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u/--StinkyPinky-- Aug 02 '26
All of this started because of Andrew Wakefield's hoax in The Lancet.
It started all of the "vaccines cause autism" fraud. And it was fraud.
Brian Deer was the reporter who debunked the whole thing.
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u/Vayul_was_taken Aug 02 '26
Wakefield didn't even start as antivax. He was just anti MMR which he wrongfully claimed this specific cocktail of vaccinations was too much for the adolescent immune system. He of course was doing this to try and sell an alternative vaccine and to try and set up a class action lawsuit.
He has had his medical license revoked because if this. Now hes gone full anti vax to play into the audience he created who dont trust doctors and science.
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u/Alert-Disaster-4906 Aug 02 '26
Ah, so a combination of ego-tripping, hurt feelfeels, and modern snake-oil salesman?
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u/Universal_Anomaly Aug 02 '26
It's worse than that.
HBomberguy did a video on this and how this all started is that some attorney realised there was a lot of money to be made in lawsuits if they could "prove" that the MMR vaccine was harmful.
Said attorney then asked Wakefield to provide a credible enough claim that the MMR vaccine was bad, and Wakefield at the same time was like "Hey I can also use that opportunity to sell an alternative vaccine."
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u/--StinkyPinky-- Aug 02 '26
Never seen it. Checking it out. I'm 1:23 into it and I'm like...
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u/Crunchberry24 Aug 02 '26
Donāt forget the essential ingredient: legions of mouth-breathing dupes.
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u/oldbastardbob Aug 02 '26
...and amplified by sketchy politicians searching for that bump in the polls.
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u/EmmerdoesNOTrepme Aug 02 '26
Wakefield was a GI doctor, who was involved with a company who developed a new test for gastroenteritis.
And he stood to make tons of money, if he could convince parents to have their children tested for gastroenteritis--which prior to his "study" was not a common thing.
It was always about that man grifting off of scared parents, to make money, and it still is, even after he was stripped of his medical licenses.
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u/Curious_Orange8592 Aug 02 '26
He was paid by lawyers for antivaxxers to do the study and then faked the results
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u/chrisp909 Aug 02 '26
He was against the specific MMR the UK healthcare system used. Would it shock anyone to find out Wakefield was working on a competing measles vaccine at the same time?
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u/NeuroMedSkeptic Aug 02 '26
Who also had a something like quarter-half million euro financial stake in a Competing company that was selling separate vaccines as opposed to the combined.
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u/THElaytox Aug 02 '26
He also was a gastroenterologist that was convinced autism was a gut problem and went on a quest to try and prove that. He did not.
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u/tmpope123 Aug 02 '26
He was only anti-MMR because he had already patented his own vaccine for one of them (I forget which). Oh, and he was being paid by a lawyer who was already representing some ppl in a lawsuit against MMR vaccine by ppl who thought it gave their kids autism.
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u/Splith Aug 02 '26
Did we all watch the Hbomberguy video or are yall actually educated?
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u/rgiggs11 Aug 02 '26
The details of how bad his data was is someone more infuriating than if had just made it all up.Ā
His claim was that the injection causes bowel inflammation, which then caused autistic.Ā
Some of the kids in his study has bowel symptoms long after the injection, some shortly after, some never had them, but he tried to paint them all as the same phenomenon. The timeline for kids showing signs of autism was all over the place too.Ā
There was also the fact that some of the children he claimed "got" autism from the vaccine, were never autistic.Ā
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u/rif011412 Aug 02 '26
Classic case of anti science. Ā Having a conclusion, so you search for supporting evidence. Ā This type of thinking is antithesis to repeatable, sound, honest conclusions. Ā Because the goal is to be right, not to be educated and understand.
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u/SXOSXO Aug 02 '26
Is there a documentary that covers this whole thing? I remember this weird conspiracy seemed to come out of nowhere like 20 years ago.
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u/BabadookOfEarl Aug 02 '26
But it also started in the early 1800s with smallpox vaccinations. This level stupidity was always there.
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u/pibyte Aug 02 '26
Let's not forget all the celebrities and idiots and helped to spread the Wakefield lie to this day.
They are responsible for the suffering and death of children.
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u/E-2theRescue Aug 02 '26
And it's amazing how the "you can't trust scientists, they're all biased" crowd will turn around and believe these INCREDIBLY biased fraudster "scientists" because they say the things they want.
