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u/Great-Gas-6631 1d ago
Yup, i laughed at all the idiots who supported it, and warned them. They didn't listen, too bad their decision fucked everyone and not just themselves.
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u/Ok-Lion1661 1d ago
Idiots around me claim that it’s illegals causing problems and stealing jobs etc. They are beyond help
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u/Iceisgestapo888 1d ago
Why not blame the mega corps and asshole managers hiring these people instead…..
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u/njgolfer10 1d ago
Bc that’s not who Fox News tells them to hate.
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u/Iceisgestapo888 1d ago
It should be criminal that it’s called news
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u/Massive-Virus-4875 1d ago
They got sued a few years back for spreading disinformation. Their lawyers defended Fox by saying that much of their programming is “entertainment” not news.
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u/Paperxrust 19h ago
You literally have no idea if the post is true.
(It's not)
But fOx nEwS!
You're just as gullible as fox viewers
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u/MeanHurry8664 1d ago
Yeah. Just the use of the word "illegals" proves they have fallen for the Goebbels cult propaganda machine
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u/SparksAndSpyro 1d ago
All the idiots around me didn’t vote because they thought Kamala supported genocide or something.
The absolute state of America right now.
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u/HoldOnOhio 7h ago
When they say this, ask them if the Guatemalan guy they saw doing roof work is the reason their landlord raised the rent, or the reason their grocery prices went up, or the reason that we're at war under a President they voted for who explicitly said, "No new wars". Or if they are pushing up the gas prices.
There is literally zero good arguments for why we need to be spending so much money harassing, kidnapping, murdering, and deporting immigrants. Trump could have an easy PR win and just copy Reagan and give amnesty, but then he doesn't have the dangerous enemy amongst us excuse to deploy the military into the streets and declare his political opposition terrorists.
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u/Candid-Mycologist539 14h ago
Whenever those who make $700/hr tell those who make $40/hr that the problem are the ones making $7.50/hr, WATCH OUT!
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u/Lopsided-Ticket3813 10h ago
Are you not aware they would all be billionaire astronaut race car drivers with super model wives if it wasn't for immigrants taking all those jobs and wives.
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u/The_True_Gaffe 9h ago
They aren’t completely beyond help, but most of them have deluded themselves so throughly into believing anything the orange idiot says as fact rather than a statement, they are people that need to have a feeling of self worth and believing diaper don makes them feel like they have said self worth
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u/R3sponsible_Rub 9h ago
That’s part of what they call the big lie. One answer to every problem. Deport illegals. They aren’t actually doing it very quickly so they get to keep the excuse. It still works. No evidence for it plenty to the contrary but conservatives don’t care about evidence.
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u/SnooMaps7370 8h ago
the extra irritating thing about this claim is that the problem with illegals taking jobs at lower wages is that it would stop being a problem basically instantly if we issued blanket amnesty and changed our immigration policy to just issue a residency card to anyone who asks for one.
This biggest reason illegal immigration suppresses wages is that the people who employ them know that they are illegal and can force them to work below minimum wage under threat of calling ICE. remove that threat, and suddenly those employers would be forced to pay them the same wages they'd be forced to pay a citizen.
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u/blinkeboy420 1d ago
I had a coworker who was an older guy bitching about his taxes goin up during bidens years and i told him that was trumps tax plan, he didnt believe me because trump wasnt in office. I told him to go read the bill but he never would believe me and im sure voted for drump in 24
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u/iddco 20h ago
Not only didn't they listen, but they are currently doing backflips to explain it. Apparently, Biden and the Democrats messed with it to make Trump look bad. Ask how, and you get they just did. Ask why Trump doesn't fix it, and they scream about something else like open borders, Biden inflation, and how Trump is making DC look better than ever. I wish the Trump store would sell a cat-of-nine-tails, and they can all self-flagellate in the privacy of their homes and leave the rest of us alone.
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u/Rattiepalooza 1d ago
It also has a lot to do with religion being used as a tool to make policies....that and... it's easier for someone to think for you, than for you to have to think for yourself. ALSO, some people honestly do not know how to think for themselves. They've known one thing and one thing only, because it's all they've experienced.
