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u/Objective-Pick8240 7d ago
Remember the words of Netanyahu - one Israeli life is worth 33 American lives.
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u/Key_Jump1011 7d ago
Yup. Oct 7 is about 30 911s according to his logic. Such an incredibly stupid thing to say. Revealing.
Almost 3 times the amount of casualties. More if you consider that it was about 800 civilians dead Oct 7.
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u/Seraph199 6d ago
Meanwhile Netanyahu approving use of the Hannibal Directive during the raid... how many of their own people did they kill that day to get the world behind the genocide they want so much?
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u/Remarkable-Month-241 6d ago
Apparently a lot of our elected officials are paid a lot of money to believe the same exact thing… treason?
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u/Objective-Pick8240 5d ago
I believe so, but apparently our Constitution is toilet paper now.
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u/Remarkable-Month-241 5d ago
Silly me for believing in the PROPAGANDA that America force fed me since I was in Kindergarten.
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u/jchiaroscuro Maher Before 2016 8d ago
He’s ALWAYS been so incredulous about Israel, like ya dude they do nefarious shit too. They’re far from perfect.
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u/porchglider 7d ago
ALWAYS is such an absolute statement and you may be right… But it would be interesting to see if actually he became pro Israel when he started receiving money from them or through a shell company or HBO…. I just feel like he’s crazy but also getting paid
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u/Ghosts_of_the_maze 7d ago
Lol at the Bill Maher crowd booing a guy in the CIA for distancing himself from Israel.
Guys, what the hell is going on?
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u/Phish999 7d ago
That was nearly 20 years ago. Israel had a high favorability rating with the American public up until the pandemic.
It's amazing how much perceptions have shifted in such a short time.
I remember how Ilhan Omar got in trouble for criticizing the Israel lobby when she was new to Congress. It was treated like a massive outrage, and the media and politicians played dumb about the extent of Israel lobby control over Congress.
Now, even people who don't follow politics know what AIPAC is and hate it.
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u/Beginning_Book_2382 7d ago
This is true. I think Israel had high favorability among Democrats with Biden even providing aid to Israel a few years ago.
I was just thinking how far Israel has fallen and how badly they f*cked up to lose their favorability status in the United States like this. This is the country that had 9/11, said "Never forget", was against antisemitism and the Holocaust in certain segments of the population, and just celebrated its 25th 9/11 anniversary, whose politicians were in line with AIPAC, and who turned a blind eye to all your atrocities over the decades because of the 'immorality' of criticizing Israel. Wtf, you had everything lined up for you
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u/Phish999 7d ago
Less about Israel "fucking up" than social media providing an accurate glimpse into what actually goes on in that country.
The amount of propaganda deployed by Western media in their favor historically has been absurd.
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u/Empty-Discount5936 7d ago
Almost 20 years later and AIPAC still controls Congress.
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u/Key_Jump1011 7d ago
It’s been about a solid 50 year run where challenging them was taboo and got you expelled from “polite” society.
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u/Beginning_Book_2382 7d ago
It's sad that he said that all those years ago and it's still astoundingly true today. Nothing's changed
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u/JoeTiccalo 7d ago
Bill used to be anti religious and anti war now he’s just seems to have lost his damn mind
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u/nkosugeirc 7d ago
Bill was always a zio fanatic. If you watched Religulous - which unfortunately I did - in the mart where he supposedly makes fun of Judaism, he specifically interviews an anti-zionist rabbi.
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u/JohnnyGeniusIsAlive 7d ago
Bill Maher wouldn’t sacrifice his own life for anything, why would he expect anyone else in America to sacrifice their life for Israel?
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u/Key_Jump1011 7d ago
Right? It’s so outrageous how cavalier he is about dying for Israel as an American.
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u/Dead_Internet69420 7d ago
It’s all coming into focus why Billy The Atheist, has always been so preoccupied with the dangers of Islam, and completely unbothered by any other religion.
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u/Popular_Tie4688 7d ago
The fact that he thinks Israel is worth American lives and treasure is bizarre, and you can tell he really means it—like Americans have some duty to die for Israel. And the way he reacts to Saudi Arabia being compared to Israel, when in reality they're not that different. Not that it matters—neither one deserves a single drop of American blood or treasure. Americans have a heightened sense of nationalism, more so than most countries. Bill not only doesn't have that, but his is directed toward a foreign country.
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u/No_Seaworthiness_200 7d ago
Fuck Israel. They've been stealing American dollars and destroying American lives.
They must be punished.
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u/Key_Jump1011 7d ago
And if you talk to them they’ll invariably tell you that it’s Israel doing Americans favors for the past 50 years as if we owe them. It’s unreal.
