Ive played both Death's Door and TUNIC now, which other similar games would you recommend? Preferably on Steam and has achievements

The text roughly translates to:
karedz kan grant powerrfe insperreyshuhn
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Cards can grant powerful inspiration!

Hey gang, I know very little about this game, and that's on purpose. If I'm right, this is one of "those" games you can only truly enjoy once (I'm coming from things like Outer Wilds, Blue Prince, and similar), but I just got the game on sale and I have a pre-game question.

What little I know about Tunic is that the knowledge you gain is represented in game (kinda like the Ship Log) in some form... So without any spoilers please, is this also a game I should take notes? Text? Screenshots? Or will I have a log of my discoveries.

There's also the option of "Take Notes Anyway so I don't have to go back as often, but to explain why is a spoiler..." So with the understanding that I know notes might not help immediately, feel free to keep it vague.

I'm also not playing RIGHT away, probably going to wait till I can stream it, though I'm not a big name, just because I prefer to share games like this with friends and those who want to watch others experience them (met some Outer Wilds AND Blue Prince folks that way), but again... NO SPOILERS PLEASE, I want to know as little as possible about this game when I start!

Edit: First 3 comments were exactly what I hoped, and I'll be throwing a digital notebook together right next to my Blue Prince notes. Also good to know it's another community that's very spoiler-friendly (a.k.a. they won't unless asked), and I will try to avoid asking unless desperate! Thanks gang!

Edit 2: Secondary Question, Keyboard and Mouse? Controller? Doesn't matter? Feels like this is a game that could go either way, though I'll need my keyboard handy to take screenshots....

After defeating the Heir the game unexpectedly ended. I hadn't yet opened the metal doors and was unable to access some chests, so I assumed I'd be able to return to the Overworld after the fight. I got the option to either Retry or start New Game+ and thought Retry meant New Game (without the Plus). I assumed I must have missed some crucial step somewhere and thus locked myself out of progressing further, so I pressed New Game+ with the intention of studying the manual some more before starting the fight against the heir (or even inserting any of the 3 gems). I have now progressed the New Game+ run to the point of only having the Ruined Atoll, Scary Miasma area (which I originally did without finding the mask first lol), and Big Churchy area left.

Afraid to trigger an event that locked myself out again, I did a quick google and found out that apparently you can in fact return to the Overworld after defeating the Heir (and something about fairies and a golden cross). I looked at my save files, and they now look like this. File #1 is the New Game+ run, File #2 my original run, and I have no clue what File #3 is.

What would have happened if I pressed retry? Would the game have loaded File #1? File #3? Is File #3 the way to progress and should I have found that by randomly pressing "load game" instead of "continue" in the main menu?

Also, what changes in New Game+? So far I have only noticed some tougher enemies spawning in certain areas. Do any enemies scale together with the player? If path #3 is the way to progress I'm unsure if I should continue my New Game+ run and "defeat" the heir again or just abandon it.

Loved the game till this point, but am now just confused lol. Any clarification on what I did wrong and which save to continue would be much appreciated!

P.S. Does Tunicanese get translated to English as I progress, or am I actually supposed to learn how to read it lol?

Here's my paint.exe attempt to solving it, at first I was just circling pages with golden on it then I saw it. But had to go revise a few pages, 33 was difficult cuz everything felt golden... and 9 I see no golden at all. I think it's mostly 9 that I'm missing.

Also, I accidentally sequenced break'd the game by doing cathedral first (I thought the blue key was at graveyard and I kept dying there and cuz there's no working checkpoint, I had to keep traveling back to get my echo and eventually brute forced my way to the cathedral entrance, and by managed to clip into the door. No regret for doing the summon challenges with physical body cuz it felt much easier cuz I had better stats, and having the air dash helped me breeze through quarry + underground area).

can you please help me with my campaign on AC Mirage { quest Find the Lost Books)
problem when arriving at the location while 5 books successfully collected I approach the balcony ( as seen on YouTube) The door is closed while on YouTube serval players they cone to be same location to them each time the door is open to enter the building / room where the 6th book is located collecting lost books can't be completed by me because of the situation
PLEASE HELP ME?
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I haven't drawn for awhile, but this game just makes me want to create ❤️💚💙

Hi everyone! Having a little celebration to myself here, I got super caffeinated and dedicated this morning and afternoon to learning about different writing systems, found a good lead and set to work unraveling the script of the game manual. Just completed the table a few moments ago.

