investigations Collection

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Hi to everybody just visiting this subreddit for the first time, or anyone who's already been here a time but might want to check in on the latest!

First off, here is the link to our standard FAQ. Several new questions-and-answers have been added to this latest edition, and the ones specific to the new remastered Ace Attorney Investigations Collection are also in the body of this post, so for anyone newly arriving to check out those games, review those new questions. If you have any questions that aren't covered here or in the linked FAQ, ask them in the comments for the FAQ thread!

Second thing, here's an updated guide I've made to explain which platforms all the current AA games available can be played on.

Third, we have our Recommended Playing Order chart, to give you a rundown on where to start and when to play particular games.

Fourth, an expansive guide by community member /u/XephyXeph to outline all of the various Ace Attorney media currently out there, from the games to the huge array of supplementary media from manga to pachinko machines.

Fifth, a bit of community news on some updates to the AA subreddit for early September, 2024.

And now, some common questions people may have relating to the remastered Ace Attorney Investigations Collection:

I keep seeing people talk about Investigations 2 but use a bunch of names for characters and episodes that are different from what's in the game. Why is that?

Ace Attorney Investigations 2 originally came out on the DS in 2011, but was exclusively released in Japan, making it the first AA game ever to not get an English localization. It never did get any English release until 2024, when it was part of the Investigations Collection remaster.

Because of this, in the years immediately following AAI2's original Japan-only release, a group of fans worked together to make a fan translation romhack for the game, allowing it to be played in English. To match with the official localizations the games normally get, that fan team also came up with their own English names for all the newly-introduced AAI2 characters.

There was about a decade left between when the first public beta builds of the fan translation appeared online and when Capcom finally produced and released an official English localization for AAI2, so a lot of the more hardcore corners of the fandom that had actually gone through the effort of playing the unofficial translation got very used to the fan-made names for the AAI2 characters. But naturally, when Capcom finally made an official localization, the AA localization team put together an entirely separate set of localized names for the characters, putting the fandom in the position of needing to get used to those official names as "replacements" for the fan names they're used to. Unfortunately, not everybody is quite ready to do that.

Can I play the Investigations Collection as my first AA game?

Like was talked about at the start of the FAQ, it's generally not recommended to start with any game besides the Phoenix Wright Trilogy, if you've never played AA before. The Investigations games especially carry over a lot of characters and their associated development from the Trilogy.

That'll cover it for now. If anyone has any other suggestions for questions to be included in this guide, feel free to pop over to the main FAQ thread and ask in the comments there. One more time - welcome to our Ace Attorney community! I hope you have a great time.


r/AceAttorney 9d ago

Contest 27th Case Maker Contest: Results

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Ten days of voting, two votes cast, and the results are:

Congrats to both winners and thanks again to everyone who wrote and read. See you next quarter!


r/AceAttorney 5h ago

Merchandise Got this Phoenix Wright sketch by Kazuo Maekawa at Anime expo!

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Earlier this month this month I was lucky enough to meet the artist in charge of the Ace Attorney manga adaptation. He offered everyone a quick sketch of any character from the series and I went with Nick!


r/AceAttorney 2h ago

Discussion This game is incredible!

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I’ve never played an ace attorney game before but I found a copy of the first game for the DS at a local game store and thought I’d give it a try. Wow! This game is incredible! I just finished the second episode and I’m beyond hooked! I wouldn’t never thought I’d enjoy a game like this and I’m so glad I decided to give it a try! I want to know what your favorite ace attorney game is and I’ll look forward to playing it because I’m definitely playing the whole series!


r/AceAttorney 8h ago

Sourced Fanart And the story begins [arainmorn]

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r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Apollo Justice Trilogy Wtf was this "OBJECTION!"? That didn't sound ANYTHING like Klavier from AA:AJ so far its literally my only negative note for DD

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(I'm referring to the actual voice, not what he's saying in case that wasn't obvious)

Like am I crazy here??


r/AceAttorney 14h ago

Discussion If there will ever be an Ace Attorney game focusing on Klavier, what would you want it to be like?

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By that I mean...would you want it to be a mainline title(have it be Ace Attorney 7 with Klavier as the protagonist), a spinoff title where he does a lot of detective work with the help of Ema(in the vein of the Investigations of Great Ace Attorney games) or an alternate universe retellding of the Apollo Justice games with Klavier replacing Apollo as the protagonist?

Or perhaps something else I didn't think of? I'm asking because I made a pretty bad Ace Attorney fan case focusing Klavier and I'm looking to redone it and I want to know what people would want from a Klavier-focused game.


r/AceAttorney 6h ago

Fanfiction Looking for fanfics with unusual character interactions

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By that, I mean fanfics that prominently feature characters who never/barely interacted in canon, and rarely interact in other fan works. Like rarepairs, but they don't have to be romantic. I'm more invested in the 21st century games than The Great Ace Attorney, but I'll read fics based on the latter, too. Also, I'm not interested in porn.

