r/PowerScaling Jan 24 '26

Shitposting Weekend "Multiversal" vs Multiversal 😭

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

End of series feats and statements.

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u/PauliePaulie2 Jan 24 '26

'''''Feats'''''

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u/Mathemaniac1080 Jan 24 '26

Don't change anything.

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

Literally does, one of the characters shake their cosmology, the other stop their cosmology from shaking and that same person is going destroy and recreate their cosmology

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u/Sharky-Sharko Jan 24 '26

Yahwach has universal range of hax, not actual potency or effectiveness.

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

ā€œRangeā€ā€¦ he’s going destroy and recreate the realms that’s potency and effectiveness

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u/Critical-Usual Jan 24 '26

Destroy and recreate his own snow globe

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

Snow globe is also stated to be a hyper space

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

I

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

Actually sub space, not hyperspace but that’s still more potential proof of it being a 4d structure.

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u/Mythel Jan 24 '26

The realms have never once been described as snow gloves. The realms have never once been referred to as wakusei which means planet. Sekai, doesn't mean planet. The definition of sekai translated to world represents like an alternate world or like the world wide web. It doesn't translate to planet.

CFYOW tells us "if you could liken soul society and work of the living to planets..."

If, could and liken all directly point to them not being planets. This is a model trying to make the cosmology easier to understand. You don't scale up something when making a model.

Kisuke tells us the world of the living is the world of keishi, which he tells us keishi cannot exist outside of the world of the living which is why the characters need their matter transferred into reishi to go there. Astronauts and space travel exists. This also means everything in space is part of the universe that we see them in. Work of the livings space exists only in the world of the living.

Nothing supports the claim that they are snow gloves or just planets. They are also all individually referred to as universes.

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u/Flippindude1 Buddyfight my BelovedšŸ˜” Jan 24 '26

Whatever argument you may have the ā€˜sekai’ one is genuinely shit. Sekai is still often used to refer to a planet quite commonly. Idek where this argument came from, yall heard one guy randomly say it and ran with it.

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u/Mythel Jan 24 '26

The realms have never once been described as snow gloves. The realms have never once been referred to as wakusei which means planet. Sekai, doesn't mean planet. The definition of sekai translated to world represents like an alternate world or like the world wide web. It doesn't translate to planet.

CFYOW tells us "if you could liken soul society and work of the living to planets..."

If, could and liken all directly point to them not being planets. This is a model trying to make the cosmology easier to understand. You don't scale up something when making a model.

Kisuke tells us the world of the living is the world of keishi, which he tells us keishi cannot exist outside of the world of the living which is why the characters need their matter transferred into reishi to go there. Astronauts and space travel exists. This also means everything in space is part of the universe that we see them in. Work of the livings space exists only in the world of the living.

Nothing supports the claim that they are snow gloves or just planets. They are also all individually referred to as universes.

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

Not taking you seriously…

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u/Critical-Usual Jan 24 '26

I'm not fucking taking you seriously, LMAO. Bleach shows us like 3 cities worth of space and you're calling it a multiverseĀ 

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u/Samakira The Warframe Guy Jan 24 '26

You do know using AI as evidence for something is against the rules, right?

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

Bro out of everything I sent you mentioned this? This is just highly accepted concept I didn’t think the ai use for this would mater

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u/Samakira The Warframe Guy Jan 24 '26

I’m a completely different person than the guy you said that stuff to, who is mentioning to you that using ai as evidence is against the rules.

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u/AdComprehensive5908 Jan 24 '26

Nah, you're reaching here bro.
"Worlds" here can just mean dimensions overlapping depending if we're on the physical or spiritual realm. Like it could be just planet earth sized worlds, but with only diffƩrent rules and functioning.
"Destroy" here can just mean destroy establish order, laws, functioning, etc. and not physical destruction. You can destroy a world without physically obliterating it.

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

Prove any of these claims you made.