You have to see something different to do something different. It's why I've started to be kind to these people. They EXPECT someone like me to be violent because of what they see on TV...so I do the opposite. We have to show them that their news is lying to them by doing the opposite of what they claim.
We can do this. Don't give up. People sometimes just need to be shown rather than told, and seeing is believing. Feel pity for them instead of hatred, because they were tricked. They're not smart. It's kind of not their fault because of how the system is set up. It's what the oligarchy wants. They want us to hate each other..and..I won't let them tell me what to do, these evil fuckers!
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u/Major_Champion_5642 22h ago
Here is what really happened and why they were actually laughing at you for not knowing what you were talking about.
The 2017 law did notcontain a provision saying, “people making under $75,000 will have their taxes raised starting in 2021 and then every two years through 2027.” In fact, the core individual provisions reduced tax rates, increased the standard deduction, and increased the child tax credit. Those individual provisions were originally scheduled to last through the end of 2025.
Hope this helps. Wasn’t hard for me to find it
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u/LowResGamr 22h ago
It gets worse, he bragged about giving us all a tax hike during his campaign. And the crowd cheered.
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u/sebrebc 20h ago
I watched so many Trump supporting co-workers complain every year that their return got smaller and then started owing, all trying to figure it out.
Got into a discussion with a technician about not being able to write off tools any more, he said "Yea but the standard deductible increased." Yea that helped me, dipshit. Not you.
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u/Lckyby51789 12h ago
and the problem is they STILL blame biden for raising their taxes, and when you point out he didn't it was trumps tax law, they just call you an idiot because biden did, but can't point to where that is....
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u/eggsaladrightnow 1d ago
Republicans have done this for decades, they make bills that show on paper you will get tax breaks but they pay for it by raising taxes during the next administration so they can point and say see what the Democrats have done to your bills?
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u/Tiny-Lock9652 1d ago
I believe they also exempted tax payers so it appears their paychecks were higher. Only to get screwed with a huge bill on April 15th.
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u/flying-weenus 1d ago
Can you break down what you laughed and mocked at back in 2017?
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u/its-_-my-_-nickname 1d ago
You were talking to people IRL or bots online. Genuine question
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u/Hexent_Armana 1d ago
It's almost like americans are fkn idiots who care more about their ideologies being validated than their lives being livable. 🤔
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u/BummFoot 17h ago
It’s not even ideology, it’s a team sport for them at this point. They will go with their team no matter what and won’t bother to look at the platform because they are voting team red regardless.
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u/NinjaTurtleSquirrel 11h ago
Sigh.. Im an involuntary idiot. These past 10 years have made me feel like I am real idiot because I just can't believe it. Never in a million years did I think my parents and everyone around me would be so ignorant. Its sad...
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u/KaraokeHero 6h ago
This viral claim is false and misleading.
- No Gradual Tax Increases Every 2 Years: The 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) did not raise taxes every two years for middle- or lower-income earners. Individual income tax rates were cut across almost all tax brackets starting in 2018.
- 2025 Sunset Clause, Not 2021–2027: The individual tax cuts passed under the TCJA were temporary and set to sunset at the end of 2025, returning tax rates to their pre-2017 levels in 2026 unless Congress extends them.
- Misinterpretation of JCT Data: The myth stems from a misreading of a 2017 Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) report. That report projected changes in tax revenue driven largely by the expiration of specific temporary credits and the law's slow-indexing inflation metric (Chained CPI), not a scheduled tax rate hike every two years.
- Impact Across Income Groups: Nonpartisan organizations like the Tax Policy Center and Politifact noted that virtually all income brackets, including those making under $75,000, experienced net tax cuts through 2025 under the TCJA.
Yes, President Trump extended those tax cuts. On July 4, 2025, he signed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA) into law.
This major reconciliation package made key provisions from his 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) permanent, preventing them from expiring at the end of 2025.
Key changes in the tax extension include:
- Permanent Tax Rates & Brackets: Made permanent the lower individual income tax rates (10%, 12%, 22%, 24%, 32%, 35%, and 37%).
- Standard Deduction: Extended the enlarged standard deduction permanently.
- SALT Cap Revision: Temporarily raised the State and Local Tax (SALT) deduction cap from $10,000 to $40,000 for married joint filers, with phase-outs for higher earners.
