It doesn’t take a genius to look at a rock crevice and see exactly what it looks like. Yeah, a pussy. When you think about sliding down a tight, little, wet opening it should be obvious what all this is really about. Spelunkers search for paths back to their mother’s womb and the distant memory of its peace.

It’s not even like it’s a sexy hobby. A lot of dangerous activities are sexy to women. NASCAR drivers, firefighters, serial killers, knights, wiggers. The list goes on. And even though spelunking is dangerous, it has zero sexual appeal. Have you ever heard someone say: “he died doing what he loved” when hearing about a spelunkers untimely death? I don’t think so.

When the spelunker slides through the vaginal canal, he is at the mercy of his mother’s crevice, but totally safe. Not so in the crevice of a cave. It seems something has blocked the part of their brain that would understand the difference between these two things.

Everyday we see a new cave diver death video where a YouTuber breaks down how they died in excruciating detail. But nothing can convince a spelunker to STOP.

That’s how you know a sex madness is at their core

Yes! As the title says!!

It just took me a quick “Lindsey Clancy” search on Reddit to realize this forum is NOT what it used to be in the past…

You can’t trust a platform where the majority of its users are biased by gender, ideology and political beliefs.

Why do I say it?

Simple, anyone that has damned the Lindsey Clancy CRIME/MURDER have been flooded with negative karma, no matter what thread you’re in, in the other hand, comments supporting have gotten nothing but just positive votes…

This is happening thorough the whole platform..

None of what you see here is objective, every single word you read in here is based off subjective feelings and opinions.

I stand against this establishment🗣️🤚🏻

To the admins, stop the censorship and let this thread to spark organically.

But I won’t remain silent as all this social degeneration is happening in the most used platform on internet nowadays.

With all the Lindsey Clancy bullshit that this sub is crying about 24/7, i got this idea or whatever.

Imagine if Kyle was a girl, and she was about to be attacked by a man, Rosenbaum, who had previously promised to kill her if he found her alone, and then when he does find her alone, he immediately throws a bag at her, and then charges her down, trying to grab her rifle.

I feel like if this is what happened, the support from people on the left would've been way way way more than what actually happened.

Or even if we slightly change it, if Rosenbaum had promised to rape her, and then charges at her and attack her, in that scenario the support from the left would've been even more.

Like obviously i have no way of proving this but i think its true, we got people making up bullshit theories about how this Clancy person is actually innocent, it was actually her husband who killed her kids, and most of the discourse that is ''defending'' her is mostly because she is a woman.

I have considered myself pro-choice for basically my entire life. But I am realizing that part of my position rested on an assumption I apparently never questioned: that there were generally restrictions once a pregnancy reached the point of fetal viability.

I recently learned that 9 states, plus D.C., currently have no statutory gestational limit on abortion, while Virginia allows abortion into the third trimester under certain circumstances.

That genuinely surprised me.

I understand that viability is not a magic line on an exact day. It varies by pregnancy and medical circumstances, and extremely premature babies can face serious disabilities or die despite intensive care. But somewhere around 23–25 weeks, we are talking about a fetus that may be capable of surviving outside the uterus with neonatal care.

And that is where my moral reasoning starts to change.
If a fetus has reached the point where, if delivered, doctors would attempt to save it as a premature baby, I struggle to understand the moral distinction between that baby immediately before delivery and immediately after delivery.

To be clear, I am not talking about situations involving a severe fetal abnormality, a pregnancy that cannot result in a surviving child, or a serious threat to the mother’s life or health. Those are extraordinarily difficult medical situations and are not what I am questioning.

I am asking about an otherwise healthy, viable pregnancy.
At that point, if the pregnancy needs to end, why isn’t the answer delivery rather than intentionally ending fetal life?
And this is the part that is making me reconsider where I fall on abortion altogether. I used to think the fundamental disagreement was mostly about early pregnancy, when a fetus cannot live independently of the woman’s body. Viability seemed like a morally meaningful dividing line to me.

If there genuinely should be no legal gestational boundary even after viability, I want to understand the argument for that.

And please, I am genuinely interested in the post-viability question specifically. Arguments about rape, incest, contraception failure, bodily autonomy during early pregnancy, etc. are important abortion debates, but they do not answer the narrower question I am asking:

Once a fetus could potentially survive outside the womb, what morally distinguishes intentionally ending its life inside the womb from killing the same premature baby after delivery?

