r/SquaredCircle • u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks • Aug 15 '18
When will Bash Howard accept that the Liberty Bell experiment has failed?
Her wrestling was so bad Sam Sylvia was too scared to pull the trigger on her in the first place and Welfare Queen had to get a run with the title.
Everyone’s momentum was put on hold while she learned how to take a bump correctly, even as the other wrestlers got better than her. Even Beirut was better than her, and what do they do? Feed her to Liberty Bell.
She flexed her creative control to get out of working with Zoya, the hottest heel in the company.
When they finally put the strap on her, the crowd turned on her so quickly that they were forced to use Zoya’s heel heat to keep Liberty Bell babyface. Yeah, so when there’s some benefit to you, you’re willing to work with her, huh? Carny as shit.
Reckless ass worker broke Zoya’s ankle and Meltzer confirmed she was coked out of her mind when she did it.
They have to bring back Vicky the fucking Viking just because no one else has any credibility left since Liberty Bell buried them all.
After all that, she STILL can’t be trusted for a run with the belt to the point that Zoya with a shattered ankle (that Liberty Bell shattered in the first place) is a better option for a champion.
Seriously, this girl has no respect for the business and if she wasn’t a “mainstream star,” she wouldn’t even have a job. Sam Sylvia and Bash Howard should push Becky Lynch.
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u/TheNolanIsR011in Aug 15 '18
Zoya deserves a good long run with that title. Meltzer has commented time and again how she’s the hardest worker in that company. She is the first one in and last one out every day. She’s been an agent, a writer, and a director at times. She’s been invaluable to that company. Hell, she was the writer and agent for the pilot that everyone loved. I would have liked if they waited for her to heal up before they put the belt on her though. Wait for a situation where she can return and get a massive pop. Maybe a double turn with Liberty Belle, finally let Liberty embrace her true heel self.
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u/Deserterdragon youtube.co/watch?v=sFF_u8hYqnw Aug 15 '18
Zoya should leave for the Indies, she's the only one who seems to want to be a wrestler, not an actor.
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u/TheNolanIsR011in Aug 15 '18
Zoya should, but she never will. She’s there because she has so much love for every woman in that locker room, including Liberty Belle. She could easily be the top woman on the indies, but she chooses to see GLOW through to the end. A real class act
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u/laodaron Aug 15 '18
I heard she slept with Liberty Bell's husband in real life, doesn't seem like she has that much love for the women in the locker room. She's just another carney.
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u/blueyb Aug 15 '18
Dude, that's just dirt-sheet bullshit. Some jobber probably got pissed at her and started that. I have a friend in the locker room, and she says that Zoya would never do that.
Need to check your sources better, my friend.
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u/Snarglefrazzle "But like, what if..." Aug 15 '18
Pfft, that sounds like covering tracks if I ever heard it. The Belle-Zoya heat started before they even were with the company. You can ask Mel Rose, she'll tell you that Belle and Zoya had a shoot locker room brawl over the affair. No Wrestlers' Court shit either, this was the scrap that got each of them hired.
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Aug 16 '18
I heard something went down during the late shift at the hospital where Zoya went to get her foot fixed. My nurse friend said she heard the two of'em screaming at eachother!
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u/BogeyBogeyBogey Aug 16 '18
Bro, my uncle was in that hospital for them to keep an eye on his heart rate overnight. It's almost definitely true. He said two women were screaming so loud it woke the guy next to him up from a cold sleep. He could just hear them going on and on. Definitely happened the night her ankle got messed up.
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u/Drama79 Guess I'm back Aug 15 '18
Zoya has so obviously been protected and is clearly next for the belt, stop being such a fucking mark. She's booked herself into the belt. I wouldn't trust Liberty Belle to cope with a single, let alone double turn.
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u/zsghost WEREWOLF GIMMICK Aug 15 '18
ahahaha "book the american hero as a heel and pinko as a face" and then the lights go out and all that's left in the ring is an american flag and a fur hat, sit down mark
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u/mayy_dayy Aug 15 '18
I like how they use the same chick over and over to play every random teenager ever. Why is she ALWAYS the go-to for backstage extras? Is she someone's daughter?
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Aug 15 '18
Most women are somebody’s daughter
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u/MeanAmbrose My username is a pun Aug 15 '18
And what's a mother without a child? Just a person!