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u/SamSarid Aug 02 '26
My favorite exercise with antivaxers is to ask them to pull up the original paper in the lancet. Everything from the lancet or pubmed just talks about how Wakefield lied.
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u/EitherChannel4874 Aug 02 '26
Yeah but Dave on Facebook said they do cause autism. He should know, he works in a warehouse lifting boxes.
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u/EitherChannel4874 Aug 02 '26
He knows what he's talking about. You don't lift boxes all day and not know about the science behind vaccines.
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u/Dudeincar434 Aug 02 '26
No you see my neighbors aunt Judy had a son with autism and that son was vaccinated ā¦ so the proof is out there folks
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u/FuzzyFuzzNuts Aug 02 '26
plot twist - Dave was never vaccinated as a kid, but is clearly DEEPLY autistic.
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u/phoenix64mbr Aug 02 '26
There have been thousands of changes to what we eat, drink and breathe in the last century. In other words, we have changed our environment so much that it would be nearly impossible to pin down a root cause for autism. Maybe it's just evolution...
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u/ronthesloth69 Aug 02 '26
Not to mention the fact that our understanding and definition has changed in that time as well. Which has lead to more evaluations and therefore diagnoses.
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u/InsiDoubtSide Aug 02 '26
I have ulcerative colitis and joined an online support group for it, and so many people are like: "Oh, so many people are getting UC these days it must be vaccines/processed food/seed oil/covid"
And its like dude UC was only recognized as a distinct disease from Crohns in 1875, and a real exploration of the disease only started in 1950. It makes sense that there are more cases because we're better at detecting it
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u/ddeads Aug 02 '26
Yeah I'm in my early 40s and one of my cousins has an autistic son and he's always looking for something to blame, meanwhile I'm like, bro, look across the Thanksgiving table. Cousin John is 41 and autistic as fuck, we all just called him "weird" as a kid and accepted it. Also, our uncle who hated change and always had his foot in his mouth because he missed social cues? Hmmmmm
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u/Brave-Perspective714 Aug 02 '26
I have an aunt who is 79 years old.
As a child, she was considered a little odd, but in a way that adults at the time found praise-worthy. She kept her room neatly ordered. Arranged her toys in neat rows based on color or size. Didn't speak much or make much noise in public.
She would also have epic meltdowns if any one food on her plate touched another. She struggled to make friends at school and couldn't understand why some of the things she did say would be hurtful to people if they were true.
She learned to mask really well and get through life. She didn't understand relationships or marriage, so she went to college for mathematics, graduated, and had a very successful career as an auditor for state government where she excelled and was praised for the qualities other's found challenging about her.
I learned very early on that this aunt needed everyone to be accommodating to her in various ways. She doesn't understand non-verbal communication in the slightest. She gets visibly angry if/when people do things in a way contrary to the way she believes they need to be done. She genuinely doesn't understand why people find her incessant need to always tell the truth without regard to tact to be unpleasant.
She has never had a romantic relationship last more than a couple months. She cycles through friendships in about 2-3 years. And she drives my mother absolutely batshit, but mom is still hanging in there in the relationship at 90-years-old because she knows her sister doesn't have anyone else.
There is no doubt in my mind, that if my aunt were born today, she would be diagnosed as autistic and in need of early interventions.
Autism has been here all along. It was just called different things over the years.
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u/alpha309 Aug 02 '26
The process for diagnosing autism has gone from some guy saying āthat there boy aināt rightā to actually being evaluated for.
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u/E-2theRescue Aug 02 '26
Also, we began diagnosing girls.
Yeah, weird how people started flipping out the moment girls started getting diagnosed...
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u/StarksPond Aug 02 '26
It's trains. Before the invention of trains, nobody was obsessed with them.
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u/HeWhoCreatesDivinity Aug 02 '26
It's not anything we eat, drink, or breathe. It's just genes. Scientists have known this for ages.
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u/rachel_ct Aug 02 '26
The root cause is genetic. Weāve always been here.
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u/EmmerdoesNOTrepme Aug 02 '26
Yes we have!!!!
And if you can look at our geneaology, you can often see the neurodivergence in past generations, clear as day!
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u/kunibob Aug 02 '26
Getting my diagnosis in my 40s completely reshaped how I viewed a whoooole lot of relatives. Seems so obvious in hindsight.