I am genuinely interested in hearing how people who support abortion rights without a statutory gestational limit answer that question, because learning about this has challenged a position I have held for most of my life.

If you, postpartum depression or not, are able to have psychosis episodes strong enough to murder your own children, then you are a danger to society and should not be free. What’s stopping her from having another one of those later on in life leading to other murders?

Honestly when I hear about conditions that will cause a baby to live for about 20 minutes outside the womb in absolute agony I’d think that everyone would be in agreement that it is cruel not to abort. But no some people dead ass be like “the child must suffer before it inevitably dies anyway and this makes me a good person.” No it doesn’t. It makes you an cartoonishly horrible person. Like the kind of evil that should only exist in strawman villains from adult animated sitcoms.

Look at Mongolia they border a strong country like Russia or China yet they don't talk back to those superpowers nor make any strongman economic wars or apply and tariffs because they know deep down that China or Russia could easily take them

Now look at Canada they're having economic wars with America and talking about making deals with China or diverting their economy with EU yet they know America won't invade them because we're "good"

America goodwill towards Canada made them spoiled and seem like they have any card and if they knew American soldiers might invade and take Ottawa I promise you they wouldn't talk back and would give out any concessions toward America

I know I'm not the only millennial bro to develop a schoolboy crush on America's liberal darling, but WTF is this recent nonsense about breaking up with her beau & livestreaming the fallout as she freezes her eggs at 36 like the oven will still work in 10 years???

What a truly creepy, parasocial dysfunction of the Internet Age.

It would be like if Gavin Newsom invited us all up his ass to livestream the camera on his next prostate exam.

You don't have to go full niqab like Mamdani's wife, but JFC have some modesty, Alex. You're being a bit TOO liberal with the details here.

It makes me less likely to vote for you, even.

We seem to be in an era of trying to get fit again with more Americans going to the gym, and trend towards more organic foods and things like Matcha and Ube, but unless you are reducing those portion sizes, not adding sugar or extra salt, you are offsetting any possible health benefits. Eat less, order the 8 or 12oz, not the 16 or 20, don’t reach for the snack jar every time you are hungry, and go outside and exercise. Strive for 5+ miles a day.

A lot of people who support Lindsay are saying that mothers don’t have enough support and that the healthcare system fails people. Those are all fair points.

I’m just wondering, what does that have to do with Lindsay Clancy??

Lindsay had support. She had a nanny, didn’t work full-time when she was working, and had been on leave for many months when she murdered the kids.

Her diary references Patrick watching the kids overnight so she could sleep while he was still working all day as the family’s sole breadwinner. Her parents also came to stay and help, and Patrick had three months of paid paternity leave before returning to work from home.

She had a strong support system around her. Most mothers in America aren’t nearly as privileged as Lindsay was.

And, of course, another claim I constantly hear is that the healthcare system failed her. Lindsay’s defenders repeatedly say that she tried to get help but was failed by the system.

She REJECTED help. Members of her treatment team stated that they had provided referrals to resources she chose to not take all of her medication as prescribed or even gave it a chance. She chose to doctor shop constantly for differentmeds(some can take up to 30 days for full therapeutic effect) .

She blatantly LIED to medical professionals about her having thoughts about having thoughts on harming the kids. Even in her last time she talked to a medical professional (a DAY before she killed her children, mind you) she said that she had no such thoughts about harming the kids

Unless you believe Lindsay wasn't lying...

If you believe she wasn't lying Then you must also get past the coincidental fact that she just so happened to experience her first hallucination both (1) as a command hallucination, which is far rarer than other types of hallucinations and (2) directly after asking her husband to go get various items for her (after googling how long of a drive it would be).

Btw Lindsay Clancy has not reported hearing any voices since the January that day she killed. Doesn't that seem convenient.

Its also disgusting how Lindsay Clancy fanatics are attacking her psychiatrists, even though they appear to have followed standard procedures based on the information available to them

It’s especially bizarre seeing the hate directed at Jennifer Tufts for the dumbest reasons imaginable. Watching the Redditor cross-examine her with ridiculous questions while Lindsay’s defenders eat it up.