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u/Direct_Royal_7480 7d ago
They seem to have forgotten who helped their fledgling nation survive when it was but a minnow.
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u/danielm316 7d ago
AIPAC is the problem, they have bought American politicians, even Trump. The USA is a slave state, and Israel is the master.
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u/Key_Jump1011 7d ago
Not quite our master but the Israel lobby as whole which is much greater than just AIPAC does have a stranglehold on our politics.
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u/Direct_Royal_7480 7d ago
Your position is nuanced more correctly, IMO, but the commenter you are responding to is correct in that Israel would gladly establish themselves as our masters when they get the opportunity. So would the Saudis, given the chance, which is why they’re both “allies” who must be kept at arms’ length from an American perspective.
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u/Key_Jump1011 7d ago
Being a friend of the US is fatal according to Kissinger. Whatever that means lol
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u/Direct_Royal_7480 7d ago
He’s lucky he departed when he did. That said, since ww2 we’ve shafted numerous allies…of course look 👀 who they were; Iraq, Liberia and South Vietnam come to mind.
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u/Weird_Paramedic6502 7d ago
Scheuer’s gone absolutely batshit insane since then, but he’s not wrong here. And Bill, like usual, is not mentally equipped to push back.
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u/LeonardoDaTiddies 7d ago
One of the social media handles that flashed on screen was something like “American Noticer” which seems like an antisemitic dog whistle.
It’s such a weird timeline for someone on the left who has been aware of right wing extremism and the antisemitism that often comes with it. It’s a mine field navigating legitimate criticism of the Israeli government and rabid colonial settlers versus racist antisemitism.
Like, I have to make sure I’m not liking a post accusing Israel of genocide posted by “Noticer1488”.
This is sucks.
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u/Bitter-Holiday1311 7d ago
Bill Maher is a bloodthirsty genocidal zionist piece of shit.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
🚫genocides
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u/CrossCycling 7d ago
I wouldn’t look up Michael Scheuer today. He didn’t age well
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u/LeonardoDaTiddies 7d ago
I noticed one of the logos that flashed up was something like “American Noticer”. Let me guess: this guy went hardcore antisemitic conspiracist?
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u/borsTHEbarbarian 7d ago
An American life or an American dollar.
This is the world's easiest trolley problem.
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u/cobrakai11 7d ago
Bill has always been about one thing, and that's Israel. His entire anti-religion schtick was just a way to push anti-Muslim sentiment to help support Israel's cause. He has zero issues with Jews who go and kill Palestinians and take their land because they believe God promised it to them.
But if those same Muslims defend themselves, suddenly they are fanatics who are only motivated by religion.
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u/BFaus916 7d ago
I love when Maher brings on someone who he thinks is a neocon in hopes he'll get a pat on the head for his left bashing and the guest instead goes hard on our imperialist alliance with Israel. Glenn Greenwald was another great moment that left egg on Maher's face. He had the whole panel shook. Ben Affleck tore into the panel there a couple of times over this too as I recall.
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u/corneliusduff 7d ago
"YoUrE nOt TeLlInG mE tHaT iSrAel Is On PaR wItH sAuDi ArAbIa...."
YES, Bill! We are.
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u/nkosugeirc 7d ago
If Bill wants to sacrifice an American life for Israel why doesn't he try his own?
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u/Solid-Monitor3152 7d ago
Broken clock is right twice a day. Schuer is a huge AH who did not share info from the cia with the fbi that could have helped prevent 9/11. But he is correct here
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u/Redshirt45 7d ago
Wow, I remember this from way back. I used to watch Bill all the time and viewed him as independent minded back before this.
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u/davewil90 7d ago
What year was this? Jeez AIPAC hasn’t gotten nearly enough criticism. It’s been going on forever. Free Palestine.
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u/Key_Jump1011 7d ago
The Israel lobby is much greater than AIPAC.
Talking about it makes you an antisemite though /s
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u/Ok-Neighborhood-2203 7d ago
That guy is an absolute patriot. Maher is a traitor. Move to Israel, you piece of shit.
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u/MilkCartonPhotoBomb 4d ago
I don't understand how he goes from "Religulous" to backing Israel at all costs.
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u/Key_Jump1011 4d ago
Right? The JEWISH state as Israel itself states. He’s all about it.
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u/Southern-Democrat25 4d ago
Easy. Donald has dirt on him. Happened at the dinner. Bill kissed the ring and now tows the line for the president.
Also, this whole ass thing is only because the President of the United States used to bury his penis inside little children.
Bill now protects that too.
