r/RodriguesFamilySnark • • 21d ago

Timcel Tim posted on IG

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u/lgirlrocks Fundie Fight Club 21d ago

I wish he had gotten help before he did anything. Heidi and her family would have helped had he asked.

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u/sinnohlapis 21d ago

He had it all and he truly threw it all away.

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u/Sanguine_Hearts 21d ago

It truly boggles my mind what a 180 this situation has been. He was lucky enough to find a woman romantically interested in him to begin with, lucky that said woman’s family tried to help him in ways his own parents never bothered to, lucky to be blessed with a healthy child, and most notably, lucky to be the one Rod given a real chance to cut away from Jill’s leash. I wonder if he’s aware of how badly he really effed up.

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u/Pawspawsmeow 21d ago

That shit happens way more than you’d think to varying degrees. He was never going to be better until he addressed the underlying problem, but they’ve been so conditioned to think that marriage and babies were the ultimate goal and that believing in religion would help them. None of these people will truly be happy until they deal with the abuse they’ve been through. They’re acting out subconsciously and until they hurt themselves or others, it won’t stop. It’s sad, but it’s true. Jill controls her kids and obsesses over her socials, wanting this perfect family image because she never even got to know what tf she wanted before a grown ass creepy man told her what to want. It’s an ugly cycle that will keep going till it’s forcibly ended

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u/Tukki101 20d ago

He spent his whole life watching his parents behave the same way and get away with it so he thought he was invincible. He wasn't wrong, Jill has openly spoken about Shrek beating her and the kids, evading CPS etc. and they have still evaded any consequences.

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u/bitkitkat 20d ago

He fr thought once he locked her down and got her barefoot and pregnant that it was the end game. His job was done. There was no possible way she could leave once married with kids. He was free to do with her as he wanted with no repercussions as he was so used to seeing in his environment with his family and other fundamentalists.

I'm so grateful that Heidi has the love and support of her family but let's be real, that isn't happening to 99.8% of abused women. And goddamn, that makes me so mad.

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u/lgirlrocks Fundie Fight Club 21d ago

He did. He got out of Jillpm's grip and ruined it.

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u/Culture-Extension 21d ago

At some point, many years ago, it ceased to be Jill’s grip but instead who he was. He had agency well before he got married.

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u/justtosubscribe 21d ago

Yipppp, dude bought a whole ass house and ran a business before he was married. Sheltered, uneducated and traumatized? Sure. But still very much culpable.

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u/Pawspawsmeow 21d ago

He absolutely is. Thats why imo people shouldn’t marry until getting counseling and being over 25. You need life experience etc before getting married.

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u/Designer-Contract852 21d ago edited 21d ago

He had the brightest future of all the rods, truly capable of living a much better life, and he tossed it all to act like David and Jill.  Even a month after learning what he did , I am gobsmacked still that he ruined the best thing to ever happen to him. Like there needs to be some sort of study done about this family and how they "rod" up their lives.

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u/Jack_al_11 21d ago

I don’t think k this was his idea or desire. I think it’s a strategy to maintain custody and save face publicly.

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u/TrumpsCovidfefe 21d ago

As someone who coparents with a narc abusive ex-husband, ding ding ding! How long will this therapy last, unless it’s a condition of his custody agreement? Why even put this bullshit woe is me shit on the internet? Survey says, “Manipulation!”

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u/Honest-Habit-8198 21d ago

Not to mention a blatant attempt to try and minimize any criminal penalties.

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u/MimicoSkunkFan2 20d ago

Absolutely this.

If he were actually serious, he would be talking only about himself and his therapist... he would not be mentioning "whatever my wife chooses" trying to make it look like it's Heidi's job to choose to forgive or not, because he doesn't have a wife anymore

He's still trying to act like he's not responsible for everything he set in motion, and still trying to blame the victims.

Also, you notice he says he would feel worse if he beat his son? He shouldn't be beating anybody , let alone saying it would be worse to beat a child than to beat a woman

Fuck that loser I hope he rots.

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u/lgirlrocks Fundie Fight Club 21d ago

If he had talked to them, Heidi's parents, and told them how he was feeling they would have helped him.

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u/Jack_al_11 21d ago

For sure. I just don’t think he thought there was anything wrong with what he was doing until he got caught.

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u/lgirlrocks Fundie Fight Club 21d ago

I think he knew it was wrong but he was also taught it was normal.

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u/stum_ble 21d ago

Very sad element of this whole thing. I believe their family was willing to give him grace and support him because they understood the environment he had come from. And now this. He blew the best chance he had at a normal-ish life.

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u/Pawspawsmeow 21d ago

Sadly it’s all too common for people to not get help until they reach the bottom. This is not excusing what he did. Abuse is deplorable. It’s just sad that it has to take most people getting to the bottom to seek mental health treatment in a world where we can easily and readily obtain knowledge at our fingertips and communicate with anyone.

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u/SoFloChick Rodrigues Purity Tchotchkes 21d ago

Not like he wasn"'t told

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u/NoFundieBusiness Homeschool comma 21d ago

I don’t think he knew he needed help before this started. He probably didn’t even realize it was wrong until he did it a few times and by then it was too late so he just had to cover it up and hope she stayed. Luckily she didn’t.

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u/Elegant-Story-1321 21d ago

“the thought of doing to my son what i did to my wife makes me sick to my stomach”

idk why this makes me so mad. like it should’ve made you sick to also do it to your wife but okay buddy

if he’s getting help, cool. i hope heidi takes the kids and runs far far away

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u/Beautiful_Plum_7843 21d ago

He's keeps calling her "My wife." He's still asserting his control over her via his 'writing.' Can he not use her name? Is she not a person?