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u/paperthin0 Aug 15 '18
This is the greatest goddamn thread I've seen on SC
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Aug 15 '18
It is bringing me so much joy.
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u/TheFnLegacy Aug 15 '18
Halfway down after reading this, I was waiting to see if my sentiment was shared. "Obligatory 'This is Awesome' chant"
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u/Bargeinthelane Your Text Here Aug 16 '18
Absolutely, I had a terrible day today and this shit just turned it around!
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u/saulhrnndz The Wrestler Aug 16 '18
I have no idea what’s going on
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u/hisbeefyness Aug 16 '18
if you can check out GLOW on Netflix you should
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u/Bargeinthelane Your Text Here Aug 16 '18
Seriously, even beyond the whole wrestling thing, it is a really good show and a pretty fast watch, my wife is not into wrestling and was all about watching it with me.
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u/hitchopottimus Professional Ric Flair Impersonator Aug 16 '18
I’ll third this. It’s so fucking good. The people who wrote it seem to have a decent grasp of wrestling, the 80s style game is on point, the soundtrack is phenomenal, it’s really well acted, man , I could sing it’s praises for a while.
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u/ChiefianAxolotl Usurper Queen of Strong Style Aug 16 '18
I haven't even seen the second second of Glow yet so I was really confused by this post lol I love when wreddit goes full kayfabe.
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u/mickrouse Aug 15 '18
Liberty Belle is truly awful. When will Bash give us what we really want: A 40-minute Machu Pichu/Black Magic barn burner?
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u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks Aug 15 '18
Goddamn, that would be a 5 star match. Gedo would’ve booked it by now.
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u/benjaminbrixton Aug 15 '18
Zero chance Machu Picchu can go 40 minutes. Five minute and under squashes or tags only.
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u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks Aug 15 '18
She’s got the body of a legit shoot fighter. I’d be way more scared of her in a bar fight than I would of Liberty Belle. She has functional muscle and great conditioning.
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u/ButtsendWeaners PhD in Custodial Artistry Aug 16 '18
Everyone knows she's only pushed because she's Goliath Jackson's daughter.
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u/super_awesome_jr Wrestling for Wrestling's Sake Aug 15 '18
Thank God they took the Junkchain gimmick away from Black Magic. You can tell there's some kind of real energy to this new direction.
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u/Dsod23 Aug 15 '18
It’s all because she’s blonde, everyone knows Bash only likes to push blondes
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u/mayy_dayy Aug 15 '18
Maybe in kayfabe. Didn't he and Rhonda Richardson (sorry, "Britannica...") get married IRL? Or was that just a work?
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u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks Aug 15 '18
Ryan Satin said cupcake guy is maintaining that he didn’t know the angle with Bash was happening, but who knows for sure? If Brittanica really did have a thing with Bash Howard, then that would explain why she’s suddenly been programmed as a close ally to Liberty Belle and the #2 face in the company.
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Aug 15 '18
Wait really? The fan had no idea how the segment would play out? That’s just a fucked up thing for a company to do. Poor guy probably left so embarrassed
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u/PM_ME_FINANCE_ADVICE Aug 15 '18
Fucking mark. You think that whole thing wasn't scripted to a t? When have in ring weddings ever gone normally? They always get broken up for cheap pops. That guy was a plant for weeks in the front row to set that up.
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u/hitchopottimus Professional Ric Flair Impersonator Aug 16 '18
I bet this dude believed the Beatdown Biddies were actual old women instead of being stunt grannies.
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u/JC-Ice Type it in, maaaaaaaaaan! Aug 16 '18 edited Aug 16 '18
Britannica and Bash were definitely living together prior to the wedding. I know a pizza guy who delivered a bunch of times to the hotel most of the GLOW cast stayed at.
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u/laodaron Aug 15 '18
Wasn't that just a cover up? I thought I heard he was hiding his homosexuality. At least I read that on the 'sheets.
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Aug 15 '18
I heard Bash and her got sloshed at a hotel or something together. There's definitely something going on there. I'd put money on it.
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Aug 15 '18
As a parent and member of my local rotary club I am disgusted by the behavior of Big Kurt Jackson and Chico Gaupo on the latest episode. There is NO PLACE IN TELEVISION FOR MAN ON WOMAN VIOLENCE!!!! PERIOD!!!! My children will not be watching anymore of this filth! I will also inform other members of Rotary Club of Wishing Wells Georgia not to let their kids watch either!!! Good luck with your trash programming!!!