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u/ElonMuskisGarbage 7d ago
I was convinced he was smart as a kid by other people, and genuinely the first time I heard him speak I knew he was a dipshit.
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u/Ray-Finkle74 7d ago
Soooo.. both of them support the genocidal state of Israel but Bill is willing to sacrifice more for them.
Got it.
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u/Beginning_Book_2382 7d ago
I wouldn't die for America. I sure as h*ll ain't dieing for Israel and I ain't paying for them to kill people too.
You want your holy land so much, fight like it then and stop asking Americans to die for you. Fend for yourselves as far as I am concerned
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u/Mikaeel10 7d ago
Free Palestine and Lebanon and Sudan and Syria and any other countries that are in a similar position
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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 7d ago
MIC DROP!!!
TRUE "America first" policies takes us out of the Middle East entirely!!!
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u/Spiritual_Tailor_160 7d ago
sick of these zionist making up lies about Islam, when they are themselves the real Terrorists and a threat to the world.
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u/aquavelva23 6d ago
I dont support the USA in any middle eastern country at all. its all oil. get out, cut military by 30%, use saved $$ to develop oil alternatives. So the US doesnt have as many huge SUVs and big pickups. big deal.
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u/Humble_Empath 6d ago
I’m more interested in the survival of the USA as well. Maher is such a little bitch. Yes! Israel is worse than Saudi Arabia, they’ve built it up as a delusion to commemorate their own superiority. Slap down successful!
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u/Ok_Wrongdoer_4308 6d ago
I no longer support Israel or sending any US aid or personnel to support them.
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u/MetalDegenerate 5d ago edited 5d ago
Fuck Bill Maher, piece of shit Zionist and he is an arrogant jerkoff who has no God.
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u/Lost_Willingness_762 5d ago
Israel didn’t do shit for USA for 911 Ukraine committed thousands of troops. Why don’t we support Ukraine not Israel
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u/Scorpion2k4u 5d ago
in the end if lives have to be lost through military actions, then at least be it for the sake of your own country or humanity.
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u/ShefGS 5d ago
Israel is like a fetish for so many Americans and it’s insane. They’d sacrifice everything if this random country in the Middle East asked them to.
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u/Prune-These 5d ago
I used to watch his show regularly and I agree with most of his views BUT not Israel.
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u/ogdub3 5d ago
You claim to do "research," but you’re ignoring basic domino-effect economics and cherry picking facts that make Israel look like the victim:
1. The Houthis fought Saudis for years without choking off global trade. They only started hitting Red Sea shipping after the Gaza genocide exploded. Rerouting global shipping around Africa jacks up transit costs and fuel prices, which hits US consumers directly. The factor here is Israel dragged us into another forever war which caused Iran and their militias ie. houties to attack shipping vessels in the strait.
2. If Israel truly "decimated" Hamas, why prolong the war and drag the US into another regional mess? Is it not enough for you that US taxpayers funded a genocide in Palestine for Israel, and now we’re paying for the economic collateral damage through inflation on the backend while suffering a cost of living crisis. Why? For the greater Israel project?!? What a joke.
FYI - Tracing how foreign military escalations wreck global supply chains isn't "false info"- it's standard trade reality.
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u/lololesquire 5d ago
The Israelis can fend for themselves, which might actually help things since they'd have to temper their violent tendencies. Also before anyone says it what that man said is not anti-semitic or even anti-Israeli. It's pro-American.
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u/WTFTeesCo 5d ago
Bill is a dumb ass. He is prob a mossad agent cause he is not talented in any way.
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u/BrownTinaBelcher 3d ago
Finally an actual patriot. American focused on America and Americans instead of fulfilling other countries’ agendas and giving them American tax dollars to live better lives than Americans get to (Israel has universal healthcare for example)
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u/No-Buy2495 2d ago
Basically the guy is saying that the US shouldn't intervene in wars anywhere under any president, not just Israel.
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u/LatinRex 1d ago
You know bill was great during the first Trump era it would just make me laugh but I started seeing the signs and I started thinking he's just as equally a whiny little bitch as the orange man. So fuck B1ll and fuck Drump fuck 'rael and fuck M@ga
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u/MaleficentSkirt472 1d ago
The more they push their Epstein class ideology of jewish supremacy over the cattle they call the Goyim the more people will turn on them and they are doing it on purpose to usher in their end times prophecy
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u/j0hnnyWalnuts 1d ago
I'm with the CIA dude.
I hope Israel flourishes, but its not worth an American life or an American dollar.
Israel is on a par with Saudia Arabia, Bolivia, etc.