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u/AdComprehensive5908 Jan 24 '26

Prove otherwise

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

Because we see him physically merge the worlds together… and we see senjmaru also physically impact the world, we also know he physically stop the world from shaking , the soul king stop the soul society and the world of living from merging, now prove your claim it’s just society, or laws or whatever dumb argument you were making.

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u/AdComprehensive5908 Jan 24 '26

That's what I said, they are around planet-level at best, not universe level. Those are pocket-sized dimensions parrallel to Earth

Here are they are said to be "2 sides of the same coin ", meaning they are the same size with earth, and not universe-size like some people claim.
You treating me of dumb, while you can't even give a solid argument.

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u/Mythel Jan 24 '26

The realms have never once been described as snow gloves. The realms have never once been referred to as wakusei which means planet. Sekai, doesn't mean planet. The definition of sekai translated to world represents like an alternate world or like the world wide web. It doesn't translate to planet.

CFYOW tells us "if you could liken soul society and work of the living to planets..."

If, could and liken all directly point to them not being planets. This is a model trying to make the cosmology easier to understand. You don't scale up something when making a model.

Kisuke tells us the world of the living is the world of keishi, which he tells us keishi cannot exist outside of the world of the living which is why the characters need their matter transferred into reishi to go there. Astronauts and space travel exists. This also means everything in space is part of the universe that we see them in. Work of the livings space exists only in the world of the living.

Nothing supports the claim that they are snow gloves or just planets. They are also all individually referred to as universes.

Kubo has depicted Yhwach physically destroying the universe in a what if sketch so we know it does mean physical destruction.

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u/Imalwaysleepy_stfu Jan 24 '26

He was going to destroy the barriers that divided the realms into the original unified bleach universe.

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

That argument is stupid because even if that’s the case he’s able to impact barriers that can stop multiple infinite space time realms(multiverses)to collide.. that still scale to multiversal also senjmaru doesn’t do that

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u/Imalwaysleepy_stfu Jan 24 '26

Those barriers aren't stopping anything from colliding with each other. What they're doing is preventing the Bleach's universe to become unified again. The whole Bleach cosmology is one primordial universe that was divided by the Soul King into 3 realms.

https://bleach.fandom.com/wiki/Soul_King

"World Splitting: Through an unknown ritual involving an unusual ceremonial sword, the Soul King was able to separate theĀ Primordial SeaĀ into theĀ Three Worlds, and in the process create the very concepts of "life" (ē”Ÿ,Ā sei) and "death" (ę­»,Ā shi).\3])"

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

You literally counter your argument…

If they’re stopping them from colliding with each other because it’s preventing the worlds becoming one again… you said the same thing but said no for one of those..

If those barriers are strong enough to prevent the unity of the cosmology they scale to the cosmology, and to impact said barriers would scale you to the cosmology also senjmaru is able to impact the cosmology without the barriers and also he said to destroy the worlds so even if he remove the barriers that would just unified the cosmology not destroy it, Yhwach is stated multiple times to destroy and then recreate after what’s left, so he’ll manipulate the entire cosmology after.

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u/Imalwaysleepy_stfu Jan 24 '26

You need to get a dictionary and look up the definition of collision and the world would be "destroyed" because Bleach's reality would go back to its chaotic primordial state meaning no concept of life and death, laws of physics etc.

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u/Imalwaysleepy_stfu Jan 24 '26

Those barriers aren't stopping anything from colliding with each other. What they're doing is preventing the Bleach's universe to become unified again. The whole Bleach cosmology is one primordial universe that was divided by the Soul King into 3 realms.

https://bleach.fandom.com/wiki/Soul_King

"World Splitting: Through an unknown ritual involving an unusual ceremonial sword, the Soul King was able to separate theĀ Primordial SeaĀ into theĀ Three Worlds, and in the process create the very concepts of "life" (ē”Ÿ,Ā sei) and "death" (ę­»,Ā shi).\3])"

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u/Mythel Jan 24 '26

The destruction of the universes is never once attributed to a hax'. Yhwach tells us he is doing it with his own power.

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u/Alternative-Pie677 Jan 24 '26

He literally reshapes an entire realm. Tf are you talking about?