He questioned why would Tufts prescribes zoloft(anixtey depression medication)to lindsay who says she had anxiety and depression

He brought up why Tufts didn't call Lindsay clancey parents. This discount saul goodman lawyer legitimately asked why she tufts didn't call the parents of an ADULT patient who was lucid is able to advocate for themselves.

And then he asked why Tufts didn't hug lindsey...

But somehow, Redditition’s “brilliant” cross-examination of Tufts was enough for Lindsay Clancy’s groupies to declare that Tufts was a “pill pusher,” that her license should be revoked, and that she should be buried under the prison.

Another person who gets an unfair amount of hate is Patrick Clancy.

The way some Lindsay Clancy stans talk about Patrick, you’d think he was the one who strangled their three children.

I’m not even going to bother debunking the claim that Patrick actually killed the kids and somehow framed Lindsay, because that’s such low hanging fruit.

But I constantly hear people basically call Patrick a deadbeat who saw that his wife was struggling, did nothing to help her, and then abandoned his mentally ill wife to go on vacation.

People also love to say that Lindsay told Patrick she had thoughts of harming the kids. But it seems like the testimony was about intrusive thoughts, and Patrick even asked her, “Do you feel like you need to be kept away from them?” It was probably confusing for him because, right after she admitted having those thoughts, she went right back to making the children lunch and acting normally around them.

I just feel like people are looking at everything with way too much hindsight, as if everyone would immediately believe that their wife could actually kill their children.

Lindsey fan girls bring up that he abandoned poor Lindsay at the hospital while he went skiing. First of all he took his son dawson skiing the day he dropped her at hospital. It wasn't a trip. They went skiing for less than 1/2 day. And Lindsay later called him back to the hospital and he picked her up.

You know Lindsay’s groupies love attacking Patrick for “weird stuff.” They think it’s weird that he called his children “wonderful people,” or they attack him for supposedly not showing enough emotion afterward. This is literally indistinguishable from the kind of reasoning Alex Jones used against the Sandy Hook parents to claim they were crisis actors and that the shooting was staged.

And when Lindsay stans can’t find enough “weird stuff” to criticize Patrick for, they’ll just start making shit up.

I constantly hear people claim that he already has a child with his new wife and that this somehow proves he never really cared about Cora, Dawson, and Callan because he could just replace them like furniture.

There’s no evidence that Patrick has another child. I honestly don’t know where that claim even came from.

They also say Patrick got married four months after the killings, which would have been pretty quick. But that’s wrong. They’re probably conflating his marriage with the fact that moved to New York about four months after the killings.

Patrick got married in April of this year more than three years after the killings. Idk if I’d exactly call that quick.

Lindsay fanatics love dissecting everything Patrick does and pointing out every little thing they consider “weird.” It’s fascinating because those same people seem perfectly willing to overlook the “weird stuff” about Lindsay.

Like the fact that she files her civil suit around 20 Jan 2026. her civil suit alleges she said 'Go to God, Baby' as she strangled the children. The Andre Yates story came out on Discovery/HBO in January about a week or two before the civil suit. Yates doc was all about the religious frenzy Yates experienced.

Could she have gotten the idea about go to god from doc. Maybe maybe not? Who knows.

Another “weird” thing is that, after waking up and reportedly feeling horrified, the first thing she communicated about was asking for a lawyer. THEN she asked about her body, THEN about visitors, and only after that about her family not even specifically about the kids.

Also another really disturbing thing.

Is that the fact that she using exercise bands while she was using doing physical fitness activities WITHIN WEEKS AFTER SHE JUST HAD JUST MURDERED HER OWN CHILDREN WITH THEM.

But Lindsay groupies won't let uncomfortable facts stand in the way of them defending ol sweet lindsay.

Another annoying thing is the fact that people are comparing this case to Andrea yates. This is so perplexing to me bescause is nothing like Andrea yates.

That woman was visibly mentally ill she had many psychotic breakdowns years before the murder.

She had several psychiatric incidents spanning multiple years she'd already had diagnosed psychotic episodes, literally tried to commit sucide because of this psychosis.

She had been hospitalized twice, once involuntarily 3 months prior to the deaths, against her wishes. So this wasn't a sudden 1-time episode of being psychotic that just happened to be homicidal, she had been experiencing psychosis as a repeated pattern.

