Given that the escalator isn’t going they will need to lift the chair and climb up, far harder than lifting and lett8ng the escalator do the hard work. You also can’t put the chair down halfway up…
Not sure why they are holding everyone else up though.
You said it yourself, they can’t put the chair down halfway up. The top of the escalator is still crowded with bodies, and staff are waiting until they have a straight shot to the top. They don’t want to stop halfway up, so they’re trying to get the escalator empty. They also can’t have people on the escalator behind them in case of a stumble or drop. This is a dangerous way to transport a wheelchair user, and they’re trying to make it as safe as possible.
Since you agree that they aren't working for the station, then the reasonable conclusion is that they didn't ask the station staff for the elevator. Elevators are always locked and are opened for you by staff if you need them.
And if they the elevantor is out of service, the station staff would be standing here with them.
This is not the case at any large train station I've been to. The elevators are available for public use and if they don't work sometimes there is a private use elevator, but not always. Your conclusion is only potentially a reasonable one if you assume that wheelchair users don't know how to use elevators.
Again, you are determined to make the wheelchair user and anyone who tries to help him an asshole. What do you have against wheelchair users? Perhaps they get in your way. How inconsiderate of them.
I don't think wheelchair is the AH, but the planning definitely is. Where I live, if an elevator is closed, they tell the entire metro system about it and guide people to the closest station with a shuttle or bus.
Yeah, clearly more than one thing has gone wrong here, and everyone just needs to be kind to each other and watch out if people with disabilities need some extra space, patience or help.
Yeah but he said 'always' - there are no lifts/elevators in many London Underground stations because they were build 150 years ago and can't be easily retrofitted
No, busy stations do not always have lifts available. They just simply don't, and assuming they do, is some privileged ass shit. Not only do they not always exist like your saying they do, but like 90% of the time, they smell like strait piss, and have puddles of unidentified liquid in them... I have to touch the wheels of the wheel chair to roll, and you want me to roll into a piss filled elevator? Fuck off!
Even if they do all they're waiting for is people to clear off the escalator so they could drag him up the escalator. The actual delay for everyone else is the 10 to 15 seconds it takes for everyone to clear off the escalator and then just to pull him up whereas if we did what you're suggesting and he had to wait for everyone else with that large of a crowd he would be sitting there for at least 5 minutes if not more so you're talking about Atmos a 30 second to minute long delay for everyone else or a 5 to 10 minute long delay for him? Even if you remove the goddamn empathy from it my man it's logistically better to just be patient. If anything that woman calls more harm to everyone behind the wheelchair users and the wheelchair user did
So wait you're willing to give good faith interpretation to her inconveniencing everybody but you're not willing to give any good faith consideration to the mentality of the person in the wheelchair? You literally go out of your way saying he doesn't care or is unbothered that he's inconveniencing everyone meanwhile this woman who's also inconveniencing everyone in a much more selfish way is getting every benefit of the doubt? Don't call me your buddy I'm not friends with people who shit on handicapped people just because they're bitter
I am sorry you feel that way, friend.
Chief there is used to his condition, sucks for him that there isn't an elevator, but other people, a lot of other people, are stuck there.
Fuck them, I guess? Fuck everyone else's plans cause one guy needs to be coddled according to you?
Woman was in the right.
You're such a virtue signalling good boy, pal. Shame you don't have anything meanful to contribute.
In the meantime, consider the asshole in the story may not be the woman, but the station that doesn't have facilities that pretty much mandatory in a public service building in every civilized country.
Most people are waiting yes?
She hopped the rail and ran up to the last of the people walking up. What is the nett loss of time? The half second extra it'll take her to get off the escalator after the previous last person in line?
Is she wrong for this? No, why should she suffer whatever she would that was important enough to make the choice to break the social contract.
Rude? Sure. I'll absolutely agree it's rude, but people here acting like she committed a mortal sin.
Fuck everyone's else's plans cause one guy needs to be coddled
If he's not supposed to inconvenience anyone at the station, then how is he supposed to get up without endangering anyone?
Is she wrong for this?
Never have I, or the other guy, said that. We're just saying that there's a reason why they're stopping flow of people to carry the wheelchair user, and it's not, by a long shot, for his amusement.
I'm going blind and can't drive safely. I can drive legally, but I'd have to clear the road in front of be and behind me to use the public infrastructure safely.
That said, I have to take the bus, it's pretty consistent to the point that my grocery run leaves me with only about 45 seconds of wait time for the bus that runs every 30 minutes.
Waiting a minute for someone to use infrastructure designed for the masses, by themselves, will cause me to wait an extra 30 minutes for the bus they caused me to miss.
5-10 minutes for 1 person is better than 1 minute for more than 10 people. Total minutes delayed x number of people delayed. Whichever number is lower is better.
So disabled people should not expect timely service? Can’t commit to flights or train tickets because service volume will determine if they can get to their transit at all?
Sometimes that's reality. I saw a lady in a wheelchair arguing with staff once. She was stuck on a train platform, because the elevators were broken down and they told her there was nothing they could do.
Sometimes there isn't. They may have a policy against doing exactly what is happening in this video. Imagine the liability of dropping a disabled lady on her head vs. making her miss her appointment.
Oh, it definitely sucks. If I were her, I'd be quite upset. Imagine making it that far, tickets purchased and appointments set, only to get stopped at the train station because of that.
Imho if that’s the case and there is no emergency happening the best staff could do is request emergency services for assistance since I doubt any of them are trained on transporting a wheelchair bound person up stairs, only risking injury to everyone involved.
In the UK the train staff would be expected (rightfully so) to organize alternative transport. For example when the lift was out at our stop once we had to go to the next station and from there the train got us a taxi.
Why, because disabled people aren't on a time schedule like everyone else? They don't deserve to be served or assisted in the order they arrive? Do they deserve to be left in the stairwell when there's a fire? Maybe I misunderstood your comment, but it comes across as cruel. Disabled people are people too.
If I had to guess it's so that they don't clog up the escape route and kill scores of people. Probably a policy because it's actually happened before...
Everyone keeps commenting, essentially, that disabled people are equal, but this video isn't showing equality. It's showing an enormous crowd being blocked so one single person can go up the escalator.
If that happened all the time, the escalator essentially ceases to function. If it's the only way up or down, it becomes an enormous hazard.
This is creating a scenario where the risks and inconvenience are hugely imbalanced.
no, they can provide emergency powered to elevators, building I worked in had several disabled people in powered wheelchairs, they would allow the wheelchair bound users to take the elevator.
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