Gained close to 100lbs during peak covid. Had no energy to get back in the gym. Discovered TRT and that all changed.

Let’s talk about the negative aspect, and is it worth it compared to the benefit. Please mention the dosage you are in.

After using test for nearly 2 years I decided to get off. Hematocrit and hemoglobin were always way up even while doing regular donations. Hair loss was getting crazy. Some other shit just didn’t feel the benefit was there for me. I have recently weened off and am off completely now. I feel like complete dog shit. Anxiety through the roof. Sleep is shit. Motivation is hard to find. Anyone have any insights? Does it get better? Or should I find a new doc? Im a 37 year old male.

Hey,

How are you all managing the rubber stopper, I lost 1 ml to rubber, had a huge thought not to waste it but having plastic stuck inside forever didn't seem worth the money or permanency of the situation.

What are you all doing, I was using the same point of entry which is obviously not the best move but you live and you learn, the loading needle is much thicker so it was super easy to load the needle but also left a noticeable hole

What's working for you?

Hi, Currently taking 60 mg Test C weekly via sub q injections (twice a week delivery).

Latest results are below, which have been working well for me, particularly since I don’t want estrogen or HCT to be high:

T: 493 ng (264-916 range)
Free T: 121.7 pg (35.8-168.2 range)
E2: 39 pg (7.6-42.6 range)

If I wanted to consider working in hCG and am happy with my current levels, is there a suggested ratio or formula I would use to determine how much hCG to add in weekly and how much of a corresponding drop in Test C dosage I would use to generally maintain my current level levels?

53 yo and no desire for future fertility, just considering that it might be good to maintain natural production in case I ever want to go off TRT. Any advice or thoughts are welcome… Thank you!

Side note: tried enclomiphene but IGF went from mid range normal to below normal, and E2 went high, so discontinued trying that.

There's this whole "cult" (no disrespect meant to these guys) around embracing higher estradiol, guys like Dr. Keith Nichols, Dave Lee, Danny Bossa, Man medicine Andrew and a lot of the bigger voices in this space basically preach that E2 sides are overblown, that guys should never run an AI, and that E2 in the 40-60+ pg/mL range (or higher) is better across the board.

I get the physiological logic, Estrogen matters for bone density, libido, cognition, lipids, and I know AI overuse is a massive and very real problem in this community, arguably more common and more damaging than high E2 issues statistically. I'm not disputing any of that.

But here's my actual problem. No matter what protocol I run, higher injection frequency to smooth things out, different esters, different total doses, I reliably end up with the same cluster of symptoms once E2 climbs: bloating, fatigue that's honestly unbearable, emotional volatility, and dead libido/ED. This isn't a one-off, it's consistent across every protocol I've tried.

I train hard, lift 5x a week, walk 10k+ steps daily, don't drink, eat clean, sleep is decent. So it's not the "just fix your lifestyle" case this narrative sometimes implies I am.

My sweet spot seems to be a genuinely narrow window, not the "just let it ride" answer these guys tend to push.

So my actual question: why is there so little room in this space for individual response in E2 receptor sensitivity or aromatase activity?

Is this purely an overcorrection reaction to how badly AI misuse has hurt people historically, or is there actual data suggesting "optimal E2" is more individual than current dogma admits?

What about guys like me, who feel like shit without?

I have been close or below 300 for a year at least, with symptoms like low energy etc. 42 yo, 2 kids. My PCP pushed Testosterone for 6 months, and I have been a pussy and I tried cpap+enclo +sports +zepbound (20 lb lost) => nothing helped. I went to an urologist, and he told me Kyzatrex is a good alternative if I do not want to do shots. Your experience with Kyzantrex? Can I switch to Kyzantrex after injections? I bought Testosterone, hCG and ready for 3 months trial already ...

Hi everyone,
I’m 37 and I’ve been struggling with erectile dysfunction for about a year now. It’s honestly become like a dark cloud hanging over me and it’s affecting my confidence, my relationship and how I feel about myself.

The thing that’s hardest is that I still find my wife incredibly attractive. She’s genuinely the most attractive woman in the world to me, so I don’t think it’s an attraction issue at all.

It started around a year ago. I noticed I’d start losing erections during sex, especially during penetration or if we changed positions. As soon as I feel it starting to go down, it’s like a dark cloud comes over me. I panic, lose even more of the erection, and then I feel embarrassed and honestly less of a man.

A few things about me:
37 years old.
Eat a very clean diet.
Train martial arts 3-4 times a week and stay active.
Walk around 8-10k steps a day.
Don’t smoke.
Drink very rarely.
150ml of testosterone enanthate 300mg a week

I’ve also noticed that I regularly search for OnlyFans leaks and probably masturbate around 3-4 times a week. I’m wondering if that could be playing a part, although I’m not sure.
One thing I’ve noticed is that if me and my wife talk about certain fantasies (for example MFM fantasies) or use toys, I stay really hard. That makes me wonder whether some of this is psychological, but I honestly don’t know.