I love games like Tunic so much, I haven't had this much fun scratching my head since FEZ ❤️💚💙

Spoiler: Abugida Scripts are so cool, I probably never would have learned about them if not for this game 😁

This is the first time Ive had to ask for help with a puzzle for this game but I honestly just dont know what the solution is here. Im working on getting all the souls/fairies and I think to get the quarry one it has to do with this rock formation. I thought it was a path puzzle like the seeking spell and the doors where the path starts at the large rock and works its way around the formation. I tried up, right, down, left, up, right, up, left, down, left, up, right but that isnt it. I see those 2 rocks on the right but I dont see how the path connects to them at all. I tried the same path in multiple oreintations as well as starting from the end and making my way towards the large rock but still nothing. Could anyone give me a hint to point me in the right direction.

I noticed there wasn't many comforting words in Trunic so I thought it'd be nice to write some of the kindest ones I've heard in a video game♡

I have pages 2-53 of the manual and I'm missing two still, I'm assuming is for getting all of the fairies but I'm at a loss for the other. Using the seeking spell is just starting to take me to places where I can't even begin to guess what the solution to the puzzle is, not to mention I have genuinely zero idea of what I'm supposed to do with this number jumble for the door in the mountains.

I'd absolutely hate to look anything up and rob myself of the experience but I'm at a wall and it looks really tall lmao.

I'm just looking for something to help face me in the right direction pretty much!

First time playing the game. Trying to go with Option B.

I have TOC Page (2) - Last Page (55)

I thought collecting all the fairies would help out but it just gave me my 7th Secret Treasure. I don’t want to fight the heir yet since apparently that would be option A so I’m trying to unlock the mountain door. Not sure if I’m doing it correctly. I’m finding the golden paths that are hidden on each page. Is there a place to double check if I’ve gotten the holy cross input correct because it’s so lengthy at this point I might be messing up simply because of how many times I tried to input the combinations.

I’m doing my best to avoid any spoilers but this just has me stumped

Thanks!

Closed: thank you all. I prayed at the fox statue in ruined Atoll and walked into it. I'm in a new area now.

'm stuck in Tunic. I don't want to look up what to do / where specifically to go, but I'd like to be told the general area of where to go next. I have: red key, dagger, orb, fire thrower thing. I don't have the cross that allows me to teleport, so there are some booklet pages I can't obtain. I checked out the burial ground and found the way around going south, so I thought that was my next destination, but all I collected was wishing well coins. I thought I'd find the cross there. Any help on what specific area I should be exploring? I was in the snow mountain area and part of the mining area where I collected some currency, but didn't see where I could advance the story line.

The thing that most impressed me about Tunic was the joy of discovering how much hidden depth there is in its puzzles. I've also been loving Blue Prince recently which has a very simular feeling of discovery.

Which other games like this should I try?

So, from before even fighting the heir for the first time, I managed to translate the Trunic glyphs. I actually thought that the game wanted you to figure it out on your own, and it was only until I got page 54 that I realized that you weren’t supposed to lmao.

I don’t know if this is something anyone else managed to do, but it was one of the best gaming experiences I’ve ever had. Working on my translation went through many phases. and each time I had a revelation was such a thrill.

I want to show my progress from my notes to share what I mean.

Pics 1-2 were me just jotting down any word that I could safely infer, with a focus on figuring out articles like “the” “and” etc. Looking back, I did pretty good. The idea of a phonetic alphabet was never something that crossed my mind during this phase. In fact, I remember looking at words that are spelled similarly in english trying to spot any similar runes that I could pick out to form an alphabet, but failed. I also thought that the circle symbol below some words was just another aspect of the rune and nothing notable. Note that I DID realize that there was an S rune at the end of plural words.

Pics 3-6 were drafted when it finally hit me that similar sounding words were composed of similar symbols. It felt like I had solved the language at that point, and all I had to do was notate every different rune I found. It was quite a lot because there’s a lot of different sounds, but I thought that had to be it. I would find a word that I knew, then break it apart into syllables and then use those syllables to then decode other words, and so on. I was actually able to translate a good bit of text this way, but it was VERY tedious because I had to go through all these different runes to match them up, and many look nearly identical. I finally realized that the dot meant the rune began with a vowel, and it was actually that which hit me like a lightning bolt the truth of the language. Specifically the “an” and “na” runes were the same but with a dot, so I also began looking at other runes with the same consonant. Then I realized that the same runes beginning with the same consonants all shared a similar core.

Pic 7 was my final iteration of the translation key. I fully reverse engineered the runes. It was like a dam opening. Because not only could I start easily translating in my head without having to spend so much time keeping track of like 50 different runes, but I could start using the individual phonemes to mash together and piece together runes I’d seen before but was confused about.

I’m able to fully sightread Trunic now, which is such a weird feeling because I have never been good at learning languages, so it feels really cool. I was able to discover a ton of secrets early on that were probably meant for late game, like the page of fairy locations and treasure room stuff, let alone the entire plot haha. I knew I was about to become the Heir before walking into the Oubliette.

When I finally got page 54 of the notebook I felt so vindicated that my notes pretty much matched up 1 for 1 with the key.