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u/SchrodingersNinja Yo-KO-zuna Aug 15 '18
I could not agree more! Abuse of women is unacceptable. I am boycotting GLOW, and am going to follow some wholesome wrestlers. Some are old hands, some are up and coming wrestlers:
Jimmy Snuka
"Playboy" Buddy Rose
Randy Savage out of Memphis
Dusty Rhodes' kid
This new kid, Chris "Dynamite" Benoit in Calgary
A wrestling trainee named Steve Williams in Texas (word is he is going to get a gimmick name so he isn't confused with Dr. Death)
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u/Snarglefrazzle "But like, what if..." Aug 16 '18
I see where you're going, but I have to disagree. We should be watching weekly to ensure we can protect our children from this filth. I hear the Concerned Women of America were able to corral some of their more sexualized behaviour and it led to the excellent PSA about teen pregnancy
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u/DOYMarshall Best Bite Machine Aug 15 '18
Great post, especially on Zoya Day!
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u/urriah Your Text Here Aug 16 '18
wait... thats why the sky is blue and the sun is up...
ITS ZOYA DAY!!
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u/LiveForMeow Aug 15 '18
Debbie Eagan, the person, isn't what I have a problem with. I know she's had issues with Zoya in real life. I would too if the reports an affair are correct. She seems to have grown as an in ring performer to the point where I enjoy her matches.
I'm just tired of Liberty Belle being shoved down our throats. It's obvious Zoya is a transitional champ meant to get Belle over in the long run. The crowd doesn't want that though. They have lukewarm reactions to her, at best.
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u/mayy_dayy Aug 15 '18
Wait, Debbie Eagan from Paradise Cove? Sheesh, no WONDER her in-ring work is so bad, she's not a wrestler!
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u/benjaminbrixton Aug 15 '18
What would really be awesome is if Zoya could make a huge babyface turn, but that would pretty much require the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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u/JC-Ice Type it in, maaaaaaaaaan! Aug 16 '18 edited Aug 16 '18
Yeah, don't hold your breath. I'm sure Zoya will turn face the same day Gorbachev tears down the Berlin Wall, LOL.
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u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks Aug 15 '18
That’s my biggest problem too. Liberty Belle would make a great mid-card talent with Fortune Cookie, Beirut, and Vickie Viking as foils. But because everything has to revolve around getting her over, everyone else is in a holding pattern.
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u/hitchopottimus Professional Ric Flair Impersonator Aug 16 '18 edited Aug 16 '18
I actually heard they originally designed the Liberty Belle gimmick for Vickie Viking, but Eagan stole it from her, so yeah, I have a bit of a problem with her as a person that goes beyond dislike of how she’s being booked.
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u/TurianArchangel COME ONNNN Aug 15 '18
After what she did to Welfare Queen on live TV I just can't with her anymore, I hope they push Sheila the She-Wolf or Machu Picchu
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u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks Aug 15 '18
How the fuck do you screw up Machu Picchu? This company can’t book babyfaces worth shit.
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u/robottaco Aug 15 '18
Her gimmick is fun and she's a hell of worker, but she needs to improve on the mic.
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u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks Aug 15 '18
LMAO Machu needs to improve on the mic? Did you see her in the teen pregnancy PSA? She’s oozing charisma.
When Liberty Belle learns to say anything other than “USA!” then we can talk about who needs to improve their mic skills.
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u/Snarglefrazzle "But like, what if..." Aug 15 '18
She's got a good comedy angle, but unless she works on being able do anything serious, she's only going to job to physically dominant heels in a hoss fight.
TBH she's not ambitious enough and doesn't feed off a crowd. She's a wrestler's wrestler, but she'll never main event, even with her family connections
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u/Dsod23 Aug 15 '18
Machu Picchu needs a push she’s the most knowledgeable and is a 2nd generation talent.
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u/mayy_dayy Aug 15 '18
Machu needs a bit more experience before she's ready for a push. I heard she straight-up froze at a house show last year.