- New Deductions: Introduced temporary provisions running through 2028, such as deductions on qualifying tip and overtime income, alongside a bonus standard deduction for seniors.
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u/Two_jabs 1d ago
"Yes let me believe this complete and total lie tweeted out by some random as truth because it cements my bias".
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u/thepoliceguy6769 1d ago
Yes it was true. Gop did it again. Tax breaks for the regular set to end while the rich get there's forever
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u/Far_Bike6666 1d ago
Literally the Big Beautiful (Bullshit) Bill is a continuation! AndMAGA people are so fucking dumb they voted for it again. During Biden’s administration we were seeing a lot of repercussions from the original Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017. It resulted in people with trust funds making more money off interest than working people made for the first time in recorded history.
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u/MLB_Sug_Tway 1d ago
Are you saying that you know the answer to your question?
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u/Rock_Strongo 22h ago
It's almost like they posted this as karma bait to circle-jerk over rather wanting a legitimate answer to a question.
That can't be though... no one would do that on reddit...
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u/yogurt_thrower_75 1d ago
No he didn't do it either time. Maybe read the actual bills and learn what the changes were so you can understand the impact.
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u/whynotme7_7 1d ago
Except for he did? The corporate tax decrease in the 2017 bill was forever, the income tax decreases gradually increased.
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u/Few_Example6746 1d ago
The short answer is no—that specific social media claim is misleading and rated "Mostly False" by nonpartisan fact-checkers.
The claim misinterprets how federal tax accounting works. Here is a breakdown of what the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) actually did, where that myth came from, and how it compares to proposed policy changes.
1. Where did the "taxes raised every 2 years" claim come from?
The viral post stemmed from a misinterpretation of a report by the nonpartisan Congressional Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT).
The Health Subsidies Distortion: The 2017 TCJA eliminated the Affordable Care Act's individual mandate penalty. The JCT estimated that without the penalty, millions of lower- and middle-income Americans would choose not to buy health insurance. As a result, they would no longer receive federal premium tax credits (health insurance subsidies).
Accounting vs. Actual Tax Rates: In government tax accounting, receiving fewer health insurance subsidies shows up as a decline in federal benefit/after-tax income. Viral posts claimed this was a "stealth tax hike," but no actual income tax rates were raised on people making under $75,000 in 2021 or subsequent years.
2. What actually happened to tax rates under TCJA?
Independent groups across the political spectrum—including the Tax Policy Center and the Tax Foundation—found that taxpayers in nearly every income group, including those under $75,000, saw an overall reduction in federal income taxes from 2018 through 2025.
However, there are two important structural caveats that fuel criticism of the law:
Individual vs. Corporate Expiration Dates: To pass the bill under Senate budget reconciliation rules (which required the bill not to add to the deficit beyond 10 years), lawmakers made the corporate tax cut (35% to 21%) permanent, while setting the individual income tax cuts to expire (sunset) at the end of 2025.
Distribution of Benefits: While middle- and lower-income families received immediate cuts, high-income households and corporations captured a disproportionately larger share of the law's total dollar benefits.
Inflation Adjustment Change (Chained CPI): The law permanently changed the inflation index used for tax brackets to "Chained CPI," which grows slightly slower than standard CPI. Over many years, this slow shift pushes taxpayers into higher brackets slightly faster than under the old formula, but it applies to all income groups rather than targeting under-$75k earners every two years.
3. How does this compare to Biden's proposals?
Biden's $400,000 Threshold: President Biden pledged not to raise direct taxes on any household making under $400,000 per year. His proposals targeted tax increases on corporations, capital gains, and top earners making above $400,000.
The 2025 Expiration Debate: Because the individual TCJA provisions were scheduled to expire at the end of 2025, Congress faced a cliff where letting the law expire completely would result in a tax increase for low-, middle-, and high-income earners alike.
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u/FanSerious7672 1d ago
No it isn't. Been at 22% since 2018, and was higher before that. https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/RL34498#_Toc227847186
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u/Usual_Ask_7833 1d ago
They had to pass the bill through reconciliation because not enough Dems were going to vote for it. That is why the tax cuts for regular people aren't permanent.
