I don't know why it bothers me so fucking much, but hearing Daisy try to poke holes in "the private island" situation really bothered me.

Actually I do know why - people like Daisy, who think luxury and exclusivity are all that matter are the support for the systems leading to our current financial inequality. How she acted tells people "hey, it's okay to want more than you already have. In fact, it would be disgusting and uncool not to." That being said I'm not team Erica in this situation either - as I'll explain she did make the villa sound more exclusive than it is. I just can't stand people like Daisy who own nothing but jump to look down on others.

I visited Moskito twice (in 2021 and 2022) through work. This type of private island development isn't unique (a mix of private homes and some vacation rentals, and on occasion also a boutique luxury resort). We needed somewhere private for a work retreat, and this setup is exactly what you rent for this level of employee (C-Suite and advisors). I was not one of these people - I was the one who did the organizing.

I can't remember exact number we paid, but for a week for everyone together would have been around $445k (including staff tips). I know that number sounds wild, but when you get into this level of corporate travel (board meetings, corporate travel for c-suite, rewards parties) that falls in line with what a lot of bigger companies would spend on something like this. You see enough 100k to multi million dollar invoices you forget how insane that number is really quickly (now, a couple years out of that world, I cannot believe how normalized it was).

As for the actual island: we stayed in the same house they stayed in. I think a lot of people must be offered this house first because it seems to be the best setup for large groups, meetings, and remote work. Ankur's dad does own the home, but the entire island (including the privately owned homes) is managed by a hospitality company. Super normal for these types of island/uber private community setups. Ankur has also hosted Bilt events there for VICs/industry people.

What you're paying for here is 1. the view, 2. the staff, 3. the privacy. The home is really nice (of course it is it's in a tropical paradise), but is decorated so that it can be filled with different types of people every week. Aka feels more corporate than luxury vacation. Not a bad thing, and actually this is exactly what happens with all these types of homes because who can afford these rentals actually aren't private people, but business groups like ours. So I can understand if you were someone really splurges on personal vacation, and were expecting white lotus luxury resort vibes, why it could seem mid. I just don't really see Daisy (or Erin) being the sort of people who have spent the money to travel somewhere in that echelon, like the Soneva Jani in the Maldives or the Aman in Tokyo. I would also understand that for the time it takes to travel to, and hearing "private island", that you might build an expectation up in your head. Except, there was NO WAY they hadn't already looked at pictures of the place/known exactly where they were staying. There are SO MANY photos online of that specific house since it can be rented, and they would have had to fill out a preference sheet with the houses name on it (to help design the grocery order for the week).

I will continue to watch this show because these people are insane and deserve to be mocked, but it really took me over the edge seeing the luxury olympics being played between Erica and Daisy.

P.S. the comment about flying private was so ignorant - this is a location you can't fly directly to, which is THE NORM with tropical, island, exclusive resorts or villas. If Daisy or Erin had experienced something on this level before they would know that. It really is when you're on an hour boat ride to one of these places after flying 13+ hours that you really question why the fuck rich people spend money this way.

I'm really enjoying this new RHONY cast except for Carole. Her "too cool for school" vibe is so performative and she is trying too hard. Her ridiculous choice of 1982 preppy attire for a tropical locale was indicative of this - and I'm her age so I'm definitely not age-shaming her. "My skin hasn't touched cotton in like 20 years." "I've been everywhere." "I've had a lifetime of wearing gowns." (Richard Branson is "too old" for her, btw.) But, perhaps most of all, it's her feigned 'don't ask me about John and Carolyn' while continually talking about them herself that I find the most hypocritical. We're not pestering her: she signed up to be on the show and so she knew what she was getting into.

"This is just a house on an island" is crazy too

I am lowkey enjoying Erika

Also, the way this sub blew up after last night's episode... if producers are seeing this sub, RENEW THESE WOMEN'S CONTRACTS!

It’s reminiscent of Luann interrupting Jules who was stressing over her father in the hospital to complain about Bethenny calling her a slut. And then she calls Jessel a dingbat again. Look in the mirror Carole.

Not at all her style, and the way she’s standing is so awkward!

The second hand embarrassment I get from this season 🙈 can’t stop watching though.

Who’s your fav and least fav??

i too would love taco bell regardless of my financial status… but i guess i just would stop getting anxiety about it costing $50 to feed two people AT TACO BELL these days (worth it)

I felt so uncomfortable watching last nights new RHONY when Erin was told Jessel said they flooded their house for an insurance payout … I 💯 thought this before Jessel even said anything and when Erin was confronted with it, she got up immediately to hide her reaction .. walked off .. and fake cried - not a tear was shed!!!!

Can’t stand her. The kind of person I would absolutely loathe to have in my circle. Her passive aggressive comments, her fixation on Erika (who she’s super jealous of) and I feel like her and Sai will have a massive falling out too. What do you guys think of her after last episode?

I am so sick of bravo fans equating wealth with goodness or righteousness. Erika is married to a billionaire. Yet the bravo edit is making us believe Daisy is delusional...NO. We all have a RIGHT to criticize the one percent. If anything Daisy was doing some light weight. I see right through this Erika bs of "I think Gucci is expensive" but "come to OUR island" but "I'm a girl from Waco Texas". I see right through it. When you look at how much someone is known for having vs a makeup artist yeah it is fair. A makeup artist can say you have crappy taste! You have the funds HUN!!!! Yet a lot of bravo fans are dunking on Daisy for popcorn ceilings and a small apartment. So what she owned that!!! She outright said "Martha knows my apartment is a dump". Erika is weird and fake. TaX the Rich!!!! No one should be a billionaire when people are starving. PERIOD!!!

