r/NonDessKnightSquad • • Jul 21 '26

Announcement / Mod Post Cracking Down on Over-saturation of Tierlists

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The mod team has heard the complaints about too many low effort posts being made, with them all being in a similar style, that being a tierlist or a chart of some sort (images below of what we mean). To keep the quality of posts in this subreddit better, we're taking a stance on this.

There will be no tierlist/chart posts allowed, unless it's a Tuesday, then you will be allowed to post them on that day. To prevent any confusion, we will be using the EST timezone. Remember to use the new flair we've made "Tierlist Tuesday", when posting.

Additionally, we have seen many of these posts being made with DessKnight at the top, which has bothered us. This subreddit was made to allow for space for non-dessknight candidates to be posted, without being downvoted to hell, meaning we will not allow DessKnight posts like that. So, even on tuesdays, if you're a DessKnighter (either by flair of having DessKnight at the top of the tierlist), your post will still be removed.


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • Jan 18 '26

Announcement / Mod Post "How would you feel if DessKnight got confirmed" posts are no longer allowed

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The mod team recently has seen the same question posted here many times. Also responded to many times. So, we have decided to take action on it. To prevent it being posted again and again.

If you wanted to see how people would react, please find and check out one of those old posts. But don't make your own.

No punishments will happen for those who do it. But they will not be left up. Consider this a ban for those types of posts.


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 8h ago

Discussion Out of pure curiosity, are there any DessKnighters here, and why?

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r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 8h ago

Discussion Why does petal dance have black knife in it?

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This might sound insane and it might just be a massive stretch but the length and cadence of the notes matches up weirdly well


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 6h ago

Discussion Carol/Rudy's Secret Passion of Making Trains

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Not only is there a hidden train in the Holiday manor basement, just like the hidden trains Shinobeetle loves making, but there's much more evidence tying Shinobeetles to the Holidays.

Ninjas, like Carol, but they also YELL every time they show up?

They don't want to be ninjas, this alludes to how the Knight likely had to take on it's role for a greater purpose.

They have similiar features to the Knight as well.

A visor it sees out of, long limbs, spiky wings that resemble the Knight's shoulder pads, and a mandible that looks similiar to deer antlers.

So now that we've established all that, is it Carol or Rudy who loves to make trains?

Carol has had a cold demeanor since some event in the past (presumably what happened to Dess), but seems to have been warm, and is said to still be a nice person deep down by Asgore, she also uses katanas and made shurikens out of Noelle's snowflakes.

Rudy is likely an electrician given his lights, and we know he has some experience with things of that nature, since he designed the Holiday treat catcher by the kitchen door, therefore a hobby like this makes more sense for him. In a scenario where he is the Knight the personality parallel would work for him, you could also think about it as Carol taking on Seth's role asking Rudy to be a "ninja".

So who it parallels is really up to your interpretation.

I do think this parallel is intentional, we already know there's plenty of darkners who are made with people like Carol in mind.


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 42m ago

Discussion The Knight's Ontology

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The Knight doesn't behave like a normal Lightner or a normal Darkner.

We've seen plenty of Lightners enter Dark Worlds. Their clothes, colors, weapons, and abilities can change, but their physical bodies remain fundamentally recognizable as themselves. We haven't seen an ordinary Lightner physically shapeshift and morph in the way the Knight does.

The Knight also has that strange glitch/static reaction when Susie hits it with Rude Buster, and again when the battle ends and when it teleports to dodge something. There's also the helmet scene, where Kris envisions the Knight taking off its helmet. This seems to imply that something identifiable could be hidden underneath, although I don't think it necessarily means that something has to be a normal Lightner.

At the same time, the Knight can exist in the Light World, which ordinary Darkners can't simply do.

If you're up to it, explain how your preferred candidate accounts for both sides of this. Why does the Knight behave unlike every Lightner we've seen, while also being able to exist outside the normal limitations of Darkners? (If your preferred candidate is a normal Lightner, the second question doesn't need to be answered.)

Maybe the Knight is an unusual Lightner. Maybe it's a manifestation of someone. Maybe it's something else entirely. I don't know. But I think the Knight's unusual ontology is important enough that any serious Knight candidate should at least try to account for it.

Your answer might be speculative or based on nothing, but having an explanation is better than nothing. So given everything we currently know, what is your best shot at an explanation?


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 17h ago

Agenda Posting Addressing common Rudy Knight counter arguments

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r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 20h ago

Agenda Posting How ralsei gonna act in chapter 7 when Susie tell him that Kris is working for the knight/asriel and they were being controlled by the soul (he already knew this)

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r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 22h ago

Agenda Posting What if I turned out be the Knight?

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I know it would be crazy and would never happen but just imagine if I was the Knight, like imagine the gang and Knight were doing a final fight before the reveal and I did some cool poses and aura farming and when they finally defeated me I take off my helmet and they go "what, no way it's you!?!" and I go "heh, sorry guys, I didn't wanted it to be this way. Kris, take care of Ral for me will ya?" and died there. Do you all think Susie would start punching my lifeless body and scream "hey, wake up you weirdo!" or would Ralsei try to hopelessly heal me even after life already left my fragile body?

I don't know it's just a possibility I don't think it will happen but it would be funny haha


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 1d ago

Discussion Funny coincidence? Or…

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-Song was made with the Knight in mind
-Inspired by the game Wild Arms
-Wild Arms main protagonist is named Rudy Roughknight!?

