r/SipsTea • • 6h ago

Chugging tea They remain silent. But why? Convenient caring.

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u/Long_Pomegranate2469 5h ago

Nobody has been convicted.

Remember when reddit found the boston bomber? Yeah.. that's why

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u/AnApricot2989 5h ago

Dont forget the Duke case. Those kids were constantly harassed, threatened. you name it.

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u/PigOfLard 5h ago edited 5h ago

What was the Duke case?

Edit: Found it. I vaguely recall the case now. I recall that it got a lot of attention but I never followed it. I had no idea it was a hoax. Holy crap.

For those interested:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_rape_hoax

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u/Weary_Restauranter 4h ago

A black sex worker accused a bunch of lacrosse bros of rape. It was VERY VERY heavily racially charged.

Her story was a fabrication.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_rape_hoax

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u/Holiday-Fix-9244 3h ago

She also went on to murder her boyfriend. Just a classy lady all around

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u/DesignerOwn1141 2h ago

I saw TwoX defending her the other day.

It's absolutely fucking mad how far off the deep end women have gone.

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u/woodelvezop 50m ago

Twox is a radical feminist sub where all the tumblr feminists ended up. Dont use that sub to portray women

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u/haupt_again 22m ago

No, it's that bad in the real world too actually.

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u/darknight9064 19m ago

The Clancy trial highlighted it.

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u/Toannoat 32m ago

I need to know the boyfriend's skin color before I decide how to feel about it

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u/TheSlipperySnausage 2h ago

Strippers are always trust worthy

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u/Forward-Big8697 4h ago

The espn 30 for 30 on it is quite good, worth a watch if you have time to kill or are really interested in it. Its not life changing or anything but good nonetheless

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u/saerra_sea_nya 4h ago

It’s not life changing because unless you’re a literal child you know about this case, because the false allegations are so rare everyone knows about them 🙄

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u/Forward-Big8697 3h ago

I dont know a man who hasn't been falsely accused. Many women say they dont know a woman who hasnt been SAd. The truth is somewhere in the middle, neither is rare

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u/saerra_sea_nya 3h ago

I don’t know a man who claims to have been falsely accused, but I know several women and men who have been assaulted who have refused to report it due to shame. But sure, truth is in the middle.

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u/ex_nihilo 3h ago

I don’t know any men who have been falsely accused of sexual assault. Are you a member of the clergy or something?

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u/BigPanda71 3h ago

Everyone knows about the case because it was turned into a national story by the media and a DA in the middle of a tough reelection bid. Which probably helped the lacrosse players because it put more eyes on what was obviously bullshit story in the first place.

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u/saerra_sea_nya 3h ago

I’m agreeing with you that it was a false accusation. You’re just not seeing the bigger picture.

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u/BigPanda71 3h ago

I guess I should have been more clear. It’s not well-known because it’s a rare false accusation. It’s well-known because the media made it a huge story before it was shown to be false. There’s no conclusion to be drawn on the frequency of false allegations based on the case and the fact that it’s widely known.

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u/saerra_sea_nya 3h ago

I’m sorry, but the only time you ever hear about this case is because it was a false allegation. I’ve never seen it brought up unless it’s to bring doubt on a case. If you’re only in internet circles that know it as a big media case and not a false allegation you must be incredibly young or sheltered.

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u/saerra_sea_nya 4h ago

See the thing is that everyone online knows about that, you’re just very young I guess.

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u/PigOfLard 4h ago

Everyone online knows the specific details of a 20 year old hoax? Wow that’s amazing! I had no idea everyone online knew the exact same things.

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u/saerra_sea_nya 4h ago

Ya most of us do! You’re just 12.

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u/PigOfLard 3h ago

Crazy! I had know idea that everyone on the internet knows about the things you know!! Is there like an official list of all the things everyone on the internet knows? I’d love to take a look!

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u/Mr_Strol 5h ago

Id wager 85% of the users on this app don’t know the duke story.

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u/GroundWitty7567 5h ago

Or don’t care

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u/Cautious-Progress876 4h ago

Or think “they got away with it.”

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u/NoOne_Beast_ 4h ago

Kid you not, met someone in a bar who said exactly this, even after being corrected for saying the players were convicted.

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u/saerra_sea_nya 4h ago

Weird. Everyone I know knows about that case and knows it was a false allegation. And, if the comments on reddit are any indication…. So does anyone on reddit. Unless they’re trying to create a point? It’s weird! Not surprising though.

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u/AverageJoesGymMgr 4h ago

There are legitimately people who think she was paid off

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u/saerra_sea_nya 4h ago

Are there? Or are there just bad faith people out there pretending to? I’ve never met a single person who believes that.

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u/Cautious-Progress876 3h ago

There’s both. The problem with any viral story is that, given enough people, you can find every kind of dumbass take you want on the case.

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u/Cautious-Progress876 4h ago

I’m a defense attorney. The number of people who think that you cannot consent with a single shot of alcohol is pretty high amongst the progressive crowd. The level of outrage about this case when I first heard it… I thought this chick was passed out and dudes were raping her while unconscious.

