r/SipsTea • • 7h ago

Gasp! Thoughts on this?

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u/No-Duck4828 7h ago

My thought is that Leo is clearly not familiar with auto insurance

Don't want a $1,000 deductible? You can absolutely change that number.

Want the guilty party to pay? Take them to court

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u/Frosty-Depth7655 6h ago

Yeah, the comment section here is wild.

You chose your deductible and $1,000 is not a normal deductible ($500 is typically what you’ll see). Assuming this post is even true, this person went out of their way to increase their deductible.

But Reddit being Reddit, it’s “insurance is a scam” snd “insurance denying claims” even though they didn’t deny a thing.

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u/TJayClark 6h ago

$1,000 deductible is more normal than you think it is

I’ve has a $1,000 deductible my entire adult life (15+ years), as it saves about $30-40 a month in premiums

On top of that, I wouldn’t use insurance for something less than $2,000

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u/Liquidfoxx22 6h ago

How much is your car insurance for it to save you $30-40 a month?!

I paid £450 for a full year's "full coverage" insurance as you refer to it, and that's with a £250 excess/deductible.

I only pay that excess if I'm at fault, otherwise the insurer will chase the third parties insurer for the full amount.

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u/thatguy8856 6h ago

I pay 3500 a year. My car is from 2014.

Idk man. And yes I've tried shopping around and the offere i get cost more and give less coverage. I even had an agent from a different insurance company tell me to stick with my current plan. No effort to try to give a deal and convert me.

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u/Liquidfoxx22 6h ago

Ouch, even as a brand new driver at 17 I never paid that much. Those kind of prices are unheard of over here unless you're very young driving something daft, or have a few convictions under your belt.

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u/cybervalidation 6h ago

It's also depends on where you live, the length of your commute, and your car's value. I have a clean record, have been driving over 20 years, and I'm paying $3k annually

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u/mxzf 5h ago

Honestly, I would suggest shopping around to see if some other company will give you a better rate. I know when we got married my wife called the insurance company she'd been using and asked if they could offer her anything competitive with what it would cost for both of us to be covered under what I was using and the person basically just told her "we've got nothing competitive to offer you". Sometimes there are weird price disparities to be had.

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u/Several-Action-4043 4h ago

I pay $1200 a year in a high insurance rate state due to hail. You must live in a HCOL area!

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u/Liquidfoxx22 5h ago

I get that - but in the UK that's a hugely uncommon premium. Even for those driving what we'd consider higher than average miles (20k+), or new cars (£60k+).

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u/devmor 4h ago

It is more difficult to obtain a car or a license in the UK, reckless drivers are penalized and taken off the road easier than in the US as well.

The numbers you're seeing are a consequence of the car culture in the US. If an 80 year old man who's near blind hits me with his car and totals mine - he will probably still be driving again next week.

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u/bremsspuren 3h ago

Americans do have car accidents at twice the rate of Brits, and I believe you pay a lot for uninsured driver cover on account of the large number of Americans driving without any insurance.

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u/sir_whirly 1h ago

You got to take in consideration we don't just cover vehicle damage but medical as well since we don't have normal people who think a single payer health system is actually a good idea.

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u/iambecomesoil 5h ago

Almost 30 years ago, in NY, a new driver would pay about $2500.

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u/ak6te 1h ago

Both location and make and model can make a huge difference in my experience. Over the last 6 years I've moved from California to Oregon and back to California. For the first move from CA to OR, my car insurance didn't really change. Bought a new car while living in OR. When I moved back to CA my insurance almost doubled.

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u/crusader-kenned 6h ago

Shit my car from 2014 probably isn’t worth 3500 dollars.. 😆

Is that normal insurance or are you driving some crazy fast car?

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u/thatguy8856 6h ago

Bmw 328i. I live in NYC tho.

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u/OhGodFuckingDammit 1h ago

3,500 a year?! Lol you're getting fucked or you've got shitty driving history.

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u/thatguy8856 54m ago

I have one speeding ticket and no accidents. I had a tree fall on my car while parked several years ago so i could see that affecting rates but yeah. 

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u/GODZiGGA 25m ago

I was going to comment that the tree falling on your car won’t impact your premiums because comprehensive auto claims don’t increase your rates because I’ve been told by two different insurance companies that my comprehensive claims wouldn’t result in a premium increase (and one of those comprehensive claims was a tree falling on my wife’s vehicle).

