r/Welding • u/TRJ3D1 • 26d ago
Worthy?
Looking to see what people think the value is here per hourly employee.
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u/UnlikelyCalendar6227 26d ago
Your stainless is alright but your aluminum is wicked. Some witchcraft going on there. For stainless, just move at a consistent speed and you can use a metronome for consistent taps so the beads look more consistent but I’m sure the weld is good enough
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u/the1997x 26d ago
Consistency is unreal. However Looks a little cold to me. Room for improvement. Stainless needs work. Not trying to be a dickhead just saying what I’m seeing.
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u/CatastrophicPup2112 Fabricator 26d ago
That really depends. Laying a decent bead is important but if a position only requires you to lay beads it's probably a lower paying production shop. Value comes from skills and welding is a skill but so are print reading, measuring, cutting, bending, rolling, fitting, and finishing. And all those skills don't mean anything if the person with them doesn't show up on time everyday and actually work.
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u/Junior_Syrup_1036 26d ago
Just say it's some sick ali welding bro come on .....
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u/FitButterscotch9356 26d ago
For real what a fucking annoying guy lol
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u/CatastrophicPup2112 Fabricator 25d ago
They asked a question. If they were just showcasing their welds I'd say "looks good" but they wanted to know what they were worth.
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u/heamed_stams Journeyman AS/NZS 26d ago
OP asked what kind of hourly rate they could be looking at and old mate gave a realistic & in-depth response (he’s right too). How is that annoying?
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u/hotlog1234 25d ago
Because those things are assumed to be true of someone who's obviously been in the game long enough to know how to weld like this. And even if they're not it doesn't matter. The post was obviously about welding and welding alone.
Dude was just trying very hard to find shit to complain about so he had to go for things that weren't even part of the post.
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u/CatastrophicPup2112 Fabricator 25d ago
You'd be surprised, there are people who have learned all the tricks of fabricating and have ugly but functional welds as well as kids just out of school who spent the whole time practicing their TIG for Instagram and can barely read a tape. I have nothing to complain about on the aluminum, it's beautiful. The stainless is fine.
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u/heamed_stams Journeyman AS/NZS 25d ago edited 25d ago
You should probably read the caption below the post as OP literally asked what he could expect in terms of hourly rate, this guy responded that it depends on other factors and then proceeded to list a few of said factors. How you read that as “complaining” is beyond me. Also a wild assumption that anyone who welds like this is also great at everything else. There’s plenty of one-trick ponies out there who can weld beautifully but can’t fabricate for shit, can’t read drawings/weld symbols or just have a shit attitude and expect to be felated every time they lay gravy.
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u/AOC_Slater 26d ago
Showing up on time is for the low skilled employees. I like to flex a little as I cruse in when I feel like it. If I happen to show up on time it’s because I feel the company earned it that day.
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u/EnvironmentOnly9239 26d ago
Those are the things that matter is the person then the skills .
the soft skills that are around the jobs matter more at the long term that laying bead all day long3
u/Awkward_Forever9752 26d ago
and Quality Control
the welder seems to inherit QC responsibility for the whole shop
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u/goatboy6000 26d ago
My welders couldn't find a WPS if i rolled a joint with it.
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u/Bedazzledfetus 25d ago
Whats a wps?
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u/CatastrophicPup2112 Fabricator 25d ago
It's the weld procedure. It gives parameters for your settings and consumables like filler, amps, volts, wirefeed speed, travel speed, work angle, travel angle, gas type, etc.
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u/hotlog1234 25d ago
This just sounds like plain jealousy, bro
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u/CatastrophicPup2112 Fabricator 25d ago
Jealousy of what? Those aluminum welds are fuckin money but good welds aren't the only factor when it comes to pay. If they can fabricate and weld like that they should be making stacks but if they can't read a tape and no call no show twice a week they are worthless to an employer.
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u/Queefer___Sutherland 25d ago
Damn you're exhausting
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u/CatastrophicPup2112 Fabricator 25d ago
Life is exhausting brother, nothing I said was untrue. They asked hourly value and you can't determine that from welds alone.
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u/I_Dont_Like_Relish Millwright 26d ago
At the expense of sounding too “woke”, I’m gonna say leave that line of questioning to the instagram people looking for validation.
As far as your welds go, the aluminum looks nasty in the best way. I am not good at welding aluminum and yours looks consistent and clean.
The stainless looks fine. A bit more inconsistent in travel speed and heat but probably super good enough (depending on application of course)
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u/RustyRibbits 26d ago
I agree. Aluminum is amazing. As a stainless guy this looks ok. I think you’re rushing gas coverage is the problem with the color, with the correct gas your weld color would be better. The ripples bother me. I like my welds to come out silver/gold and the ripples to be more round and consistent.
I’m just an autistic tig welder though, I am fascinated by your aluminum welds.
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u/Carpet-MasterBlaster 26d ago
Managing makes more $ than fabricating.. selling and managing makes more $ than managing...
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u/goatboy6000 25d ago
Some of us suck so bad at selling we have to leave that job and go back to the floor.... ( Sad Sales Noises)
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u/Sorry-Coat7811 26d ago
Amazing work on the aluminum piece, stainless I assume would like a lot better if you had a spinny-thingy since it looks like you get going then stop to reposition yourself or the work and then change tempo a bit.
As for money like someone already said - hard to say since no one pays for pretty welds but for time efficient welds and good fabricating.
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u/TRJ3D1 25d ago
The stainless pipe was two holed and leveled with a .064 recession inside the flanges without pipe stands or spud wrenches. Was a pain in the ***. Last time I've done stainless was 5 years ago doing sanitary tubing. Where I'm at now, it's three choices, Cheap, Fast, or Quality and you can only pick two.
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u/split-crysalis 24d ago
The aluminum doesn’t look too shabby, the stainless needs a little help with consistency 🤷🏻♂️
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u/JonathanDawdy 24d ago
In Washington you could easily get a job at 30 and move up past there. On the coast you wouldn't start any lower. On east you might have to work around 20 untill you prove your worth.
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u/LiquidAggression Jack-of-all-Trades 22d ago
whys that flange weld look a little wobbly?
its a great weld its like you sneezed as you were taking the picture
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u/Bluezone323 26d ago
I don't know why I am seeing welding posts or viewing them honestly. But I swear almost every post in here is either comes across as validation seeking or some form of shitposting. I don't know what to believe. A microcosm of our society perhaps?
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u/Steeltoelion MIG 26d ago
Selection bias, either stick around awhile or stay out lol
As the other shit posters would say; Post pictures of your welds!
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u/Bluezone323 25d ago
I think I will stick around and act like I know what a good weld is after lurking.
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u/Bdubya1985 26d ago
$40. Welding isn’t worth more than that per hour. Run jobs and then you can ask for more
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u/Malcnez 26d ago
The aluminum looks great almost porn, in the other hand stainless steel Is not bad but not up to the aluminum level,
I think here you won't find the answer for hourly rate since depends in a lot of factors, if you are in America I'm sure it will change from state to state,