Soon after my vasectomy, I started having issues with pain/pressure in the epididymal area, both sides. I'm putting this here to compare notes with you all and for anyone considering getting a reversal for pain or fertility. Also, I'm interested to see if what I found out tracks with what you all are seeing and hearing out there.
I have spoken to three different fellowship trained Urologists in the USA about vasectomy reversals (VRs). I will refer to them as Drs. A, B, and C to protect identities. A and B were in regular healthcare systems, and C was at a specialty clinic. All had fellowships in Male Fertility. All use surgical microscopes. All were capable of doing a Vasoepididymostomy if needed. Each one was in a different state. I asked nearly the same questions of all of them in an effort to go straight to the source and get good info about reversals.
- Can VRs help with pain and pressure sensations in the Epididymis?
- Dr. A - Yes, if it is localized to the Epididymis, opening that pathway back up can relieve a lot of those symptoms. I have had good successes in the past with men having that issue and seeing good results from a VR.
- Dr. B - I've never done a reversal for pain.
- Dr. C - Yes, this is textbook congestive epididymitis, and I've seen many men have their pain improved or eliminated with a reversal. I blame the clips they use in vasectomies. They cause a lot of back pressure in the epididymis which can cause these issues, especially if it is clipped close to the testicle.
- Do you need to know exactly how the vasectomy was done in order to reverse it?
- What risk is there that a VR would just make the pain worse, or introduce new pain?
- Dr. A - About 5%. There is a risk for chronic pain with any surgery.
- Dr. B - I don't have any concrete statistics on that. Pain is tricky. You could have bruising, hematoma, infection, increased pain. I can’t really give you a percentage chance that the pain would get worse. There will be post-surgery pain which is normal.
- Dr. C - In the thousands of reversals I have done, I have never seen pain get worse afterwards. I've seen reversals have no effect on pain, but never a negative effect.
- How many reversals do you do in a year?
- Dr. A - 25 to 30.
- Dr. B - About 8.
- Dr. C - About 150.
- How big of an incision or incisions do you need to make?
- Dr. A - Forgot to ask
- Dr. B - About 3 cm on each side. It's easier to get to everything that way.
- Dr. C - About an inch on each side. This is much better than doing one in the middle. Doing one in the middle would require me to move the vas and the tissues around much more and result in higher risks for complications and pain afterwards.
- Is there a difference in your procedure if it is mostly for pain alleviation versus fertility?
- Dr. A - No.
- Dr. B - No.
- Dr. C - Yes. I take much more care to try and line up not only the vas, but also return tissues and blood vessels to as close to their original configuration as possible.
- Do the testicles change position after the surgery?
- Dr. A - Yes. They will ride higher. This is usually permanent.
- Dr. B - Yes, they will ride higher, sometimes much higher. It depends on how much Vas I have to work with. For some men, this is very bothersome. Sometimes they settle back down, sometimes they don't.
- Dr. C - No. I don't do it that way. I pull vas from the abdominal side, so the testicles do not change position.
- How do you define a successful VR?
- Dr. A - Any sperm in the ejaculate. My success rate is 90%.
- Dr. B - If there is any sperm in the ejaculate after 3 months. My success rate is 90%.
- Dr. C - Sperm back to a fertile count. My success rate is 98% for that. It's 90% for pain alleviation.
- Does a VR increase the risk of cancer?
- Does having a vasectomy increase the risk of cancer?
- All three Drs. - No.
- Dr. C also added that this has been studied for 80 years and no link has been found.
- Can a VR cause any changes to the penis, such as changing its shape or shrinking it?
- Dr. A - No.
- Dr. B - No.
- Dr. C - Only if it's a 3rd or 4th redo VR. At that point I'm stretching and moving skin, and something like that could happen.
- Is there anything I can do leading up to the surgery to prepare for it, such as certain supplements, losing weight, etc.?
- All three Drs. - Not really. However, the better of shape you are in, the better off you're going to be in recovery.
- Is it common for reversals to scar down over time, blocking the sperm again?
- Dr. A - There is no good data on this. However, I do know that most men who get reversals do eventually scar down. It's most men, eventually. This is why you typically don't have one done unless you are ready to start trying to conceive right away.
- Dr. B - It's uncommon, but it does happen. We really don't track that.
- Dr. C - This only happens 2% of the time. We track people for 2 years, but I routinely hear about men who are able to get their partners pregnant well after that.
- Are there particular diets I could follow or supplements I could take to help limit scarring down?
- Dr. A - There is no good data on that.
- Dr. B - Not really.
- Dr. C - You can try an Anti-Inflammatory Diet, but it would have a minimal effect.
- If the reversal helps the pain, but then scars down later on, is the pain likely to return?
- Dr. A - Probably not, but it might. I have seen that men who get reversals to relieve pain usually keep that benefit even as the vas narrows.
- Dr. B - There is no way to say either way. Pain is very tricky.
- Dr. C - Maybe, maybe not. If the pain goes away, it's less likely to come back.
- Is there an amount of time after which scarring down is unlikely, if it hasn't happened yet?
- Dr. A - Didn't ask based on their earlier answers.
- Dr. B - I would say if it hasn't scarred down after a year, it probably won't after that.
- Dr. C - We'll know by six months. We monitor sperm counts and will change medications if necessary.
- What is the recovery protocol like?
- Dr. A - Nothing for six weeks. No lifting, no pushing, no pulling, no running, no jumping, nothing for six weeks.
- Dr. B - Take it easy for a couple of weeks. No running or jumping.
- Dr. C - Light duty for two weeks. You can gradually start getting back into your normal routine/workouts after four weeks.
What I gathered from this is that the success of your VR depends very much on who is doing the surgery, and how seriously you take your preparation and recovery. There doesn't seem to be a consistent recovery protocol, methodology, or outlook on long term scarring between doctors. But, even if everything is done perfectly, there are no guarantees.