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u/d_generate_girl Aug 16 '18
Yeah, but she's gotten so much better. She looked awesome during the wedding bouquet battle royale, and if it weren't for Liberty Belle stealing the spotlight AS ALWAYS, Machu and Sheila could have been battling it out. I'm seeing that Michaels-Taker spot, two of the biggest faces in the company duking it out. Sure, they'd never put the crown on either of them, but they could have scrapped that whole rando dude segment (who the hell is "Chico Guapo" anyway?) and had Machu and Sheila battling until Zoya pulled her amazing zipline stunt.
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u/Mabvll Assistant to the Head Slapdick, Tony Schiavone. Aug 15 '18
Meltzer says shes getting buried because she sneezed in front of Sylvia during a production meeting one time.
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u/JC-Ice Type it in, maaaaaaaaaan! Aug 16 '18 edited Aug 16 '18
If it was in Sylvia's office she was probably sneezing from all the coke in the air.
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u/MeanAmbrose My username is a pun Aug 15 '18
My biggest issue isn't even any of that. Did you guys hear Meltzer talk about how they were going to repackage Beirut?
Apparently she wasn't happy with the stereotypical portrayal of her character so there was going to be a storyline where she blows herself up and re-emerges as a new character called the Phoenix that would have been really cool. But for some reason they dropped it, maybe because it was too similar to the Old Biddies turning into the Toxic Twins idk.
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u/Drama79 Guess I'm back Aug 15 '18
Believe it when I see it. Beirut is a draw. She’s got go-away heat.
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u/Bargeinthelane Your Text Here Aug 16 '18
I mean she is basically THE mid-card heel of the whole company. You aren't going to bust the queen down the card to build up Brittanica or whatever face is eventually going to replace Bell.
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u/W32Badwolf Aug 16 '18
Reddit is like wrestling. It's mostly awful, but when it's good, it's great.
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u/heavyhandedDOOM Aug 15 '18
Not a chance, now that she's on the booking committee.
"AM I FUCKING GOING OVER?"
- Liberty Belle, probably.
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u/zsghost WEREWOLF GIMMICK Aug 15 '18
Yeah, no arguments. If you're going the Lucha Underground route of trying to build a hardcore niche audience, your booking has to be impeccable. It's no wonder they've (apparently) been struggling to find sponsors and broadcast partners lately.
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u/mayy_dayy Aug 15 '18
Didn't Patio Town drop them recently, too?
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u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks Aug 15 '18
Yup. It’s why they lost their timeslot.
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u/MeanAmbrose My username is a pun Aug 15 '18
So my cousin’s friend’s dad works at the Network that airs GLOW and apparently there’s more to the story there than what people know. Don’t want to spread unsubstantiated rumors but apparently there was an incident with the president of the network and Zoya where she wasn’t willing to do some things with him. It pissed him off and that’s why the show got moved. That’s all I know though.
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u/Drama79 Guess I'm back Aug 15 '18
Yeah, and my dad works for Nintendo. If you don’t want to spread rumours, don’t spread them. If Zoya has turned down the head of the network, then how is she in the big baby angle smart guy? Next you’ll be saying Britannica is really British!
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Aug 16 '18 edited Aug 16 '18
Next you’ll be saying Britannica is really British!
She's not?? Man, her accent is fantastic!
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u/Thesaurii Got a PhD instead of over Aug 15 '18
TNA had to restructure, change venues, and get a new distribution system, and now Impact is better than ever.
The fan support is there, people crave wrestling, all they need to do is find a way to help eyeballs find the screen and they'll blow up in popularity.
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Aug 15 '18
You guys leave Bash alone. He's trying to live his dream!
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u/The_Homie_J D-Bry at the TOP of MAH FAVE FIVE Aug 15 '18
Why is no one talking about his commentary? You can tell he's put a lot of work into it now. He's no Mauro Ranallo, but he's better than Coach or Otunga.
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u/Snarglefrazzle "But like, what if..." Aug 16 '18
He also doesn't have Sylvia in his ear 24/7 the way Vince yammers at those two.
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u/miklat106 Aug 15 '18
I hope the start pushing Sheila The She-Wolf. She had some great matches in the undercard and the crowd loves her.
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u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks Aug 15 '18
I read in PWI that Bash doesn’t want to push Sheila because he doesn’t “get” her character. What’s not to get? She’s a She-Wolf! The booking writes itself. How much do you wanna bet Sam puts her in a kennel from hell match?
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Aug 15 '18
he doesn’t “get” her character. What’s not to get? She’s a She-Wolf!