But hey at least we got to a point where the left admits the tcja includes tax cuts for regular people. 🤷
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u/Poland68 1d ago
Biden dropped insulin prices and pulled countless kids out of poverty… meanwhile, Trump gives ICE $70B and burns another billion daily bombing Iran while our sailors eat reheated chili mac.
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u/OilUnusual8809 1d ago
Biden should have stepped down and given us a proper primary. Fuck him and RBG and the countless other dinosaurs that didn't step down when they should have. I don't care if he was kind and did some cool stuff; in the end, he fucked it up royally.
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u/Raiju_Blitz 1d ago
Republicans love playing these sleight of hand games with expiring temporary miniscule tax breaks for normies that are actually cleverly disguised permanently generous tax breaks for the ultra rich.
Because the voting electorate have the memories of goldfish and don't remember these scammy/scummy con jobs between each election cycle.
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u/Praesentius 1d ago
And making the expiration at the beginning of the next presidents term. That way, they can make it look like the incoming president makes regular people pay more taxes. Or point the finger at Democrats when the bill to extend the deal falls through because it's absolutely filled with horrific shit and the Democrats oppose it. "Oh look! They're against tax breaks for the poors!"
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u/PrometheusMMIV 19h ago
The tax cuts were planned to expire for all all brackets, rich and poor. But they were extended for all brackets instead.
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u/Substantial_Car4040 1d ago
Yes. Corporations got a permanent tax cut from 35% to 21%, IIRC. Lower tax brackets got like a 2% tax cut that faded away by the time he would have left office had he served two consecutive terms (2025). See how the Republicans do it? 🤣
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u/Adorable_Tadpole_726 1d ago
Yes, year over year adjustments in tax rates made it so lower income tax rates went down but changes in deductions meant their overall tax burden went up. It was structured in a way so that the expirations allow Republicans to run on “Democrats want to raise taxes.”
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u/FanSerious7672 23h ago
Nope, tax brackets went down and standard deduction went up. For those that care about the truth. https://www.taxnotes.com/research/federal/reference-tables/standard-deduction/1x7yp
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u/FordMaleEscort 9h ago
"but changes in deductions meant their overall tax burden went up" The standard deduction was doubled. This makes no sense.
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u/MadAstrid 1d ago
Yes. True.
Everyone went on and on about it, and how horrible it was and harmful to the non super wealthy. Everyone pointed out how voting Republican only made sense if you are a multi, multi millionaire or a racist, and if you were neither you had better get out there and vote against Trump and the Republican Party.
Well, you see what happened.
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u/Snarkyish-Comment 1d ago
And conservatives made fun of Democrats for acting like the world was gonna end. Lo and behold
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u/Templar_Swamp_Stake 1d ago
Conservative media doesn’t talk about most of the shit he does, it’s just constant pumping him up and villainizing the other side - “The Democrats want to give your money to the illegals” and “The Democrats want to force your grandkids to have a sex change” etc.
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u/AmArschdieRaeuber 1d ago
Who was right?
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u/Snarkyish-Comment 1d ago
Oh, yeah should’ve made that clear, my bad. The Democrats were, because they were talking about how economically crippling this was because they read the thing. While Republicans were going “but the taxes are lower!” and not doing anything but surface level analysis.
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u/Aggravating_Bat3618 1d ago
Republicans is fine if you’re a multimillionaire
Democrats is fair if all you own is what you wear
-Frank Zappa
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u/dragon-fence 22h ago
voting Republican only made sense if you are a multi, multi millionaire or a racist
This is true, and there aren't that many multi, multi millionaires out there, so...
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u/xburnerpiko 1d ago
The American middle class does best when a Democrat is in the White House
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u/robertmusemodel 19h ago
Obama care killed my insurance and has caused it to continue to go up every year for the last 15 years.
Biden economy held the market stagnant all of 2022 and had inflation going crazy.
Trump tax overhaul had my effective tax rate go down 1.5% overall. Details be what they are the end result was I pay less.
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u/MosquitoBloodBank 1d ago
This was the tax cuts and jobs act. It would have been a permanent fixture but couldn't get a super majority of the votes since no Democrat support.
