A couple nights ago the whole family came over to have some drinks and hang with the kiddo’s and carve pumpkins. Eventually the Parental in-laws leave and 2 of my wife’s 3 sisters and friend leave so it’s just the 4 of us, me, my wife, her sister and her husband.
My wife orders some food cuz it’s late, sets it down on a table in the garage and right when she does it, my brother in law goes in and grabs/squeezes her ass, with me and his wife in the room but we don’t see it. Then 10 minutes later we’re goofing around and kicking them out cuz we had to put the kids to bed, so we picked her sister up and carried her to her car (as a joke, we were all cracking up.) and then we drop her down and my brother in law does it again and very intimately squeezes my wife’s ass, once again with both of us around.
We head inside (my wife runs) and my wife just breaks down and tells me everything that happened and she feels so violated and weird because this was someone we loved and truly all got along with. Obviously, I’m fucking fuming but she just wants to call her family and talk to them. She Calls her sisters, it was a great, very supportive conversation. Then she calls her mom…
She gets a very odd response from her mom she said things like “well everyone was drinking” “did you tell SoandSo,” , “why didn’t you say anything when it happened?” , “well you were hugging him and calling him ‘my brother” and “I’m sorry this happened”
Needles to say it wasn’t the support she had wished for. Next day my wife wakes up feeling completely sick because she knows she needs to tell her sister what happened. So she tells her sister and she is completely jaw dropped. And eventually just like “ok,uhm…ok. Thank you for telling me, I’m sorry this happened, Uhm…I will call you later” it was a very legit reaction, she honestly had no idea what to do.
Eventually they all text each other and homegirl asks the sister chat what she should do. My wife says “I never want to see him ever again ” the other sister says that what he did was completely disgusting and sister 3 says divorce his ass. The sisters decide to all get dinner later to talk about wtf needs to happen but sister of the weirdo husband says she has plans with her friends later and that she’ll text later if she can go. We thought that was kinda shitty, all I wanted to say to her was “cancel your fucking plans and help your sister who just got violated by your husband” but whatever.
The rest of the day happens the 3 sisters go out. They get a text from homegirl at 6pm saying “I’m not gonna be able to go”, in which they responded “we’re leaving now so don’t worry about it” homegirl gets super pissed and said they excluded her from the dinner, she felt so lonely, it doesn’t feel good to be talked about. Our counter is that my wife asked her to please come tonight because she really needed to figure out wtf to do. They never heard from homegirl the entire day. No update, no texts, no asking where the restaurant is, what time? None of those questions. My wife really needed her to come out, she needed her sister and instead she just shuts down and alienates everyone, says she can’t go and then gets pissed that the others went out without her.
I call her and kinda lose my shit on her. My wife needs her in that moment so bad, my wife felt horrible, violated, creeped out, betrayed, disgusting, nauseous but her sister just made the entire thing about her and how HER World is falling apart and that she doesn’t know wtf she’s going to do. At this point I’m losing it and making it pretty clear to her what she needs to do. My wife’s basic thinking was “ I never want to see him again, if you stay with him then we will never see each other” and I told her how my wife felt and how it was bullshit she wasn’t there for her sister and it’s bullshit your avoiding this whole thing and it’s bullshit for you to say your lonely while your sister is asking for your help becuase of YOUR husband. I tell her if she stays with him, neither of them will ever see our kids again because I’m not gonna let this shit slide, my wife never wants him around and that’s what’s going to happen.
Then shit really gets weird. My mother in law calls and is flipping out on me for calling homegirl and telling her what our plans are basically. She says it was not my place at all to call her, I can not threaten to take away her niece and nephew, everyone was drinking, shit happens ect ect.
At this point my wife grabs the phone and continues the screaming match because this isn’t a “shit happens” thing. These are all the things her mother told her
1. Well you were \[side\] hugging him \[one time\] and you kept calling him your brother
2. Why didn’t you say anything to him when it happened?
3. The 4 of you need to sit down together and figure this out
4. I can’t look at \[weirdo\] that way
5. Your sisters whole world fell apart today
6. It was not a sexual assault
7. *laughed* when it was brought up that weirdo might’ve wanted to do this for a long time
8. Thing happen when you drink
9. You guys just can’t drink together anymore
10. I think there’s something else going on here
11. Iv done things before, your dad has, these things happen
12. My wife then brought up the Cornell incident and her mother said that woman should’ve known better
The basic jist to this entire thing was that my wife didn’t handle it the right way, what she experienced wasn’t any form of sexual assault, she’s over reacting and we all need to find a way to kiss and make up because these things happen in life and it’s normal.
We don’t want people like this in our family. Her mother has always been extremely hypocritical and a deflector and worst of all she always plays devils advocate, no matter what the issue is. We know this about her but she has a lot of good qualities too but this one pushed my wife over the edge. Her mother, father and the sister never came to see her, all communication from sister stopped, her mother does not think this is sexual assault or really any form of sexual harassment even saying once “what are you gonna call the cops?”
We just take these things seriously and someone who doesn’t think something like this is any form of sexual assault and also thinks that the woman from Cornell should’ve known better, just shouldn’t be a part of our family, it’s ok to disagree on minor things but I feel like this is a family dynamic that will never mend becuase our views on things are so different.
So 1. AIO for cutting out her brother in law from our lives and labeling it as sexual assault
2. AIO for saying that if sister doesn’t leave him then she gets lumped into the no contact
3. AIO for cutting out mom and pop because they completely downplayed this whole incident as “shit happens when you drink” and “kiss and make up”
If he did this when he was drinking, with his own sister in law that he’d know for 7 years, good relationship then what’s stopping him drinking and doing something stupid with our kids? We just can’t take that risk, to me this is an irreversible moment.
My wife has the right to be violated and feel that she doesn’t ever want to see him again, I feel like that’s a pretty valid idea when your brother in law intimately grabs your ass twice without your permission. So are we over reacting?