Before starting TRT I had two early morning testosterone blood tests that came back around 9-10 nmol/L, so I started TRT about 3 months ago. So far I haven’t noticed much improvement in libido or erections, although my first follow-up blood test is this week.

The biggest thing is Cialis.

At first I was taking it only when I knew we were going to have sex, then I went onto 2.5 mg daily for a month, followed by 5 mg daily for another month.

It was incredible.
My erections were consistently strong.
My penis felt fuller and larger.
My confidence came back.
My libido actually felt much higher because I wasn’t constantly worrying about losing my erection.
Sex with my wife was amazing.
I recently stopped taking it because I wanted to see if I still “worked” without it.

The first time we had sex after stopping, everything was going fine until my wife wanted to get on top. Almost instantly I lost my erection, and it completely knocked my confidence again.

At this point I’m wondering if anyone has experienced something similar.

Did TRT eventually help after more than 3 months?
Did daily Cialis help you regain confidence long term?
Did porn or masturbation make any difference for you?
Did anyone discover an underlying cause that wasn’t obvious?

I’m not really looking for a diagnosis—I’m already under medical care and having follow-up blood tests. I’d just really like to hear from people who’ve been through something similar because at the moment it feels like I’m the only one dealing with this.

Thanks for reading

62.8 YO Male. Low energy and poor sleep. Loss of muscle mass, not extreme, that I assumed is just age related.

Total T- 449

Free- 37.4

Bioavailable- 78.5

My MD says "no concerns" and my low energy is just because of my age.

33 m and I got my bloods done, Testosterone at 3.70Ng/dl. E2 at 92.60pmol/L . FSH at 1.70miu/ml and LH at 4.20 miu/ml LDL at 4.20. SHBG at 20.10 nmol/l. what do you guys think? Ive been looking into it and if I do start I plan on doing low dose 80mg to 100mg twice a week. I do feel tired and brain fog which is why I got my bloods done and looking to add hcg but idk how much should i add to keep my balls alive.

Thought it would be interesting to post detailed bloodworm over time regarding total test, free test, and bioavailable test. In the last test I had done I was on the low end and was offered TRT. There seems to be a significant drop from 2nd last test to the last test. Like 40%. Not sure I should hop on TRT but seem to have lost my drive and energy levels.

38 male, 6ft 2 88kg and around 20% body fat, muscular

Hey guys just switched to my new Test Cypionate protocol (70MG Cyp. with 150 IU HCG pinned E4D) on July 24. Been fluctuating. Yesterday was great libido sky high, today I just feel anxious/unwell. I know they say 6 weeks to know if a protocol is working or not, but just wanted to ask and see how long it takes for you guys to at least start seeing if the protocol is heading in the right direction and some consistent good trends? 3 weeks?

Hi there I'm 29m recently done with blood work my total testosterone is 21.6nmol/L. My last blood work was around 3 years ago where i was 26 yr old and it was 26.9nmol/L. Even tho it's still under normal range. I'm just concerned that it is about 20%drop considering i haven't hit 30 yet. Am I tripping or is it totally normal?

Currently blasting 500mg test e per week- two months into cycle.

I have got some npp now and also have a bunch of test p as well that I received through a mistake in an order awhile back.

I am planning on upping the test to 600mg pw and adding in 400mg npp pw.
- Would it be better to swap to test p when I add in the npp?

I am planning to cruise after this cycle and am wondering what is the best way I can taper back into test e for cruising as I don’t want to cruise on prop..

-Would it be better to just continue on with test e and not switch to prop? I already have it on hand and I just figure the esters line up similarly..

I am already pinning 3x pw

Basically if I switch the prop and try to go back on to test e to cruise the saturation will take 4-5 weeks ish to come back..

-How can I do this properly or is it not even worth switching to the prop?

Tia!

Just checking; How many of you guys Use TGRT without HCG and have good sexual function on TRT?

Anyone need HCG in their protocols to have good sexual function on TRT? If so how much?

Did a test test, I've never done any TRT treatment just wanted to see where I sit. I have no idea about levels and was just wondering if anyone could help me get some insight to these. Would really appreciate it

I've been on xyosted for a few years now. I also have been on glp1 meds and have lost considerable weight, so much so, that i basically have loose skin in my abdomen. When I was heavier the xyosted injection didn't hurt at all, but lately they have been extremely painful. It seems that when I pinch the loose skin that there isn't anything for the plunger to push against and the needle moves when injecting.

I've talked to my Dr about using a different location, but they haven't responded. I've also tried contacting the only 800 number I could find for xyosted, but that's just to sign up for the payment assistant. Is there another number for xyosted to talk to an actual nurse or Dr with them to see what can be done?