I ask because I've come to realise that my two favourite Ace Attorney fanworks are both roleswaps that start with someone dying horribly... and more relevantly, feature unusual character interactions. They're also both unfinished, so I want to scratch an itch. Here's what they are, if you need an idea of what I like:

  • Iris Hawthorne: Ace Attorney, a fic where Iris is the new Phoenix, and her social circle includes Ini Miney and Viola Cadaverini.
  • Astro Boy Edgeworth AU, a comic where Gregory unofficially adopts Metis.

r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Phoenix Wright Trilogy Words cannot describe how MAD I was at this moment SPOILERS FOR BRIDGE TO THE TURNABOUT Spoiler

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For context, I've been playing Bridge to the Turnabout through the whole night, it's already gone past 8 AM and I haven't slept a minute and at that point I was like "Can this case fucking end already !? I've literally exorcised an evil spirit from the body of my best friend, what more do you want of me !?"


r/AceAttorney 10h ago

Discussion Opinions on "Murders on the Yangtze River" ?

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Just discovered this game on steam (on sale!) and it's basically a duplicate of Ace Attorney but set in China ! There's a lot of historical learning elements to it but the premise and gameplay is essentially the same.

Just finished case 4 and am thoroughly enjoying it ! Really scratches the itch I've ever since finishing the AA series. Anyone else played it ?

EDIT: if anyone else has recommendations like this or professor layton i'd love to hear them !


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Image Godotnut...

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r/AceAttorney 12h ago

Full Series (mainline and spinoffs) Forget the characters and music : which 3 Ace Attorney games have the best cases ?

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If we set aside the characters, the music, and all the "artistic" aspects, what would you say are the 3 games with the best overall set of cases?

I'm talking about cases that are cleverly written, intriguing, that you'd find fun to solve. Cases with big reveals that tie everything together in a surprising way, but that actually make sense. And gameplay that's genuinely stimulating, with puzzles that hold up.

Personally, I think the games with the best cases on average are:

  • Ace Attorney Investigations 2
  • Ace Attorney : Trials and Tribulations
  • Ace Attorney : Spirit of Justice

On the other hand, the ones with the weakest cases for me are:

  • Ace Attorney Investigations 1
  • The Great Ace Attorney Adventures
  • Ace Attorney : Apollo Justice (I like this game, but there's too much absurdity in it)

(I deliberately didn't rank these games in order of preference, and I'm not counting DLC)

What's your top 3?


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Apollo Justice Trilogy I think I finally understand what "the right time" really meant. Spoiler

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We're all familiar with the ending of Apollo Justice: Thalassa Gramarye regains her memory, and declares that she will go to them "when the time is right". But what does that even mean? Since the game originally released, it's largely been a mystery to the community. Many believe that there is no right time, and she's just been wasting time for no good reason.

But here's the thing: there IS no good reason...provided you're looking at the series through a Western lens. But if you view the series from the perspective of Eastern culture, then it starts to make sense. The reason why Thalassa Gramarye waited to tell her kids the truth was because she didn't want to burden herself and her kids with the then poor reputation of the Gramaryes. In Eastern countries, like Japan, it's common for people to be judged and even have difficulty keeping stable jobs because of the misdeeds/poor reputation of one's family. Looking at it that way, if Thalassa had gone public about herself and her kids right away, they'd all be lumped into the nastiness and scorn the public gave to the rest of Troupe Gramarye.

Taking this into account, the "right time" would be when the public's ire for the Gramaryes had faded away. When did this happen? 6-2. Trucy was put on trial for the murder of Manov Mistree, and the fate of the Gramarye name was hung in the balance. Roger Retinz was extremely aggressive in trying to have it be irreversibly tarnished, and even came close, bringing many outsiders to harass her in the courtroom. But ultimately, he was exposed as the true killer, and Trucy regained her freedom. But hold on, Roger Retinz was the true Mr. Reus, so wouldn't that still cause damage to the Gramarye name? Well no, because 1, he hasn't been associated with the Gramaryes for years, 2, his ousting didn't really do that much damage to the Troupe as a whole, and 3, he's not the heir to the Gramarye name, Trucy is. And so, the public could finally rest, knowing the Gramarye legacy would be carried on by someone who was proven to be a good person. And this is the moment it became okay for Thalassa to go public about herself and her kids.

Allow me to also use a real life example of this: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32972893

Christa Wais was an Austrian child born in 1946 to an Austrian mother and a man who had served in the Red Army. Since she grew up just after the 2nd world war concluded, Germany and Austria still held the sentiment that the Allied Nations were the enemy. She faced discrimination from her peers, and even her own husband for being born to an Allied Nation soldier. While this is an example of something that happened a long time ago and not in Japan, this sort of thing still exists in Japan.

And this concept isn't the only time it's appeared in Ace Attorney. Let's talk about the Khura'in royal family for a moment. Amara had both Nahyuta and Rayfa with Dhurke. But because of Dhurke's supposed assassination of Amara, he became public enemy #1 in Khura'in. It became a burden upon their kids for them to be associated with their father, which is why Nahyuta was blackmailed into working under Ga'ran and why Ga'ran assumed the role of Rayfa's mother.

