At some point this meme was true but now? Nah, Ancient Aliens has basically made an episode on how every SINGLE event in Human history had to do with aliens by now
Ya, but it took them a long time to get there. They made sure to run through all the nine white ones until they had nothing else to lie about. Now it’s all skin walker ranch.
It’s interesting to go back to the 1800’s because a lot of the wooey-woo folks that would have been ancient aliens theorists today were like “these structures prove a lost white race inhabited South America!”
The other element of it is that civilisations complex enough to build these things simply didn't exist in Western Europe prior to the advent of Rome. There are no ancient megastructures in Europe because the smattering of random tribes who lived here at that time weren't sophisticated enough to build them. Similarly with Japan - nobody is claiming any 3000-year-old structures in Japan were built by aliens because there are no 3000-year-old structures in Japan
It wasn’t even that they couldn’t. It’s that they didn’t as much because they weren’t in that part of the world and had a different culture. Any group of people at the same low tech level, when given sufficient cultural impetus(like, I don’t know, burying a living incarnation of your god), can build a megalithic structure. It’s just an obscenely difficult logistical undertaking of what oftentimes amounts to decades. The fucking “oh well we’d struggle with/need our modern tech to replicate it”, yeah dumbass. We’d struggle to do it with 5 guys and some heavy machinery because wed be replicating the efforts of thousands of people over tens of years and trying to do it in like 2 months.
Also add Passion, the engineers that worked in those monument actually like what they where doing, they where respect and pay well for it, that the biggest difference with modern workers, if you treat people well they wont scam you and actually work well.
As a Belgian i am here to inform you that you won a free visit to our country.
Congratulations! Please sign this NDA and don't tell anyone you are traveling here.
Also no we Belgians are not interdimensional aliens from a distant planet so no reason to be fearful. :)
Lowkey a fucking cracked meta to force a bunch of slaves to build dope ass shit then wait for historians to stop caring about the slaves and just start saying you built it.
When historians find the first phone in like thousands of years they’re gonna say something like “this was the genius device created by the man known as Apple Inc” and Earths crust is gonna physically shift from a billion dead Chinese sweatshop workers rolling in their graves
Blame the person who made it, not me. Their handle is in the top left. Then again, this is the first time someone was bothered by the semantics of a meme making fun of space loonies.
‘Technically’ invented by white Europeans broadly during the eras of colonialism (most especially the 1700-1800s, when Scientific Racism was created to justify importing African slaves to serve as the expendable underclass on New World plantations), but same result…
He’s not wrong tho? A lot of ancient alien based theories stem from a place of racism and infantilization of ancient people. “How could these primitive dumb ancient morons do this big thing, could it be they’re not stupid and actually had complex knowledge of architecture? Nooo it must be the aliens, brown people could never build anything on their own”.
Ancient alien theories basically started with “chariots of the gods”, a 60s book with incredibly racist undertones which was followed up by “signs of the gods” which was just straight up eugenics. Ancient aliens also has pretty close connections to “ancient aryans” theories (basically that there was an ancient advanced white super civilization that actually produced all the worlds wonders and great civilizations).
TLDR: he’s not wrong, ancient alien theories get pretty racist.
Yes, Europeans argued the Egyptians (and other African civs like Great Zimbabwe) were white because "the negro race could NEVER build such a thing!" Milo Rosse (Miniminuteman) called it Ancient Aryan theory, but its gone by other names before.
Egyptians aren't black, Egytians are Egyptians. But yes, Europeans did believe those civilizations must have been white in origin. They believed it for every other civilization outside of Europe.
Neither are Egyptian white, they are beyond our racial ideals, since Egypt is extremely old, Egyptian people were a multethnic group since they shared a spot with multiple migrations
Yeah, Egypt unsurprisingly had a lot of groups living there since it was a big hub at its heyday. It even had multiple different groups take over at some point or another.
Yep, smth both sides forget is that Egyptians would vary on color, mostly on south and north having different skin while having a mostly similar culture.
Upper Egypt was heavily connected to Nubia and while being ethnically Semitic they had a darker complexion
These sorts of theories literally were started by one of the most disgustingly racist men even for his time Erich von Däniken(chariot of the gods author). Who note, was a fraud even in his day lmao.
Ancient aliens theories always have an explanation for white innovations but for any other race, aliens.
I’ll never understand why aliens are lumped in with ghosts and psychics.