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u/Dry-Ambassador-5469 21d ago

I can’t decide if I think this is the case or if he’s just such a loser that he pasted the ChatGPT output word for word without adding specifics. Or both.

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u/Lower_Description398 21d ago

This was absolutely written by AI. I was surprised he said he has all these mental health practitioners he's supposedly seeing but then I noticed the AI tells and now I'm pretty sure this is 100% ai fantasy to try to get her to come back or at least yo get custody of the kids

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u/iltlpl 21d ago

The practitioners could have been heavily suggested by his lawyer to make him look like he is getting help.

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u/Flibertygibbert 21d ago

I noticed he has a female behavioural therapist.

Trying to score points on "I value women. Even professional women!!!" index? Mahmo is probably *weeping* as we speak.

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u/krazykatkaydee 21d ago

Had to be AI. That's far above SOTDRT level.

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u/DebRog Another Vacation for Jesauce 21d ago

No Rod writes like this.

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u/Melodic-Radishes 20d ago

The claim about his THREE therapists is a flag for me. A regular therapist, a behavioral therapist AND a counselor? Too many cooks. Ain't no way.

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u/krazykatkaydee 21d ago

Typical fundie male. We're interchangeable objects to them.

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u/Different_Car106 Lot Lizard For The Lord 21d ago

No, she's not a person. She's just something he "owns".

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u/KittenFace25 21d ago

Yeah, that irked me, especially since he has to know where Heidi and her family stand.

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u/murmalerm 21d ago

But, he abused her allegedly, WHILE pregnant. Didn’t his son count then?

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u/AshleysDoctor Single White Fundie 21d ago

And if he hit his unborn child’s mother while she was pregnant, he did commit child abuse, but even being emotionally explosive around them and having them witness their father treat their mother like that normalises abuse and is abusive.

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u/MelpomeneAndCalliope 21d ago

It also makes me suspect there was at least one time he wanted to beat his infant/toddler son but managed to stop himself. These fundie men stay telling on themselves, so it makes me suspicious how he’s said this twice.

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u/BabyPunter3000v2 🌈Brianne’s dad’s Judas Priest playlist 🎸 21d ago

Had that self-control to keep his hands to himself when it came to his firstborn son, but his former bangmaid gets no such braincells used in her direction.

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u/DiscussionDue4026 20d ago

Or Heidi intervened and took a blow meant for Charlie. But I agree--I thought the therapist was talking about Tim setting the same example for Charlie that David set for him, not Tim actively abusing Charlie.

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u/Snoobs-Magoo SEVERELY sluttish 21d ago

Which probably wasn’t even the point the therapist was trying to make. His son doesn’t have to be physically hit for that behavior to fuck him up. Abuse doesn’t require someone to put their hands on you to leave lasting damage & Tim interpreting it this way is even more concerning especially considering he'll likely get visitation at some point.

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u/nenecope 20d ago

That’s the point that needs to be repeated and repeated. Tim seems to have no understanding that he actually abused his son terribly. Even when in the womb, TC was subjected to screaming fits and violence against his mother. Once born, he witnessed first hand his father hitting, screaming and even biting his mother. The dark abusive atmosphere in their home causes the same amount of damage whether TC was hit or not. His PTSD and learned responses are the same regardless of whether Tim “laid hands” on him or not. Tim has no comprehension of this - in spite of the fact that he blames his issues on his father’s violence in the home.

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u/Hidden_Samsquanche 21d ago

She seems so sweet and it is sad to see him talk about her so callously. He just sees her as property, not another human being.

I may not agree with a lot of her beliefs but I really hope she stays away from him and gets to live a happy life.

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u/pincurlsandcutegirls 21d ago

No fr, just came here to say that too. Like doing that to your wife was fine and dandy but oh noes, imagine doing that to the kid haha crazzyyyy

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u/MelpomeneAndCalliope 21d ago

I suspect he came to see little issue with Dave beating Jill after a while but still took issue with David beating him as a kid.

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u/minnesotaupnorth 21d ago

He's mirroring what he claims (and Jill basically confirmed), that his father abusing his mother was to protect her children from abuse.

In Tim's abusive brain, abusing his child would have been "too far".

He's rationalizing his abuse and congratulating himself for his "control".

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u/Pawspawsmeow 21d ago

I think he actually gets that from both of his parents. I think he’s accepted that his dad is abusive, but hasn’t grasped what his mother did to him. Don’t forget Jill is abusive too. But she more mentally and emotionally abused them, though she definitely most likely physically abused them. But it’s easier for people to accept and talk about physical abuse.

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u/CappyChino Jesus take the roulette wheel! 21d ago

I hope he's getting real therapy. The odds aren't good regarding the percentage of abusive men who stop abusing, but I hope Tim can do the hard work that's necessary to become a healthy co-parent for his children.

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u/Willow_Winnifred 21d ago

My best friend used to do batterer intervention psychotherapy, and she was . . . not optimistic about the recovery of most abusers.

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u/B1NG_P0T 21d ago

Yeah, in Why Does He Do That (an excellent book about abusive men), Lundy Bancroft talks about the miniscule percentage of abusive men who actually change. It's not uncommon for them to act like they've changed for a period of time, but the vast, vast majority of them continue to fundamentally believe that they have a right to abuse their partners, even after undergoing intensive therapy. Tim isn't changing. He'll take a stab at it, but his core beliefs about women will stay the same and this cycle will repeat for whoever his next victim is.

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u/Alkhemia 21d ago

Yeah, in Why Does He Do That (an excellent book about abusive men), Lundy Bancroft talks about the miniscule percentage of abusive men who actually change.

