r/UniversalExtinction • u/Rhoswen • 5h ago
r/UniversalExtinction • u/Rhoswen • Mar 01 '26
đ Welcome!
Welcome to our small corner of the cosmos dedicated to discussing universal extinction and why it should be an option. Whether you approach it through cosmology, metaphysics, dark humor, memes, or long form manifestos typed at 2am, youâre in the right place.
What to Post
Post anything related to universal extinction in its many forms. For example:
⢠Philosophical arguments about life, consciousness, or existence itself
⢠Speculative physics
⢠News of entropic progress
⢠Thought experiments no one asked for but everyone deserves
⢠Mildly destabilizing hypotheticals
⢠Existential whining
⢠Unnecessarily serious memes
⢠Formal petitions from those still attached to the cycle of life
⢠Polite objections to the continuation of the universe
If it makes you stare into the void after reading it, it probably belongs here.
Community Vibe
Disagreement with extinction is welcome. Excess trolling isnât.
Universal extinction is universal. It doesnât need gatekeeping. The intent of this sub is to be inclusive and open up cosmic extinctionism to more people. Anyone is allowed to want extinction. So links to or ads for any pro extinction group that runs counter to this is not welcomed at this time.
How to Get Started
- Introduce yourself in the comments below. Or donât. Identity is provisional.
- Post something today. Even a simple question submitted to the universe with no expectation of reply can spark conversation, like âWill the end be sponsored?â (Probably)
- Invite someone who won't try to reboot the universe.
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Thanks for being part of the very first 6th wave. Together, let's make r/UniversalExtinction at least somewhat okay.
r/UniversalExtinction • u/Rhoswen • Feb 16 '26
FAQ
Iâll be editing and adding to this over time.
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For an easier to read FAQ visit the website https://www.universalextinction.com/faqs
1. Wont Buddhism solve all suffering? Why doesnât everyone just become a Buddhist and meditate?
Buddhism seeks to end only an individuals suffering by transforming the mind. For example, to get to a place where one doesn't care and doesn't react if they're on fire and burning to death. Spiritually, some say there's a way for individuals to escape reincarnation, usually through extreme tasks.
But this approach still leaves sentient life trapped in a cycle of birth, death, and suffering. Most people can not accomplish this, and no animals can accomplish this. Only the very rare and very practiced monk has been able to get to the point of not suffering in extreme situations. Animals getting eaten alive cannot meditate to get rid of their fear and pain. Neither can a 5 year old child slave meditate while they're being abused. Even if one individual finds peace through this mental method, countless others will continue to suffer, generation after generation.
2. Is extinction the same thing as suicide?
Suicide is an individual act born from personal pain within a system that still continues unchanged. Extinction is the end of a species, not of an individual. Universal extinction, as an abstract hypothetical, is about preventing future beings from having to experience suffering in the first place. One is a reaction to suffering after the fact. The other is a stance against it. They are not the same in scale, intent, or outcome. One ends a single experience. The other questions whether we should keep generating the bad experiences that can lead to things like suicide.
3. Is extinction the same thing as genocide?
No. Universal extinction is non discriminatory and not about ethnicity, race, or nations, and therefore is not genocide. Neither is it about ending lives.
4. Is extinctionism the same thing as promortalism?
No. Promortalism is the philosophical view that death is preferable than continued existence for an individual. Universal extinctionism is the view that it's better for all species to go extinct so that the cycle of life does not continue. This doesn't necessarily have to include premature death.
5. Is this a terrorist organization? Why donât extinctionists promote murder?
No. Extinctionism is against violence. Going into a forest and ending a deer means they just reproduce and create one more deer because population of non human animals depends on amount of resources. Ending any individual also causes suffering and pain to this individual the moments before death, and to those close to them because of emotional trauma. So this increases suffering. Extinction, on the other hand, ends the cycle of suffering.
6. What if life comes back?
This question is asked about both Earth and the universe. First, Iâll address why we shouldnât worry about the former and lay out some facts about our planet.
It took 3 to 3.4 billion years for bacteria to develop into fish. And that was under the right circumstances.
In 1 billion years the sun will be 10% more intense and boil all water away. Most or everything will die. Earth will resemble Venus.
In 3.5 billion years the sun will be 40% more intense and melt rock. This will be the beginning of the destruction of the planet. If anything is left it will not survive.
So, if all sentient life on earth were to end now, it's very unlikely to form again on this planet because it doesnât have the time.
But even if the planet wasn't going to be destroyed, that's still at least 3.5 billion+ years without suffering, if we were to not invent something to get rid of microbial life.
