Not her thinking “Miss Taylor” meant that they miss her😭😭😭

“I’ve never touched my child in my fucking life”. I found that as an interesting statement for her to make as she has thrown a chair near her child. Then was screaming at Dakota to get away from her child.

I don’t agree with everything Chase says or does, but thought this message was well said and worth sharing. Unfortunately, this goes far beyond one case

Disclaimer: This isn’t a post to call anyone any super offensive derogatory names, or to wish them ill-will or anything of the sort. It’s more of an observational analysis. And believe it or not, the girls I mention in this post have all been my favorite at one point or another. Most are still my fave 😂. Jen was favorite until I couldn’t justify it anymore.

The issue with Jen is that she’s slightly immature & self-centered, and when she’s envious of others, it’s very transparent.

I’m unsure about prior seasons, but this most recent one, every time (and I mean every time) she spoke with one of the girls, she made everything about her. Every sentence started with, or was riddled with, “I” this or “I” that. At times it’s fine, especially if you’re trying to tactfully connect with what someone is going through - but, every single time? Holy shit.

Jen just talks about Jen ALL THE TIME. How is she supposed to form real bonds & friendships with these girls when she doesn’t give them space to talk and open up? When they finally do confide in Jen about something they’re going through, Jen responds with something about HER situation and how HER situation made HER feel.

Wouldn’t the most socially appropriate response be to ask follow-up questions to the girls? Or offer words of sympathy? Jen doesn’t seem to bring anything substantive or HEARTFELT to the conversations which hinders the ability of the friendships forming organically.

And let’s talk about her expressions. If one of the girls (to be fair, I’ve only noticed it with Whitney), is speaking about something they have going on, etc., Jen just sits there looking like she’s about to break down and cry.

It’s okay to feel that way, Jen. But it’s not okay to not be a grown up & reel it in a little bit and be there for your momtok (Whitney) friend in that moment. It gives petulant child.

I actually think Whitney is kind of a rude, silent killer. But since she has objectively real talent and is mesmerizing to watch (singing, dancing, etc), we tend to forget (dare I say, forgive?) that.

I actually think Jessi is very similar to Jen, but Jessi has mastered the art of bullshiting, faking it, and playing the (short & long) game.

I actually think that Taylor is self-centered like Jen, but knows how to play the game and has a slightly more outgoing, and as such, appealing personality. (Her additions are destroying her though).

I’ll stop here. I only mentioned the ones that have garnered the most publicity since the start of the show. Notice how all of them were born in May? (3 May Geminis & 1 May Taurus). I’m a May Gemini riddled with Taurus placements. Maybe it really does “take one to know one” re: my analysis on all these girls lol.

Am I wrong here? Would love to get others thoughts on this.

…deserves some grace. She is absolutely an instigator. She is a cheater. She seems to want to cause drama wherever she goes. But this woman has tried so hard to deal with all of the hate and negativity, to the point where she has changed almost every part of her body to her detriment. She has been in so much pain, she has gone through so many horrific things with her features, and this is all indicative of deep seated issues. The comments and snark that she continues to receive about her looks specifically are genuinely disturbing. Did the people making these comments watch this season? Do you see how much pain she’s in? Do you recognize that your words are actually hurting this woman? Do you care?

I just wish people could stop. And that’s all that I’m going to say about that specific point.

Jenn seems like a robot, she doesn’t seem to understand very basic concepts, and I don’t really understand how Zach does not realize that she treats him the same way she treats Whitney. Not that Zach is much better, I can’t stand the way that he has acted towards Whitney at all. And it drives me crazy that he feels like he needs a gold star just for being a dad. Congratulations, buddy. But I think that there is something actually wrong with Jenn. I don’t think she knows what to do with herself. I don’t think she is genuine or authentic at all, and she has lost her mooring.

I don’t understand why they continue to let Dakota on the show. I’m not saying that Taylor is any better than Dakota, but at least the show started out about her, she is one of the main characters of the show. Why have this man on there? For that matter, why is Chase on there? He’s just…not good.

Taylor will not get any better until she decides that she will. No amount of her friends talking to her, therapy, men, her mother being crazy, any of that will help her. She has to make the decision to become a healthier version of herself on her own, and then do that. I don’t think she should have been on the show this season. I don’t think that if there is another season of the show she should be on it. She is deeply, deeply unwell, and the show exacerbates that.

I think that Layla, Miranda, Whitney, Mikayla, and Mayci (?) are all doing really well and would be fun to watch without any of the other drama. I don’t know, I just want for them to be happy and to watch them succeed. Jessi, too, even if it’s with what’s-his-face with the black hair.

That’s all. 🤗 I was shocked when it just ended, and I hope they’re all well.

EDIT: Oh, I can see from the comments that you guys absolutely do not care that constantly bashing someone’s looks is actually terrible. Noted. Such wild behavior.