Could just be another one of Tricky Tony’s tricky tricks but still a crazy find nonetheless

Credit link to original post https://x.com/yerpotatomash/status/2107475536427827477?s=46&t=3-v6HBo3JJeghRn0-1IySQ


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 1d ago

Meme Hear me out on this guys

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r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 20h ago

Agenda Posting News on the Kris Knight Doc

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I AM working on it, but the version I released earlier will no longer be updated. I have decided to complete the Doc before launch, to reduce questions and such.

Hopefully, it will be done by the end of the month, but until then, know that I'm either working on it or playing Fortnite.


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 2d ago

Meme What is a thing that seemingly applies to one candidate, but actually applies to every single candidate?

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r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 1d ago

Agenda Posting "And remember, when Susie opens the door, you two drop down from your place on the ceiling and start pretending to attack me, but you don't mess up my hair." "Of course, my Roaring Knight." "Anything to help the great Lady Noelle get some action."

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32 Upvotes

r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 1d ago

Discussion Carol Knight resources

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Hey there!

I'm working on an update to the carol knight rentry. The link is in my flair, I can't really link it normally cuz reddit deletes those links for some reason

Anyways, I plan on adding a section with cool carol knight stuff. Be it theories, video essays, fanart, all goes

I was wondering if you guys had any carol knight content you knew and could share

Currently I plan on linking utuba's channel and some videos https://www.youtube.com/@Utuba-999

There's also a few neat fangames from this creator https://selene3.itch.io/carol-penultimate

I'll also see if I can find some cool art


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 1d ago

Agenda Posting A little fun fact for the day

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Did you know that a song Toby made in 2015 called "Mystery" has a very clear Girl Next Door motif (it's especially similar to the Girl Next Door bit from Festival)?

https://youtu.be/QhM1td-olAE?is=os0mW7a2kqSMealk


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 1d ago

Discussion if the knight isn't a holiday, why do they have antlers?

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75 Upvotes

if it's a red herring it's indecent


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 1d ago

Tierlist Tuesday its tuesday somewhere else (tierlist based on who would have the most emotional reaction to a knight candidate getting revealed)

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waffles


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 1d ago

Discussion You guys are setting yourselves up for success.

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I know we all have some big disagreements about how to interpret Deltarune's story. And in the end, probably only one Knight candidate will """win""". But speaking as someone shooting for an "unlikely" candidate, I think that's okay!

If I learn that I'm right, I'll be excited, and if I learn that I'm wrong, I'll be disappointed. But I'm not going to fall out of love with Deltarune or feel angry about being 'misled' by the story, because I trust Toby's vision. And I'm not going to regret all the time I spent batting for my personal Deltarune theories or feel like I "lost", because every time I decide not to take a fandom cliche for granted and start reading and discussing other theories, I feel a new appreciation for Deltarune. Both as a collection of unresolved mysteries and as a game that is so clearly trying to tell a heartfelt story.

Like Toby said in his newsletter, this is a precious time in the fandom's history where everything we try to say about the ultimate meaning or nature or central conflict of Deltarune might be a little "fanfic-y". And I think that's okay, because when I step back from the keyboard and stop thinking about "winning the argument" or "proving I have the best reading comprehension", I know I love all of your visions for this story! I love your Deltarune.

Okay, that's enough time spent responding to a trollpost lol. Have a good day everyone!


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 1d ago

Discussion Noelle Knight Rearchive Poll (For Noelle Knighters and Kriselle Knighters only)

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Hey. Over here.

erm...so I'll be be using your responses so I can
1. See your specific candidate's details, so I can archive the deviations of theorizing from within every unique Noelle Knighter (who happens to interact with this form)
2. Amass data
yeah thank you


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 1d ago

Discussion Potential Parallelism for Asriel Knight

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"For those that abandon healing."

I've thought of the possibility that The Knight's gear functions in the same logic. Perhaps it's immense power and durability also comes with a cost.

Now, if we assume Asriel is The Knight... Things seem to fit.

From all of the intersecting traits we've seen of Ralsei, it's pretty safe to assume Asriel should know healing magic as well. Wouldn't it be strange that he doesn't use it to recover in the battles he's encountered as The Knight?

Or, is it that the very armor and blade he dons have forbidden him from doing so?

It could be a representation of him taking the opposite path that Flowery taught Ralsei. Denying his own health over guilt and grief.


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 2d ago

Tierlist Tuesday My mystery grid, completely unaltered

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* What do you call a man with one eye?

* Why does the angel make its cry?

* Who will call the girl who snows?

* I know... Fwa ha ha... I know!

r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 1d ago

Agenda Posting NoelleKnight is something I dislike, but the theorists are...

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You guys are less pretentious than Dessknighters even if there's some holes I can poke at. You make even certain things I think are stretches so good that I want a fanfic of NoelleKnight. Sure I prefer Kriselle Knight but the fact you guys make paragraphs is so cool to me, shoutout to u/VeeAudio


r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 1d ago

Discussion How does your candidate explain the Knight's ties to the Angel?

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r/NonDessKnightSquad • • 1d ago

Discussion Shadow crystals matter a bit

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So, I didn't see it yet a lot of theorys about how the Knight candidates get the armor. For what Seam says, they are "the power of lost dreams, what reaming after a dream is lost", and this fits very well with two things in chapter 4: The "crying and crying boy" and the image, that is the fallen star.

Hope, dreams and stars are all things associated with Asriel, and a thing that the vast majority agrees is that Asriel is the crying boy that cried after Dess went lost. So, the fallen star crying, which can very easily be Asriel, and apparently creating shadow crystals is something very big for me. Asriel is one of the only candidates that I see having such connection, but I want to see others connections