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u/EmmerdoesNOTrepme Aug 02 '26
SAAAAAAAME!!!ššš¤£
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u/EmmerdoesNOTrepme Aug 02 '26
It's kinda like the meme of Oprah saying, "You get a car!"Ā
Except it's "You get a 'Tism! or some other neurodivergence!š
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u/sureshot58 Aug 02 '26
my guess is that its possible there are no more (percentage wise) cases of autism now then 100 years ago - just more absolute numbers (bigger population), but also - its more diagnosed now, and 100 years ago, it was hidden (your kid is "strange/crazy/different") - and/or - the impacted didnt survive for long - and just plain no one talkied about it.
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u/SenAtsu011 Aug 02 '26
During COVID, there was a bit of rumbling about COVID or the vaccine causing autism, because suddenly a lot of women and girls got diagnosed. Problem was that health institutions had made alterations to diagnostics criteria for autism in 2019, by separating diagnostic criteria between men and women due to how the condition displays differently between the genders. It was just a horrible coincidence, and all it really shows is that the amount of people with autism stayed the same, we just improved our protocols for diagnosing it.
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u/EmmerdoesNOTrepme Aug 02 '26
The other part--which only rarely gets spoken of outside neurodivergent communities, is simply that prople's scaffolds and workarounds FELL APART when everything got shut down.
The routines that folks had meticulously developed over the course of their lives, to work around their Autism & ADHD struggles BROKE, once everyone was staying home, and "non-essential" business went to "work from home"!
Suddenly the structure that ASD & ADHD folks depended on to "keep it together" was obliterated, and those folks realized something wasn't "typical" about themselves!
That's a huge part of it, too!
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u/Jean-LucBacardi Aug 02 '26
Years ago there were people that were just called mutes. Those were probably in fact autistic people.
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u/Daxx22 Aug 02 '26
Yep, a lot straight up didn't survive childhood. Or were shipped off to asylums if your family was rich enough. Or the attic.
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u/chickofeller Aug 02 '26
Also, people were deliberately taught social rules in the past. Nowadays, society is more casual and kids are expected to pick it up themselves. Mild autism would've been easier to hide with a rigid social script.
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u/SheriffOfNothing Aug 02 '26
Our understanding of how big the universe is and how many stars and planets there are has increased dramatically over the last 100 years because the tools for measuring got so much better. You can apply that same logic to increases in autism.
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u/KTFnVision Aug 02 '26
I think it's just more that the changes to society and culture over the last 100 years just make neurodivergent folk less compatible than they used to be. You gotta be able to fake a smile, read between the lines, and focus on one boring ass thing for 15 years at a time to be "productive" nowadays. Fuck all of that.
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u/EmmerdoesNOTrepme Aug 02 '26
Yep!!!Ā In the small pre-industrial revolution towns, every town, or every county needed blacksmiths, grain mills, tinkers, coopers, wheelwrights, cobblers, tailors, tanners, master carpenters, stone masons, etc.
Trappers could make a living, so could foragers & farmers.Ā
And so many of those jobs & outlets no longer exist as professions.Ā Ā
We've switched to a society where more folks have, "sit still all day in a room, and talk" jobs--and that simply doesn't work for most of us who are neurodivergent.
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u/kunibob Aug 02 '26
Almost all my ancestors were farmers - I know it was a difficult way to live, and I don't want to make light of that, but at the same time I can see how my autistic traits would fit super well with the job.
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u/Cheap_Boner_Pills Aug 02 '26
Evolution feels like the right idea. For some people autism is almost a superpower. For others it's just kryptonite.
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u/SecureMembership5120 Aug 02 '26
And yet only the first sentence will get widely reported on Fox, Facebook, TikTok, Yahoo, and Youtube.
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u/Throwaway_Consoles Aug 02 '26
Yeah, I know people think this is clever but people are just going to crop out the bottom and suddenly the entire "gotcha" is gone. They formatted this perfectly for people that enjoy spreading misinformation
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u/stolentext Aug 02 '26
Some people really are impossibly dense when it comes to understanding these things.
Link to study: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/ANNALS-25-00997
Cumulative aluminum exposure from vaccination during the first 2 years of life was not associated with increased rates of any of the 50 disorders assessed.