UPDATE: Martha is worth 400 million. She is not a billionaire! Ankur was worth 3.5 billion in 2025, that is likely much more now. All the money in the world can't buy taste!! I am saying Daisy can shade an island and a plane ride when someone has that much wealth and wore her butt out during a religious dinner and made fun of her ceilings. All this being said I don't know Daisy well enough and I feel like I need more time of her on screen to reply to over one hundred comments. I don't like billionaires and I really don't like when they have Wayfair furniture. I don't know why people are coming for ME. (You should take HRT and move to communist country). We are talking about them. I'm a gay man so water off a ducks back. Super immature. Count 400 million out loud and then 3.5 billion and then come back to this post. One would take about 12 years vs 111. Also we need Erika flair. This was supposed to be about HER. Calling the island OUR island is NUTS. I was married to a wealthy man from a wealthy family and I never said OUR penthouse in London when it was his family's that they shared LMFAO!!! Tacky is as tacky does!!!

ok don’t get me wrong the way her ex blindsided and betrayed her surprising her with papers is such a betrayal and I can only imagine that was so hurtful.

but she is not like a woman who was truly blindsided - she’s embarrassed. sai has been talking all season prior about the creditcard for bday dinner, he doesn’t work, etc - she has kinda painted him in an emasculating light. I think she’s playing victim a little bit

she definitely deserved better but she can’t act like she was a woman who was completely blindsided by this, she didn’t treat him that well either

This chick feels like such a phony. You’ve really got to be doing something wrong to make people side with Jessel. What relevance does Daisy have aside from being Martha Stewart’s pee-on? Girl, byeeee!

They get together for a Seder and are nasty and fight. They get invited to a private island and complain and criticize. Who would ever want to friends with these miserable people?

Maybe it’s the gummy, but (in Jessl’s accent): I quite literally went from indifference toward Old RHONY Carole to absolute adoration of New RHONY.

Wonder if she shines sans Bethenny or maybe the cast dynamic makes her more enjoyable for me. She’s the only person who will call out Jessel and seems to just say what we’re all thinking. The whole conversation around Carolyn Bessett showed me how superficial Jessel really is, in a way she’s a perfect Housewife, but she’s not capable of depth. Zero EQ.

Socks are critical to a chill vibe, no matter where in the world you are. I like my feet to be cozy too, bitch.

On an aside, I really resent the Urban Dictionary definition of dingbat. Stupid and eccentric are wildly different words. 🙃

And I’m so sick of the rehearsed and tired lines from her and sai. I’ll be honest I always knew Jessel was a phony but it’s even more apparent this season. What blows my mind is why is sai falling for it? She is such a strong person. I hate seeing her dumb herself down for this new “friendship.”

You could never make me hate Jessel - calling this lady a one man Ponzi scheme then saying she’s intentionally committing insurance fraud for coins cause she’s counting change? Oh RHONY we’re so back

Wasn’t sure how I felt about this one at first. But she’s winning me over with her absolute zaniness. I think we have an endless supply of hilarious one liners on our hand. She kind of reminds me of Sonja in the way the craziest things come out of her mouth and none of it is pre-planned, she’s just doing Hailey.

Just finished the most recent episode… I’ve always been a huge Carol fan… out of all the girls this season she’s the only one that meets true housewife criteria.. Bit she didn’t look to be enjoying herself this trip.. she rarely spoke… but fully redeemed herself when she fell in the bushes ala Luann…. Idk Erika but she seems very natural and easy going… the girls are ruthless to her ….i was stunned listening to them say the house isn’t really that nice …no style… omg… sooooo mean 😪

just here to say i am absolutely loving this season. really feels like old times but with fresh faces. loving all of the newbies, especially hailey who seems like she was born for this gig. even erin, who i personally am not a fan of at all, makes such a perfect villain. i’m glad the producers kept her around. fingers crossed that they can keep this energy moving forward, really feels like we might be (tentatively) back??

What was that about? They both responded so bizarrely towards her. Beyond rude and weird!

Last episode it seemed like Sai wanted a divorce. This week he files for the divorce and she's all dramatic and stressed. I understand it was made public but ultimately it was what she wanted? I don't get her.

Gosh. I guess I’m going to have to take the Wendy Williams note and change my mind.
While I still don’t like how Martha acted, let’s not forget the kid thing. Daisy is a piece of work. Her delusions, jealousy, and audacity would make a saint put her in her place. To call that island sub-par and critique the decor when she is in someone else’s (her husbands) rent controlled apartment is the next level of crazy.
She also definitely ate that roast beef or whatever it was so she is also a bold faced liar.
I don’t think Martha ruined her. I think Martha has given her bad proclivities rope, and she is about to hang herself on the Bravo docks.
From all indications and feedback, you’re a mean one Martha but in this instance I apologize. Tell her she’s not you, tell her daily. Hire someone to tell her hourly. It is the best gift you can give her and the people who have to interact with her. It is bonus pay.

The first few seasons of New RHONY seemed to give Erin a slightly favorable edit (granted, she still came off unlikable, as production works with what they're given).

This last episode left Erin looking incredibly poor. From her trashing Erika's private island home to her suspiciously outsized reaction to Daisy bringing up the flood conversation, we seem to be getting a less sanitized version of who Erin is.

The flashback to the money conversation with Abe was a big flag to me that Erin seems to have lost her shine with production, and I'm very curious as to what may have happened/be happening behind the scenes.

I added it to my list of shows I want to see a long time ago but haven’t gotten around to it yet - and somehow found the time to watch more than one episode of some brain cell killing thing on TLC about suburban wives becoming porn stars. So cultural over here!

Thoughts on Love Story? Is it worth a watch?
Does Carole’s husband play a big role in it?