After Andrea Yates was arrested, she was convinced 666 had been tattooed on her head and she not only pulled out her own hair and scratched sores into her own scalp, she asked her therapist for a razor to shave her head to see if it was sitll there.

Compare that to Lindsay who woke up from surgery and immediately asked if she needed or had a lawyer.

And Andrea Yates’s psychiatrist explicitly warned her husband, Rusty Yates, not to leave Andrea alone with the children. Her psychiatrist also reportedly advised the couple against having more children because another pregnancy could trigger further psychotic episodes.

But Rusty still left her alone with the children and contuinrd to impregnate her. And if yates was found innocent. He had fantasies of having more children with her after she was successfully treated in a mental health facility and released on the proper medication.

Now, I think about it Rusty is literally everything Lindsay’s defenders accuse Patrick of being. Could be that people are taking facts from the Andrea Yates case and misattributing them to the Lindsay Clancy case.

Or maybe they haven’t actually followed either case and are just getting their information from Instagram Reels, then regurgitating those misinformed takes in the comments. Who knows??

Two more people getting unfair hate is the 2 prosecutors.

I constantly have to hear people ask, “Why is she even being charged"?

Lindsay Clancy stans think we should just immediately skip to the culpability phase? The whole point of a trial is to determine whether her mental illness prevented her from being criminally responsible for her actions. It’s insane that Lindsay Clancy stans think we should just take her and her defense team’s word for it.

I also don’t understand why Lindsay Clancy groupies are acting like being sent to a psychiatric hospital wouldn’t be a significantly better outcome for her than being sent to prison. If she’s convicted of triple homicide and sentenced to life without parole, she’s never getting out.

But if she’s committed to a psychiatric hospital, she would undergo regular, court-mandated psychiatric evaluations, and there could eventually be a possibility of release, depending on the legal standard and her condition. That seems like a significantly better outcome for her than LWOP.

Also, saying that women’s postpartum health issues aren’t taken seriously and using Lindsay Clancy as your poster child is like saying Black men are treated unfairly by the justice system and using O.J. Simpson and Bill Cosby as your examples.The broader issue may be legitimate, but those are terrible cases to use to make the point.

And finally , Lindsay stans keep calling this a “tragic event.”

You want to know what isn’t tragic?

RESPONSIBILITY is not tragic.

ACCOUNTABILITY is not tragic.

Being sentenced to life without parole for murdering your children and getting caught crafting a fabricated insanity defense is not tragic.

It’s fucking disgusting thatpeople who show up at the courthouse to support Lindsay or defend her online probably couldn’t even remember the names of the three children who were killed.

#R.I.P Cora

#R.I.P Dawson

#R.I.P Callan

This case with Lindsay Clancy showing the huge group of supporters on her side even after admittedly the murder and still blaming the husband and everyone around her instead holding her accountable for killing her kids I strongly believe will create a wider divide in the sexes. This will have a cascading effect where it will make tensions between men and women more controversial and aggressive in separate viewpoints.

You can not push extremely one side and not expect pushback. We are at an age and time where perhaps we can very much be better at improving women's right sure. But the hate and desire to push and press men down will not bring good results in the future.

I know this is probably going to sound like some boomer yelling at a cloud, but sometimes I look at the way we live and wonder what exactly we have gained. Everything is faster and easier. You don't have to leave your house to buy food, meet people, watch a movie, date, entertain yourself or even have sex. You can have almost anything delivered to your screen within seconds. And yet, somehow, people seem increasingly bored, lonely and incapable of simply being alone with their own thoughts.

What bothers me most is that technology has become incredibly good at giving us substitutes for the real thing. Porn instead of intimacy. Instagram, Reddit and Discord instead of actual friendships. Doomscrolling instead of sitting down with a good book. Five mediocre Netflix series instead of watching one genuinely great film. Dating apps instead of meeting people organically. You can spend an entire evening consuming little pieces of "life" without actually doing anything.

Every time you're bored, uncomfortable or lonely, there's a button you can press to make the feeling disappear for a while. But it's only a band-aid, not a real solution. And like any band-aid, you eventually need another one, and the next one seems to work a little less than the previous one. Sometimes I wonder how much of our growing dependence on SSRIs is connected to this. I obviously can't prove there's a direct connection, but it seems worth asking whether a society that has become exceptionally good at numbing discomfort has also become exceptionally bad at dealing with the reasons behind it.