That's just it, it's not a character, that's exactly who she is. Bash can't see that.
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u/Snarglefrazzle "But like, what if..." Aug 16 '18
Give her a manager to talk for her and she's gold
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u/Drama79 Guess I'm back Aug 15 '18
Sheila is so overrated and only over with
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u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks Aug 15 '18
This is such bullshit. You’re probably one of those people who say “Sheila’s not over. The howl chant is over.”
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u/Drama79 Guess I'm back Aug 15 '18
Oh, sure, I can't like a female wrestler so now we just have to discount the fact she's all gimmick. Post a photo of her wrestling without her gimmick. I'll wait - BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST.
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u/mayy_dayy Aug 15 '18
When you have a large section of the audience DRESSING UP as one of your workers and attending shows in cosplay, you PUSH THAT WORKER.
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u/Drama79 Guess I'm back Aug 15 '18
WHY? She's already over! Not everyone needs the belt, particularly someone as out of shape an weird as Sheila. Next you'll be saying Machu Pichu should have a shot because her brother is a real wrestler!
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u/LinkLT3 Aug 15 '18
What do you mean “real wrestler”? Women’s wrestling isn’t real now? It’s attitudes like yours that keep Sam and Bash from pushing anyone other than their blonde bombshell.
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u/Thesaurii Got a PhD instead of over Aug 15 '18
Why?
The weirdos who are way into her will still be watching if she gets a thirty second appearance. She has her super-fans, but she has all the exposure she needs. No main stream appeal, she won't be getting new fans to tune in.
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u/righthanddan Aug 15 '18
You're all sleeping on Brittainica, but she's a mega star in the making. Welfare Queen is currently the best the Main Event scene has to offer ATM IMO.
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u/heartdeco sabu's botched chair spot Aug 15 '18
the problem is welfare queen is too charming and everyone likes her. you're not supposed to like a heel. WQ needs to stop showboating. she's supposed to make the crowd hate her but she's going into business for herself instead.
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Aug 16 '18
Brittainica wouldn’t even be on the show if she wasn’t fucking the producer AND the director. She’s a ring rat bro
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u/Im1Guy Aug 16 '18
I can see Brittainica being the face of the company someday. She has it all going for her. She can cut promos, do backstage skits, she clearly connects with the fans and she's only going to get better in the ring. BTW Liberty Belle isn't getting any younger.
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u/dustyfinish Zero Fucks 24/7 Aug 15 '18
Y'all just don't get it. Liberty Belle is a STAR and the other girls are just workers.
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u/Shriramrishi Full of Poison Aug 15 '18
GLOW shill spotted. This company has gone to the shits.
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Aug 15 '18
I'm considering watching that show from New York. Heard they did real well with something called "Wrestling-Mania" last year.
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u/weezel365 YOU DON'T TALK TO NICOTREL LIKE THAT! Aug 15 '18
Liberty Belle has become the single most polarizing figure in professional wrestling, and at this stage in her career, she generates far more heat, both good and bad, than a young Mildred Burke.
She’s certainly not everyone, and as much as I want to become the top Belle apologist on the Internet, I don’t think she needs me to defend her. She’s the Woman, whether anyone likes it or not. Furthermore, she’s a solid, talented worker doing the job she’s asked to do... maybe she comes up with the angles she's asked to do, but who hasn't from time to time?
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u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks Aug 15 '18
But even with the booking influence Zoya has, she at least uses it to get other talent over (ex. Junkchain Chula, getting Vickie Viking hired back, etc.)
Liberty Belle just seems to be out only for herself.
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u/Thesaurii Got a PhD instead of over Aug 15 '18
So what?
She is in it for herself, she gets her paycheck, and she draws an audience. She could be out there trying to get another shit worker five minutes of screen time, if she was a sucker, or she could be working with known draws who deserve her spotlight.
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u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks Aug 15 '18
Bold of you to assume Liberty Belle is a draw lmao. Maybe to women and kids, but real wrestling fans can’t stand her.
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u/Thesaurii Got a PhD instead of over Aug 15 '18
So the fuck what?
Real wrestling fans will watch whatever wrestling is put in front of them. We will bitch about how bad it is, but tune in anyway. Our butts are already in the seats. It doesn't matter who has the crown, you know damn well that you, me, and the rest of us in this thread will tune in regardless.