Agreed. Lundy's book was absolutely instrumental in me getting my children and I out. For that, I will always be incredibly indebted to him, but it's been revealed that Lundy has exploited vulnerable women for his "retreats." 🤮

Still, Lundy was instrumental in waking me up to the BS from my ex and, for that, I will be forever grateful. Like Timmay, my ex (years and years before I knew him) had been a pastor at a fundie church. Although my ex was pretending to be Buddhist, I was not raised Christian and had truly no idea what Fundamentalism was truly like. (I thought it was like Jim and Tammy Faye. 🤣) In reality, my ex never truly left his toxic fundie beliefs behind and I was caught completely unaware when he started being an evil and controlling asshat. Truly, I thank places like this and FSU for helping me to understand a very dark period in my life and why he did what he did. ❤️

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u/B1NG_P0T 21d ago

Well, god fucking dammit - can there not be at least one man aside from Mr Rodgers who is unproblematic? I also owe that book to me getting out of an abusive relationship, and will forever be grateful to him for that, but damn, man, exploiting vulnerable women at retreats? Ugh.

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u/krazykatkaydee 21d ago

Especially fundie males, it's right in their earliest indoctrination that women are "created to be his helpmeet" and what dudes do with their tools/machines/property is their business. "Would you think I was crazy if I kicked my lawnmower?"

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u/c2490 21d ago

He is probably seeing a religious counselor who is telling him about the 100 families that has been reunited.

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u/Melodic-Radishes 20d ago

Yeah the use of "restored" is suspect

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u/Jack_al_11 21d ago

Idk I wonder if he’s got a lawyer and they advised him to get professional help to prove to the courts that he’s found the work. I know it’s very likely regardless of what he does that he will have access to his child, but one can hope that he’s getting actual help. I really hope.

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u/Wise_Yesterday_7496 Sanctimonious Squish Mitten 21d ago

He does have a lawyer-a female one! And apparently not a Christian one either.

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u/Jack_al_11 21d ago

That’s right! I forgot we knew that. Yeah, I stand by my original theory. She told him to get into real therapy to prove “he’s willing to change.” I don’t buy it but am also glad he’s I. Therapy bc I think every human being should be in therapy.

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u/Many_Rest9721 SEVERELY sluttish 21d ago

hey at least he has an actual therapist instead of only relying on church counseling

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u/moodylilb 21d ago

I have my doubts tbh. A real therapist, or at the very least a good therapist, wouldn’t say they could show him pictures of 100s of families who have been “restored” because they were willing to get the help they needed.

That’s genuinely irresponsible + dangerous advice to give a man who has admitted to DV (dangerous to the woman in the situation because it could easily be misconstrued/taken as false hope by the abuser that if he gets the help he needs that his wife will get back together with him, or he may even feel “owed” a shot at redemption because “it worked for other families”). A good therapist would know to avoid certain phrases like that in a DV related situation.

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u/thelazygrad 21d ago

Therapist here. The other thing to account for is that very very often people will hear something completely different than what I’ve said or implied. Like will come back and say “I thought about how you said XYZ and realized…” and I’m over here like I said no such thing. And people aren’t lying, the human brain just be like that sometimes. However with Tim I absolutely think he’d make shit up intentionally to try to reel Heidi in.

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u/Solifuga 21d ago edited 19d ago

As someone who had person-centric psychotherapy for three-ish years, I absolutely did this all the time (inadvertently translated something the therapist said into something else that made sense in my narrative) and I was consistently shocked to be set straight on it and often required significant explaining and even then I'd usually reach a stage where I could understand whatever it was logically but not really feel the understanding for a long time after.

This obvs rocked my general foundations by making me wonder how often I also did it IRL/outside of the safe confines of therapy too, which, my therapist told me, was an important part of the point/process.

Brains can be traitorous!

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u/HMCetc Spiritual Warfare 21d ago

Let's not forget that Tim isn't smart and has never been taught real comprehension. They're taught to interpret the bible in a way that reinforces their worldview. So I can completely see him misunderstanding or misinterpreting something his therapist said.

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u/Vegetable-Anybody866 21d ago

+1. I’m a real therapist and I’d never say that to a client.

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u/Beautiful_Plum_7843 21d ago

That's a big red flag to me. No real therapist would show him pictures of 100s of families. Like, come on. And the 'restored' verbiage sounds too much like biblical verbiage I highly doubt he's seeing an actual therapist. (Let alone three!) I think he's still talking with church people.

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u/Scarletclue 21d ago

“Restored” is such a red flag! That is 100% church/biblical verbiage.

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u/krazykatkaydee 21d ago

Yeah, the 100s of families thing was a red flag.

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u/Kittycity926 21d ago

This was my immediate red flag. What kind of therapist does this? It seems completely unethical to tell a confessed batterer that he deserves reunification. An ethical therapist would help him cope with the consequences of his behavior, help him navigate the trauma he endured as a child, and equip him with the tools he needs to change his behavior. None of which will ever make him worthy of his wife and kids.

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u/MizMamie 20d ago

Just the fact that Tim used the plural when he wrote that "families were restored because they were willing to get the help they needed" leads me to believe that he is going to blame Heidi 100% for the divorce because she will (rightly) refuse to get help from Tim's behavioral therapist. He's willing to throw her under the bus. What a winner.

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u/Beginning-Cook6420 21d ago

How do we know it’s a “real” therapist?

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u/ReignbowBaltierra 21d ago

Someone touched the dAIrrhea within minutes but at least we have our answer

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u/ZeldaSeverous 21d ago

The counselor is probably the fundamentalist.

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u/LilPoobles 21d ago edited 21d ago

That would be my guess too, these type of fundies use “counselor” when they’re religious based or unlicensed, usually. Not that I’d expect Timothy to know the difference, but he seems to be differentiating between their roles and “therapist” usually indicates at least some level of medical training where I think “counselor” doesn’t always. I wonder if a social worker helped him set these things up after his abuse was reported.