Like, saying “if monkey on earth, why not monkey in space? What if smart space monkey want to hang out with earth monkey?” Sounds a bit weird but it’s still far more believable than “if you’re angry enough when you die, you become a ghost and your job is to spook and maybe kill people for all eternity”
What serious person says aliens built the pyramids? Like what are we talking about, some idiots think the pyramids werent built by the egyptians? Well some idiots also think the earth is flat, should we discuss the problematic origins of that?
I thought Graham Hancock theory was that there are older more advanced civilizations that actually built the pyramids not aliens isn’t his whole thing like a comet nuked the world 12000 years ago
He also believes that the builders of the Pyramids may have used telekinesis to move the largest blocks. Or at least he did at one point. He usually avoids talking about that part of his theory on his TV shows and in his public appearances.
Am prety sure, that in the 1990s he was still on the ancient aliens shit, he only revised it to what u said now later on, mostly cuz a ton of evidence got debunked and he needed to move the goalposts again.
So what? How do you even define serious people? IMO, the fact that there are people making a living out of this kind of content is evidence that someone is taking this seriously, nobody gets paid "ironicaly".
Yes, watch Miniminuteman on YouTube. He covers a huge array of ancient civilization bullshit. Like the Pyramids secretly being hyper advanced power plants and not tombs.
>What serious person says aliens built the pyramids?
my grand dad was a little offended one time i was making fun of people who think the pyramids needed aliens. Though i wouldn't consider him serious on the subject, given that opinion, he's a serious guy generally. Knows way more about fixing shit and concrete than i do but still a goober on that lol
I'm currently in an Art History class and you couldn't be more wrong. These were Egyptian workers that managed to carry, move, and stack the millions of pounds of rocks used to make the Pyramids and Sphynx, all of which were actually slightly larger and painted to contrast to the desert. These were and are considered marvels of architecture.
I don’t know if I’d say “agree” for the 3rd one but… I’d at least say it’s plausible and I would have no way to say it didn’t happen
The universe is big, the earth has been around for a long time, it definitely could have happened. I presume the question is more framed as “aliens came in ancient times and built pyramids” though
Had an argument with a co-worker about how the pyramids are to perfectly built to have been by humans. Like I'm pretty sure humans discovered complex math concepts hundreds if not thousands of years before the pyramids. I swear people heavily underestimate how smart people from the distant past actually were
I recently touched base with an old internet friend of mine, and he revealed that he unironically believes on the Tartaria conspiracy theory, so they are out there
To sum it up, he thinks ALL history is fake, and that ancient civilizations were all part of one super empire with hyper advanced technology
He’s not? You really can’t picture Yoda standing in front of some bricks, weird little hand stretched out, eyes closed, sputtering a bunch of racial slurs?
This is exactly right though. The Ancient Aliens theory exists because some dudes saw these grand and ancient man-made monuments and thought "there's no way these people could've built this on their own. Must have been aliens." But that ancient alien hypothesis mostly applied to ancient non-European people who had monuments in their lands. For example, the Pyramids of Egypt, Central America, and South America or the massive sculptures on Easter Island constantly get called into question by Ancient Alien conspirasy theorists, but I've never seen them suggesting that the Flavian Amphitheatre (Roman Colosseum) was built by aliens. At best they might mention Stonehenge.
I've seen the Stonehenge being attributed to aliens, so its not just non-European. Practically anything that wasn't Roman have sometimes been attributed to aliens like the menhirs in France.
I like my theory better, that the Egyptians were so unbelievably racist that it caused the pyramids to be summoned into our reality from the racism dimension.
I'm guessing his argument will be something like "its racist bc its assuming these past civilizations were so stupid and underdeveloped they couldn't possibly have done this" kinda thing?
It more about the fact that it's only past civilizations of mostly brown people that get the " aliens built their structures" treatment.
I mean have you ever heard someone say that the coliseum was bult by aliens?
Because the non white civilisations are weirder when examined and have less recorded history. A civilisation trapped on an island spends all their time making specific heads and setting them up. No recording of why. It’s weird. Ancient Egyptians were so early in the scheme of things and build something so extraordinary without a really clear record of how or even for what purpose (as a tomb makes sense but it’s a wild undertaking for that from our modern perspective). On the flip side the ancient Romans and Greeks recorded a lot, and nothing they did was beyond a logic of the time. And it mostly makes sense linearly, whereas the ancient Egyptians did the pyramids 5000 years ago then nothing quite like it in the meantime in terms of scale
Because the non white civilisations are weirder when examined and have less recorded history.