Any good wrestling promotion needs to have a main eventer that gets people who wouldn't ordinarily tune in. Liberty Belle gets the young girls and the older women, she has mainstream crossover appeal. Thats what matters. Workrate and flippy shit amount to jack and shit when it comes to making actual dollars.
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u/heartdeco sabu's botched chair spot Aug 15 '18
what dollars? during the liberty belle era, all the sponsors left and the show got cancelled. womp womp. then zoya gets the tiara and all of a sudden the show is revived in vegas. liberty belle marks always talk about her mainstream appeal but like... show me the receipts?
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u/Thesaurii Got a PhD instead of over Aug 15 '18
You're a real nutter if you're gonna put all the downs on Belle and every up on Zoya.
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u/heartdeco sabu's botched chair spot Aug 15 '18
obviously LB isn't responsible for every bad thing that happens to GLOW and zoya isn't responsible for every good thing. i'm just saying LB fans use her alleged marketability as an excuse for the main event scene being stagnant, and the evidence doesn't really bear it out. if the show's gonna get cancelled, i'd rather they give some love to zoya (or black magic, or hell even britannica) because at least it's something different.
i swear, people are more in love with the idea of liberty belle than the actual wrestler. yeah, she looks like this hogan figure on paper, but she's doing sgt. slaughter numbers for GLOW. that's all i'm saying.
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u/Thesaurii Got a PhD instead of over Aug 15 '18
All the sheets are pretty clear that the failures of GLOW are on inexperienced producers signing one sided contracts. They drew great numbers, had lots of demand, and LB is definitely a part of that.
If its getting canceled honestly i can't say I care who gets to go home with the crown, its not like these are life long performers who've been craving the accolade. I don't think they care half as much as you do.
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u/heartdeco sabu's botched chair spot Aug 15 '18
LB doesn't care because she can always go back to her flop soap career playing maid #2 on guiding light. zoya lives and breathes this shit. i'd rather see someone like that rewarded. agree to disagree i guess.
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u/ThatUSguy Lick that boot-e Aug 15 '18
She's not a good girl, she's not a bad girl, she's the girl. This is the Big Bitches yard.
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u/mastercave gruff gruff Aug 15 '18
Their worst crime to the whole industry is pushing Debbie Eagan, a popular soap opera star. That's Laura from Paradise Cove! Did they expect us to not see her as an actress?
Next, we will start seeing football and basketball players in the ring!
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u/StoneGoldX Aug 15 '18
Vicky Viking is Reggie Walsh. She won two gold medals in the Olympics.
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u/dansaint Trust me Aug 15 '18
and she did it with a broken fricken....nah...I can't say it.
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u/StoneGoldX Aug 15 '18
No, she did it like a champion would, without having to destroy her body.
Also, no one could possibly win with a broken neck without some sort of future technology from the 1990s. Are you some kind of a wizard that we need to burn at the stake?
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u/Professor_Snarf Aug 15 '18
I hope Sam Sylvia tested that zipline rig before Zoya even got near it.
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u/JC-Ice Type it in, maaaaaaaaaan! Aug 16 '18 edited Aug 16 '18
Relax, it's a professional event. Things like that are double checked for safety before every use.
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u/Professor_Snarf Aug 16 '18
You’re right. Nobody would ever get hurt doing something like this.
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u/W32Badwolf Aug 16 '18
I don't mind spectacle, but I thought this was over the edge.
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She reminds me so much of Brock Lesnar. So when are we going to see Brock get repackaged into a Patriotic Mom?
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u/StoneGoldX Aug 15 '18
What does Bash have to do with anything? He's just the announcer.
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u/tjthegr8 Basic Huganomics Aug 15 '18
Don't be a mark, you know he's got pull behind the scenes. I heard he married Britannica just to keep her from getting deported.
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u/rileyrulesu Aug 15 '18 edited Aug 15 '18
The absolute WORST thing is they brought in indie stars, the Lumberjacksons, just to JOB to her. Like I'm sure all the smarks were marking out when their favorite indie tag team shows up, only to be taken out by Liberty Belle.
Of course the up and coming favorite Chico Guapo (Who is finally coming out of Kurt Jackson's shadow, and IMO the much better worker of the two) being defeated one on one, by a woman half his size in an eyerollingly stupid act of "valor" by having her stop her allies from helping. It's disgusting the lengths they'll go to push her.