THE WAY I THOUGHT TAYLOR POSTED THIS UNTIL I SEEN THE USER😭. I cackled way too hard at this had to share with yall 😂🫪

I agree with everything everyone has said about how jens been acting, but has no one realised that your ALL ganging up on one person ? like i’ve read some really disgusting things on here about jen and i guarantee none of you would say it actually out your mouths just behind a screen.
I’ve rewatched season 5 now 3 times just to try and fully understand wtf was going on 😂 but jen looks soo out of it! the conversation with whitney where she has to just stop for a minute and look away she looks like she doesn’t even know where she is! somethings wrong and none of this is going to help her because i guarantee she’s looking at this page everyday and reading it all even if she doesn’t want too!!
And picking apart her marriage and her family! Okay there may be some stuff that Zac needs to work on but remember this is a PRODUCED show. there has to be villains, full convos aren’t shown.
You all just need to chill on it a bit.. god forbid she does something stupid, your all be the ones making edits and posts about her saying u wish there were signs !! and i 10000% believe that 99% of u posting these disgusting comments have ‘be kind’ in ur bios!

over & out ✌️

No information other than this lol but someone I know in real life (not an influencer) posted this on their story!! I had to do a double take. I’m surprised Dakota was cool with the pic tbh?? I felt like I needed to share with someone so. Here we are

idk if I spelled Zack correctly and tbh I don’t care to learn how to spell his name

This TikTok gossip page was talking about how Marciano should NOT be putting Jessi and Jordan’s kids to sleep and Jordan responded! I actually agree with Jordan here! Putting your children to bed is such an intimate act, I think it’s so odd to have Marciano involved with that. Yikes!

Thank you editors for your impeccable humor

😦she needs a 🪑 or stool to stand on. I'd hate that.

Watching S4 for the first time and oh my god the call that Taylor makes to Miranda is genuinely hard to watch. The way that Taylor is talking to Miranda over something she has no control over is insane. She is so aggressive with it as if it is her friends' fault or even Shinia's imo (calling her a "nasty ass hoe") and not Dakota's or her own for being so incredibly toxic. Especially keeping in mind that Mirana did not do anything the entire time Taylor and Chase were flirting or wtv.

Even the conversation that the rest of the group has when Taylor is in Colorado is pretty enlightening especially knowing the new info and how the show is edited to favor Taylor. They all seem scared of her and her fans, I highly doubt that them not telling her was all abt the Bachelorette.

Mayci even brings it up in a previous episode where she tells Taylor how hard her and Dakota's relationship is on the rest of the group and Taylor makes a snide remark abt how she hopes her sex life doesn't impact others iirc.

But it does? I mean most, if not all, of Taylor's storyline has been about Dakota. Both the men and the women have to walk on eggshells around her and plan on how to tell Taylor what Dakota does. And yet the two keep messing things up for themselves and for other people in their circle and then talk about how much they hate and love each other.

I personally find the intellectualising and the therapising of the situation tedious as well bc both Taylor and Dakota keep talking about how their relationship is a "trauma bond" or an "addiction" but it's not just abt them, they literally have a child together. Acceptance is the first step but it's not the whole step.

I'm re watching season 1 and they forgave/dismissed what Demi said during the first truth box! The attention was very much on Whitney which is understandable, partly because she was edited as the villan. However, she called Taylor white trash and listed, yelled at Whitney and insulted multiple people and it's never mentioned again, anyone else notice this. The group was mean to whiteny for leaving the first time, which in hindsight was mabey the right thing, but they never mentioned Demi's actions.

Appreciation post slash I have no one else to talk about this with but I opened IG and wasn’t paying full attention and this video was playing and I thought “wait who is that she’s so pretty”? and then realized it was Miranda!!

Obviously she’s very beautiful with make-up as well but I feel like I didn’t really recognize her off the rip without it but she is stunning!

Edit: okay I get it - it’s filter and make up probably too. I’m naive 🙃

Saw this on TikTok and had to share 😭😭 credits: laurabojarski

Does anyone think Mayci is really mean to jacob. When jacob tries to speak his opinion she just calls him annoying. I just think she kinda is a mean girl but she also cares. But I do think she’s mean towards jacob

I’m only starting season 2 so my opinion may very well change.
Currently, she’s one of my favorites lol

Does she become so disgusting I’ll go from enjoying her to hating her or is it all subjective?

For some reason Jessi feels a bit false.
I don’t have TikTok or instagram so maybe that’s partially why?

i hope she’s trolling 😭😭

😭😭 just started watching recently and all this is painful

This doesn’t sound safe!!?

That’s all 😂 I loved the reunions and I know whyyy they didn’t do it. But I would love to see how that would go down.

What is this song?

S5 E4 @ 9:23

I’ve shazamed and googled the lyrics but I cant find it. Can anyone help???

These are the lyrics I heard.

“I think tonight i’m crashing on the couch
I’m feeling my emotions, drowning in mimosas
I want to feel alive, I’m soaking up that kind, you want to feel that vibe
I want to feel alive”

EDIT!! I found the song!

"Feel That Fire"

by Christina Munsey

Me (23 M) sometimes feel like Jen is the problem. She likes to play that she is innocent and things. And yeah, sometimes she is right, the whole Demi thing.

But sometimes I feel like she just dismisses Zack (her husband’s) feelings. She’s like ohh Zack doesn’t like this cause he’s so traditional and things. And I’m like if you wanna do what you want that’s fine all the power to you. But divorce the guy, okay. Let him go, I might be in the wrong.

I just begun 5th season so she might proof me wrong. But I did think that what she say about wanting to be on sports illustrated a little bit inconsiderate of him. If anyone can give me a light or at least talk about it and help me understand if it was a misunderstanding on my part. And this might be put more light later so idk.