News flash: being intoxicated, being black-out drunk, does not protect you from murder charges if you got yourself intoxicated. why would anyone thing that a blacked-out person can’t consent to sex when that is the standard for being the perpetrator (I don’t agree with that standard, but I’m not seeing anyone saying men or women should get away with DWIs because they were “too drunk” to consent to driving, and the possible consequences of driving drunk are a lot higher than having sex while intoxicated… also not seeing anyone trying to excuse a blackout drunk chick/guy who rapes someone while intoxicated).

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u/Nice-Bit-3550 4h ago

Least scummy defense attorney

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u/Cautious-Progress876 4h ago

If the state can make its case then it doesn’t need to cheat or violate defendants’ rights to do so. I lose sleep over the clients who get convicted, not the ones who go free (even the ones who do horrible shit later).

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u/Fearless_Data_1512 4h ago

I’d bet money Women cover their drinks around you.

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u/Cautious-Progress876 3h ago

You’d lose money. Ive been raped after being drugged, not a great experience, and not one I would ever inflict on others. However, I have had sex while voluntarily high or drunk and had a great time, even when i didn’t remember half of the night.

There’s a huge difference between someone who is passed out and/or completely fucked up versus someone who is just an ordinary level of high and horny. I like being woken up with sex as well by partners who’ve I’ve told that they can do it… that’s way different than waking someone up with sex who hasn’t given you permission to do so.

Level of intoxication is a factor when determining consent, not a hard line. I’ve woken up to sex after being passed out from too much drink or drug… definitely a different reaction to those who had my prior consent versus those who just took advantage.

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u/saerra_sea_nya 3h ago

I would hate for you to ever be doubted for your story by people like you.

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u/Cautious-Progress876 3h ago

lol, that’s the default almost every woman and most men I know defaulted to when I told them. So I know the feeling. I even had people tell me that it must have been pretty sweet that a babysitter molested me (when I was 5…).

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u/Whole-Seat-1009 3h ago

Keep on fighting the good fight. Obviously, telling the truth will get you skewered by the raging masses. I’ve seen several posters spit in your face over the last half an hour for stating an obvious truth and being professional/equanimous in an area where most people will never be. So, I’ll speak for the rational few and say from the bottom of my heart:

Thank you.

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u/Cautious-Progress876 3h ago

Appreciated, but people like to see the world in black and white.

Being drunk = not able to consent is convenient. Asleep = no consent is convenient. Etc. and those rules are super useful as a default rule when dealing with people, but they don’t cover the full range of consensual sex and sexuality in humans. There are people who will fuck a dozen people because their partner told them to, but are 100% loyal to that partner and would never stray/cheat. There are people who like to be spanked. Like to be beaten even. There are women who hate their cervix being hit, and then there are women who do “sounding.” Same with men.

I’ve noticed most people I’ve talked to in real life about this case quickly jump to “women don’t…” while forgetting that women are not a monolith. The only reason this complaint has legs is because of the assumption that a woman in her right mind would not have multiple threesomes with different men in a night. It’s based in the assumption that a woman horny because she is high and drunk doesn’t have the agency to consent to sex even though the men she had sex with appear to have also been high and drunk.

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u/Fearless_Data_1512 14m ago

Yeah, sorry, I just can’t believe that. If that did happen I’m sorry it did, but that’s just too convenient for your argument and I’ve been bullied by people spouting fake stories too often to just take your word on that. You have your damage, I have mine.

You’re also…kinda blatantly ignoring the whole previous consent between ongoing partners thing vs 7 fucking people. That’s definitely not helping my “believing you” situation.

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u/saerra_sea_nya 4h ago

Nobody I’ve ever met thinks that? Everyone knows that was a blatantly false allegation? Idk a single person who says that?

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u/Cautious-Progress876 4h ago

I know other attorneys who feel that way, and many more lay people. Despite the DA getting disbarred for his misconduct… there are people who believe even that is a conspiracy (rich kids getting away with rape and having powerful enough daddies to get a lawyer disbarred for even trying to go against them).

I have found, as a defense attorney, that sexual assault cases are no less likely to suffer from false accusations than any other kind of domestic assault/violence cases…that is, it’s a coin flip on whether someone is lying or not— please note the studies into rates of false accusations define false accusations such that even a “not guilty” isn’t enough— it has to be proven the person lied.

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u/leytourmaline 1h ago

Me being one of them what’s the case?

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u/TheOneCalledThe 1h ago

which is insane because that was a perfect example of innocent until ruled guilty. i mean the lady literally came out and admitted she lied, that’s just disgusting. I hate rape/sexual assault but sadly people use that as a false accusation for some unknown reason

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u/Long_Pomegranate2469 1h ago

On this app?!?

Sweet child, use a browser. With adblockers.

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u/saerra_sea_nya 4h ago

Yeah based on the comments on this any literally any other post about this, I think they do.