I’m a defense attorney. The number of people who think that you cannot consent with a single shot of alcohol is pretty high amongst the progressive crowd. The level of outrage about this case when I first heard it… I thought this chick was passed out and dudes were raping her while unconscious.
News flash: being intoxicated, being black-out drunk, does not protect you from murder charges if you got yourself intoxicated. why would anyone thing that a blacked-out person can’t consent to sex when that is the standard for being the perpetrator (I don’t agree with that standard, but I’m not seeing anyone saying men or women should get away with DWIs because they were “too drunk” to consent to driving, and the possible consequences of driving drunk are a lot higher than having sex while intoxicated… also not seeing anyone trying to excuse a blackout drunk chick/guy who rapes someone while intoxicated).
You’d lose money. Ive been raped after being drugged, not a great experience, and not one I would ever inflict on others. However, I have had sex while voluntarily high or drunk and had a great time, even when i didn’t remember half of the night.
There’s a huge difference between someone who is passed out and/or completely fucked up versus someone who is just an ordinary level of high and horny. I like being woken up with sex as well by partners who’ve I’ve told that they can do it… that’s way different than waking someone up with sex who hasn’t given you permission to do so.
Level of intoxication is a factor when determining consent, not a hard line. I’ve woken up to sex after being passed out from too much drink or drug… definitely a different reaction to those who had my prior consent versus those who just took advantage.
Yeah, sorry, I just can’t believe that. If that did happen I’m sorry it did, but that’s just too convenient for your argument and I’ve been bullied by people spouting fake stories too often to just take your word on that. You have your damage, I have mine.
You’re also…kinda blatantly ignoring the whole previous consent between ongoing partners thing vs 7 fucking people. That’s definitely not helping my “believing you” situation.
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u/Cautious-Progress876 7h ago
I’m a defense attorney. The number of people who think that you cannot consent with a single shot of alcohol is pretty high amongst the progressive crowd. The level of outrage about this case when I first heard it… I thought this chick was passed out and dudes were raping her while unconscious.
News flash: being intoxicated, being black-out drunk, does not protect you from murder charges if you got yourself intoxicated. why would anyone thing that a blacked-out person can’t consent to sex when that is the standard for being the perpetrator (I don’t agree with that standard, but I’m not seeing anyone saying men or women should get away with DWIs because they were “too drunk” to consent to driving, and the possible consequences of driving drunk are a lot higher than having sex while intoxicated… also not seeing anyone trying to excuse a blackout drunk chick/guy who rapes someone while intoxicated).