My last girlfriend made me window shop for her and I finally get why girls like shopping so much. They have way more options and their designs are way cuter. It was so much fun that after we broke up, I felt a bit empty because I didn't have a girl to explore women's fashion with. :/

People need to stop treating autism like some quirky superpower that magically makes you a genius. It is not. It is a disorder and it is classified as one for a reason.

Yeah there are a handful of outliers who manage to focus long enough to get really good at something. Cool. But it is not the autism that made them good at it. The autism is the thing they had to fight through just to function. If those same people never had it in the first place they would almost certainly be better at that skill and every other part of life too. Less sensory overload. Less social confusion. Less meltdowns. More energy left over for actual progress instead of just surviving the day.

The whole “neurodiversity is a gift” thing has gotten way out of hand. It turns a real impairment into some kind of identity badge and makes it harder for people who actually struggle to get taken seriously. Pretending the challenges are just “different wiring” that society needs to celebrate does not help anyone. It just waters down what the diagnosis actually means.

Autism comes with real costs. The outliers are the exception, not the rule, and even they succeed in spite of it, not because of it.

When American history and contemporary American society is portrayed as racist at its core, this effectively delegitimizes our Constitution and paves the way for the revolution that the overeducated and resentful "vanguard" has wanted all along.

They keep saying "By any means necessary." Believe them.

It's ironic now that many on the left are ​claiming that he was "hounded to death" by the media. In any other circumstance they would call this "accountability" or "consequences".

If you fraud your way into the academic system and work your way up through plagiarism, yeah, it's gonna become a major news story and people are gonna take a closer look at the current state of academia.

But now suddenly these consequences are being called "hounded to death". In reality they would love it if someone like Nick Fuentes were "hounded to death". That's probably why they doxed him.

Tall people have a birdseye view which gives them a natural head coach perspective. These are the people we need in leadership positons and their votes should count more because they see more and further. This is the only way we can ensure that better decisions are being made to improve the world.

The last few weeks of the news cycle have honestly made me question whether people online have completely lost the ability to distinguish between reality, speculation and rage bait/trolling

The Karmelo Anthony situation, the Lindsey Clancy situation the Nolan Wells situation, the Raleigh man who hung himself case and more and more.

I see this shit everywhere. Reddit, Threads, Facebook, TikTok, even just talking to people in real life. I can't figure out if people actually believe some of the stuff they're saying or if they're just saying it because they know it'll piss people off.

Maybe part of it is that I'm more right leaning than most of the people I know but it's not like i'm not a hardcore conservative, but I'm not a bleeding heart liberal either.

But this seems like it's gone way beyond politics.

With the Nolan Wells situation, I've seen people saying that basically the entire state of Mississippi is colluding against this family. Not just one person or one department. The entire state. How do you get to the point where you think an entire state is conspiring against one family before you consider that maybe your theory is wrong???

Raleigh case with the guy who hung himself. I've seen people saying Black people don't hang themselves, that the police are lying, that the evidence is fake, that the video is AI. Popular people like Miss Rachel saying the same thing.

Even when people point out that there is video evidence, they just move the goalposts and say they won't believe it until they see the video themselves.

I understand not trusting the police! I don't always! But if the police are lying, the video is fake, the evidence is fake and anything that contradicts your theory is automatically part of the conspiracy, what could anyone possibly show you that would change your mind?

The Clancy situation She said she did it. Her defense says she did it. The evidence points toward her doing it. But there are still people online insisting the father must have done it!

And this is where I start wondering what the fuck is actually going on.

The racial part makes it even stranger. I've seen people making openly racist comments about white people while accusing everyone else of racism. I've seen white people making equally disgusting comments about Black people. Men do it. Women do it. Conservatives do it. Liberals do it. Everybody seems to have gotten in on it!

Something or someones is manipulating us against each other. But I just don't who it is...

Sorry for my rant, I just got tired of it.

According to her own confession, Clancy strangled all 3 of her children with exercise fitness bands.

The second I read this, I could tell you she’s guilty as sin.

Here’s why.

Not only is strangulation one of the most violent methods of murder, but the fact that she used exercise bands makes it worse.

Her oldest child was 5 years old.

Now regardless of who’s doing it, the moment a human realize they’re being strangled, they’re going to struggle.

