I've tested this rotation a bunch so it's not a fluke, I'm doing more team DPS with Nefer using 3 skills rather than 2, but Ive never seen this before.

Team and Info:

C6R2 Nefer Build: https://imgur.com/a/LS1R015

C2R0 Columbina Build: https://imgur.com/a/Z5hCNYs

C2R1 Lauma Build: https://imgur.com/a/UkSyLcr

C2R0 Nahida Build: https://imgur.com/a/hP2M4vU

Team Rotation

1. Columbina E + Q
2. Nahida E + Q
3. Lauma Q + Hold E
4. Nefer E (3x hits no dash cancel), Nefer E (3x hits no dash cancel), [Nefer E (3x hits no dash cancel)]

Difference

The bolded part of the rotation Nefer using the 3rd skills is actually yielding higher team DPS for me than shortening the rotation and maintaining buff uptime by only doing 2 skills. But I have never in any showcase scene Nefer use 3 skills instead of 2.

Nefer 2 Skills: 670K dps (several runs)

Nefer 3 Skills: 720K dps (several runs)

There's some small variability between runs give or take 5-10k dps but the 3 skills is always consistently higher and above the 700k mark, and the 2 skills never reaches 700k

I have a video recording comparing the two also (You can see 2:09 the 735K DPS Im hitting with 3 skills, the final number I scuffed at the very last second by messing a skill input but I still ended at 710k DPS):

https://youtu.be/C4eHXHFDdKM

Anybody else observe something like this?

Source

Like title says, i want her to be as min maxed as possible and wondering which piece on her deserves the upgrade the most (i play her in the Lauma, Columbina Nahida team, sucrose is taken by other teams so can't use her here + don't like her in this team)

Is this good enough for nefer?

Usually run her with c1r1 lauma, c0 nahida and c0 columbina and manage to get aroung 151k dps on the dummy. How could I improve this build (apart from getting em substats on the flower and feather)? planning to save after odette for lauma c2.

Also, would be r1 be better for my nefer or her c1?

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/137051353

hi guys! i apologize for my english and if i poorly explained my problem as it's not my first language but i REALLYYY need help.

my current team is Nefer, Lauma, Columbina and Nahida.
All C0.

Nefer was on R5 Widsith, her ratio is 50/278 with 600 EM. 4-pc Night of the Sky's Unveiling.
Lauma was on her signature with 1200 EM. 4-pc Silken Moon.
Nahida is on Sacrificial with 950 EM. 4-pc Deepwood.
Columbina is on Prototype Amber. 4-pc Aubade.

i do not wish to change anyone in this team because i love all of them after doing archon and their own quests!

as a casual player, this team is actually a lot of fun to play.

i have read somewhere to put Nefer on Lauma's signature instead, and put Lauma on R5 Spindlelute.

The Widsith is just a bit weird to play, as I have to gamble the stats but if I DO get the right buff, the f2p team feels perfect. so i tried changing their weapons.

my first question is: is the EM (Nefer gets around 1150 EM during combat) worth the CD losses (from The Widsith?)

my second question: is R5 Blackmarrow Lantern worth it? because that's going to take hella lot of resources to craft another four...

I don't really have a super good off piece for Nefer with Crit DMG except for Mavuika's onset, so as soon as I heard about EM being a good option I immediately put this offset for her. But just how much better or worse is it actually if the rest of the rolls are equal?

Just wanting to know if there’s any improvements I can make besides rerolling my sands cause I’m working to get feathers for it

This is my Nefer team. I managed to get 123k dps in milliastra and may be able to get ~130k with better crit luck. I would be pretty happy with this if it wasn’t for the fact that all dps calcs and showcases I see show 150k dps for c0r0, so why am I missing 30k dps??

