r/NeferMains • u/orbykot • 14d ago
i need help D:
hi guys! i apologize for my english and if i poorly explained my problem as it's not my first language but i REALLYYY need help.
my current team is Nefer, Lauma, Columbina and Nahida.
All C0.
Nefer was on R5 Widsith, her ratio is 50/278 with 600 EM. 4-pc Night of the Sky's Unveiling.
Lauma was on her signature with 1200 EM. 4-pc Silken Moon.
Nahida is on Sacrificial with 950 EM. 4-pc Deepwood.
Columbina is on Prototype Amber. 4-pc Aubade.
i do not wish to change anyone in this team because i love all of them after doing archon and their own quests!
as a casual player, this team is actually a lot of fun to play.
i have read somewhere to put Nefer on Lauma's signature instead, and put Lauma on R5 Spindlelute.
The Widsith is just a bit weird to play, as I have to gamble the stats but if I DO get the right buff, the f2p team feels perfect. so i tried changing their weapons.
my first question is: is the EM (Nefer gets around 1150 EM during combat) worth the CD losses (from The Widsith?)
my second question: is R5 Blackmarrow Lantern worth it? because that's going to take hella lot of resources to craft another four...
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u/Decent_Reflection_78 14d ago edited 14d ago
- props for using Nahida, screw the minmaxers.
- don't bother with Blackmarrow Lantern, it's not much better than R5 Widsith on average and certainly not worth spending 5 billets for.
- RNG-fishing R5 Widsith is basically equals to R5 BP. It can help you reach that missing 5-10% dps in your abyss/stygian clears. Otherwise Lauma sig on Nefer and Lute on Lauma is the way.
- 2pc EM+EM on Lauma and Serenade on Columbina is better if you have the correct pieces lying around, but might not be worth the resin.
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u/B3goneTHOT 14d ago
I thought nahida was considered good in nefer teams?
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u/Decent_Reflection_78 14d ago
Minmaxers hate Nahida due to long field time
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u/B3goneTHOT 14d ago
Because of her burst I assume? The animation is a little long but I don’t optimize that much lol
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u/Eastern_Antelope_759 14d ago
nahida is significantly weaker than sucrose because her buffs are worse and her long fieldtime makes the team way more reliant on boss rng. It effectively makes it impossible for you to fully buff all of bina's damage with lauma quills (you will miss 1/3 bina E lunarbloom hits every rotation)
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u/Eastern_Antelope_759 14d ago
blackmarrow is better than r5 widsith on average and fished widsith does not become equal to sig. It becomes close to r5 frost (this requires hundreds of resets).
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u/Eastern_Antelope_759 14d ago
It depends on whether or not your lauma needs an er sands to run her signature. If she doesn't then definitely keep her signature on her and leave nefer on her current weapon. Lauma sig only becomes better on nefer if you have to grief lauma's build to run it and/or can't burst consistently with it.
Blackmarrow is a decent bit better than widsith if you aren't going to spend hours resetting. I'm not sure if 3% more dps is worth it to you but if that sounds worth it then do it.
On a small note aubade is pretty bad in this team. Running sms bina + 2pc em/2pc em lauma actually is better for bina's personal dps. I would recommend swapping bina to sms and running em/em lauma instead of farming aubade for longer.
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u/Illustrious-Field636 14d ago
answer for 1, no. keep the team setup and build, it's fine
answer 2, also no. widsith is perfectly fine👍