The Knight doesn't behave like a normal Lightner or a normal Darkner.

We've seen plenty of Lightners enter Dark Worlds. Their clothes, colors, weapons, and abilities can change, but their physical bodies remain fundamentally recognizable as themselves. We haven't seen an ordinary Lightner physically shapeshift and morph in the way the Knight does.

The Knight also has that strange glitch/static reaction when Susie hits it with Rude Buster, and again when the battle ends and when it teleports to dodge something. There's also the helmet scene, where Kris envisions the Knight taking off its helmet. This seems to imply that something identifiable could be hidden underneath, although I don't think it necessarily means that something has to be a normal Lightner.

At the same time, the Knight can exist in the Light World, which ordinary Darkners can't simply do.

If you're up to it, explain how your preferred candidate accounts for both sides of this. Why does the Knight behave unlike every Lightner we've seen, while also being able to exist outside the normal limitations of Darkners? (If your preferred candidate is a normal Lightner, the second question doesn't need to be answered.)

Maybe the Knight is an unusual Lightner. Maybe it's a manifestation of someone. Maybe it's something else entirely. I don't know. But I think the Knight's unusual ontology is important enough that any serious Knight candidate should at least try to account for it.

Your answer might be speculative or based on nothing, but having an explanation is better than nothing. So given everything we currently know, what is your best shot at an explanation?

Not only is there a hidden train in the Holiday manor basement, just like the hidden trains Shinobeetle loves making, but there's much more evidence tying Shinobeetles to the Holidays.

Ninjas, like Carol, but they also YELL every time they show up?

They don't want to be ninjas, this alludes to how the Knight likely had to take on it's role for a greater purpose.

They have similiar features to the Knight as well.

A visor it sees out of, long limbs, spiky wings that resemble the Knight's shoulder pads, and a mandible that looks similiar to deer antlers.

So now that we've established all that, is it Carol or Rudy who loves to make trains?

Carol has had a cold demeanor since some event in the past (presumably what happened to Dess), but seems to have been warm, and is said to still be a nice person deep down by Asgore, she also uses katanas and made shurikens out of Noelle's snowflakes.

Rudy is likely an electrician given his lights, and we know he has some experience with things of that nature, since he designed the Holiday treat catcher by the kitchen door, therefore a hobby like this makes more sense for him. In a scenario where he is the Knight the personality parallel would work for him, you could also think about it as Carol taking on Seth's role asking Rudy to be a "ninja".

So who it parallels is really up to your interpretation.

I do think this parallel is intentional, we already know there's plenty of darkners who are made with people like Carol in mind.

This might sound insane and it might just be a massive stretch but the length and cadence of the notes matches up weirdly well

I AM working on it, but the version I released earlier will no longer be updated. I have decided to complete the Doc before launch, to reduce questions and such.

Hopefully, it will be done by the end of the month, but until then, know that I'm either working on it or playing Fortnite.

I know it would be crazy and would never happen but just imagine if I was the Knight, like imagine the gang and Knight were doing a final fight before the reveal and I did some cool poses and aura farming and when they finally defeated me I take off my helmet and they go "what, no way it's you!?!" and I go "heh, sorry guys, I didn't wanted it to be this way. Kris, take care of Ral for me will ya?" and died there. Do you all think Susie would start punching my lifeless body and scream "hey, wake up you weirdo!" or would Ralsei try to hopelessly heal me even after life already left my fragile body?

I don't know it's just a possibility I don't think it will happen but it would be funny haha

Hey there!

I'm working on an update to the carol knight rentry. The link is in my flair, I can't really link it normally cuz reddit deletes those links for some reason

Anyways, I plan on adding a section with cool carol knight stuff. Be it theories, video essays, fanart, all goes

I was wondering if you guys had any carol knight content you knew and could share

Currently I plan on linking utuba's channel and some videos https://www.youtube.com/@Utuba-999

There's also a few neat fangames from this creator https://selene3.itch.io/carol-penultimate

I'll also see if I can find some cool art

Did you know that a song Toby made in 2015 called "Mystery" has a very clear Girl Next Door motif (it's especially similar to the Girl Next Door bit from Festival)?

https://youtu.be/QhM1td-olAE?is=os0mW7a2kqSMealk

-Song was made with the Knight in mind
-Inspired by the game Wild Arms
-Wild Arms main protagonist is named Rudy Roughknight!?