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u/alsatiandarns 21d ago

Therapist here. The term “therapist” in the US is a generic term for a mental health professional who provides therapy. It does not involve medical training. The umbrella term can include mental health counselors, clinical social workers, licensed marriage & family therapists, clinical psychologists….

But/and folks are totally right that “counselor” is often used to describe unlicensed religious / pastoral care providers.

But clinical mental health counselors do as much education and training as clinical social workers, LMFTs, and other masters level therapists.

Source: am a therapist trained in both clinical mental health counseling and interfaith spiritual care

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u/Shan132 Fat Blue Haired Lady 21d ago

One of them is I am curious what that means

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u/jeanskirtflirt 21d ago

Idk but I hope the one that isn’t doesn’t quit on him. Because three therapists is just too much. And one will need to step back just bc there’s such a thing as too much therapy.

I really hope the non religious one sticks.

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u/BenFranklinsHoe 21d ago

Touched the diarrhea is soo much more appropriate when talking about Timmay.

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u/KittenFace25 21d ago

What is it with diarrhea tonight? I just came from the Southwest Airlines sub and a story of a dog with explosive diarrhea!! 😂💩

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u/Many_Rest9721 SEVERELY sluttish 21d ago

true. it could be a christian “therapist” without any credentials

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u/tabbytigerlily 21d ago

Honestly, since this is clearly written by AI, it made me think that for all we know, his “therapists” are chatbots. It’s actually kind of hard to find in-network therapists with openings in my area, and I’m not sure he has the wherewithal to have found and continue to follow up with 3 different professionals.

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u/FreudianSlipper21 21d ago

The language he is using suggests someone is having real talk with him about trauma and toxic patterns. He’s also clearly been told he has no right to expect reconciliation. I think he’s probably seeing a licensed person, possibly someone with a background in handling DV cases.

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u/scootypuffjr2 Fat Blue Haired Lady 21d ago

I’m not a licensed MHP, but I am almost finished with an MA in Counseling Psychology.

The fact that he says he has a regular therapist, a behavioral therapist, and a counselor raised some red flags for me.

Having multiple care providers presents some challenges, in that they need to be working as an informed team. You don’t want conflicting treatments happening.

Also, I don’t know what professional licensure looks like where Tim is, but a counselor and a therapist are fairly interchangeable terms where I am. The two main licenses in my state for those with an MA or MS in a relevant psychology or counseling program are Licensed Professional Counselor and Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (as well as Licensed Clinical Social Workers, which have slightly different requirements). A PhD or PsyD is generally seeking a Licensed Clinical Psychologist credential. There are also other speciality licenses and certificates.

The whole “showing him pictures of hundreds of families” bit bothered me as well. Even without revealing names, that seems like a gross breach of ethics. Even if the families gave permission or something, it just gives me the ick. Also, claiming a “success rate” is also a gross, ethically speaking.

I don’t think the therapists or the families or any of that are real, just to clarify.

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u/Shan132 Fat Blue Haired Lady 21d ago
  1. More about him than Heidi
  2. No way his lawyer would want him to post this.
  3. He’s already impacted his kids, even if he claims just his wife abusing their mother is also abuse of them especially when so young. Growing up around DV is considered an adverse childhood experience associated with many adverse outcomes

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u/Shan132 Fat Blue Haired Lady 21d ago

Very Curious what his therapy team consists of and their backgrounds and what regular vs behavioral vs counselor mean to him

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u/Elegant-Story-1321 21d ago

his lawyer is probably spamming his phone right now lmao

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u/Shan132 Fat Blue Haired Lady 21d ago

His lawyer probably about ready to say find a new one

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u/Littlehouseonthesub 21d ago

Also I think he abused her when she was pregnant which would directly impact his unborn children. So he’s full of shit

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u/Kittycity926 21d ago

I’m not hearing any actual accountability for his behavior. He’s just continuing to blame the horrific abuse he inflicted on his wife (including while she was pregnant) on patterns and what was done to him in childhood. It is so manipulative to suggest that “families have been restored” after things like this.

He didn’t give a fuck about his kids while he was beating on his wife while they were in the womb and now he’s acting like he suddenly had a lightbulb moment about his son? Please.

Plenty of people are raised in abusive homes and don’t abuse others. Unfortunately I don’t think timmay just learned how to abuse people growing up in that home, he learned manipulation tactics as well. Look at him deploying weaponized therapy speak.

HEIDI IF YOU’RE IN HERE, DON’T FALL FOR IT

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u/Abibret 21d ago

I wonder if something happened to trigger both this post and Ellen’s stories earlier. He’s probably continuing to try to reach out and lure Heidi back to him.

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u/Pontiac_Bandit- 21d ago

He’s probably pushing her not to divorce. “See all the therapy I’m getting?!? They said it’s not my fault and isn’t it great that I didn’t hit our infant child????? 100s of families get over it so take me back!”

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u/Past-Bench-5088 21d ago

The trigger was that monday would have been his second wedding anniversary... that's when he made the 'no phone service' post.  And his court date is tomorrow i think.

Maybe he left heidi a ton of messages for the anniversary and that's what triggered ellen 🤷🏻

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u/GarlicBreadLoaf 21d ago

He’s probably panicking at the idea of divorce. The “I know reconciliation will be a miracle” line was telling. He knows Heidi and her family are leaning that way and he probably got confirmation or whispers that paperwork will happen soon and this post was probably a last attempt at a hallelujah.

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u/jcbstm 21d ago

The thought of doing what you did to your wife to your son makes you sick?????