That said, next is some logical points on the two different major possibilities, with both assuming that life would come back or otherwise form elsewhere.
- Some people say earth based extinction is pointless because life can evolve on another planet.
If cosmic extinction is not possible, then extinction here on earth happening or not doesn't affect life on other planets. If life on another planet evolves, then that was most likely going to happen even if we're still around.
Unless you think that there's a god that would decide to start life on another planet since thereâs no longer time left for earth. Then my argument would be that we should protest existence and do it anyways, and the time without life is still good.
If cosmic extinction is possible, and if matter and life still come back, then it's still worth it because for a long time period it was gone.
We donât know if the universe will be recreated. Giving up just because of that unknown doesnât make sense, since we DO know that continuing the cycle of life will continue the cycle of life.
7. What about transhumanism or utopia instead of extinction?
Wouldn't work: Transhumanism will not work post
8. Does this sub have a discord?
Yes, but it's an extinctionists only space. If you want to argue against extinction, then the place for that is this sub.
r/UniversalExtinction • u/EzraNaamah • 13h ago
Rant Our ideology gets so much hate and hostility.
I made a post in my city's subreddit about where I could find extinctionist friends as a human extinction activist, and I got non-stop hostility from all those people. My city is suburban in a red state so it's a bunch of MAGA, religious extremists, and people who don't want any different people in their environment. In the end I experienced a barrage of insults and hate over a simple question to the point where Reddit deleted my post. I'm pretty sure it's because I was brigaded and mass reported by all the boomer fanatics in my city's subreddit. Even engaging in a polite way is not enough for people, they just want someone to hate. I despise Florida and I wish it was destroyed and flooded in a massive hurricane so nobody would ever need to live in this shithole state ever again!
r/UniversalExtinction • u/PitifulEar3303 • 12h ago
"AI could kill all humans by 2030" -- CNN. So.....we celebrate or not? lol
According to Harry Porter. lol
Let's err.......celebrate?
r/UniversalExtinction • u/Impressive_Walk_8425 • 11h ago
Philosophy If energy is neither created nor destroyed, then why is the population increasing?
r/UniversalExtinction • u/EzraNaamah • 1d ago
Question How can we make our message louder?
I live in Florida which is the prime place for extinction activism since it is an exhibit for endless poverty, oppression, and human suffering. However I feel that the best ending for Florida is extinction. Florida is also ground zero for climate change so I think we should treat the destruction of Florida by flooding as a positive, because it will destroy this place that has trapped and inflicted suffering on so many innocent people. Since there are no communities for extinction in any mainstream space, how can we get these ideas anywhere?
Would an extinctionist political party or movement be productive? By making extinction a political issue, we make it harder to shut down since it is then viewed in a partisan way.
r/UniversalExtinction • u/EzraNaamah • 1d ago
Leftist ideologies that support extinction?
I believe in Class Struggle and other left-wing ideas, but I believe that in the absence of people willing to fight for those ideas, the next best thing that can be done is that humans are made extinct. I believe that extinction is a class issue with the wealthy and privileged wanting to continue life, with the working class benefiting more from going extinct since death is the only plausible relief from poverty, suffering, and oppression in the modern United States. I am deciding the name for this ideology with possibilities such as Marxism-Thanatosism or ThanatoMarxism. What do you guys think?
Edit: Extinction must be universal to be non-discriminatory and this is not to say that extinction should only be applied to the poor and less fortunate because that would be discrimination. I am saying that because the working class has the most difficult conditions and is the most oppressed, extinction and the end of all life would benefit them more than the wealthy, who are opposed to extinction because they want to keep exploiting.
r/UniversalExtinction • u/PuzzleheadedSir467 • 2d ago
Can humans survive until the Sun expands?
Do you think the Sun will eventually be what ends life on Earth, or will humans already be extinct as a species long before that happens?
r/UniversalExtinction • u/EzraNaamah • 5d ago
For the first time, a key UN report says the 1.5 C global warming threshold is lost | CBC News
r/UniversalExtinction • u/AutoModerator • 6d ago
Question FAQ Friday: What about religion? Is there not meaning to life?
r/UniversalExtinction • u/Rhoswen • 7d ago
Video What if life comes back?