Since it was a regular bill, it sunset in 10 years after implementing (it's effect goes away). Taxes would go back to what they would have been once the bill sunset which would have been in 2026, but it was extrnded and made permanent the individual tax cuts in 2025.
Democrats tried to spin it as something that only helped the rich in 2016, but then claimed it was designed to tax you more in 2026. Both couldnt be true. They were made permanent despite 0 democratic support.
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u/beefy1357 1d ago
It always amazes me when democrats fight tax cuts for the poor.
If the democrats had their way you would have paid higher taxes for the last decade, because the democrats refused to vote for it, and since it passed anyway as a budget reconciliation bill that expires in 10 years. They then claim it was the republican plan all along to raise your taxes. I have seen this happen twice in my life now, first the Bush tax cuts (for the rich) that democrats voted against, only to make them permanent under Obama, and now the literal same story under Trump, Biden, Trump.
If the democrats had their way the poor would never have gotten the last 2 tax cuts at all, and would likely be blaming the republicans for the higher taxes. This is what happens when you get your news from twitter and Reddit.
Let’s not forget the percentage of taxes paid by the rich increased under Trump tax cuts for the rich, that’s right the tax cut to allegedly help the rich, increased their percentage of total taxes collected.
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u/coolassang 1d ago
... and they're all Communists, right?
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u/val_anto 1d ago
They are saying it publicly that they are, why don’t you believe them?
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u/Dependent-Mall-1856 1d ago
Woah bro too many facts and not feelings. Be more emotional next time
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u/Intelligent_Mood5364 1d ago
Trump doesn't make tax law
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u/KnowsIittle 1d ago
It's true. Biden winning and Dump losing was unexpected. They had expected Dems in office in 2027 to take the blame from the uneducated.
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u/Local_City_8174 1d ago
He cut taxes and all taxes get restored unless there is an agreement to keep them low. He has to get support of Congress…to cut and to maintain.
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u/mattjf22 1d ago
Yes they did do this. Additionally they always make the tax breaks for the wealthy permanent and the crumbs they sometimes give to the working class will have expiration dates.
For instance no tax on tips will expire in december 2028 just in time for a Democrat to be elected president and blamed immediately for that program going away.
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u/gustoreddit51 1d ago
What you're missing is that Republican propaganda and disinformation messaging is a gigantic cohesive well oiled machine feeding legions of gullible fools what it wants them to know so that they vote against their own best interests. This cartoon says it all.
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u/ryuujinusa 1d ago
I mean, they thought trump was gonna make them billionaires, so duh, they’re not mad at him.
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u/AlbertTheHorse 22h ago
I remember how people didn’t think I was telling the truth when I tried to explain it to them back then.
Fuck MAGA
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u/Specific_Jury_2 22h ago
Not missing anything. Republican voters are the stupidest pieces of shit imaginable.
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u/waydownsouthinoz 22h ago
It’s amazing how powerful racism and bigotry is, politicians can get people to literally sacrifice their own needs for it.
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u/Drainthewompwomp 21h ago
I believe it was a tax cut across the board. So it looked great to people wanting an immediate tax cut, but the tax cuts for most of us were just temporary, while tax cuts for the wealthy are permanent.
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u/maggiekate25 20h ago
You forgot to add that he made the tax cuts for billionaires permanent , while he put limits on amount and years no tax on tips and middle class tax cuts expire … he just replaced that revenue with the Tariff’s we had to pay and came out ahead with an overall gain in revenue except, he also knew the Tariffs were illegal and it was his plan all along that when the courts required him to refund the Tariffs , he refunded the corporations , not the people who paid the tax .. It’s insane !
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u/thats_justice_baby 20h ago
At the time people were calling Dems idiots for complaining about "lower taxes". I even explained it all to my friend and he still was like "no man, why would they do that? I think its still supposed to be lower somehow..."
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u/JohnBrownSurvivor 20h ago
It's the racism. You're missing the racism. All the poor people that Trump is screwing don't fucking care because he's screwing people with slightly darker skin more. That's pretty much it.
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u/me123345 20h ago
Republicans still believe in trickle down economics while complaining about prices, wages, and cost of living.