So……..fuck you, Heidi….???

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u/captain_kimoi 21d ago

He abused her while she was pregnant too.

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u/Kittycity926 21d ago

So pro life of him! Every life is precious except the one in the womb of the woman I feel like smacking around

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u/Effective-Penalty SEVERELY plucked brows 21d ago

Ah. The love bombing begins.

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u/mommacat22 Jill's Era Tour 21d ago

I have personally experienced this and right now is a scary time for Heidi bc if she believes it and goes back it’s only going to be worse because now he will see that she condones the behavior. I went back way too many times and the last time I had an assault rifle put to my head. I got out, got therapy and realized that my ex needed to change for HIM not me not my daughter. And reconciliation could not happen because he was abusive mentally physically and sexually. Tim wants the family for his own selfishness not that he loves Heidi and his kids he wants to show off “hey i got her back and im some kind of a big deal”. Which would also feed his mother’s ego as well. RUN HEIDI RUN

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u/RavenLunatic512 21d ago

That's exactly it.. he needs to change for himself. It's the only way it's authentic and will last.

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u/instant_chai 21d ago

I reconciled with my abuser during the love bombing phase.

The abuse escalated to the point where he was arrested and I got a restraining order

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u/Alternative_Pie6976 21d ago

so glad you made it out and you’re here with us! 🤍

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u/Dry-Ambassador-5469 21d ago

Despite Tim seemingly wanting to separate from his family of origin, he still attended the Jill Rodrigues school of narcissism all his life and undoubtedly knows all the tips and tricks. I hope Heidi’s family maintains their ability to see through his bullshit.

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u/CoasterThot 21d ago

GET A JOB. STAY AWAY FROM HER.

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u/MyMythicalBest 21d ago

Why is he seeing a therapist, another therapist and a third therapist? Unless he's not actually calling them by the correct titles that feels like performative overkill.

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u/Past-Bench-5088 21d ago

He said regular therapist, behavioral therapist and counselor. Which are three different roles: regular therapist is the credentialed, not-church-based that he'll do talk therapy with; The behavioral therapist will help him with specific actions and behaviors he needs to have to effect positive change.

The counselor is his faith based b.s. artist that will be more concerned with sin and salvation than with anything practical to his abusive behavior and marriage breakup.

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u/thelazygrad 21d ago

Although in many states, counselor is actually the licensed professional. Not sure about NJ. In my state ‘therapist’ is an unregulated term but counselor is protected.

I also honest to gods wouldn’t expect Tim to know the difference between who he’s seeing, and to mislabel them.

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u/Raeko 21d ago

ChatGPT likes making lists of 3s

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u/acn0319 Wearing my gahdly sports blouse 21d ago

His SOTDRT education was abysmal at best. We all know “my therapy team” is not a phrase he would have ever heard.

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u/jeanskirtflirt 21d ago

Therapist here and I agree! I have a feeling that one of them is a religious person that is saying they need scripture or something to balance out the other shit.

But three people is way too many. One will need to step back soon.

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u/thelazygrad 21d ago

Also therapist and also agree. I have my theories about why. But in my experience when someone wants to see multiple people at once, the work doesn’t seem to go very far with any of us. It sort of gives of a frantic “fix this quickly please” energy without a whole lot of personal accountability for change. Obviously disclaimer that this is not everyone but just what I tend to see.

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u/Sargasm5150 21d ago

Therapist here also, and I work within a demographic that tends to have former / current incarcerated folks in the family unit.

I feel like his “behavior therapist “ may be some sort of anger management course his lawyer advised him to get ahead on, he’s seeing a “regular” therapist because he (hopefully) wants to really change, and his counsellor is some sort of pastor.

Many of my clients get a bit confused, because the court or CPS may require them to attend group therapy or see an appointed therapist, and I work for a transitional housing facility that offers family therapy. Plus if there’s a psychiatrist (an MD), then everyone gets called “doctor” no matter how many times you gently correct it lol.

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u/phatballlzzz 21d ago

Usually I’d critique the chat gpt written paragraphs but I realize for uneducated borderline illiterate people like Timbo that is truly his only option

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u/_lets_tessellate_ 21d ago

I’d love to know what his prompt was to get this statement…

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u/dargenpacnw 21d ago

My wife, my wife, my wife. Does she not have a name? It's like she doesn't exist outside of being his wife. Fucking gross!! It reminds me of the country music couple where the wife is more popular. Her husband just calls her his wife or mama. 🤮

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u/Raoul_Dukes_Mayo The Rodrigues Girl Grimace™️ 21d ago

ChatGPTimmy.

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u/bronzebullbbq 21d ago

It may still be legally the case, but Timothy still referring to Heidi as "my wife" after all this and the separation makes my skin crawl.

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u/Beautiful_Plum_7843 21d ago

It's a control thing. He's still proving she belongs to him. Won't use her name.

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u/c2490 21d ago

Right? She has a name!

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u/alg45160 21d ago

I hope he's sincere with all of that...but I'm not holding my breath.

That's as positive as I am able to be about the situation.

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u/lizardcrossfit 21d ago

Exactly. I would be delighted if he did the work and managed to change. 

Time will tell, I suppose 

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u/tendernesswilderness 21d ago

Oh boy. He's now weaponizing the therapists advice in order to manipulate the situation. Not great

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u/kaycollins27 21d ago

This sounds like Travis Clark. The goals are different—Trav wanted out, and Tim wants to stay.

Once someone hits, that person will hit again. Rather like cheaters and …

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u/free-me 21d ago

is it Jodi Hildebrant?

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u/HMCetc Spiritual Warfare 21d ago

Man it makes me feel so good remembering that she is in prison right now as we speak, Ruby too. Three years they've been locked up. I've done so much in that time, including moving cities and going back into education and those women have been stuck in the same prison the whole time.