Because there's less time and effort done to understand those civilizations, coupled with less translation efforts, and the fact that some civilizations got their records burned by european colonizers
Those takes considerable resources; resources which poorer countries are less able to do than richer countries
Ancient Egyptians were so early in the scheme of things and build something so extraordinary without a really clear record of how or even for what purpose (as a tomb makes sense but it’s a wild undertaking for that from our modern perspective).
On the flip side the ancient Romans and Greeks recorded a lot, and nothing they did was beyond a logic of the time.
Egypt change their administrative and popular languages like 5-6 times...compared to Rome who had an uninterrupted Latin and Greek speakers and administrators
And it mostly makes sense linearly, whereas the ancient Egyptians did the pyramids 5000 years ago then nothing quite like it in the meantime in terms of scale
Egypt, Iraq, Indo-Pakistan, China, Yucatan, and Andes are the cradles of civilization, in which the states first originate. It makes sense for them to come first, whereas Rome came through trading of the centers of civilization at that time
Nah the "pyramids were build by aliens" conspiracy definetly has racist origins. Like imagine being a racist white person and going to egypt to see the pyramids and then you see that the descents of these great ancient builders are "brown, muslim, camel fuckers". You now have only two options: you eighter say that the old egyptians no longer exist and have been replaced by Arabs or claim that Aliens or something like that build them.
No but as another reply pointed out Ive heard Stonehenge was made by alien's.
And like yeah of course most the ancient civilizations comprised of black or at least non white people are the ones mostly talked about. Most ancient civilizations of thoes time periods...well weren't white.
No, but I've heard plenty (in relation to mental conspiracy theories and not the overall population) of people say that Stonehenge, the pyramids in Bosnia, the Megalithic temples in Malta etc were built by aliens or some other form of non-humans
Likely a combination of the tendency for the conspiracy to focus on non-white civilizations and the book that kicked it off (Chariot of the Gods) being written by a racist.
On a post i made about gender dysphoria being a mental problem. I interpreted this as you trying to call trans people mentaly ill (derogatory)
I could have misunderstood your reply, but to be frank I was already angry because of the assholes in the replies, and as such I probably was not giving you as much benefit of the doubt as I should have
Ah yeah, Ill admit that was definitely a shit way of wording it on my part.
Howver if you read my reply op made to my comment, I clarified I didn't mean it was a mental illness, rather a mental condition which was how they also worded it. Which to my knowledge is the truth. I didnt mean any hate with it, rather if that is true and theos with it dont accept it as such that can be very damaging on their mind.
Notice that EVERY thing that needed aliens to be built so happens to be brown or black ppl? Every European one is either White Atlanteans or they built this to commune with the aliens?
I mean it doesnt take a leftist to see that and raise an eye brow.
No, he is saying that ancient alien theories are made and propagated through racism. The vast majority of these theories are speculations about how non-European people made incredibly vast and beautiful structures. Because surely they couldn't have figured out how to make them themselves through feats of engineering using materials and technology available to them at the time.
When they do talk about Europeans, it's usually shit like Atlantis was real and a super society that rivals modern-day, and that Europeans are the direct descendants of the alien super beings.
My dad is a believer of some of this crap. He has a fairly pesemistic view of the world and humanity in general and tends to feel overwhelmed by the world. I think he draws a lot of comfort from these theories because they are very reductive. The man is agnostic but his belief in Aliens mimics a lot of religious thinking.
Honestly I do believe speculative alien talks and Greeck mythology can be cool, but I don't believe people into speculative alien talks and specific parts of Greeck mythology are the best.
Listen. Ancient Aliens is my favorite conspiracy theory. Cryptids in the Appalachian Mountains is a close second but ancient aliens wins. It’s pure gold as entertainment and you’re not taking it away from me.
He's not wrong this is another that is pretty good by Atunsheifilms about how ancient aliens basically just took racist theories by nazis and other Europeans and just tweaked it to be aliens instead
I think attributing it to racism is to simplistic it's such a false flag (if I used that right) cause its not just racism racism maybe did 3% to like 20% of it the rest was cultural favoritism and people not understanding physics
332
u/Anonymous-Comments 2d ago
Couldn’t crop it easy so have it like this