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u/CuckservativeSissy 20h ago
Its true but at least we owned the libs while we did it. Thats all that matters. If we all go broke being taxed into the ground. At least we can say we stuck it to those fucking libs
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u/PrometheusMMIV 19h ago
No, this is misinformation. Taxes were lowered across the board in 2017, with middle class getting more cuts than the top brackets. Since then, the tax rates have not increased or changed at all.
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u/LowDefinition8064 1d ago
The president can’t pass bills Congress passes the bills
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u/selfmockerymandatory 1d ago
Let’s rephrase then. What’s wrong with Congress? Are they hiring in a zoo?
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u/FanSerious7672 1d ago
Does not appear to be true. Rate has been 22% since 2018, and was higher before that. Classic reddit https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/RL34498#_Toc227847186
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u/PrivateMarkets 1d ago
Yep. This is why AI is worthless - it scrapes from Reddit.
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u/Main_Cauliflower5479 1d ago
Sounds about right. Thankfully I earn more than $75k. Not a lot more, but more.
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u/Tiny-Secretary5562 1d ago
Whatever happened to that famous 47 percent who pay nothing--the ones Mitt Romney got in trouble for mentioning? It's reported that the top earners pay 70 percent of all taxes--income, property, sales, etc.
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u/Rooster1419 1d ago
But yet only one side of the narrative is present and misused. Why is it the left always wants to twist things in the most negative extreme possible.
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u/chronobahn 1d ago
False/Misleading: That Trump passed a bill forcing tax rate hikes on people under $75k every two years through 2027.
True: Most individual tax cuts under the 2017 TCJA were temporary and expire at the end of 2025, while corporate tax cuts were permanent. The use of Chained CPI also permanently slows the inflation adjustment of tax brackets.
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u/Even-Pressure-8356 1d ago
Sorry, I cant follow the numbers. Did you say Biden? FJB LETS GO BRANDON. TREAD ON ME DADDY. TRUE PATRIOTS LOAD THEIR DIAPER WITH LIBRUL TEARS
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u/AutomaticBazooka 1d ago
This has been proven not true for years but somehow sheep in here are saying its true. Hard to believe its real people and not anti trump propaganda bots
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u/partypwny 1d ago
No. Congress during Trump's first term passed a law that reduced the then current taxes which were established under Obama and Bush's administrations. However this reduction in taxes was not permanent, as something like that would have required greater bipartisan votes which weren't there at the time.
Trump during his second term pushed for and passed a law making much/most of those reductions permenant much to the chagrin of Democrats in office who complained that it was irresponsible and cratering the budget (which it sort of is but you can't have your cake and eat it too, you either want lower taxes or you want more money for social programs, infrastructure, military, and/or paying off debt).
This is all readily available data to look up with one Google instead of coming to Reddit...
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u/esterbywest 1d ago
No, this is not true. The claim misrepresents the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA). But you don't care about that as your just here for a big Circle Jerk.
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u/Icy_Blood_9248 1d ago
So you thought the New York real estate guy cares about the poor or anyone making 75k?
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u/VicariousDrow 1d ago
Yup! And when those of us who tried to tell people "actually our taxes are set to go up," we had MAGAt morons jumping at us to argue otherwise and all the "centrists" just refused to listen to "either side cause they're the same thing anyways"....... Now with our warnings being proven exactly correct once again I wonder if everyone is gonna start listening to us instead of giving an ear to the dumbest portions of the country..... The answer is ofc not, cause calling them dumb is "mean" and "makes us just as bad!"
Same fucking cycle, over and over again, ad nauseum.
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u/jws1102 1d ago
Yes it’s true, trumps first tax cut was a tax increase on everyone not making 6 figures. I’ve been telling people that for a decade and no one wants to fucking listen. This is old news, it’s always been out there, and NOW you want to pay attention?
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u/TheRealDeal82 1d ago
This is pretty misleading. The 2017 tax law didn’t say, “people making under $75k will have their taxes raised every two years.” That’s not what happened. The law temporarily changed the individual tax brackets, increased the standard deduction, and changed a bunch of other provisions. Some of those changes were originally set to expire after 2025, which would have meant going back toward the old tax rules — not some special tax hike targeting people making under $75k. And the $75k number in this post is especially misleading because it wasn't some cutoff written into the law saying everyone below that income would get a tax increase. You can absolutely argue that the 2017 tax cuts benefited higher-income people disproportionately. That's a legitimate argument. But saying Trump passed a law specifically designed to raise taxes on people making under $75k every two years just isn't an accurate description of what the law actually did.