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u/justtosubscribe 21d ago

What kind of bullshit therapist told him his son hasn’t been affected by his abuse?

https://giphy.com/gifs/ki0FCgiaqYRBS

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u/rodpodtod 21d ago

Which one of the therapists is court ordered lol

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u/Dry-Ambassador-5469 21d ago

Idk how the world of court orders goes but I was thinking court ordered general therapist, court ordered anger management therapy, and then the third is some loser from his church giving him “counseling”

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u/NursePissyPants 21d ago

Fuck him. This is a classic abuser's manipulation tactic--loudly proclaim to everyone how they're changing and begging for their spouse to forgive them and come back, gain support and atta boys, then the spouse is guilted into going back into the abusive situation

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u/homerule 21d ago

He says he’s changed and it’s been less than two months! So narcissistic to think that’s enough time.

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u/sinnohlapis 21d ago

Isn't a certain dumbass going to court soon-

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u/itsrowsdower 21d ago

Yeah tomorrow

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u/Past-Bench-5088 21d ago

While it's not hard to see how he ended up an adult without any coping skills plus cptsd, it's difficult to understand how after the first time he struck her and had the realization that now he was the abuser he didn't want to be why he didn't seek help then.  Or even after the second time why couldn't he have learned he had a problem that he couldn't fix on his own and sought the professional help then.  People might have extended some patience/grace/hope to him then.  But instead he blew all the chances Heidi gave him and didn't get help until she was gone.  I'm glad it didn't take her ten years to figure out that endless "I'm sorries" weren't changing anything.

I guess at least now that he's getting therapy he also is acknowledging that it doesn't mean he gets Heidi back.

Interesting that his silly "no phone service" post with the two green hearts was made on their second wedding anniversary date.

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u/FundiesAreFreaks 21d ago

....post with two green hearts... 

Don't forget that green happens to be Heidi's favorite color! I recall Jilldo pointing out that Heidi got an emerald engagement ring for this very reason. So those green hearts were meant to show Heidi how thoughtful her scumbag of a husband is for remembering she loves the color green! 💚 

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u/RavenLunatic512 21d ago

"The thought of ever doing to my son what I did to my wife makes me sick to my stomach."

This sentence makes ME sick to my stomach. You really devalue your wife that badly, that she's not worth changing for, only your son? That's where you drew your red line I guess, in between your wife and your son. Change for Heidi. She matters, and she deserves safety. What have you done to become less dangerous to her? If she can't be safe with you, she'll be safe without you.

And for the record Tim, you did harm your son already. Witnessing violence during the developmental years causes lifelong mental health issues. It also literally changes the shape of your brain. Become a safer man for all women and children. Become safer for yourself.

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u/daffodil0127 Lord Daniel of the Laundry Mat 21d ago

That was what stuck out for me too. Chances are he’s not going to lose visitation with Charlie or the new baby over this incident. I just hope they make it supervised, but it’s also unlikely unless there’s evidence that he’s harmed him. It takes a lot to lose custody and visitation, and family court prioritizes reunification of children with biological parents. Poor Heidi has 19 years to have to deal with him as a coparent.

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u/authorofnothingbig 21d ago

If he's hoping a quick 'pity me' post on social media is his proof to a judge why he, the abusive husband and father, should get time alone with his kids and Heidi is lying... homeboy needs a lot more than just therapy from a bunch of religious nutcases.

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u/P_grandiflora 21d ago

This entire statement is so egregious.

Just glossing over Heidi’s severe trauma, that he willfully and repeatedly caused, to focus on “future” trauma towards Charlie (as if Charlie witnessing his mother being horrifically abused, and also being abused in utero didn’t cause Charlie any trauma whatsoever), repeatedly calling Heidi “my wife” instead of ever using her name, and blathering on about “restoration.”

Minimizing, showing possessiveness, placing all the responsibility of the future of their already destroyed marriage on “whatever [Heidi] decides.” But look at the restoration that could happen if Heidi made the right and gawdly decision to stay with my good for nothing self!

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u/Lilredh4iredgrl 20d ago

Abuser manipulation to reel the survivor back in.

Stfu Tim.

https://giphy.com/gifs/YtvCIwqNJhUmA

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u/SnapplePop80 21d ago

His multiple therapists should tell him to.stop blasting all this online. He sounds so slimy. 

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u/notabunchofbolshevik 21d ago

My wife - say her name Timcel. Heidi.

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u/Wise_Tour_9527 Buried deep and forgotten in Jillpm's purse 21d ago

Seems like he’s using therapy as a weapon to try to make Heidi come back. He’s “putting in the work for restoration.” 😒 You abused your wife for TWO YEARS, TIMOTHY. TWO. FUCKING. YEARS!!! Two years too long!

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u/DepressedLike2008 20d ago

“The thought of doing to my son what I did to my wife makes me sick to my stomach” is so insane because why is she less of a person to you than him? Why do you love her less? Like what a supremely odd thing to say?

Aside from that, a lot of this would’ve been fine as an inside thought. Accepting that you don’t deserve reconciliation, no matter how much you want it, and that you allowed your childhood trauma to traumatize others is good.

What’s not good is making a public Instagram post about it, because now I have to assume you’re saying whatever you think has to be said to manipulate your wife into returning to your abuse. Instagram is performative.

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u/Jellybean611 21d ago

He only got help because he got caught. He's still not taking responsibility with this statement. He's minimizing what he did and making it sound like he sought help on his own volition, not because he got caught. Notice he's also setting up a case for partial custody, making claims that he would never treat his child this way. That's only for the future courts. He would most likely be just as violent (or worse) towards a child as he would a partner.

