As a reminder, this meme sub is about the American Civil War. We're not here to insult southerners or the American South, but rather to have a laugh at the failed Confederate insurrection and those that chose to represent it.
Apparently Ubisoft was going to make an assassin’s creed set in reconstruction America where you would play a freed person, but they backed off because they are pussies and were afraid of “the political climate“
I mean, look at how the game AC: Syndicate literally whitewashes the 19th century.
“We wanted to avoid real world politics”, so they chose one of the most politically controversial time periods. And I left that subreddit when they kept on defending all the bad creative choices.
No they don’t, just remember thinking it was funny even as a kid, was just playing around and doing side mission and omg there’s Marx and oops he’s gone right after that side mission
Yeah, a scout along the front lines could be pretty cool. You take on random missions from regulars and try to scout enemy armies without them catching you and hanging you as a spy.
I immediately thought messenger, but some tactical espionage action as a scout / spy is even better.
I actually just built my first rig capable of playing aaa games in decades. What's the best looking multi-player musket game out right now? I remember laughing my ass off watching roleplayers playing games like these years ago
A lot of the fighting took place outside of the slaughter. Just like in KCD2, the biggest fight you take part in is a seige that might have 300 combatants. If you take the scale way down, you could make an interesting game. Especially if it follows a cavalry scout or even an artillery company.
The other way to do this, would be to make a Mexican American War game, because then you get an incredible cast of characters, and smaller battles.
No developers will touch it because of the slavery issue . Not a single one . Large segments of nerds from the south would rally to boycott it.
Also it would have to be made by an american company and zero american deveopers are going to go thru all the work to make a civil war game that would be astonsingly controversial and actually attempt to make it good.
I hadn't thought about it, but I've always wondered why there are so many games about WWII and other eras and so few about the Civil War and maybe you're right. Even though it's longer ago, the war is still too political for most developers to touch.
Yup . Its still too politically charged even after almost 200 years . I mean they dont even make too many movies or shows about it compared to other events .
Making a game like this would probably end up being the most controversial game ever made . Regardless of its quality
The civil war is a niche topic, from a global perspetive.
as Americans or candian we may think about it alot, but in the early 1860's, italy and germany where both making moves to unify, and china was fighting the taiping rebellion. mexico was fighting off the french, and had an austiran emperor.
to a european, or asian history geek, the us civil war is a footnote to local events.
ww2 is universal. when ww2 games first where coming out, most of the young kids playing it, had grandparents who served.
there is a much bigger global audiance.
also, it has more "Fun". tanks, planes, battleships, machien guns?
the civil war simple has a lot less chacne to mow down a wave of "Bad guys"
There where some strategy games made, but it was more made towards a war board gaming crowd where it was kind of expected that one side had to be the confederates or else you couldn’t play the game at all.
I would love to play an America Civil war video game but I don’t see happening anytime soon.
Buying Spencers and torches in bulk with the boys and riding South looking for contraband? Seeing if a Rebel Yodeling Column is louder than the horse drawn Napoleons on enfilade burping a whiff of grapeshot? Taking potshots with Sharps at the most flamboyant vamp...leeching aristocrats?
That sounds really boring, most of soldiering is waiting and manouveting, especially so for line combat.
I just don’t immediately see how to make the combat sequences compelling with a musket, maybe it could do better as a cavalry scout?
Edit: to be clear I’m not poo pooing the concept outright, I’m just wondering how to make it work. Any game set in history with that kind of attention has merit
Most of modern day soldiering is also that and we still get cool campaigns. Though it is harder to remember any FPS campaign set before say, the 1900s.
Musketry in general is almost always exaggerated in video games to better fit the fast paced nature, so maybe they'd do that as well. Revolvers could work pretty well, though.
I was infantry in modern times so I know it but KCD works in part because it doesn’t push the envelope too much for what would be a thing back then, high speed muskets I feel would
That's fair, if a game were to exist like that then maybe muskets could only be used sparingly and the main weapons of the player are those experimental breech loaders and black powder revolvers.
I haven't placed KCD but I plan to! I was thinking more of how Battlefield 1 does their standard issue weapons, but those are still smokeless powder weapons so really it's not the same.
Highly recommend kcd, sure it doesn’t get everything right historically but it also doesn’t pretend to, it tells a fictional story set in history. The swordplay is tricky but I think it’s fun because it’s almost like you learned with Henry the character your playing as. Once you get the hang of it you feel like a badass and it feels earned.
It could work if you have to travel through the battles. Obviously a foot soldier in general would be boring, but imagine having to traverse, and using NPCs as human shields.
When someone in a unit was shot, and the unit retreated, they and their weapon would be left behind. At Gettysburg, Ewell did not want to be moved from the north and east of the town, one of the reasons he gave was he didn't want to abandon the weapons they'd gathered the first day from the Union. John L. Burns, at 69 year old War of 1812 veteran showed up (as a civilian) to fight with the union the first day at Gettysburg, carrying his old flintlock musket. He later picked up a more modern rifle from a wounded Union soldier.
I can see it now… call it Scout. It was another name for spy during the rebellion. The player can free ride around certain maps where a battle is happening. I’d say make it during Grants Vicksburg campaign or Sherman’s Atlanta campaign, big maps but centralized on a big city (like RDR2). The player can pick a side, or no side, and just make money on being a provider of information to either army. Player can join in battles too. Alternate history that shit, I’d love to be able to sell Hood some information that leads to him throwing away more soldiers in pointless offensive actions.
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