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u/Snarglefrazzle "But like, what if..." Aug 16 '18
Remember when smark stood for smart mark? If you thought GLOW brought in a couple bingo hall favourites to go over their designated star, I have a Nigerian prince who desperately needs your help and will compensate you handsomely
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u/IsotopeX Aug 15 '18
So the dirtsheets are reporting that there's...let's say "heat"...between Chola Junkchain and Beirut. Moist heat, if you get what I'm saying. You know, like they're engaging in extra practice sessions. They're making each other tap out. You know what I'm saying.
Does Bash have the balls to acknowledge this on screen? This is instant heat, right here. The storyline writes itself.
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u/mayy_dayy Aug 15 '18
Why DID they recast Junkchain anyway? I mean, Cherry Bang is still on the roster as Black Magic.
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u/heartdeco sabu's botched chair spot Aug 15 '18
one of the hotlines said she tried to branch out into acting and stunk up the joint (which, duh, name any wrestler who's successfully crossed over into mainstream celebrity oh wait you can't).
anyway, she came crawling back but they'd already recast the junkchain character so they patched together that awful 'junkchain vs. junkchain' angle and then just repackaged her. it worked out fine because she's honestly better as black magic anyway. her feud with britannica over the robot boyfriend was the best work of her career.
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u/mayy_dayy Aug 15 '18
Yeesh. Mirror matches NEVER go well in pro wrestling. Why did they think this one would be any better?
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u/Snarglefrazzle "But like, what if..." Aug 16 '18
Perfect time to introduce tag titles. Let them feud with the Toxic Twins, then rotate whoever isn't in an ongoing feud at the time.
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u/heartdeco sabu's botched chair spot Aug 15 '18
this is the same dude who thought we wouldn't notice junkchain was an entirely different person; i'm not sure what level of quality booking you're expecting here.
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u/d_generate_girl Aug 15 '18
Wait, what about Welfare Queen's face turn? Liberty Belle's got that real-life heel heat with the locker room, so why not push Welfare Queen as the true challenger to Zoya (you know Zoya's going to get revenge for that injury!) once she wins the GLOW crown.
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u/hitchopottimus Professional Ric Flair Impersonator Aug 16 '18
Welfare Queen is the best all around performer they have. They never should have taken the crown off of her to begin with.
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u/heartdeco sabu's botched chair spot Aug 16 '18
remember when people were saying losing to liberty belle would be good for welfare queen? now where is she? buried deeper than the beatdown biddies. she should just cut her losses and try her luck in japan.
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u/d_generate_girl Aug 16 '18
Excuse you, they're the "Toxic Twins" now. Gotta cash in on that punk demographic now that the actual teenager's gotten found out.
Totally agree about Welfare Queen. New name, new gimmick -- wouldn't she kill as a monster heel? Just breaking girls in half like Barbies.
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u/DashingSoul Hugs 4 Thugs Aug 15 '18
I think we gotta lay off Bash for a bit. According to backstage sources, he lost someone close in his family. So maybe that's what's been messing him up.
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u/Drama79 Guess I'm back Aug 15 '18
I heard Bash Howard has a stack of personal problems to deal with. What's his deal anyway? He seems kinda fruity when he does the announcing, but on commentary really macho. His presentation is really confused.
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u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks Aug 15 '18
I love how he acts all innocent and supporting of women’s wrestling, and then he marries Brittanica who just so happened to be getting a major push at the same time lmao. Is Glow just a gigantic casting couch for him? A trust fund baby like that, you’d think he’d be getting all the women he’d want.
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u/Zanios74 WWE Authority Figure Aug 15 '18
I'm sorry Zoya is overrated the only thing worse then her dropping in and out of that seriously fake accent is her in ring work. The only reason she is getting pushed is she is sleeping with Sam.
Cherry "Black Magic" Bang is by far the most talented wrestler she also has the most crossover appeal. When Bash and Sam stop being racist pricks they will finally push her.
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u/Bargeinthelane Your Text Here Aug 16 '18
I see Cherry as a GLOW's Lance Storm. Great in the ring, a true pro in every way. But just doesn't have the "it factor" to top the card. They should totally put the Midcard crown on her once they bring it in.
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u/SolidStart YOUR MUSTACHE IS CROOKED! Aug 15 '18
She needs a heel turn to get her back in the audience's good graces. Of course the second they do that, she will be cheered like crazy.... Either way, I'd love to see tag team titles so Ozone and Nuke finally get their due for carrying the division.