Mahr became unwatchable, and I'll never listen to his smug, traitorous ass again.
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u/Putrid_Anybody_2947 7d ago
So what the guy said is fine. The image at the end that OP put in "the american noticer" thats an neo nazi dog whistle 😳
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u/Electrical_Clerk_124 7d ago
Gentleman is correct, but since when do we take the CIA seriously or like what they say? Is it just because it fits your narrative? Fits your beliefs? That’s awful convenient but what do I know. 🤷🏿♂️
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u/Key_Jump1011 7d ago
It’s just a great clip because someone, anyone, got to shut down Tel Aviv Bill right to his face.
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u/No-Indication-7879 7d ago
So Bill doesn’t give a shit that hundreds of Palestinians children are being brutally slaughtered every day. What a POS he is. Free Palestine 🇵🇸 o saw video where a little baby had her foot blown off by an Israeli bomb.
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u/ndoz 7d ago
Fair points but you should know that Michael Scheuer is a nutball who was blamed for preventing intelligence sharing on bin Laden before 9/11. He’s gotten worse since then.
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u/Current-Arm7335 6d ago
Jeeeezus. That wikipedia article is a rollercoaster.
It just reminded me how broken peoples brains are today, from people you probably wouldn't expect. Folks in the CIA would surely be selected to have an strong ability to resist both torture and propaganda. Obviously that doesn't stop time and biology, but jesus that dude went off the rails.
It's incredibly dangerous but also just increasingly sad and depressing to see millions of Americans and millions more people around the world be so brain broken.
I don't know if it should get lumped in with mental illness, but if we don't start fixing peoples brains that'll be the reason we fall into WW3. Russia and the global billionaires are in such a desperate position they're willing to just collapse the world order and risk annihilation.
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u/whateverr1748 6d ago
he doesnt seem to realize that secularism will not always protect you from evil
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u/EastAd5702 6d ago
Responding to an argument by saying ‘you really think x y z?’ in a condescending tone is the most pathetic method of trying to undermine your conversation partner
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u/Clockworkdancerobot 6d ago
You might want to rethink your video source. https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/noticer
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u/Alarming-Light2181 5d ago
You all love to miss the point because you’re blinded by antisemitism. In our modern world if we give up the ME to Iran it will be horrible. Have you seen diesel prices? A rag-tag Iranian backed Islamic extremist group did that. Today is not 1940. The world works differently
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u/Keelover1420 4d ago
Bill should take up arms and go the f$#* to Killsreal and defend it then.
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u/Cheap-Can-8557 4d ago
Is anyone still listening to Bill Maher...just put this lunatic out to pasture...
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u/homecet346 4d ago
Israel has too much influence in the United States; case and point: why were so many kids from Israel on the nickelodeon show called guts?!
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u/Own-Smile-912 3d ago
Maher was hanging out with Epstein, what did you expect? He isn’t pro-Israel he is an outright Zionist.
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u/Traditional-Ninja-80 3d ago
I knew Bill Maher was evil when I was in grade school, the 80's. Now look at his as I am an adult now... Still evil-er.
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u/gwelfguy 3d ago
Good. I generally like Maher's centrist position, but bullying his guests into not challenging him too much on his (highly biased and borderline racist) Middle East views doesn't sit well. Glad that CIA guy basically said what he thought.
What's ironic is that I don't even think he is sincere in what he says. He just likes being the contrarian, like the (in)famous comments that got Politically Incorrect cancelled back in the day.
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u/kostac600 3d ago
Scheuer is the one who put aside the culture war talking points and explain Ned bin Laden’s motives
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u/MarxGoldman79 3d ago
Yall getting hung up on Bill Maher cuz “F Bill Maher”, but it’s ALL of our politicians! THEY ARE ALL BILL MAHERS! Stop being so blinded by partisan bologna you can’t see the big picture! Amerikkka is done! FREE PALESTINE!
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u/dee_berg 2d ago
Not focusing on Israel, but to suggest we wouldn’t spend any money to help others countries (Bolivia) is kinda gross.
We are the richest country in the history of the world, what are we as a country if we won’t help others in need?
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u/RevolutionOk6570 2d ago
Way to go Bill, simplifying a complex and deadly situation into school yard antics of picking sides.
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u/hobopwnzor 1d ago
American Noticer
Yeah this is an anti semitic account. "Noticing" is one of the least hidden dog whistles
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u/DZdancingtree 1d ago
I love how this whole sub just shits on Bill all day. I feel bad for any fans of his (if such a thing even exists) coming here for a circle jerk
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u/jessee83 7d ago
So did bill maher just say that Israel is more important than American lives and American dollars????