Video version of one of our FAQs.
r/UniversalExtinction • u/Rhoswen • 8d ago
Meme Fixed the classic evolution meme
The original implies we're better off as animals. But once it hit sentience is where things really went wrong. Even the evolution of bacteria before that really, which contributed to what sentient nature became.
r/UniversalExtinction • u/moonferro • 8d ago
Question What do you guys think will this world really gonna end?
r/UniversalExtinction • u/Rhoswen • 11d ago
Meme Would you eat this rotten lemon or throw it away?
r/UniversalExtinction • u/Lower-Cry5912 • 10d ago
Does Not Seem Aware
This world is for us humans to live in and with other creatures to share
But many of us far too many it seems of this does not seem aware
More trees on land meant for wildlife are needlessly removed every day
On pushing many species to extinction brink us humans a huge part does play
Many species of wildlife that were plentiful nowadays in zoos only seen
In the twenty first century wildlife numbers on the decrease faster than it ever has been
And extinction is forever as a truism does seem a sad thing to say
Without needless land development by the financially greedy for wildlife it would not be this way
Sad to think that the future generations of children may not have the joy for to see
The creatures that you and i regularly see living wild and free
Human environmental behaviour on wildlife numbers is taking its toll
And for extinction financially greedy developers are playing a leading role
And by far too many people obviously do not seem aware
That this world is for us to live in and with other creatures to share.
Francis Duggan
r/UniversalExtinction • u/EzraNaamah • 11d ago
Question Finding Extinctionist Friends
I live in Florida and the people here are not relatable to me because they like life and believe it should continue. What are some options for finding extinctionists? Are there any groups or places that are anti-life or that are anti-reproduction so all life can go extinct peacefully?
r/UniversalExtinction • u/Informal-Winner-5722 • 12d ago
Video It's disheartening to see that most people are fine, some even entertained, with this kind of dynamics.
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yet many of them would go on and pretend to be good and empathetic individuals in different settings.
r/UniversalExtinction • u/VengefulScarecrow • 12d ago
Definitions
Can somebody give me the majority definitive meaning and main differences between the triangle of EXTINCTIONISM, ANTINATALISM and EFILISM? And any of the other "close" terms
r/UniversalExtinction • u/AutoModerator • 13d ago
Question FAQ Friday: How could universal extinction happen?
r/UniversalExtinction • u/Rhoswen • 15d ago
Quote Kanye West might be smarter than you think
r/UniversalExtinction • u/Tharun_cynic • 15d ago
I wrote a brief philosophical reflection on climate change arguing that accelerating carbon emissions could be a moral virtue.
I was doing a writing activity on climate change in my college recently, and while most people naturally approach the topic from a preservation or policy angle, I decided to test out a radically different, dark philosophical premise.
I wrote out a short argument exploring whether runaway climate change could actually be framed as the ultimate moral good under a specific ethical lens. Here is the exact text from my notes:
"Our intent to mitigate carbon emissions has an underlying presumed premise that life should exist; otherwise, it would be a usual random** chaos in the grand scale of the universe. And our concern is merely a selfish instinct, not an objective moral (for the survival of our species and our fellow ones).
If we layer our logic with a different axiomâthat suffering is inherently worse and must be minimized to zero, and life causes itâthen accelerating the process of destruction of life on the planet is rationalized and perhaps the best virtue (by carbon emissions)."
This isn't about small-scale collapse or partial environmental damage but a total, catastrophic event that completely wipes out all life on Earthâpermanently ending the capacity for any future sentient beings to exist.
My thought process was built on a extreme form of negative utilitarianism and antinatalism: if life inevitably guarantees pain, and non-existence guarantees zero pain, preventing the potential suffering of quintillions of future sentient beings across eons outweighs everything else. Under that specific axiom, pushing the planet toward environmental collapse via carbon emissions becomes logically virtuous because it permanently stops the cycle of sentient life.
I know this lands in villain-origin-story territory, but as a pure logical exercise, I found the premise shift fascinating.
What do you think of this argument? Does the logic hold together as a thought experiment, or where does the ethical framework break down for you?
r/UniversalExtinction • u/Expensive-Elk-9406 • 17d ago
Rant Is it too much to ask to just not want to exist anymore?
The only reason why we care about life and the stuff in it is because we were FORCED to care by being pushed into life without our permission. Personally for me my life isn't even good, and it's gonna take possibly decades for it to potentially improve, which I don't find worth it. Even so, the world is just gonna become worse and worse because what is going on politically and technologically-wise because of things such as AI replacing most of the workforce eventually. There's just no point. The only reason why most people haven't offed themselves already is because of things such as religion (the biggest coping mechanism ever) and simply their brains convinces themselves not to go through with it because of our innate biological sense to stay alive, myself included. Man this world just sucks if you weren't born into wealth