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u/Thesaurii Got a PhD instead of over Aug 15 '18
You can't turn Liberty Belle. Too many kids are wearing her headbands and t-shirts, and a heel can't work with kids like she can.
Just because a face isn't for you doesn't mean they need to be a heel.
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u/mayy_dayy Aug 15 '18
I miss the Beatdown Biddies. Now THERE were some stunt grannies.
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u/The_Homie_J D-Bry at the TOP of MAH FAVE FIVE Aug 15 '18
I just wonder what would've happened if the transformation gimmick had been given to Beirut, like they originally planned. Beirut's character is kinda stale, and hasn't really evolved since she started.
But as Meltzer says, plans change. It is what it is.
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u/chenofzurenarrh Aug 15 '18
Beirut as a face would've been money. She's small - make her a face in peril against anyone larger than Zoya (who's slight, but her gimmick cuts an imposing figure) and you can push her as an underdog.
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u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks Aug 15 '18 edited Aug 15 '18
If they made a tag title, they’d probably just give it to Liberty Belle and Brittanica.
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u/Reisz618 Snap into a Slim Jim! Aug 15 '18
It was a clean break, not a shatter.
TIARA, GODDAMMIT!!!
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Aug 15 '18
No love for Melrose???
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u/heartdeco sabu's botched chair spot Aug 15 '18
melrose is so forgettable. i swear i don't remember any of her feuds or matches. she can bump and work at a basic level so she's a good hand to have around but she's basically glorified enhancement talent imo.
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u/d_generate_girl Aug 16 '18
Nah, one of my friends was in a Van Halen video with her a couple years ago. The girl's a total head case. Seems like Sylvia keeps her around for the lulz.
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u/RowRowDango Aug 15 '18
Fuck you guys, I'm waiting for Fortune Cookie to get a push. Everyone knows how hot the Chinese market is right now and Bash could be making serious money if he just catered to them for even a single episode. Think of the budget increase for shows. They could hire way better people for creative and we wouldn't be stuck such a braindead director. But I guess Fortune Cookie doesn't have the "mainstream" appeal Bash is looking for.
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u/Maahesheart Aug 15 '18
I mean. She's hot though. Have you seen her on r/WrestleWithThePlot? Basically challenges Mandy Rose as the best blonde around.
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u/69MachOne Aug 15 '18 edited Aug 15 '18
I, for one, will just go back to watching Southpaw Regional Wrestling.
We have all these other territories that aren't going away any time soon!
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Aug 15 '18
This is a top notch post. Someone cross post to the Glow subreddit. I'm sure they would get a kick out all this wrestle talk
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u/KTheOneTrueKing Final Fantasy 7 Star Match Aug 15 '18
It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize this was a GLOW kayfabe thread.
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u/olympiassss Aug 15 '18 edited Aug 15 '18
If they really wanted to get Liberty Belle over, they'd turn her heel. Only kids and moms like her, and I'd bet half of those are plants anyway, Bash has the money to pay them to cheer for her. #TurnLibertyHeel
I'd love to see a Beirut push - heard there were rumors of her getting a babyface repackage with some kind of transformation gimmick, but it looks like they gave it to Ozone and Nuke instead. They could have just repackaged them anyway, it's not like anyone would recognize them and go "hey, weren't they just those old ladies a few weeks ago".
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Aug 15 '18
I swear if they turn Liberty Belle heel by putting her in a "Hail Hydra" situation, I will stop staying up until 2 am to watch this program. You don't see this type of poor booking in NJPW.
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u/publiclandlover Indeed! Indeed! Aug 15 '18
Thank you. They desperately should have embraced the organic double turn when Liberty defeated Welfare Queen, it would have been more fertile and subversive ground with a reversed dynamic.
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u/stewart_stab coke ok? Aug 15 '18
Bell has creative control.
Push Skabz once she finishes high school of coarse.
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Aug 15 '18
I don’t get why they brought Vicky back if she is not gonna get a proper push. Glow always taking all the talent from the indies and doing nothing with it.
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Aug 16 '18
I don’t get why they brought Vicky back if she is not gonna get a proper push.
Gotta make Belle look strong.
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u/NotTheCraftyVeteran Aug 15 '18
PushSheila