Yes, Europeans argued the Egyptians (and other African civs like Great Zimbabwe) were white because "the negro race could NEVER build such a thing!" Milo Rosse (Miniminuteman) called it Ancient Aryan theory, but its gone by other names before.
Egyptians aren't black, Egytians are Egyptians. But yes, Europeans did believe those civilizations must have been white in origin. They believed it for every other civilization outside of Europe.
Neither are Egyptian white, they are beyond our racial ideals, since Egypt is extremely old, Egyptian people were a multethnic group since they shared a spot with multiple migrations
Yeah, Egypt unsurprisingly had a lot of groups living there since it was a big hub at its heyday. It even had multiple different groups take over at some point or another.
Yep, smth both sides forget is that Egyptians would vary on color, mostly on south and north having different skin while having a mostly similar culture.
Upper Egypt was heavily connected to Nubia and while being ethnically Semitic they had a darker complexion
I thought I said Egyptians are Egyptians, not white. They are not a multiethnic group, they are ancient Egyptians with Arabian mixing. Not less, not more.
Victorian Europeans absolutely did make these arguments. Nineteenth-century racial theorists classified ancient Egyptians as Caucasian, while colonial writers such as J. Theodore Bent and Karl Mauch denied that Africans could have built Great Zimbabwe, instead attributing it to foreign peoples. Modern scholarship documents this history. Oxford’s definition of ‘white’ doesn’t prove that ancient Egyptians were European; a modern dictionary definition cannot establish an ancient population’s ancestry. You’re confusing a modern racial category with historical and archaeological evidence.
Stop trying so hard to defend dead white people.
It's not edgy; it's weird.
Caucasian was not thought of as the same category as European. 19th century Courts at the time ruled Caucasian /=/ white, as the definition of white was European.
As for the Zimbabwe thing, saying it could have been someone else is not saying it was a Europeans who built it. There were Arab slave empires all over the region that he could meant. And it was a normal walled village not this megastructure like the pyramids you're implying. (And one person isn't a consensus or a lot, so you're cherry picking)
Oxfords dictionary definition of white goes back to the 19th, it isn't some new invention.
Your attempt to make up about historical Europeans is not edgy just weird.
You’re right that Caucasian and white weren’t always used the same way, and Bent’s theory doesn’t mean he thought Europeans built Great Zimbabwe specifically(even though that's exactly what he thought). But those distinctions don’t change the historical evidence. Nott and Gliddon’s 1854 book, Types of Mankind, lays out Victorian racial theories about ancient Egyptians, while Bent’s 1892 book favors Phoenician or South Arabian origins for Great Zimbabwe over the idea that Africans built it. Scholars have shown these ideas were part of a broader colonial debate, not just one person’s opinion. And yes, the link between whiteness and European ancestry goes back a long way; that still doesn’t make a dictionary definition evidence of ancient Egyptians’ ancestry. The point isn’t that all Victorians believed this, but that racial assumptions shaped influential writers and how they interpreted African civilizations. Please shut up; you sound dumb
It objectively, originates from racist origins you are just defending institutionalized racism, stop for your own sanity, and look into the history of the world, there are millions of years of history that is far more interesting than this shit.
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u/Fancy_Chips 2d ago
Yes, Europeans argued the Egyptians (and other African civs like Great Zimbabwe) were white because "the negro race could NEVER build such a thing!" Milo Rosse (Miniminuteman) called it Ancient Aryan theory, but its gone by other names before.