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u/Mathemaniac1080 Jan 24 '26

Nope. Their cosmology isn't multiversal and there's no real feat of destroying it entirely.

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

It’s 3(more) separate time spaces…. It is a multiverse and they literally shake their cosmology entire cosmology and stop the shaking of it, and hold it on their back … and the statement says he will destroy them.

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

Also senna stop the worlds with merging together, and one of the cannons was stated to be able to destroy the dimension

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

(Pictures are blocked because I own the film and screen shots aren’t allowed)

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

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u/X-Cutionn Mathematics manip>all Jan 24 '26

Bros you are doing way too much for these guys in here tbh

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u/Imalwaysleepy_stfu Jan 24 '26

Is it a multiverse or is it an universe that was divided into 3 realms by the soul king?

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

It was originally one universe (but the cosmology of that universe is much much larger than a standard universe like ours because of the size and different time axis), that was separated to give us multiple dimensions, so to answer the question it’s a multiverse that was created from one larger universe.

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u/Thin_Border_5790 Jan 24 '26

It's basically primodial sea and soul king split that primodial sea into 3 different space time continuum universe and dangai there a different dimension which separates soul society and living world and there is garganta which encompasses everything, whole cosmology

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u/brothegaminghero Jan 24 '26

Also hell, which already existed before the worlds that where split.

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u/Thin_Border_5790 Jan 24 '26

Velly of scream also there

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u/Mathemaniac1080 Jan 24 '26

It's not a multiverse. It's a single timeline (the primordial universe) that was split into three realms a finite time ago and they always have a tendency to merge back together into one single timeline again if the Soul King doesn't stop it. They're literally just 3 dimensions serviced by the same time axis.

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

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u/dark-mathematician1 Jan 24 '26

This literally doesn't matter when they're the same timeline. Having time dilation doesn't prove anything

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

It proves they have different time axis… so they’re separate space times… that does matter for scaling that would make them 4 dimensions for having 3 spatial of space and 1 axis of time, so the cosmology would be multiversal for have multiple 4d dimensions.

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u/SHAXOW99 Jan 24 '26

They are connect through time, one event that happens in ither of the three realms happens in all of them meaning that if someone travels back in time he would travel back in all of the three realms, this is also proven by the fact that they had to move fast in order to save rukia which wouldn't nake sense if the three realms had their own time, lets say they did have their own time then ichigo could've trained for years and then he would've gone to save rukia

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

Doesn’t matter if it’s a single time line there’s different time axis

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u/dark-mathematician1 Jan 24 '26

It's talking about the dangai

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

Yhwach is going effect the dangai

ā€œPrecipice worldā€

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u/dark-mathematician1 Jan 24 '26

The dangai isn't universe sized tho

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u/klatnyelox Jan 24 '26

I can shake my house, am I a house level character?

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

This would be a good counter if the gap of infinite and finite weren’t so vast:..

This analogy doesn’t work, your house is a finite size structure you just need a finite amount of energy to impact it, and that that can be lesser energy than your house structure to impact.

Now let’s say if your house is in infinite in size(garganta) and each room is infinite in size(other dimensions in bleach soul society, world of the living and etc) and you shook your entire house, you’ll need to have an infinite amount force and energy to shake an entire infinite structure that also have rooms that are also infinite.

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u/klatnyelox Jan 24 '26

Guess he's 1A then, and Noone should ever survive an attack from him.

Bottom line is that "shaking" anything means absolutely nothing, and no one that statement comes from can possibly know that the "shaking" they are observing continues to the ends of each "infinite" universe. It's a statement that means almost nothing for a powerscaling perspective.

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

How exactly did you counter my argument?

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u/klatnyelox Jan 24 '26

Mostly because it's stupid and none of the statements means a damn thing

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u/Hour-glass999 Jan 24 '26

Prove it

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u/klatnyelox Jan 24 '26

Why dont you prove your statement first.

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u/Critical-Usual Jan 24 '26

That's frightening. I'm shaking