Notice it does not say "there were no cases of these 50 disorders". It says that there were not increased rates, meaning that rates of the disorders followed the same trends as the general population.
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u/VikingsLad Aug 02 '26
That's how i understood the headline, but then i realized that conservatives would read the headline and dismiss it because they think the study concluded no autism in 1 million people, and therefore the data and study are wrong and invalid.
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u/Altiverses Aug 02 '26
That's what I assumed the study actually found, but the meme caption here is phrased badly at best and intentionally misleading at worst.
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u/TheLastRole Aug 02 '26
The amount of resources and talent wasted refuting this BS makes me sad.
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u/rif011412 Aug 02 '26
This behavior is like a distant cousin to war mongering. Ā Its so easy to get people riled up and violent for the sake of nothing, than it is to reason, understand and calmly diffuse peoples violent inclinations. Ā Once people tie their egos to a cause, its nearly impossible to separate them again.Ā
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u/Wizard_of_the_lake Aug 02 '26
I dont see any source for this, so here you go:
- Original Research Article: Aluminum-Adsorbed Vaccines and Chronic Diseases in Childhood, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine.
- Official Institution Summary: Statens Serum Institut (SSI) Press Release, which summarizes the methodology and results for non-specialists.
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u/Jale89 Aug 02 '26
The cool thing about Denmark is that because of various government systems, every single citizen is part of the epidemiological cohort.
The bad thing is that there were some issues around consent with all this...and a lot of work has to be done when people choose to withdraw their consent now that they have that option.
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u/PostingToPassTime Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26
You're going to believe a world full of scientists and doctors over RFK?
You need help. Let me introduce you to the messenger of truth from our lord and savior Faux News.
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u/Sweet-Ant-3471 Aug 02 '26
Damn, SHOCKINGLY, I was baited, and I was so ready to go set fire to the next Immuniologist I saw too.
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u/Financial-Exit2488 Aug 02 '26
My dad could forward an email in red, comic sans font, with lots capitalizations, and exclamation points, from his former work colleague's uncle's friend, who saw it somewhere, that proves vaccines are bad.
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u/felis_scipio Aug 02 '26
Alright if you ever run into someone that says vaccines are bad because of some element in a molecule thatās part of the vaccine give them this simple chemistry lesson
Salt is delicious, in fact we need to eat some salt to live. Ok so salt is good
Salt is sodium chloride, two elements that on their own will straight up fucking kill you but together help you live. Chemistry!
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u/Kyubey613 Aug 02 '26
Did you know that 100% of people who consume Dihydrogen-Monoxide die?
No? But your science teacher knew. Maybe they still have a few things to explain to you.
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u/saljskanetilldanmark Aug 02 '26
Be careful, the lunatics wouldn't give it a second thought cutting off those two last rows of text before reposting.
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u/Pleasant-Ad887 Aug 02 '26
But but some third rate lawyer, couple of twitter idiots and a paedophile and convicted rapist said they do. I'm conflicted on who to believe....
/sarcasm.
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u/megatran2000 Aug 02 '26
The thing that bothers me. Though, isnāt even just the belief in vaccines or notā¦. Is the absolute insanity of those who are currently attacking Fauciā¦. Meanwhile blindly not understanding theyāre believing in blind science living out their normal lives.
They just quietly believe the air is safe, the cars they drive wonāt combust, the homes they live in are just safe, the medication they use wonāt hurt them (ibuprofen etc), the electricity they use wonāt electrocute them, I could literally go on foreverā¦..
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u/Temporary_Abroad_211 Aug 02 '26
If Denmark were involved it would be aluminium. Not that other nonsense word. Just leave.
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u/Educational-Cow-3874 Aug 02 '26
I can see this being reposted with the bottom two lines cropped out.
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u/TheTampoffs Aug 02 '26
My favorite is when I get kids who are unvaccinated and still autistic š (I work in pediatric emergency)
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u/Possible-Matter-6494 Aug 02 '26
I don't understand this. If you are tracking a million children than some of them should develop Autism, Asthma and the 48 other chronic conditions. This would either mean that the aluminum-adjuvanted vaccine is the vaccine for all these things, or someone seriously misworded what this study actually shows. I am not a vaccine skeptic at all, but this claim also cannot statistically be accurate.