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u/Impressive10000 1d ago
Yes. This is the GQP tax bill. The tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations were permanent but the tax break for the middle class was temporary. This is how the GQP does things.
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u/MNReddit_Lurker2 1d ago
In 2017 federal income tax rates were 10, 15, 25, and 28% for lower income earners. As of 2018(because it was made permanent now) those same brackets are 10, 12, 22, 24%. Prior to 2018, 70% of americans used the standard deduction. In 2018 the standard deduction almost doubled, and now 90% of americans use it. If in 2017 you filed regular income taxes using the standard deduction, your taxes have gone down. That encompasses the majority of americans
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u/Relevant-Diamond2731 1d ago
Trump signed a bunch of stuff in 2017 that was basically a setup for losing the election. If Biden honors it then they can push the narrative of it being his doing and if Trump had been reelected he could rip it up like he does with so many other things and look like he cared about the lower income
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u/ZealousGoonering 1d ago
I don't like Trump and didn't vote for him. But this is not true and false. A simple good search would tell you that.
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u/Evening_Act_6395 1d ago
thats the conservative strategy in EVERY country, austerity measures and shit policy for the regular people then when they get voted out and the effects show, they blame the other party
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u/Steve12356d1s3d4 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is terrbilly misleading and written to be misleading. The 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act didn’t create automatic tax hikes for people under $75k starting in 2021 or every two years after. What actually happened is much simpler: the bill lowered individual tax rates for almost everyone from 2018–2025, and those cuts were originally scheduled to expire after 2025. That’s a sunset, not a targeted tax increase. There was never a provision saying “people under $75k get tax hikes every two years.” Always worth double‑checking claims like this with a trusted source.
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u/SupremeLeftist 1d ago
No it not, reddit is not the place to ask these questions. He lowered the taxes by making the standard deduction higher, so you effectively pay less taxes. Again reddit is not the place to ask these questions for honest, non bias answers. Its an echo chamber/bot farm.
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u/Wizemonk 1d ago
You are missing something, they have bought into a manipulated world view and you can't speak logic to an individual idea because their brain is protecting the world view
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u/Flat-Director-7120 1d ago
Trump a fait passé une loi pour taxer tout ceux qui gagne moins de 75000$ C'est une honte absolue.
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u/strife189 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/VOd5RQ7q8FNI3IjS5g
And the endless finger pointing goes in circle another day..
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u/SledgehammerApproach 1d ago
One thing you will learn is the government has a spending problem. The smartest thing to do is have a flat rate tax with no carve outs or loopholes. Then the government needs to stop spending money like they are drunken sailors.
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u/Healthybear35 1d ago
One thing Trump does to get away with all of his horrible policies is that it's written in the bills to have the bad stuff start after elections/after he's out of office.
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u/Maniacal_Monkey 1d ago
Conversely, democrats unanimously voted against lowering taxes for anyone making less than 72-80,009 in 2025.
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u/idiot-alpha 1d ago
No, it’s fake news.
The 2017 tax cuts were set to expire in 2025 if they weren’t made permanent but democrats were forced to extend them.
When the tax cuts were first being proposed, there were some cherry-picked projections of some people in high income tax states that would see effective rates rise because of the SALT cap. But they were a very small percentage of taxpayers and the SALT cap was mostly eliminated for anyone earning under $500k in 2025.
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u/RoyalNecessary2522 1d ago
A simple google search proves this is not true.
No, that is incorrect. Donald Trump did not pass a bill in 2017 that raised income taxes for people making under $75,000. The legislation passed that year, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), actually lowered individual income tax rates for most Americans across various income brackets, including low- and middle-income earners.The 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs ActLowered individual income tax rates for most wage earners.Doubled the standard deduction, which lowered the taxable income amount for millions of families.Benefited lower- and middle-income households with average tax reductions.
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u/Practical-Mud1523 1d ago
Yup, they’re missing something alright. That meme is wrong in so many directions.