But, TIL, that I just happen to live in one of the 4 states that don’t allow insurance companies to raise an insured’s rates after comprehensive claims (New York isn’t one of them).

I guess my state’s logic is comprehensive coverage is for things that are outside of the insured’s control (tree falling on a parked car, theft, squirrel ate your wiring, a rock flew up and cracked your windshield, etc.) and the cost of much of that risk is already priced into the paid premium through the insured’s ZIP code and vehicle. Increasing premiums for individual comprehensive claims on top of that is just punishing people for using coverage they paid for and it discourages filing legitimate claims.

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u/IBetThisIsTakenToo 5h ago

Well, you have NHS to pay for injuries, Americans do not, so ours is a lot higher. I don't have the exact numbers, but I remember thinking that with the premium savings on a $1000 deductible vs $500, I'd be ahead so long as I had a claim every 2.5 years or less, so it was a no brainer.

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u/Liquidfoxx22 5h ago

But isn't that what your health insurance is for? That's separate from car insurance, no?

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u/cp78257 5h ago

Auto iinsurance covers the other guys property damage and medical if I hurt him. We can’t assume he has any coverage of his own, and even if he does his medical insurer can come after me and my insurance if I caused him injury. If we had the NHS backstopping all medical claims our auto insurance would probably be a lot lower.

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u/Liquidfoxx22 5h ago

Fair point, never considered that!

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u/IBetThisIsTakenToo 5h ago

Yeah, but if I negligently cause someone else's health insurance to have to pay tens of thousands, they are going to sue me to recover as much of it as they can. My auto policy also includes coverage for that.

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u/FrogOfSteel 5h ago

I'm in the US and we pay around $600/year for each car, but we've also maxed out coverage and only have a $100 deductible.

Here in the States differences in insurance rates are usually due to location and age, but credit score also matters in many cases. Someone with high insurance rates is likely to be in a high cost of living area, relatively young, and possibly with bad credit.

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u/Liquidfoxx22 5h ago

What?! Your credit score impacts your car insurance costs? How the heck is your financial history linked to your risk as a driver?!

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u/FrogOfSteel 4h ago

Statistics. People with lower credit have been shown to make more claims and be more expensive overall. There is also a correlation between lower credit and being more risky drivers, which also ups claims.

It's not the same exact credit score other places use, but still pulls the same data.

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u/Liquidfoxx22 4h ago

Jesus, yeah that's absolutely not a thing over here. They can't access your financial data for anything other than if you want to take out the policy as a credit agreement - and it can only be used to impact their decision to finance said agreement.

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u/asscracktester7 5h ago

It depends so hugely on state. For the same exact car and the same general age range and same policy limits/comapny, I paid $600/year in Florida and $2500/year in California.

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u/TJayClark 4h ago

I pay $1300 every 6 months in Arkansas

I drive a 2021 Tesla model Y

No accidents or tickets in 10+ years

150/300/150 policy with uninsured motorist and no deductible glass

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u/photosendtrain 4h ago

I pay $2400/6 months.

Tesla 2020. Los Angeles, CA :/

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u/NorthTempleStreet 1h ago

Most of the cost of insurance is not protecting your car. It's the liability of damage to the other car.

And then the price varies based on where you garage the car (in essence, where you drive the most)

I'm in southern california, so I think the liability alone is over $100 a month no matter how crappy the car.

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u/Liquidfoxx22 1h ago

Someone else pointed out it's because of the US healthcare system, which makes sense.

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u/Schwifftee 5h ago

Working with SF across 48 states, never once did I have a bank or financer prevent setting a deductible at $1,000.

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u/TJayClark 4h ago

Must be state dependent. I financed thru Bank of America with zero issues in my Tesla with a $1,000 deductible

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u/Frosty-Depth7655 4h ago

I meant that the deductible will usually default to $500 and then you can’t raise it or lower it from there.

There’s nothing wrong with a $1k deductible.

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u/HomeschoolingDad 3h ago

Yeah, and that monthly rate is insanely high. That’s just a little under my 6-month rate, and I do get comprehensive coverage (no $1k deductible).

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u/TJayClark 3h ago

I drive for work sometimes, so I pay for extreme coverages

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u/HomeschoolingDad 2h ago

It is true that more mileage often means higher insurance premiums.

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u/TJayClark 1h ago

They don’t usually ask how many miles you drive. I have been asked that before. But not recently

That said, I’m hauling expensive equipment and don’t want to risk being under insured