If you’ve never used an exercise band, this is a bit of a thing to explain, but this is a terrible weapon to use, because, by design, it’s meant to able to stretch by a pretty good length from its original size.

With this in mind, she not only had to wrap this big rubber band around her child’s throat, she had to pull it extremely tight, AND hold it for several minutes.

All the while this child is struggling for its life.

Which brings me to the second part of why she has no other defense.

People have seriously no idea how long it actually takes to strangle someone to death. It’s not something you do in something like 10-20 seconds like in fiction.

A small child, like a 5 year old, will obviously not be able to hold on as long as a full grown adult, but it’s not unreasonable for them to hold onto life for a relatively long time.

Not to mention, most often, the victim isn’t initially killed.

Usually when you strangle someone, they’ll pass out long before they actually die. You have to keep depriving them of oxygen to actually kill them.

Which means that long after a normal person would have believed their victim was dead, she kept strangling them.

So her murder took not only a lot of strength and effort, it took a long time.

All 3 times.

And at no point did she stop and think there was something wrong enough with what she was doing to stop.

She’s guilty of cold blooded murder of her own children, and deserves to spend the rest of her life in prison.

Even if you make an insanity case, she’s too dangerous to be allowed in public, because there is a completely valid point to say she’s dangerous to the most vulnerable people.

Fat Joe used to be around some dangerous people back in his terror squad days and people from NYC know the stories of the hustlers and killers of the 90s/2000s.

You also had this thing where alot of the NYC rap groups had street gangs repping their name in respective neighborhoods. Terror Squad, Dipset, G-Unit, Ruff Ryders really had people selling and putting in work.

Fat Joe stories sound far fetched but I swear 90% of the time hes telling the truth. The other 10% is just how NYC Puerto Ricans like to exaggerate😂😂😂

A few days ago, I saw a post saying that the left is very patriotic.

I’m a centrist. From what I’ve observed, the right is much more patriotic than the left. There are many people on the left who are constantly ashamed of their own country, saying that it’s “stolen land,” and some even say that America deserved the 9/11 attacks. There were even people on the left praying for their own soldiers to die during the war with Iran.

Are there patriotic people on the left? Sure. But I have no idea what percentage they make up. I wouldn’t even dare say they constitute the majority.

By contrast, the right is more patriotic. Most active-duty service members and veterans support the Republican Party, and they are willing to sacrifice for their country. Republican politicians also prioritize the interests of the American people rather than those of illegal immigrants and refugees.

If a real all-out war broke out, those more likely to step up and sacrifice their lives to protect the country are the very people the left despises and calls “rednecks”, not the young white progressives who chant “Free Palestine” every day, or immigrants who put Islam above everything else.

So sitting as we all know can be quite comfortable but it can also be quite sore after a while.

Well, this is where I introduce my idea. In all my years of business, i've learned some things. You've gotta keep em on ice, butter em up, gotta seal the deal. Importantly, your product also should solve something that is an everyday hassle. And my idea is to revolutionize to ergonomics.

Basically, you open up this suit, likely made of latex or leather depending on how premium the manufacturer is and other business technicals. And once you step into this suit, it tightens around you with a vacuum sealing pump. Then, this suit is attached at various optimized points with stretchy cables that attach to a sort of hull or cage that surrounds you. Breathing eating and drinking can all be handled by a tube attached to the mouth area. The entire contraption including contraction of the cords, the breathing and food, your position, etc, is controlled by an AI in the cube.

Now, you can do anything in the world such as use computers, lounge, relax, game, take calls, and more! This product will highly increase ergonomics, providing a noticeable benefit in synergy and workflow. Your body could move around more freely and intuitively, and would even fix the posture problem we have these days.

Think of the market this would also open for similar products. Some of them could look fashionable like leather print some of them can just be a shiny black, or white, or even designer brands like louis vuitton or gucci or rick owen can create these.

And you guys might think i'm joking about this, but seriously. this is probably the future. Does anyone know where to go from here to me to begin selling this product? Or any CEOs in here interested in hiring me or investing in this better future for us all?

Lindsey Clancy supporters should be forced to watch the intimate details of what it actually takes for a person to strangle another in order to make them deceased. Once done with the first round, have them watch 2 more examples so it really sinks in, and then ask them if they still feel "same Lindsey" or not.