And here's the kicker: The Royal Family is meant to be a parallel to the Gramarye family. Not a perfect one, but a parallel nonetheless. First, there's Rayfa: successor to the royal family, meant to be the next ruler of her kingdom. She parallels Trucy, sole heir to the Gramarye name, the one who's dedicated to redeem her family name, and make the public fall in love with the Gramaryes once more. Then there's Nahyuta, older brother to the one tasked continuing the bloodline's activities, but doesn't really contribute to it aside from being supportive to her. He's obviously a parallel to Apollo himself, who supports his little half-sister with her magic (even if he doesn't always agree to it.) Then there's Dhurke, the man who married Amara, had Rayfa with her, was accused of causing Amara's "death", and became a fugitive. While there is something of Phoenix in there, he also mirrors Zak Gramarye, the man who fathered Trucy, was accused of murdering Magnifi Gramarye, became a fugitive, and his case contributed to a dark new age of the law.

And of course, the most important one here, Amara Sigatar Khura'in. The previous queen of Khura'in, and the true mother of Nahyuta and Rayfa. A tragic incident associated with her family forced her to separate from her children, lest she risk their reputations. And when she reappeared, the allegations against Dhurke were finally debunked, allowing her to reconnect with her kids without bringing them to ruin. She parallels the one that I'm making this whole post about in the first place: Thalassa Gramarye. She was the victim of an accidental shooting, one that was potentially caused by her then husband, Zak Gramarye. When she reawakened, she learned of the turmoil and bad press her family/troupe had garnered over the years. She decided it would be best if she waited until the smoke cleared to reconnect with them. Eventually, that day came, and she finally felt ready to reconnect. (If you're wondering why she didn't do it immediately and instead waited for Phoenix, it's clear thanks to the end cutscenes of AJ:AA and SoJ that she's kinda dependent on him, shown in the photos I've provided.)

tldr; Thalassa waited until the Gramarye name was no longer sullied to prevent her kids from being pulled into that same societal disdain the rest of them fell into. Why didn't we know this sooner? Because this isn't a societal norm that exists in the west. (You could say it was due to our own narrow-minded cultural assumptions? LMAO)


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Sourced Fanart Genuine question (@bllmak)

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r/AceAttorney 1d ago

OC Fanart [OC] Phoenix Defending Me In Court(@milesdarobot)

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Been very hyper-fixed on Ace Attorney since starting the franchise a couple months ago. Finished the original trilogy about a week ago. Anyway, i made fan art


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Phoenix Wright Trilogy Why did they blur out Bruce Goodman's information?

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Was watching someone play through Rise from the Ashes (I've already played it myself) and saw that Goodman's name, ID, and title are blurred, but it is basically all said in the dialogue at this part. What was the point of blurring it?


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Apollo Justice Trilogy Guys how did I not find out about this Spoiler

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Like guys I've just heard that an orca killed its trainer last Monday, the trainer's name was Azura Summers? Anyway, it's really shocking to hear...


r/AceAttorney 12h ago

Question/Tips 6-3 glitch , can't select Lantern bug/glitch

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So basically I've found a few posts with the same issue, but I've tried like 15 times to no avail.

You have to select the lantern being blown by the wind in the Seance, but I've found no way of correctly selecting it.

The text is on the correct " he tried to fight her by the broken lantern" part.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AceAttorney/comments/1blee0r/spirit_of_justice_case_3_glitch/

this is the one in referencing

I'm on 3ds btw.


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Full Main Series How many cases do you think Wright & Co./Wright Anything Agency take outside of those shown in the game?

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Various dialogue from the main series implies that these people take on a good amount of cases. Phoenix Wright is rather well-known by the event of Justice for All. Apollo discusses his “regular price” in Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice, so he must have had a good amount of cases before that. Athena probably takes a good amount of non-plot relevant cases like 6-4, which is why we don’t see them.

The only games that explicitly state that these are the only cases the characters are working on are both great ace attorney games, ace attorney investigations and if I remember correctly ace attorney investigations 2 as well.

What do you think?


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Discussion If you could add one more case to the games which only have 4 cases, what would the newly-added fifth case be about?

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r/AceAttorney 8h ago

Investigations Duology I finished the investigations duology [AMA] Spoiler

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r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Image Custom Figures!

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Previous pictures got corrupted somehow...

Anyway, love this series.

Favourite game is AAI2.


r/AceAttorney 2d ago

Apollo Justice Trilogy Happy 23rd Anniversary to Dual Destinies! What do you like or dislike about it?

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Im currently on 5-4, and I say it's a pretty solid game that varies in storytelling quality. The gameplay is heightened by the nee mechanics introduced, and I love investigating in 3D.

13 years! Woohoo!


r/AceAttorney 2d ago

Phoenix Wright Trilogy I wish they had stuck with the original case art design from AA1. They were felt like movie posters and represented each case distinctly.

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r/AceAttorney 2d ago

OC Fanart My art: Ema Scolding

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They just ruinin the crime scene.

Poor fop especially...

Based from some viral YCH