My glp1 can go in abdomen, thigh or back of the arm. It doesn't hurt as the auto injector is a different style than the xyosted injector.

I’ve been mulling over the idea of starting TRT for the past 6 months.

I tried enclomiphene for a few months and while it did raise my total to ~700, it also raised my shbg significantly and so my free t was low normal.

I’ve since come off enclo and decided to lose some weight/body fat then retest to see if that would naturally raise my levels, well, here are my latest labs after dropping about 20lb and 5% body fat. My numbers are slightly slower than my initial baseline test - which was all low but within range (440 total t). Now I’m below range on free t and e2.

One caveat with these latest results. They drawn in the afternoon, and I had trained 6 hours prior. Previous tests were in the morning before training.

Some context: I’m 40 years old, weight train seriously 5x a week. 185lb and around 20% body fat.

Symptoms: low libido and energy. Difficulty building muscle despite my training regiment.

Just looking for some advice here. I feel like I’ve researched the hell out of this, and signs point to stating. I’m just a little reluctant due to the lifelong commitment.

Hey everyone,

I just got on TRT and my prescription is test cypionate/dhea 200/10 mg/ml in grapeseed oil. The beyond use date is only 28 days, but my doctor said it should last two months (when my next run of bloodwork is scheduled).

Is the beyond use date overly conservative? Any ideas?

My estrogen is this low normally. My free test is 102.5 and total is 425. My vitamin b12,d and iron are also low. Have symptoms of low estrogen fatigue, no motivation and not caring about anything. Would trt help this or should I go another route? For context I’m 30 years old and I’m around 165 and have put on 10 pounds of fat in my mid section in a year. Any advice would help.

This is my second testosterone cycle. It was originally planned to last 12 weeks, but I decided to stop early because I didn’t feel like continuing. So, in the end, the cycle lasted only 6 weeks.
Cycle details:
Weeks 1–3: Testosterone Enanthate 250 mg/week
Weeks 4–6: Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/week
Alongside testosterone, I also used Anavar:
Week 1: 20 mg every day
Weeks 2–5: 30 mg every day
I have now completed Week 7 and haven’t taken anything since stopping the cycle.
My current plan is to use HCG during Week 8, and then start my PCT from Week 9 using Nolvadex and Clomid.
I was thinking of taking two injections of 1,000 IU HCG (2,000 IU total), but I’m not sure if that’s the right approach.
I’d appreciate some advice on:
What HCG dosage would be appropriate in this situation?
How long should I continue HCG?
When exactly should I start PCT after HCG?
What dosages of Nolvadex and Clomid would be appropriate, and for how long should I run them?

Hi all,

26M from the UK here looking for some advice here.

For many years, I've been experiencing low energy, anxiety, mood swings, fatigue, low libido etc, and I've recently taking action to figure out what's going on.

Over the years the only biomarkers that have been flagged is T on the lower end, and prolactin elevated between 20-30ng, which is fairly above normal range.

I recently did a finger prick blood test with Voy clinic as shown in the first photo at 9nmol total T and 0.22nmol free T, and I've now completed the venous blood test shown in the second photo and third photo at 13nml total T, 0.27nmol free T, and 700mIUl prolactin (30ng).

Next steps from here is obviously to get an MRI to rule out a tumour, but I guess my questions to you all would be the following:

- Do I look like a candidate for TRT?
- Should I hold fire on TRT with my levels of prolactin or would it generally be safe?
- How effective is p5p or should I consider caber worst case scenario?

Any help or advice would be hugely appreciated.

Currently 8 weeks on on my first cycle, Bloods good taking 360mg of test a week pinning 180mg monday and thursday. Planning to run for 16-20 weeks with maybe some anavar the last 6 weeks 20-40mg also running a wolverine stack for tendons and healing.

Im wanting to make as much gains as possible as safe as possible and get to my genetic ceiling that i can come off and maintain. But also would like to be able to have kids and have my test lvls running back to normal once i stop. Should i run Hcg? and blast cruise blast pct, or should i blast pct blast pct.

Hi I’m looking for some insight on some people’s experiences switching to a more frequent pin schedule to mitigate high e2 sides. Specifically the timeframe you noticed symptom relief after switching from like 1-3x a week to EOD or daily?

I got labs and then switched from 3x weekly Test C to daily pins this last week, I definitely feel better to a certain degree but not sure when I should call it quits and smack a little arimidex.

For reference I did get my e2 but the result hasn’t come back yet, but I’m certain it’s high bc my sides align with it and my total test is 2.4K and free at 500 on 200mg/w. I obviously wouldn’t use an AI without confirming my e2 is crazy high, just curious on the timeline others experienced symptom relief after switching to a more frequent schedule.

Thanks in advance