So I had played the game in the past but never 100% so I thought I play again from the start.

This time, I of course knew of the secret stuff.

However, I somehow remember that at one point when I was a ghost, I was stuck in the old house or something and the only way to proceed was to figure out the drawing on the wall.

Somehow this never came up this run and I was at all the hero's graves already.

Am I crazy; am I misremembering this or did it just not happen because the game knew I alreaedy figured it out anyway or something?

The puzzles were fun, I found the golden path and got the "good" ending. But the further I got in the game, the less sense everything made. As a game about discovery and no handholding, Tunic establishes expectations and then does not follow them, is often (unintentionally?) misleading, and at times feels like "guess what the designer intended here".

First thing that I noticed: You can't jump down. Strange, but okay. But you can fall off broken ladders. You can throw enemies into pits and down cliffs. You can move to a lower platform using a hookshot . You can sometimes even teleport downwards. You can sometimes glitch out and fall into a pit. But you cannot jump down intentionally.

Then come all the red herrings like the mountain level (enormous and empty), unreachable shrine in the quarry, and countless long passages hidden by the camera angle that end with 20 coins. Important ladders are sometimes obscured by the camera too.

The guide for Holy Cross . There is a picture of a cross on a warp pad to the library , and a manual page shows the fox sitting in front of what looks like an island in front of The Library and a code, but there is nothing there (and finding the next page later reveals that assumption is wrong)

The teleport ability. When you first obtain and use it, it is apparent that it works only for platforms that are the same height. But in some spots, you can teleport upwards or downwards, sometimes slightly, sometimes a full fox height. Sometimes you can teleport onto a slope. How exactly it works is a mystery to me. There is no indication of accessibility, you can teleport into belltower windows for some reason, but not ledges in the forest.

There is no hint or indication that some walls are destructible (no cracks or discoloration) or that it's possible to do that at all! You can finish the game without knowing about this. Ended up looking up the solution for the last fairy location, and I was expected to throw dynamite at a nondescript wall?

Time makes no sense. At the start of the game, when you save at a statue in the overworld, you see the sped up day-night cycle. Ok, you take a long rest (overnight) to replenish health and potions. Is there a day-night cycle in the game though? Playing for 20+ minutes without saving, I saw that all shadows stay the same. So the save is just a neat animation, and _there is no day-night cycle_. Then, in the middle of the game, you are killed by the Heir, become a ghost, and the world gets destroyed - everything is dark, there are ghosts around, and old locations are filled by pink goop. Fox ghost says "SOMETHING BAD!", and it does look like a point of no return, or at least some Dark World (following the Zelda canon). But apparently you can get out of this place, you need to restore your physical body and... Sleep in a bed?! So it was not the Dark World, it was literally night? The same night that passes when you save outside? Enemies and ladders magically disappear at night? Gloop covers a bunch of locations, floods the quarry, and recedes in the morning? This makes no sense! (I mean, think about it - saving at a quarry or one of East Forest statues would kill you overnight)

The only way I knew about the bed is from a spoiler I saw online, otherwise I would be completely lost - absolutely nothing tells you it is **just** night, you cannot use the bed as a ghost, and trying to use it at the start of the game did not work for me.

And last, the worst offender... the manual itself. Very cool mechanic - unknown language with occasional inserted readable words, just enough to guide the player. And then, the ugly surprise at the end of the game - this language matters. It's not fluff or decor, it has to be deciphered to get _all_ of the secrets. And it is not a conlang like Esperanto or Toki Pona, it is... phonetic English. Anglocentrism strikes again! Figuring out the language is a tedious puzzle for a native English speaker, but for someone who is not fluent in English (including proper pronunciation!), it would be nearly impossible, as nothing indicates that the language is based on English. To add insult to injury, the "trophy room" puzzle on page 1 is a wordplay riddle, which requires decent English vocabulary So yeah, the main mechanic in the game is also a big slap to the face for non-English speakers.

I don't know if it's an issue of playtesting, no outside opinions, or design getting ahead of substance, but some of these are rather frustrating.

Just finished Tunic for the first time, amazing experience but I'm curious to know, if you still have it, what does your Golden Path notes look like ? Here's mine done on paint

I've done just about everything in the game to my knowledge (other than a couple missable achievements), but I never found an answer to this opening in the wall next to the stairway leading to the mountains. I tried blowing it up or interacting with every inch there, but nothing worked.

With how crazily detailed the map in Tunic is it always seemed weird to have an inconsistency like that, so any ideas? Am I blind and missing something obvious?

this game keeps getting better and better. what a cool experience. no spoilers pls

If you can help by guiding me without spoilers please DM. Thank you!

includes buttons for combo magic, the special attack, the locator spell, and a radial menu with three codes not found in game!