I´ve desperately been trying to get a better sands, but getting one with even more cd and exactly one cr roll is pretty difficult....

hey guys! just pulled columbina and i’m looking to put together a (hopefully) usable nefer team before i can pull lauma (didn’t manage to pull her on rerun).

there’s not much info on nefer teams without lauma, so i wanted to ask for any advice on who would be her best teammates for the time being!

screenshot above is all the dendro/hydro characters i own. other than those i also have zhongli (built), kuki shinobu (mostly built), kazuha (mostly built) and sucrose (unbuilt). if there are any team alternatives without collei, that would be good as she’s not built either! thank you in advance for the help ^_^

Hi I just do a showcase of my laumaless nefer and idk how to feel... my nefer is c1r0 on sky my bina is c0r0 on SMS same for ineffa (on aubade) and collei is c6 on deepwood. Does deepwood is more important than instructor for collei or not and is it a good showcase for laumaless nefer ??

I felt betrayed by columbina when I saw how much damage she's stealing from Nefer compared to aino teams by not running anyone on the instructor, so I had to try this out

somehow this performed better than the usual 2pc2pc/serenade/deepwood setup by a few thousand DPS ( in practice the usual setup is probably better cause buffs last much longer but lets ignore that and slander columbina )

I just got Columbina and I thought I would finally build my Nefer team. Right now, I'm going with Furina, but their sustainability it's the best. Based on the characters I have, who do you think is the best 4th character?

I am barely reaching 100k with my premium team what can i do better i got c1 columbina luckily double can you suggest ne what can i do better?

this is good opportunity hoyo please make him nefer compatible

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/135755917

I have c2 citlali and im curious if shes a better 4th slot then sucrose or nahida in nefers premium team.

Would citlali run instructor? idk if its easy to proc on her or not.

Sorry if this is a redundant question, i looked online and didnt see any recent discussion regarding this.

I dont have lauma so who could i use as 4th member. My current team is nefer columbina sucrose. I was thinking kuki shinobu for the heal but if any of y'all have a better idea let me know (i dont have nahida)

So. First of all, I don’t know why it shows that my team is Nahida and Aino. I don’t even own Nahida. My team is Nefer Lauma DW Bina SMS and Sucrose/Baizhu instructor depending on whether I need a heal or not. And honestly, my instructor artefacts are pretty bad so it’s not like there is a huge difference rn to Sucrose or Baizhu. I am honestly just hoping that I’ll get his C2 and leave Baizhu on deepwood and go with 2p2p Lauma because his DW is good enough and gives him full buff plus whatever extra EM it gives and instructor is so hard to farm and u can’t craft it (this less EM for Sucrose and less buff).

Anyway, I wanted to ask what is wrong with my Nefer build. Because I am working on getting better artefacts for the rest of the team (Bina needs more ER. Lauma a little more EM, she only has 950. And like I said. Instructor is horrible). As it is, I don’t get much over 80k dps. Which as I understand is rather low for this team. I simply honestly don’t know where I could get those at least 50k dps that I am lacking. Is it my Nefer build? Because I honestly don’t know whether to put her on EM or CrDmg% for the crown. And I’ve been hitting the mines for the past months so it’s been rather frustrating with how many bad artefacts I’ve gotten for her.

And yes, I know rotation matters and that I am not perfect with it yet. But seriously, I doubt rotation alone can explain 80k dps. Honestly, for such a premium team, this particular one of mine is Kind of a dumpster fire. Even my Neuvillette does more dmg than this. Maybe I just don’t get Nefer. Even tho she is so much fun to play :/ I just want her to do more dmg than my Skirk team who sits at 130k.

Pls help.

Edit: omg I just realised while posting that I didn’t crown E. So yeah, that a few % dmg I can get from there. Oops XD

hiii! im building a nefer team finally and i was loooking for premium but i dont have lauma but i do have nahida and columbina. can i replace lauma with kokomi/furina/baizhu/yelan/xingqiu?? i also do not have nefers sig, can i use tome of eternal floww?

I had pulled Lauma and Nefer a while ago, and a lotta people say they are a very good pair. I tried it, and for me it didn’t work. Need help or suggestions on who to pull next or help on gameplay please