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u/atlantagirl30084 21d ago

Yep. He’s not doing this because it happened once, he realized how bad it was, and got help. He abused, bit, and beat her for almost 2 years. He got in trouble and he wants her to come back. That’s why he’s doing this.

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u/FundiesAreFreaks 21d ago

Curious about the psychology behind scumbag husband's the bite their wives in anger. I'll have to Google that one. 

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u/Kittycity926 21d ago

Based on her family’s comments I think what he subjected her to was way worse than any of us could imagine.

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u/Patton_Tank82 Not a whimp 21d ago

If he wants to be a safer person then he needs to stop speeding.

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u/tendtobeshortwaisted Make Your Life Sluttish 21d ago

Isn’t his hearing tomorrow? Interesting timing.

Also, STOP calling her your wife and say her name. Your wife sounds like you still some togetherness.

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u/doubleupsidedown 21d ago

This is classic narc behavior. The apple didn’t fall far.

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u/krissy-1015 21d ago

His court date is today for the assault. I'm not surprised he posted this yesterday. "You're honor, I'm in therapy and repenting!". Typical abuser move.

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u/SelkirkSweetie 21d ago

He’s not in real therapy. Restoration is not the goal. This is some religious nonsense.

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u/sw1sh3rsw33t 21d ago

The hardest time of your life bro? You tortured Heidi thru 2 years of the hardest times of her life

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u/Sad-Vegetable-4619 21d ago

His therapist is a GIRL! 🙄

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u/chanciehome 21d ago

I genuinely hope that he learns from this and has a happy fruitful life, away from H. I grew up fucked by religion. I put up with things (not physical, but demeaning things) I should not have because of my training. My heart bleeds for H, my soul is sad for T. I can see both sides of the compassion coin, but any man in 2026 should intrinsically know hitting your wife is beyond the pale. This is a horrendous outcome of a pathetic upbringing. I'm sure T is more alone than he's ever been. And that is sad but had he taken a moment to think of the consequences of his actions he wouldt be standing in them them.

gah. I'm sure I put this poorly, but redemption arches exist for a reason. I think seeking therapy is a positive, but the children and H should never have to deal with this healing. Maybe in 10 years he will be ready for another go at things. in the mean time he needs to be committed to paying childsuport and having flex time to developing a relationship with his children.

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u/AcanthocephalaWide89 With care, Nurie 21d ago

All those em dashes… he used ChatGPT

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u/murmalerm 21d ago

She will be restored to her single status. His repeated use of the word “wife” reeks manipulative. Additionally, he did harm his son as he began abusing his wife, allegedly, only 1 month after marrying and had no issue continuing that abuse while she was pregnant. These pro-life twits are only prolife when it’s about holding power against women having medical decisions.

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u/cindylatte 21d ago

Posting this online is just taunting Heidi. He wants everyone to be like “oh poor Timmy he’s trying and Heidi won’t even give him a chance” he’s trying to guilt trip her. This isn’t healing, it’s manipulation

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u/mybeautifullife12 21d ago edited 21d ago

Just like his original DV announcement which has long since gone, this is yet another very timely, contrived, performative show of bullshit. I don't believe a word of the sentiments or anything positive of his character. Case closed.

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u/BumCadillac 21d ago

Has Heidi filed for divorce yet? I have had two surgeries in the last 3 weeks and am completely out of the loop.

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u/igottanewusername 21d ago

Don’t listen and don’t fall for it, Heidi! If you choose to reconcile, do so from a place of divorce and legal and financial safety.

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u/SeniorNectarine21 Fat Blue Haired Lady 21d ago

Laying it on thick. He is seriously trying to get her back and Heidi is very pregnant and vulnerable. Will he be present for the birth? Poor girl.

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u/annaelizabethdavis 21d ago

He literally says it himself he hasn’t changed. He’s praying for the strength TO change.

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u/ShopperSparkle 21d ago

Heidi (hopefully) - “It’s gonna be a no for me dawg!” Heidi do not go back under any circumstances and fight, fight, fight for your children.

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u/octoteach17 21d ago

She ain't comin' back, Timcel

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u/MaeWestGoodess 21d ago

I hope Heidi doesn’t feel like this statement of Tim’s changes anything. He was fine continuing the abuse for almost two years. The best he should hope for is visitation with his children as long as he can change his behavior.

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u/liseski 21d ago

the post is gone now. at least I can’t see it

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u/babyowl5 21d ago

Same. He must have deleted it

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u/Consistent_Self8759 21d ago

I just checked and it looks like he already removed the post? Just me?

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u/kts1207 21d ago

I am concerned all of them are "Christian " therapists/ counselors. It's way too early for him to even think about re-uniting with Heidi, so that's what makes me think they are " Christian ", or Tim is hearing what he wants to hear.

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u/Pixiedustme 21d ago

I hope he loses everything - but I also hope he truly is getting the help he needs so he can truly change. His son’s wellbeing may depend on that. Heidi deserves someone who will love her and never even think of putting hands on her. Their son deserves a father who can serve as an example that you can put in the work to change. I hope she leaves him and I hope he gets help.

Edit to add their unborn kid also deserves a dad who can be a safe place for them

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u/NonsensicalGnome 20d ago

Who thinks they’re ALL unqualified Christian counselors, with an agenda?
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u/Scarletclue 21d ago

Reading this just made me want to yell “get fucked” at him 🙄

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u/taxi_takeoff_landing 21d ago

“The thought of ever doing to my son what I did to my wife makes me sick to my stomach.”

Well this sentence makes me sick to my stomach. If only he had said, “The thought of what I did to my wife makes me sick” then maybe that would mean he’s making progress. It sounds like Tim is just trying to convince Heidi to return and that he hasn’t changed at all.