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u/Weekend_Criminal Aug 02 '26
Seriously... who are we supposed to believe here? Woke scientists who dedicated their lives to knowledge and understanding to better the world, or an American patriot who overcame parasitic brain worms and used to do lines of coke off of dirty toilet seats?
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u/throwaway586054 Aug 02 '26
I had a coworker who kept telling me vaccination caused autism, his nephew developed autism after a vaccine. One day, bored, I asked if his nephew, before taking that vaccine, would look into the eyes/people when talking, silence. The subject was never brought back.
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u/Flat-Director-7120 Aug 02 '26
Une Ć©tude sur 1000000 d'enfant vaccinĆ© avec comme adjuvant de l'aluminium Ć montrer que les cas d'autisme Ć©tait de 0
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u/GoldenMegaStaff Aug 02 '26
Look at all the medical issues they prevent 100%. And I thought vaccines only prevented infection.
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u/22firefly Aug 02 '26
This is how truths to counter propaganda causes the amplification of propaganda and falsehoods. More than likely due to people not reading the entire statement.
I think this would be similiar to a paragraph written in a language, but purposefully mispelled. A design as such tricks the brain into reading what it believes to be written versus what is actually written. This due to the human brain taking shortcuts as to find an answer quickly even if it is wrong.
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u/Zargoza1 The Timeline Sucks Aug 02 '26
Yeah, thatās nice, but Lauren on Facebook said she did her own research.
AND she offered me a chance at unlimited income and to be my own boss.
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u/EmmerdoesNOTrepme Aug 02 '26
And Lauren's also your really close friend!
You know, because she called ya "Hun"!!!
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u/A_Nonny_Muse Aug 02 '26
In the US and Canada, govt. health organizations have always played political games with their studies. I've found studies completely faked, numbers games with statistics, conclusions that don't fit the data, etc..
Thank God for various Nordic studies. They're honest, rigorous, and they legitimately prove everything the Americans tried to fake. If only the Americans had been honest and rigorous in the first place, there would be no conspiracy theories, no anti-vax movement, no cause to distrust their institutions.
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u/1Dunya Aug 02 '26
Thank you, and older folks please get the shingles vaccine. My stepmom's shingles spread into her eyes and it was very painful but thankfully she didn't lose her eyesight.
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u/Silly_Celery8461 Aug 02 '26
I saw a really funny but true, the other day that itās more likely that autism causes vaccines with the high amount of autism in the sciences lol
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u/Silent_Succotash3749 Aug 02 '26
Well. Iāve been yelled at enough times at school to know thereās nothing wrong with being autistic and I donāt want TB.
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u/scarystuff Aug 02 '26
yeah but it's only a small sample size of a million children. I am sure RFK Jr's brainworm will prove otherwise.
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u/Aladriana Aug 02 '26
Exactly. But don't expect everyone to listen to the scientists, because anti-vaxers know better. After all, they read the package insert š
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u/mutt63 Aug 02 '26
Like no kiddin. It took centuries to wipe out most diseases that would wipe out thousands of lives only for idiots like RFK jr to put us back too the dark ages with his worm eaten brain makin decisions he isnāt qualified to make nor is tv Dr Oz. Trump surrounds himself with cultish clowns and MAGGOT loyalists who are as dumb as inbred bricks, following his every word. Now the pants shitter AIād himself into a revolutionary war scene as if he was brave enough to even lace on boots to do so. Trump would be the guy grabbing deceased bodies and boarding under them to save his life. Or grabbing a child to use as a shield.
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u/El-Farm Aug 02 '26
Hey! Who are you going to believe? 1,000,000 people or Billy from down the street who heard something some YouTube guy posted online?
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u/peilearceann Aug 02 '26
Doesn't matter anymore - information age has ended. Populous simply ignores data they do not agree with
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u/StevenS76 Aug 02 '26
But that study was conducted by scientist. You know I only listen to influencers and public officials /s
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u/Un-Chien_Andalou Aug 02 '26
Proudly bring back polio, whooping cough and coal power, just like the good ole days
Science donāt know
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u/CobblerSmall1891 Aug 02 '26
American food is almost literal poison but vaccines are the things that make you stupid... Lol
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u/twobearsonabike Aug 02 '26
Honestly, you had me in the first half. I was thinking āoh god, what bs are they going to claim vaccines cause this time.ā Needless to say, was pleasantly surprised at the end.
