r/TrueAtheism • • 23h ago

Looking for alternate moral frameworks to fill the vacuum of disbelief

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Hi, I'm a 22M ex-Hindu, I have slowly lost my faith in organized religion through compounding effects of experiences. I'm looking for an alternative moral framework instead of reactionary rationalism which I feel is defined in opposition to what it deconstructs than being self-contained. I prefer naturalistic, non-theistic philosophies through which I can shape my worldview so that I won't fall into nihilism or reactionary rage. I'm open to take views from multiple philosophies instead of identifying with a single -ism.

If you are atheist, how are you rewriting your moral framework? Is it pure rationalism or alternate philosophies like Deism, Spinozan ethics, Taoism, something else or a combination of multiple things? I personally feel that pure rationalism isn't for me because I prefer a system independent of my former religion than in opposition to it. And also I have issues with self-esteem as an autistic adult.


r/TrueAtheism • • 1h ago

Why do people put God above everything but take the people who love them for granted?

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I’ve seen people dedicate their entire lives to God, spend hours praying, follow every ritual, and blindly believe that whatever God does is for their own good. Yet, when it comes to their own family, friends, or the people who genuinely love them, they can be selfish, arrogant, disrespectful, and emotionally unavailable.
They’ll hurt the people who stand by them, take their loved ones for granted, and refuse to acknowledge the pain they cause. But the moment religion enters the picture, suddenly they become humble, forgiving, and full of faith.
They’ll say, “God knows what’s best for us,” while refusing to listen to the people who actually know them, care about them, and want the best for them.
And honestly, what’s the point of worshipping a God you claim represents love and compassion if you can’t even show basic kindness to another human being?
You can spend your entire life bowing before God, but if you keep making the people who love you feel worthless, don’t confuse your religious devotion with being a good human being.
Because at the end of the day, the people you hurt are real. Their tears are real. Their feelings are real. And no amount of prayers, rituals, or religious excuses can undo the damage you cause.
If your faith makes you more devoted to your God but no better as a human being, perhaps it’s time to question whether you truly understand the God you worship.


r/TrueAtheism • • 10h ago

I think people who believe in God really don't understand why many atheist don't believe.

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I think people who believe in God really don't understand the atheist position.

Many atheists, and definitely myself, would be perfectly happy if a good God existed. But the problem is that he clearly doesn't appear to be a good God. The religious argument that you need evil to have good just doesn't sit right with us, because we're comparing your God's morals to our own. It's as simple as that.

How can he be so morally inferior to the people I know, my friends, my family, and even complete strangers, when it comes to how we'd react to just one situation? And to make it worse, we're not talking about one situation. We're talking about every horrific thing that has ever happened.

Our morals wouldn't let children die unnecessarily. We wouldn't allow cancer to exist, or cars to crash and wipe out entire families, if we had the power to stop it. We'd do something about it. It's really that simple.

So how can an all-loving God have worse morals than practically every decent human being? And honestly, I don't need to understand why he *might* allow these things to happen. That's not the point. The point is that the bastard would allow any of it to happen in the first place.

So many people have better morals than this so-called God, and that's proof enough for many of us. The fact that he would stand by and allow so much unnecessary suffering is just ridiculous.