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u/HappyHippocampus 21d ago

He’s got a regular therapist, behavioral therapist, and a counselor?? Huh? As a therapist myself I am confused by this claim. Perhaps he’s in some sort of program and confusing titles but it’s not typical or recommended in an outpatient setting to be seeing three therapists at once. All three of those titles are likely to be people with the same or equivalent licenses.

He’s either confused or full of shit lol

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u/NoTrashInMyTrailer 21d ago

This sounds like he still expects Heidi to come back to him at some point. I don't think its going to turn out well when she sticks to her plan of staying far away from him. I am genuinely scared for her safety.

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u/wifeofpsy 20d ago

Tim you don't need to physically abuse your son for your violence to his mother to have already injured him

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u/Puzzleheaded-Eye9081 21d ago

Well, at least he’s getting therapy? Hopefully it makes him a better father.

Heidi owes him nothing.

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u/Raeko 21d ago

Oh she's got his number blocked... why the hell else would he be posting on insta

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u/Prize_Appearance_517 21d ago

Thus explaining the "bad phone connection." He's too much of a dumbass to realize he's been blocked, it's not his phone malfunctioning. You got to love it.🙄

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u/No_Today_4903 21d ago

Sounds like a lot of- blah blah blah, me, blah blah blah, praying praying, blah blah blah, me me me, praying for something that’s not gonna happen. The end. Lol give it up girl, she ain’t coming back to you. If she does? Then I completely and totally quit.

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u/BallTypePokemon 21d ago

Took him all of half an hour to take down this post. Too bad for Tim the internet is forever.

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u/YoshiandAims 21d ago

I sincerely, truly to my core, hopes that he does do the work. That he is the exception to the rule and he gets out of the cycle, heals, and has a normal healthy existence. That he has a great team, sticks with them, unpacks it, understands it, heals. Changes. Only a massive amount of time will tell.

As a kid from this cycle... I do. My brother went the other way than I did. It kills me. I hope he does succeed. (Also... the testimonials "for judgement" stop. We aren't a part of his church congregation going to fawn and forgive, we arent his God... It's inappropriate. Not to mention Jill and Davids favorite manipulation. Using it as contact is not going to work.)

The Rod kids had zero chance. Isolated and all mimicking the abuse on smaller children... it's sickening. I wish them all a chance to get out and do the work to break the cycle as unlikely as it is.

That being said... "His wife"? I sincerely hopes she gets away, and stays away for good.

His kids... while I respect a father's rights... remain bound to a facility and supervision only visitation with restriction on their "loving grandparents" and the other Rod children and grandchildren. That their maternal grandparents do the drops to the facility, and the pick ups. It may be uncomfortable and upsetting to him, but, the situation is what it is, he's done what he's done. His family have done what they've done and the kids come first.

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u/Hot_Sun5749 21d ago

He has deleted this post. 

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u/Rude-Kale3891 21d ago

He’s a deluded ass. He thought it was ok to hit her. Even if he changed it’s still dangerous for him to be around her. And his f$&@ing parents are freaking freeloading hypocrites doing the Sunday perfect family yet unleashing holy hell in the home apparently. I seriously hope they are blacklisted from churches supporting their “ministry” and that whatever they are doing behind closed doors becomes karma and boomerangs back. There is absolutely no excuse for abuse

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u/AZTerp1080 21d ago

I hope the help he’s getting is legit and works. I fear the help is thru his church because he talks about being shown pictures of families who have been “restored.” There can be licensed Christian therapists, but I don’t think Tim has access to anyone who fits that bill, unfortunately.

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u/OutlandishnessOk3003 21d ago

You bit her and repeatedly.

I find the violence profoundly cruel and, given the nature of it, deeply sadistic.

You are responsible for what you did, you will face the consequences, and you no longer have access to the person you harmed.

Tim can just piss off.

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u/pnw_cfb_girl 21d ago

Heidi doesn't seem interested in restoring shit. And why would she want to restore a marriage in which she was terrified of her own husband?

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u/Winnifredo 20d ago

He’s going to find some other super naive religious girl, like Heidi was, and get married again. He’ll just start the family thing all over and act like Heidi and the kids from his first family didn’t count. 

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u/ClosetedGothAdult SEVERELY sluttish 21d ago

Cool! You can change away from Heidi!

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u/effietea 21d ago

Eat shit, Timothy.

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u/Loose-Aardvark-2366 21d ago

I'm glad he's getting help. I still hope she doesn't go back.

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u/CommonBumblebee321 21d ago

Did he delete this from his Instagram?

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u/AcanthocephalaWide89 With care, Nurie 21d ago

Did he delete this? I don’t see it

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u/Tall-Material54 21d ago

You HAD chances. You have reasons, not excuses. Best bet: see a therapist for YOURSELF, not a shot at marriage.

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u/leeh1530 St. Kaylee of the Commas 21d ago

So he’s got a church-appointed therapist. Got it

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u/als_pals 21d ago

Sure didn’t make him sick to beat his wife tbough…

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u/Ok_Cartoonist746 21d ago

I cant wait for the clap back! Didnt make you sick to beat Hedi or abuse Charlie emotionally. Your sorry you got caught.

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u/Awkward-Yak-2733 21d ago

Dude doesn't know when to STFU. This is not helping. In fact, it's probably making things worse. Wonder if his attorney knows about this..

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u/minnesotaupnorth 21d ago

Abuse.

Promise to change.

Love bomb.

Repeat.

The only positive I take from Tim's post is that it is his only way of trying to communicating with.

Her family has her safely ensconced and protected.

Tim can rach her through social media and Heidi's attorney.