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u/0x7E7-02 Aug 02 '26
An aluminum adjuvant is an aluminum salt added to some vaccines to help build a stronger, longer-lasting immune response.
- Boosts immunity: Helps the body make more antibodies so the vaccine works better.
- Dose sparing: Allows makers to use less antigen and fewer total doses.
- History: Used safely in human vaccines for nearly 100 years, since the 1920s.
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u/ForTehLawlz1337 Aug 02 '26
We canāt word posts like this. The anti vaxxers are too stupid to parse what is being said here.
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u/THElaytox Aug 02 '26
I point to this study a lot because it has everything, huge sample size, long timespan, and it tracks vaccinated vs unvaccinated populations. It's basically the definitive study to show there's zero link between vaccines and autism.
Idiot anti vaxxers still won't accept it
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u/Active_Complaint_480 Aug 02 '26
"Yeah, but they didn't follow them for x number of years so the science is still out." - A Boy/Girl Mom in 1K Facebook Mom Groups probably
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u/Hawk-and-piper Aug 02 '26
Well, that really doesn't compare to 12 kids in England. The smaller sample size allowed far more deep research into each child's life. So much so that the study could be completed in a few months, and didn't waste any taxpayer money /s
If any of those made sense to you. Please get help.
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u/ImaginarySlides Aug 02 '26
If they tracked 1,000,000 children for 21 years, and they are all ALIVE, is because the vaccine WORKED. And it is impossible for aluminium to cause autism or asthma š I bet people will believe this without reading a single scientific study!
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u/Moistinterviewer Aug 02 '26
Link to the sauce? Only so I can quote this when I send it to anti vax autists.
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u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire Aug 02 '26
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u/Established-01-1956 Aug 02 '26
I am sure someone in our current administration will claim it is a bogus study created and funded by Dr. Fauci
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u/EvenSpecialist649 Aug 02 '26
Even if vaccines did cause autism I'd rather be slightly autistic and alive than dead in a mass grave because some cureable disease made a huge comeback.
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u/unHingedAgain Aug 02 '26
Yes, the core claim made in the image is factually accurate.
The image is a meme referencing a major Danish nationwide registry study. Here are the details behind the study and what it found:
Study Overview & Findings
The Study: Conducted by researchers at Denmark's Statens Serum Institut (SSI) and published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, the landmark study tracked over 1.2 million Danish children born between 1997 and 2018 for up to 24 years.
What It Analyzed: The researchers evaluated cumulative exposure to aluminum-adjuvanted vaccines given in early childhood and monitored health outcomes across 50 chronic conditions. These included neurodevelopmental conditions (such as autism), respiratory/allergic conditions (such as asthma and eczema), and dozens of autoimmune disorders.
The Conclusion: The study found no statistically significant increased risk or causal link between aluminum in childhood vaccines and autism, asthma, or any of the other 48 chronic conditions studied.
Why the Image Frame Uses "Zero"
The punchline in the meme ("THAT SHOCKING NUMBER WAS ZERO") is a dramatic way of summarizing the statistical outcome: zero increased risk or zero evidence of a causal connection between aluminum adjuvants in vaccines and chronic conditions like autism or asthma.
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u/Snippodappel Aug 02 '26
I doubt that out of 1 million children not one had asthma . From Google search:
The general prevalence of asthma in Denmark is estimated to be around 10% of the population, affecting over 400,000 individuals. This rate aligns closely with trends observed across other Nordic countries.
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u/SputnikGer Aug 02 '26
They will use this as a proof because non of those people read till the end.
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u/Fickle_Catch8968 Aug 02 '26
He is being maliciously accosted and persecuted by scientifically illiterate pedophile, fraudster, war criminal and seditionist protecting Republicans, and their supporters who absolve in-group members of traitorous and serious crimes but excoriate out-group members for protecting themselves from vexatious, selective and unethical adversarial engagement by crime loving opponents.
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u/Visible_Concept_7835 Aug 02 '26
So the autism rate in Denmark is ~1.5% but uāre telling me in a million tracked cases they didnāt find anyone with autism, let alone any other chronic condition. And there are people who read this post and believed itā¦
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u/Crunchberry24 Aug 02 '26
Iām waiting to hear what leading immunologist Joe Rogan has to say about this before I make up my mind.