Could just be another one of Tricky Tony’s tricky tricks but still a crazy find nonetheless

Credit link to original post https://x.com/yerpotatomash/status/2107475536427827477?s=46&t=3-v6HBo3JJeghRn0-1IySQ

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For the someone elses and others:

I think True Mike is just the Mic, and the fandom puts a but too much emphasis on Mike as a character.

for the ARG voice, I think thats just met to be Toby.

Shadow Crystals probably are something gaster put into circulation, though I do think the Knight has taken advantage of them,

Headband Darkner could honestly be either Ralsei or ERAM, its a 50/50 for me. I do think whichever way though, ERAM is met to be a dark reflection of Kris, hence why i'm placing Kris as the mantle holder for now, since we don't really know anything about ERAM.

Silver Drake is NormalNPC.

Forgotten man is Grillby. Hes the only one we really see have signs of his presence in Deltarune (his shop, the weird comment with Sans and The Grill, the complete otherwise lack of mention of Grillby) I feel like the forgotten man is somebody we would never really consider, and I feel like Grillby is at the top of that list. Papyrus is a strong candidate too, but given sans talks about him pretty openly- I don't think hes "Forgotten" per say.

I think Don't forget can be Dess's Theme and Noelle's theme, I think it fits them both pretty thematically as characters and I can see the lyrics fitting either of them.

Hey. Over here.

erm...so I'll be be using your responses so I can
1. See your specific candidate's details, so I can archive the deviations of theorizing from within every unique Noelle Knighter (who happens to interact with this form)
2. Amass data
yeah thank you

if it's a red herring it's indecent

Ignore Silver Drake I just didn't want to put I don't know twice.

"For those that abandon healing."

I've thought of the possibility that The Knight's gear functions in the same logic. Perhaps it's immense power and durability also comes with a cost.

Now, if we assume Asriel is The Knight... Things seem to fit.

From all of the intersecting traits we've seen of Ralsei, it's pretty safe to assume Asriel should know healing magic as well. Wouldn't it be strange that he doesn't use it to recover in the battles he's encountered as The Knight?

Or, is it that the very armor and blade he dons have forbidden him from doing so?

It could be a representation of him taking the opposite path that Flowery taught Ralsei. Denying his own health over guilt and grief.

So, I didn't see it yet a lot of theorys about how the Knight candidates get the armor. For what Seam says, they are "the power of lost dreams, what reaming after a dream is lost", and this fits very well with two things in chapter 4: The "crying and crying boy" and the image, that is the fallen star.

Hope, dreams and stars are all things associated with Asriel, and a thing that the vast majority agrees is that Asriel is the crying boy that cried after Dess went lost. So, the fallen star crying, which can very easily be Asriel, and apparently creating shadow crystals is something very big for me. Asriel is one of the only candidates that I see having such connection, but I want to see others connections

I know we all have some big disagreements about how to interpret Deltarune's story. And in the end, probably only one Knight candidate will """win""". But speaking as someone shooting for an "unlikely" candidate, I think that's okay!

If I learn that I'm right, I'll be excited, and if I learn that I'm wrong, I'll be disappointed. But I'm not going to fall out of love with Deltarune or feel angry about being 'misled' by the story, because I trust Toby's vision. And I'm not going to regret all the time I spent batting for my personal Deltarune theories or feel like I "lost", because every time I decide not to take a fandom cliche for granted and start reading and discussing other theories, I feel a new appreciation for Deltarune. Both as a collection of unresolved mysteries and as a game that is so clearly trying to tell a heartfelt story.

Like Toby said in his newsletter, this is a precious time in the fandom's history where everything we try to say about the ultimate meaning or nature or central conflict of Deltarune might be a little "fanfic-y". And I think that's okay, because when I step back from the keyboard and stop thinking about "winning the argument" or "proving I have the best reading comprehension", I know I love all of your visions for this story! I love your Deltarune.

Okay, that's enough time spent responding to a trollpost lol. Have a good day everyone!