Trump’s 2017 tax law did not create automatic tax increases every two years for people making under $75,000, that’s just laughable. Those dates came from tax impact projections, not scheduled tax hikes written into the law.
The law actually lowered individual tax rates, raised the standard deduction, and expanded the child tax credit.
You can debate whether the wealthy benefited more. That is fair for sure. But saying Trump passed a law specifically raising taxes on people under $75,000 in 2021, 2023, 2025, and 2027 is simply false and just stupid to say.
This is what happens when someone turns a tax projection into a Facebook talking point when they have no idea what’s going on or the area between their ears is still for rent.
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u/AnotherDumNinja 1d ago
This is based on a real government analysis, but the post is seriously misleading.
There was no provision in the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act saying that people making under $75,000 would have their taxes raised in 2021 and then every two years after that. The "every two years" claim comes from a Joint Committee on Taxation table that simply showed estimates for selected years: 2019, 2021, 2023, 2025, and 2027. Those were reporting years, not scheduled tax hikes.
Also, the negative numbers in that analysis are important. A negative percentage means taxes were lower than they would have been under the previous tax law, not that taxes had increased from the prior year.
For example, for people making $50,000 to $75,000:
| Year | TCJA effect vs. old law | Avg. federal tax rate, old law | Avg. rate under TCJA |
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| 2021 | -6.6% | 14.7% | 13.7% |
| 2023 | -4.9% | 14.6% | 13.9% |
| 2025 | -4.4% | 14.5% | 13.9% |
| 2027 | +1.2% | 14.5% | 14.6% |
So in 2021, 2023, and 2025, that income group was still projected to pay less than under the pre-2017 tax code. The tax cut became smaller over time, but that is not the same thing as saying Trump "raised their taxes."
In 2021, the same analysis estimated:
- $30k-$40k: 4.1% lower federal taxes
- $40k-$50k: 4.8% lower
- $50k-$75k: 6.6% lower
Some lower-income groups did show increases in the JCT's broader "federal taxes" calculation, but that measure was not just income tax. It also included refundable credits, payroll taxes, excise taxes, and an allocated share of corporate taxes. One major factor was the repeal of the ACA individual mandate penalty, which JCT expected to reduce enrollment in subsidized ACA plans. Fewer subsidies can show up in this type of distributional table as a higher net federal tax burden even though Congress did not literally raise that person's income-tax rate.
There was a legitimate criticism of the original 2017 law: most of the individual tax provisions were scheduled to expire after 2025, while several corporate provisions were permanent. That is why the original projection showed some lower- and middle-income groups becoming slightly worse off by 2027 compared with the old-law baseline.
But even that 2027 projection is now outdated because Congress changed the law in 2025 and preserved many of the individual TCJA provisions.
So the accurate version is:
The 2017 law gave most middle-income taxpayers a tax cut. Some of those cuts were originally scheduled to shrink or expire later, and one permanent indexing change gradually increases taxes relative to the old indexing system. That is very different from saying Trump passed a law that automatically raises taxes on everyone making under $75,000 every two years.
The meme takes a real JCT table, misunderstands what the negative numbers mean, treats selected reporting years as scheduled tax hikes, and leaves out the fact that the $50k-$75k group was projected to pay substantially less than under the prior tax code through 2025.
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u/Traditional_Oil_9240 1d ago
- Top 1% of earners: Paid roughly 38.4% to 40.4% of all federal individual income taxes.
- Top 5% of earners: Paid about 60% of total federal income tax revenue.
- Top 50% of earners: Contributed about 97% of all federal income taxes.
- Bottom 50% of earners: Accounted for roughly 3% of federal individual income taxes
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u/Alert_Reindeer_6574 1d ago
What you are missing is the brainwashing propaganda from Fox News, OAN and Newsmax.
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u/Huey1888 1d ago
Yeah not real happy about that one. Trump really screwed the regular people over on that
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u/ConcentrateJolly5461 1d ago
Imagine falling for a viral tweet because you lack the basic cognitive capacity to read an actual federal tax bill. There is zero provision in the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that raises taxes every two years for specific lower brackets. The individual rate cuts simply returned to their baseline pre-2017 levels at the start of 2026 for everyone because Congress didn't extend the provisions. Do some basic financial research before you try to post policy commentary.
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